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Where To Be Living When The SHTF!!!!

 
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To you folks who are fearing a SHTF scenario - are you moving? Are you taking vacations to safe locations? How many of you are taking time off next week, just in case?

I posted this earlier:

Montana, Alberta, and Saskatchewan are the promised lands...clean air, clean water, tons of natural resources, good soil, not on a fault line, the climate's a little on the cool side, amazing 18+hr of sunlight in the summer, land is a little expensive, not too many large cities in Montana & Sask.,and people willing to help each other. Oh the elevation is also good.

I live in rural N.Alberta, and I am not even a little concerned about my family's survival when the SHTF - this place is paradise compared to the rest of N.America....now that I think about it there are a lot of Americans moving up here...maybe they realize how great it is up here ,too.

Check this place for suggestions of safe locations:
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

eq
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stfu

Maybe you should keep certain things to yourself. Ruin it for everyone, dummy. You want this to turn into America or what?
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LOL. Don't worry man. It's not near as easy moving there as he makes it seem. Even just getting a work visa can take more than a year. Then you have to actually have job skills that Canada is looking for, like an electrical or welding certification. Then you have to get hired and find temporary housing.....etc. etc. etc. And that's just the beginning, if you plan on staying permanent you need to apply for a reidency permit and that can take years. And even then your still not a citizen. Not to mention having to move all your household goods across an international boarder..
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THE HOLY SPIRIT KEEPS MOVING ME AND MY FAMILY UP NORTH, I LEFT NEW JERSEY IN 2000 AND MOVED TOO NEW MEXICO FOR NO REASON OTHER THAN THE SPIRIT LEADING ME, THEN 8 MONTHS LATER WE MOVED TO COLORADO SPRINGS WERE I GOT SAVED AND BECAME A MINISTER AND STAYED AT MY CHURCH FOR 11 YRS THEN MOVED TO UTAH LAST YR THEN JUST MOVED AGAIN TO IDAHO 2 MONTHS AGO AND I AM PREPARING TO MOVE TO MY PROMISE LAND "AMEN RANCH" IN MONTANA, THOSE WHO HAVE AN EAR LET THEM HEAR WHERE THE SPIRIT MOVES THEM!
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12/16/2012 02:53 PM
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when this country collapses, you'll see hoards of Americans pouring into Canada.....
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12/16/2012 02:55 PM
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when this country collapses, you'll see hoards of Americans pouring into Canada.....
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MAYBE. Most will probably freeze to death because they aren't prepared to face severe winter.
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To you folks who are fearing a SHTF scenario - are you moving? Are you taking vacations to safe locations? How many of you are taking time off next week, just in case?

I posted this earlier:

Montana, Alberta, and Saskatchewan are the promised lands...clean air, clean water, tons of natural resources, good soil, not on a fault line, the climate's a little on the cool side, amazing 18+hr of sunlight in the summer, land is a little expensive, not too many large cities in Montana & Sask.,and people willing to help each other. Oh the elevation is also good.

I live in rural N.Alberta, and I am not even a little concerned about my family's survival when the SHTF - this place is paradise compared to the rest of N.America....now that I think about it there are a lot of Americans moving up here...maybe they realize how great it is up here ,too.

Check this place for suggestions of safe locations:
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

eq
 Quoting: Salvadorios


2/3 of the ground water in Montana has elevated temperature for the latitude. Geothermal energy. Yellowstone caldera.
Maybe not so safe.
Government is a body largely ungoverned.
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when this country collapses, you'll see hoards of Americans pouring into Canada.....
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MAYBE. Most will probably freeze to death because they aren't prepared to face severe winter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1430199


your probably right about that. I purchased a Wiggy's sleeping bag good down to -20. I'll make it. Besides, I've been to your country a half dozen times. I know what to expect.....
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12/16/2012 02:59 PM
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Anywhere outside of America.
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12/16/2012 03:14 PM
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when this country collapses, you'll see hoards of Americans pouring into Canada.....
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MAYBE. Most will probably freeze to death because they aren't prepared to face severe winter.
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lol I doubt we'd leave you out in the cold.
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Salvadorios  (OP)

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12/16/2012 03:24 PM
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To you folks who are fearing a SHTF scenario - are you moving? Are you taking vacations to safe locations? How many of you are taking time off next week, just in case?

I posted this earlier:

Montana, Alberta, and Saskatchewan are the promised lands...clean air, clean water, tons of natural resources, good soil, not on a fault line, the climate's a little on the cool side, amazing 18+hr of sunlight in the summer, land is a little expensive, not too many large cities in Montana & Sask.,and people willing to help each other. Oh the elevation is also good.

I live in rural N.Alberta, and I am not even a little concerned about my family's survival when the SHTF - this place is paradise compared to the rest of N.America....now that I think about it there are a lot of Americans moving up here...maybe they realize how great it is up here ,too.

Check this place for suggestions of safe locations:
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

eq
 Quoting: Salvadorios


stfu

Maybe you should keep certain things to yourself. Ruin it for everyone, dummy. You want this to turn into America or what?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 140124

It's not near as easy moving there as he makes it seem. Even just getting a work visa can take more than a year. Then you have to actually have job skills that Canada is looking for, like an electrical or welding certification. Then you have to get hired and find temporary housing.....etc. etc. etc. And that's just the beginning, if you plan on staying permanent you need to apply for a reidency permit and that can take years. And even then your still not a citizen. Not to mention having to move all your household goods across an international boarder..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1430199


Employers will usually help you with everything. Apply to some of the jobs and talk to some employers over the phone. They'll walk you through everything. Canada is a good place to be. N.Alberta has good schools, good hospitals, great infrastructure, safe communities, etc. I live here, and am not fearful of having a few thousand more American brothers up here. If you are a skilled worker, unskilled and not afraid of hard work, and don't mind moving come to the promised land. You'll find Canadians to be quite friendly and accepting.

Canadian F
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12/16/2012 03:25 PM
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Info about N.Alberta...

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Salvadorios  (OP)

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12/16/2012 03:29 PM
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when this country collapses, you'll see hoards of Americans pouring into Canada.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28870983


MAYBE. Most will probably freeze to death because they aren't prepared to face severe winter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1430199


The winters are not that severe... if you are prepared.
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12/16/2012 03:30 PM
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To you folks who are fearing a SHTF scenario - are you moving? Are you taking vacations to safe locations? How many of you are taking time off next week, just in case?

I posted this earlier:

Montana, Alberta, and Saskatchewan are the promised lands...clean air, clean water, tons of natural resources, good soil, not on a fault line, the climate's a little on the cool side, amazing 18+hr of sunlight in the summer, land is a little expensive, not too many large cities in Montana & Sask.,and people willing to help each other. Oh the elevation is also good.

I live in rural N.Alberta, and I am not even a little concerned about my family's survival when the SHTF - this place is paradise compared to the rest of N.America....now that I think about it there are a lot of Americans moving up here...maybe they realize how great it is up here ,too.

Check this place for suggestions of safe locations:
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

eq
 Quoting: Salvadorios


stfu

Maybe you should keep certain things to yourself. Ruin it for everyone, dummy. You want this to turn into America or what?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 140124

It's not near as easy moving there as he makes it seem. Even just getting a work visa can take more than a year. Then you have to actually have job skills that Canada is looking for, like an electrical or welding certification. Then you have to get hired and find temporary housing.....etc. etc. etc. And that's just the beginning, if you plan on staying permanent you need to apply for a reidency permit and that can take years. And even then your still not a citizen. Not to mention having to move all your household goods across an international boarder..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1430199


Employers will usually help you with everything. Apply to some of the jobs and talk to some employers over the phone. They'll walk you through everything. Canada is a good place to be. N.Alberta has good schools, good hospitals, great infrastructure, safe communities, etc. I live here, and am not fearful of having a few thousand more American brothers up here. If you are a skilled worker, unskilled and not afraid of hard work, and don't mind moving come to the promised land. You'll find Canadians to be quite friendly and accepting.

Canadian F
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So your saying I can get a job and a work visa even if i'm unskilled? I find that kind of hard to believe. Tim hortons will hire me and help me get a work visa?
Salvadorios  (OP)

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12/16/2012 03:31 PM
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Oh, and the Canadian government is threatening to take away our guns.
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12/16/2012 03:31 PM
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when this country collapses, you'll see hoards of Americans pouring into Canada.....
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MAYBE. Most will probably freeze to death because they aren't prepared to face severe winter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1430199


The winters are not that severe... if you are prepared.
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Yes, prepared is the key word. Just fleeing over to Canada with a sleeping bag is not prepared.
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12/16/2012 03:36 PM
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Well since Toronto will die off quickly because of their stupidity i'll be fine about 2 hours NE of Toronto in the country.
"What you perceive to be becomes your reality."

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To you folks who are fearing a SHTF scenario - are you moving? Are you taking vacations to safe locations? How many of you are taking time off next week, just in case?

I posted this earlier:

Montana, Alberta, and Saskatchewan are the promised lands...clean air, clean water, tons of natural resources, good soil, not on a fault line, the climate's a little on the cool side, amazing 18+hr of sunlight in the summer, land is a little expensive, not too many large cities in Montana & Sask.,and people willing to help each other. Oh the elevation is also good.

I live in rural N.Alberta, and I am not even a little concerned about my family's survival when the SHTF - this place is paradise compared to the rest of N.America....now that I think about it there are a lot of Americans moving up here...maybe they realize how great it is up here ,too.

Check this place for suggestions of safe locations:
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

eq
 Quoting: Salvadorios


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


I will probably be on Long Island/NY metro area, when I see the "Hasadic/Russian/Religious/Russian" Jews go on the Warpath, when their (80+ years of Entitlements/Welfare/Benefits) get pulled. It won't be the "Blacks" or "Latinos" robbing, looting, attacking, assaulting, mugging, it will be certain Jews (the afore mentioned), when the Jews (not all of them) will get their "Entitlements/Welfare/Benefits" pulled after 80+ years of getting them with Communist Infiltrator FDR (from 1930). Good riddins..

You'll see! (it will happen when Fiscal Financial Cliff Happens - January 1, 2013, but effects will be felt January 10, 2013-> January 13, 2013).. Mostly in Jewish Urban Area...

Idol1
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i am banking on the wave being less than 1000 feet high

if it's more than that, i'm fucked.
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At that point we all are going to suffer...

hf
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Several "enlightened" folks moved to the Appalachians a few years ago. I am at the foothills - 1500 ft.

But who really knows...
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I moved onto an offshore sailboat. Off grid sufficient for a minimum of two years. In deep water ill ride right up and over any large wave. If that even happens.

More importantly while America is in the throws of anarchy I'll be diving for lobster and sipping a Mai Tai.
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12/16/2012 04:22 PM
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when this country collapses, you'll see hoards of Americans pouring into Canada.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28870983


MAYBE. Most will probably freeze to death because they aren't prepared to face severe winter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1430199


your probably right about that. I purchased a Wiggy's sleeping bag good down to -20. I'll make it. Besides, I've been to your country a half dozen times. I know what to expect.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28870983


Better get another -20 bag to put inside your -20 bag. At least for Alberta, but I doubt anyone would go there. Too cold, winter is too long. BC that might be alright, but the mountain air is quite crisp. Hope you're bringing some mad survival skills with that bag.

We should get GLP flags for our packs or something. So we know not to shoot. Or...wait...to shoot? I don't know. Haha
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To you folks who are fearing a SHTF scenario - are you moving? Are you taking vacations to safe locations? How many of you are taking time off next week, just in case?

I posted this earlier:

Montana, Alberta, and Saskatchewan are the promised lands...clean air, clean water, tons of natural resources, good soil, not on a fault line, the climate's a little on the cool side, amazing 18+hr of sunlight in the summer, land is a little expensive, not too many large cities in Montana & Sask.,and people willing to help each other. Oh the elevation is also good.

I live in rural N.Alberta, and I am not even a little concerned about my family's survival when the SHTF - this place is paradise compared to the rest of N.America....now that I think about it there are a lot of Americans moving up here...maybe they realize how great it is up here ,too.

Check this place for suggestions of safe locations:
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

eq
 Quoting: Salvadorios

The worst place to be is anywhere most people think is the best place to be!
The second worst place, is a place you are unfamiliar with, as far as people, topography and climate.
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Canadian winters are tough, but consider that many here go winter camping, for fun! A high quality canvas hunting tent, sheet metal portable wood stove and a pile of real wool blankets will have you toasty and warm in the worst of winter temps here. Of course, you must still wear your winter gear to bed, but the point is that it is completely feasible to tent for a while until you have found or built a small cabin or plywood hut. You dont need a mcmansion either, a 12 foot by 12 foot shed/hut that is half assed isulated is home to thousands of bushwackers here. I know, I grew up in one!
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Canada is great, but, I trust in God.
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There really is nothing to do, if I survive, and most are dead, I should have plenty of food. If not, nothing to worry about.
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So your saying I can get a job and a work visa even if i'm unskilled? I find that kind of hard to believe. Tim hortons will hire me and help me get a work visa?


As a matter of fact I know a guy who owns two Timmies and he does just what you're saying. He even supplies housing. He still has a lot of trouble finding employees.
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