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In 2008 alone, 20,000 American kids were injured with guns

 
seethelight
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In 2008 alone, 20,000 American kids were injured with guns
Between 2008 and 2009 almost 6000 kids died in gun violence.

[link to www.childrensdefense.org]

What are you gun rights guys going to do about that?

Almost 100 preschoolers die every year in gun violence?

What's your solution?

If you don't want people like me, with kids, to advocate for gun control, and you obviously don't, what's the solution?

It's a serious question, please don't bash me.
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12/16/2012 11:31 AM
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Re: In 2008 alone, 20,000 American kids were injured with guns
Government shill alert!
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Re: In 2008 alone, 20,000 American kids were injured with guns
Government shill alert!
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Go fuck yourself.
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Re: In 2008 alone, 20,000 American kids were injured with guns
Government shill alert!
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Go fuck yourself.
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You are exposed now...... peace
seethelight (OP)

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Re: In 2008 alone, 20,000 American kids were injured with guns
Government shill alert!
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Go fuck yourself.
 Quoting: seethelight


You are exposed now...... peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14776990


yeah... totally busted...

What's exposed is the fact that gun rights guys better start coming up with solutions or they're not gonna like the solutions forced on them.

Most gun owners are responsible citizens, a large percentage have kids - surely they mustn't want thousands of kids to die?

Get your shit together and help find a solution.
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Re: In 2008 alone, 20,000 American kids were injured with guns
By far the most common type of injury accident involving children are those that also involve motor vehicle collisions. According to the National Center for Statistics and Analysis (NCSA), nearly 250,000 children are injured every year in car accidents.
[link to www.articlesbase.com]
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Re: In 2008 alone, 20,000 American kids were injured with guns
By far the most common type of injury accident involving children are those that also involve motor vehicle collisions. According to the National Center for Statistics and Analysis (NCSA), nearly 250,000 children are injured every year in car accidents.
[link to www.articlesbase.com]
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 Quoting: ar-15 nut


not to change the subject...
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Re: In 2008 alone, 20,000 American kids were injured with guns
By far the most common type of injury accident involving children are those that also involve motor vehicle collisions. According to the National Center for Statistics and Analysis (NCSA), nearly 250,000 children are injured every year in car accidents.
[link to www.articlesbase.com]
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Oh right, so because more kids are injured in cars those injured with guns is acceptable.

Stop being so retarded.
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12/16/2012 11:41 AM
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Re: In 2008 alone, 20,000 American kids were injured with guns
how many kids were hurt by prescription drugs?

you are either a shill, or you are a sheeple going into fear.
Focus on love and stop watching the news
seethelight (OP)

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Re: In 2008 alone, 20,000 American kids were injured with guns
I know you guys are worried about the government taking all your guns away, etc., I get that.

I am simply saying the best defense is a good offense. Get in front of the issue by offering real solutions to a problem you MUST see.
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Re: In 2008 alone, 20,000 American kids were injured with guns
how many kids were hurt by prescription drugs?

you are either a shill, or you are a sheeple going into fear.
Focus on love and stop watching the news
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30045438


Red herring.

The existence of a second (or third or fourth or hundredth) problem doesn't negate the thousands of kids injured and killed by guns.


Those numbers are real and legitimate.

Tell me your solution instead of denying the problem.
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12/16/2012 11:45 AM

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Re: In 2008 alone, 20,000 American kids were injured with guns
Between 2008 and 2009 almost 6000 kids died in gun violence.

[link to www.childrensdefense.org]

What are you gun rights guys going to do about that?

Almost 100 preschoolers die every year in gun violence?

What's your solution?

If you don't want people like me, with kids, to advocate for gun control, and you obviously don't, what's the solution?

It's a serious question, please don't bash me.
 Quoting: seethelight


...over 32,000 died in auto accidents last year.
Let's ban all the cars too.


skull_fing
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12/16/2012 11:47 AM
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Re: In 2008 alone, 20,000 American kids were injured with guns
By far the most common type of injury accident involving children are those that also involve motor vehicle collisions. According to the National Center for Statistics and Analysis (NCSA), nearly 250,000 children are injured every year in car accidents.
[link to www.articlesbase.com]
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 Quoting: ar-15 nut


So what? Do we not try to do something about that? Its just a cheap cop out. Lets replace the subjects here, lets say 10.000 children die each year because of unclean water, somebody brings it up and then some fucktard says "well 250.000 are injured by cars so we don't have to do anything about it". Why is that an argument? Thats like somebody saying after 9/11 "no don't go after the terrorist, don't do something about national security, far more people are killed by other things"

20.000 children are injured with guns, that it isn't the biggest cause of injury doesn't matter.

OP is very right in saying that there should be more focus on a solution. You don't want gun control but what do you want? Or do you think its just ok that thousands of kids are hurt by guns each year? We shouldn't try to do anything about it?

there is never going to be a solution if both sides just stick to their guns (uhuhu) and can't compromise.

Gun control doesn't work, I think most people will agree with that by now, but something must be done.


And no, I am not trying to tell you mericans how to do things, in the end I couldn't care less.
I'm da party poopa
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Re: In 2008 alone, 20,000 American kids were injured with guns
Between 2008 and 2009 almost 6000 kids died in gun violence.

[link to www.childrensdefense.org]

What are you gun rights guys going to do about that?

Almost 100 preschoolers die every year in gun violence?

What's your solution?

If you don't want people like me, with kids, to advocate for gun control, and you obviously don't, what's the solution?

It's a serious question, please don't bash me.
 Quoting: seethelight


...over 32,000 died in auto accidents last year.
Let's ban all the cars too.


skull_fing
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


20,000 kids injured not killed..... Difference there too.
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Re: In 2008 alone, 20,000 American kids were injured with guns
Between 2008 and 2009 almost 6000 kids died in gun violence.

[link to www.childrensdefense.org]

What are you gun rights guys going to do about that?

Almost 100 preschoolers die every year in gun violence?

What's your solution?

If you don't want people like me, with kids, to advocate for gun control, and you obviously don't, what's the solution?

It's a serious question, please don't bash me.
 Quoting: seethelight


...over 32,000 died in auto accidents last year.
Let's ban all the cars too.


skull_fing
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


That ridiculous response already was posted in this thread.

Not only is it crass, but you're late to the game.

How many kids hurt in car crashes will it take to justify me shooting someone in your family?
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12/16/2012 11:49 AM
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Re: In 2008 alone, 20,000 American kids were injured with guns
"Children" in these statistics include gang bangers offing one another. Nice try.
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Re: In 2008 alone, 20,000 American kids were injured with guns
By far the most common type of injury accident involving children are those that also involve motor vehicle collisions. According to the National Center for Statistics and Analysis (NCSA), nearly 250,000 children are injured every year in car accidents.
[link to www.articlesbase.com]
failbsflag
 Quoting: ar-15 nut


So what? Do we not try to do something about that? Its just a cheap cop out. Lets replace the subjects here, lets say 10.000 children die each year because of unclean water, somebody brings it up and then some fucktard says "well 250.000 are injured by cars so we don't have to do anything about it". Why is that an argument? Thats like somebody saying after 9/11 "no don't go after the terrorist, don't do something about national security, far more people are killed by other things"

20.000 children are injured with guns, that it isn't the biggest cause of injury doesn't matter.

OP is very right in saying that there should be more focus on a solution. You don't want gun control but what do you want? Or do you think its just ok that thousands of kids are hurt by guns each year? We shouldn't try to do anything about it?

there is never going to be a solution if both sides just stick to their guns (uhuhu) and can't compromise.

Gun control doesn't work, I think most people will agree with that by now, but something must be done.


And no, I am not trying to tell you mericans how to do things, in the end I couldn't care less.
 Quoting: John Kimble


This.

If the guns rights people refuse to engage this problem they will get a "solution" that will be worse than if they DO engage.

The response here is really pathetic.

Surely guns rights folks must see that there's a problem?

Or is 80+ preschoolers shot a year NOT a problem?
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Re: In 2008 alone, 20,000 American kids were injured with guns
"Children" in these statistics include gang bangers offing one another. Nice try.
 Quoting: Major Jim


So that's cool then?

And what of the 80+ preschoolers shot dead a year?

Tell me how you justify those numbers?
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Re: In 2008 alone, 20,000 American kids were injured with guns
these kids were heroically fighting off an English invasion
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Re: In 2008 alone, 20,000 American kids were injured with guns
Between 2008 and 2009 almost 6000 kids died in gun violence.

[link to www.childrensdefense.org]

What are you gun rights guys going to do about that?

Almost 100 preschoolers die every year in gun violence?

What's your solution?

If you don't want people like me, with kids, to advocate for gun control, and you obviously don't, what's the solution?

It's a serious question, please don't bash me.
 Quoting: seethelight


...over 32,000 died in auto accidents last year.
Let's ban all the cars too.


skull_fing
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


20,000 kids injured not killed..... Difference there too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14776990


NO! naughty

DIED!!!...as in dead3
...and I didn't say just kids....YOU DID. thwak

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Re: In 2008 alone, 20,000 American kids were injured with guns
"Children" in these statistics include gang bangers offing one another. Nice try.
 Quoting: Major Jim


So that's cool then?

And what of the 80+ preschoolers shot dead a year?

Tell me how you justify those numbers?
 Quoting: seethelight


They were gangbangers.
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Re: In 2008 alone, 20,000 American kids were injured with guns
Between 2008 and 2009 almost 6000 kids died in gun violence.

[link to www.childrensdefense.org]

What are you gun rights guys going to do about that?

Almost 100 preschoolers die every year in gun violence?

What's your solution?

If you don't want people like me, with kids, to advocate for gun control, and you obviously don't, what's the solution?

It's a serious question, please don't bash me.
 Quoting: seethelight


...over 32,000 died in auto accidents last year.
Let's ban all the cars too.


skull_fing
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


20,000 kids injured not killed..... Difference there too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14776990


NO! naughty

DIED!!!...as in dead3
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


NO! I mean 20,000 injured not dead from guns..... They still are alive.

Guns are safe. hf Cars are Bad hiding
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Re: In 2008 alone, 20,000 American kids were injured with guns
"Children" in these statistics include gang bangers offing one another. Nice try.
 Quoting: Major Jim


So that's cool then?

And what of the 80+ preschoolers shot dead a year?

Tell me how you justify those numbers?
 Quoting: seethelight


They were gangbangers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29317600


Bad parents not checking the lunch boxes.
seethelight (OP)

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Re: In 2008 alone, 20,000 American kids were injured with guns
I refuse to believe that all American gun owners are really ok with thousands of kids being shot.
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I refuse to believe that all American gun owners are really ok with thousands of kids being shot.
 Quoting: seethelight


Our government is doing it over seas....... Whats the difference?
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I refuse to believe that all American gun owners are really ok with thousands of kids being shot.
 Quoting: seethelight


It's not ok, but the criminals will get their hands on guns whether there is a ban or not. Same goes for teens.
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Re: In 2008 alone, 20,000 American kids were injured with guns
I refuse to believe that all American gun owners are really ok with thousands of kids being shot.
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Our government is doing it over seas....... Whats the difference?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14776990


So because the US is killing kids in Afghanistan, it's cool that 80 US preschoolers are shot a year in America?

That's your belief?
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I refuse to believe that all American gun owners are really ok with thousands of kids being shot.
 Quoting: seethelight


It's not ok, but the criminals will get their hands on guns whether there is a ban or not. Same goes for teens.
 Quoting: sonic doom


So just shrug and say fuck it, nothing to be done?

That's the solution?
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Re: In 2008 alone, 20,000 American kids were injured with guns
Yeah, and those stats include "kids" up to 24 years old. Most of the deaths are due to gangbangers killing each other.

More high school kids are killed by school-sponsored sports events than murdered by guns each year.

FACT: 82% of homicides to children age 13 and under were committed without a gun.

FACT: In 1996 there were only 21 accidental gun deaths for children under age 15. About twice as many children under 10 die from drowning in bathtubs.

MYTH: 13 Children are killed each day by guns.

FACT: The statistics cited for this myth include "children" up to age 19 or age 24, depending on the source. Most violent crime is committed by males ages 16-24, so these numbers include adult gang members dying during criminal activity.

FACT: Two-thirds of the people that die each year from gunfire are criminals shooting other criminals.

FACT: Guns prevent an estimated 2.5 million crimes a year, or 6,849 per day.

[link to www.gunblast.com]
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I refuse to believe that all American gun owners are really ok with thousands of kids being shot.
 Quoting: seethelight


Our government is doing it over seas....... Whats the difference?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14776990


So because the US is killing kids in Afghanistan, it's cool that 80 US preschoolers are shot a year in America?

That's your belief?
 Quoting: seethelight



They are the ones who will take the guns and use them on you.
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Re: In 2008 alone, 20,000 American kids were injured with guns
Yeah, and those stats include "kids" up to 24 years old. Most of the deaths are due to gangbangers killing each other.

More high school kids are killed by school-sponsored sports events than murdered by guns each year.

FACT: 82% of homicides to children age 13 and under were committed without a gun.

FACT: In 1996 there were only 21 accidental gun deaths for children under age 15. About twice as many children under 10 die from drowning in bathtubs.

MYTH: 13 Children are killed each day by guns.

FACT: The statistics cited for this myth include "children" up to age 19 or age 24, depending on the source. Most violent crime is committed by males ages 16-24, so these numbers include adult gang members dying during criminal activity.

FACT: Two-thirds of the people that die each year from gunfire are criminals shooting other criminals.

FACT: Guns prevent an estimated 2.5 million crimes a year, or 6,849 per day.

[link to www.gunblast.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 754169


So all of that means 80 preschoolers a year being shot is ok?

You're ok with that?

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