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If Jesus is God why goes he hand over the kingdom to Jehovah at the end of the 1,000 years?

 
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If Jesus is God why goes he hand over the kingdom to Jehovah at the end of the 1,000 years?
"Next, the end, when he hands over the kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power. 25 For he must rule as king until [God] has put all enemies under his feet. 26 As the last enemy, death is to be brought to nothing. 27 For [God] “subjected all things under his feet.” But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that it is with the exception of the one who subjected all things to him. 28 But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone." 1Cor15:24
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This is such a involved question concerning the whole plan of salvation. To answer on a quickly written forum is quite limiting. I will try.
Jesus is God, God is Triune, yet three distinct persons, inseparable.
The plan of salvation, once brought to a conclustion, which is the work of Jesus, the very God of Heaven, who stepped into time and took on the form of a man, as the kinsman redeemer, as all men were fallen and none could keep the law perfectly and become the "perfect lamb of God" for a sin offering - so Jesus accomplished this for the called chosen and eleceted. The sacrificial lambs that were offered up in the Temple in Jerusalem could nont take away sin, but covered sin, and had to be done over and over . They were meant to point to the true Lamb of God, who takes AWAY the sin of the world (not universal as most read, but universal in the sense of ALL those who Believe - those that are called chosen and elected)
Therefore, the Kingdom is delivered up to God, as the plan of salvation is completed, and all that is left to dwell eternally is of God for God and with God forever, when God becomes All in All - Jesus thus has completed all that was planned from the foundation of the world, and as God is God and no separation in divine God Head. He rests from His magnificent work to save out of the world that which was lost.
Right now, He is reigning as our Great High Priest which role will be fulfilled, when no blood offering for the sins of His people will be required, as they will become like Him, their elder brother, sinless and eternal and worthy - When Jesus speaks of God in this sense, He speaks of Himself. When on earth, He came as a weak lamb, only doing the will of God in Heaven, not taking up His own power to draw men to Him, but to draw men to God. He came to die that His people will live
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This is such a involved question concerning the whole plan of salvation. To answer on a quickly written forum is quite limiting. I will try.
Jesus is God, God is Triune, yet three distinct persons, inseparable.
The plan of salvation, once brought to a conclustion, which is the work of Jesus, the very God of Heaven, who stepped into time and took on the form of a man, as the kinsman redeemer, as all men were fallen and none could keep the law perfectly and become the "perfect lamb of God" for a sin offering - so Jesus accomplished this for the called chosen and eleceted. The sacrificial lambs that were offered up in the Temple in Jerusalem could nont take away sin, but covered sin, and had to be done over and over . They were meant to point to the true Lamb of God, who takes AWAY the sin of the world (not universal as most read, but universal in the sense of ALL those who Believe - those that are called chosen and elected)
Therefore, the Kingdom is delivered up to God, as the plan of salvation is completed, and all that is left to dwell eternally is of God for God and with God forever, when God becomes All in All - Jesus thus has completed all that was planned from the foundation of the world, and as God is God and no separation in divine God Head. He rests from His magnificent work to save out of the world that which was lost.
Right now, He is reigning as our Great High Priest which role will be fulfilled, when no blood offering for the sins of His people will be required, as they will become like Him, their elder brother, sinless and eternal and worthy - When Jesus speaks of God in this sense, He speaks of Himself. When on earth, He came as a weak lamb, only doing the will of God in Heaven, not taking up His own power to draw men to Him, but to draw men to God. He came to die that His people will live
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I was waiting for OWOW! to reply to DGN with some scriptures to prove what they said but they provided none? therefore what was said made no sense. maybe OWOW! can reply again, this time using scriptures to prove their point?
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hey opie shouldn't you be deep in the windowless klingon hall plotting evil against the unwitting people who open their doors to your uninvited intrusions???

taking their house?? their property???
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I was waiting for OWOW! to reply to DGN with some scriptures to prove what they said but they provided none? therefore what was said made no sense. maybe OWOW! can reply again, this time using scriptures to prove their point?
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The Son become the Father, The Father become the Son.
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The Son become the Father, The Father become the Son.
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What scripture is this in the bible ? I am studying this as I am not sure what the truth is about this subject and would like to read this scripture in its full context
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Found throughout is the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. All three God and one: Godhead.
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"Next, the end, when he hands over the kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power. 25 For he must rule as king until [God] has put all enemies under his feet. 26 As the last enemy, death is to be brought to nothing. 27 For [God] “subjected all things under his feet.” But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that it is with the exception of the one who subjected all things to him. 28 But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone." 1Cor15:24
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Matthew Henry does a fantastic job answering this one:

"That our Savior, as man and mediator between God and man, has a delegated royalty, a kingdom given: All things are put under him, he excepted that did put all things under him, 1Co_15:27. As man, all his authority must be delegated. And, though his mediation supposes his divine nature, yet as Mediator he does not so explicitly sustain the character of God, but a middle person between God and man, partaking of both natures, human and divine, as he was to reconcile both parties, God and man, and receiving commission and authority from God the Father to act in this office. The Father appears, in this whole dispensation, in the majesty and with the authority of God: the Son, made man, appears as the minister of the Father, though he is God as well as the Father. Nor is this passage to be understood of the eternal dominion over all his creatures which belongs to him as God, but of a kingdom committed to him as Mediator and God-man, and that chiefly after his resurrection, when, having overcome, he sat down with his Father on his throne, Rev_3:21. Then was the prediction verified, I have set my king upon my holy hill of Zion (Psa_2:6), placed him on his throne. This is meant by the phrase so frequent in the writings of the New Testament, of sitting at the right hand of God (Mar_16:19; Rom_8:34; Col_3:1 etc.), on the right hand of power (Mar_14:62; Luk_22:69), on the right hand of the throne of God (Heb_12:2), on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens, Heb_8:1. Sitting down in this seat is taking upon him the exercise of his mediatorial power and royalty, which was done upon his ascension into heaven, Mar_16:19. And it is spoken of in scripture as a recompence made him for his deep humiliation and self-abasement, in becoming man, and dying for man the accursed death of the cross, Phi_2:6-12. Upon his ascension, he was made head over all things to the church, had power given him to govern and protect it against all its enemies, and in the end destroy them and complete the salvation of all that believe in him. This is not a power appertaining to Godhead as such; it is not original and unlimited power, but power given and limited to special purposes. And though he who has it is God, yet, inasmuch as he is somewhat else besides God, and in this whole dispensation acts not as God, but as Mediator, not as the offended Majesty, but as one interposing in favour of his offending creatures, and this by virtue of his consent and commission who acts and appears always in that character, he may properly be said to have this power given him; he may reign as God, with power unlimited, and yet may reign as Mediator, with a power delegated, and limited to these particular purposes. (2.) That this delegated royalty must at length be delivered up to the Father, from whom it was received (1Co_15:24); for it is a power received for particular ends and purposes, a power to govern and protect his church till all the members of it be gathered in, and the enemies of it for ever subdued and destroyed (1Co_15:25, 1Co_15:26), and when these ends shall be obtained the power and authority will not need to be continued. The Redeemer must reign till his enemies be destroyed, and the salvation of his church and people accomplished; and, when this end is attained, then will he deliver up the power which he had only for this purpose, though he may continue to reign over his glorified church and body in heaven; and in this sense it may notwithstanding be said that he shall reign for ever and ever (Rev_11:15), that he shall reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of his kingdom there shall be no end (Luk_1:33), that his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, Dan_7:14. See also Mic_4:7. (3.) The Redeemer shall certainly reign till the last enemy of his people be destroyed, till death itself be abolished, till his saints revive and recover perfect life, never to be in fear and danger of dying any more. He shall have all power in heaven and earth till then - he who loved us, and gave himself for us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood - he who is so nearly related to us, and so much concerned for us. What support should this be to his saints in every hour of distress and temptation! He is alive who was dead, and liveth for ever, and doth reign, and will continue to reign, till the redemption of his people be completed, and the utter ruin of their enemies effected. (4.) When this is done, and all things are put under his feet, then shall the Son become subject to him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all, 1Co_15:28. The meaning of this I take to be that then the man Christ Jesus, who hath appeared in so much majesty during the whole administration of his kingdom, shall appear upon giving it up to be a subject of the Father. Things are in scripture many times said to be when they are manifested and made to appear; and this delivering up of the kingdom will make it manifest that he who appeared in the majesty of the sovereign king was, during this administration, a subject of God. The glorified humanity of our Lord Jesus Christ, with all the dignity and power conferred on it, was no more than a glorious creature. This will appear when the kingdom shall be delivered up; and it will appear to the divine glory, that God may be all in all, that the accomplishment of our salvation may appear altogether divine, and God alone may have the honor of it. Note, Though the human nature must be employed in the work of our redemption, yet God was all in all in it. It was the Lord's doing and should be marvellous in our eyes."

This thing the cults have in common...denying The Deity of Jesus Christ!

You *will* bend your knee before Him...I pray you do so receiving Him as He presented Himself...eternity hangs in the balance!

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Re: If Jesus is God why goes he hand over the kingdom to Jehovah at the end of the 1,000 years?
the Adamah of creation are given their being as the Elohim/God of the creation ......they/he was given 1000 years of which Adam/Eve received 930 of those years with the last 70 prepared for the fast passing times ...

the Word of creations beginning took up the building of his body with Moses 3500 years ago or the Word became the 2 witness of the OT and the NT ......walking out of Egypt....

the Elohim/God of creational existence submitted to the Lord/Jehovah after the 7th day of rest .....forever again recorded as the Lord God ......in union ...or Lord or God as separated positions of teaching ....

it is the Lord God who formed the mature Adamah from the dust of the children of the god/Elohim .....as they became the Man and Woman of Gen. 2 from the males and females of Gen. 1 .....

Jesus is we/us as these the Son of God ....it took Jesus as the Son of God as US ..to come in specific 2000 years ago to complete the Adamic WAY ......as he proclaimed "I am the way, the Truth and the life" ......

Jesus completed as he said "IT IS FINISHED" ...the WAY by which the SON OF GOD would become the SON OF MAN .....

and the 1000 years or DAY of Adam (the Adamah) was completed ....the 930 shown as Adams birth and death ..and as Dan. referencing the last 70 years for for a total of 1000 years ....

we/US are seen each time coming from the CLOUDS and darkness of the 2 witnesses (scripture) ....OR as from everything that passes before the eye and everything that is written inn books of that which the eye has seen .....

it is not as men suppose as men are becoming gods ......the reality is that the GODS (Elohim Jehovah) becoming MAN....
......

it is The Son of Man which returns from the clouds ..the same clouds that he went up into .....the cloudy dark mirror

only those who are willing to give all up are receivers of this finished WAY ....as TRUTH and LIFE in EXISTENCE ......
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I was waiting for OWOW! to reply to DGN with some scriptures to prove what they said but they provided none? therefore what was said made no sense. maybe OWOW! can reply again, this time using scriptures to prove their point?
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Sorry about the scripture non mention, I was trying to give him a well reasoned answer that is in accord with scripture, from beginning to end, the plan of salvation, from beginning to the final consummation of this age of grace. It is all throughout the scriptures, this plan, this can be verified, beginning to end of God's Holy Word, the KJB and not the New KJB, which is just another corruption and a copyrighted version, meaning it holds original expressions, unique to the writer, which was and is not God.

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the Adamah of creation are given their being as the Elohim/God of the creation ......they/he was given 1000 years of which Adam/Eve received 930 of those years with the last 70 prepared for the fast passing times ...

the Word of creations beginning took up the building of his body with Moses 3500 years ago or the Word became the 2 witness of the OT and the NT ......walking out of Egypt....

the Elohim/God of creational existence submitted to the Lord/Jehovah after the 7th day of rest .....forever again recorded as the Lord God ......in union ...or Lord or God as separated positions of teaching ....

it is the Lord God who formed the mature Adamah from the dust of the children of the god/Elohim .....as they became the Man and Woman of Gen. 2 from the males and females of Gen. 1 .....

Jesus is we/us as these the Son of God ....it took Jesus as the Son of God as US ..to come in specific 2000 years ago to complete the Adamic WAY ......as he proclaimed "I am the way, the Truth and the life" ......

Jesus completed as he said "IT IS FINISHED" ...the WAY by which the SON OF GOD would become the SON OF MAN .....

and the 1000 years or DAY of Adam (the Adamah) was completed ....the 930 shown as Adams birth and death ..and as Dan. referencing the last 70 years for for a total of 1000 years ....

we/US are seen each time coming from the CLOUDS and darkness of the 2 witnesses (scripture) ....OR as from everything that passes before the eye and everything that is written inn books of that which the eye has seen .....

it is not as men suppose as men are becoming gods ......the reality is that the GODS (Elohim Jehovah) becoming MAN....
......

it is The Son of Man which returns from the clouds ..the same clouds that he went up into .....the cloudy dark mirror

only those who are willing to give all up are receivers of this finished WAY ....as TRUTH and LIFE in EXISTENCE ......
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I don't know if you are JW or if you are Mormon, or if you are gnostic, whatever, nothing you imagine or read into scripture changes the clear teaching of God's Word, Jesus has always been God, from eternity. He took on the form of mankind to save that which was lost.
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the Adamah of creation are given their being as the Elohim/God of the creation ......they/he was given 1000 years of which Adam/Eve received 930 of those years with the last 70 prepared for the fast passing times ...

the Word of creations beginning took up the building of his body with Moses 3500 years ago or the Word became the 2 witness of the OT and the NT ......walking out of Egypt....

the Elohim/God of creational existence submitted to the Lord/Jehovah after the 7th day of rest .....forever again recorded as the Lord God ......in union ...or Lord or God as separated positions of teaching ....

it is the Lord God who formed the mature Adamah from the dust of the children of the god/Elohim .....as they became the Man and Woman of Gen. 2 from the males and females of Gen. 1 .....

Jesus is we/us as these the Son of God ....it took Jesus as the Son of God as US ..to come in specific 2000 years ago to complete the Adamic WAY ......as he proclaimed "I am the way, the Truth and the life" ......

Jesus completed as he said "IT IS FINISHED" ...the WAY by which the SON OF GOD would become the SON OF MAN .....

and the 1000 years or DAY of Adam (the Adamah) was completed ....the 930 shown as Adams birth and death ..and as Dan. referencing the last 70 years for for a total of 1000 years ....

we/US are seen each time coming from the CLOUDS and darkness of the 2 witnesses (scripture) ....OR as from everything that passes before the eye and everything that is written inn books of that which the eye has seen .....

it is not as men suppose as men are becoming gods ......the reality is that the GODS (Elohim Jehovah) becoming MAN....
......

it is The Son of Man which returns from the clouds ..the same clouds that he went up into .....the cloudy dark mirror

only those who are willing to give all up are receivers of this finished WAY ....as TRUTH and LIFE in EXISTENCE ......
 Quoting: wind rider


I don't know if you are JW or if you are Mormon, or if you are gnostic, whatever, nothing you imagine or read into scripture changes the clear teaching of God's Word, Jesus has always been God, from eternity. He took on the form of mankind to save that which was lost.
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What a clusterfuck of nonsense your religtards are, seriously .
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

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If you sit aside the Nicenc Council's formulation of the Trinity Doctrine, and the other "Church" councils later on Christology, then the answer is staring you right in the face. Only those that have drank the mixed wine of Mother Babylon have any confusion on this issue. Jesus the Christ is the Son, Jesus the Christ is not his own Father, nor is Jesus Christ the Almighty God. It that simple. Jesus is the only begotten son of God, but he is not the Father and Jesus is not the Almighty God.

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If you sit aside the Nicenc Council's formulation of the Trinity Doctrine, and the other "Church" councils later on Christology, then the answer is staring you right in the face. Only those that have drank the mixed wine of Mother Babylon have any confusion on this issue. Jesus the Christ is the Son, Jesus the Christ is not his own Father, nor is Jesus Christ the Almighty God. It that simple. Jesus is the only begotten son of God, but he is not the Father and Jesus is not the Almighty God.

Flee Babylon, my people.
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I don't buy into the trinity bs. It's nothing but lucifer
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This is such a involved question concerning the whole plan of salvation. To answer on a quickly written forum is quite limiting. I will try.
Jesus is God, God is Triune, yet three distinct persons, inseparable.
The plan of salvation, once brought to a conclustion, which is the work of Jesus, the very God of Heaven, who stepped into time and took on the form of a man, as the kinsman redeemer, as all men were fallen and none could keep the law perfectly and become the "perfect lamb of God" for a sin offering - so Jesus accomplished this for the called chosen and eleceted. The sacrificial lambs that were offered up in the Temple in Jerusalem could nont take away sin, but covered sin, and had to be done over and over . They were meant to point to the true Lamb of God, who takes AWAY the sin of the world (not universal as most read, but universal in the sense of ALL those who Believe - those that are called chosen and elected)
Therefore, the Kingdom is delivered up to God, as the plan of salvation is completed, and all that is left to dwell eternally is of God for God and with God forever, when God becomes All in All - Jesus thus has completed all that was planned from the foundation of the world, and as God is God and no separation in divine God Head. He rests from His magnificent work to save out of the world that which was lost.
Right now, He is reigning as our Great High Priest which role will be fulfilled, when no blood offering for the sins of His people will be required, as they will become like Him, their elder brother, sinless and eternal and worthy - When Jesus speaks of God in this sense, He speaks of Himself. When on earth, He came as a weak lamb, only doing the will of God in Heaven, not taking up His own power to draw men to Him, but to draw men to God. He came to die that His people will live
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Luke 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
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If you sit aside the Nicenc Council's formulation of the Trinity Doctrine, and the other "Church" councils later on Christology, then the answer is staring you right in the face. Only those that have drank the mixed wine of Mother Babylon have any confusion on this issue. Jesus the Christ is the Son, Jesus the Christ is not his own Father, nor is Jesus Christ the Almighty God. It that simple. Jesus is the only begotten son of God, but he is not the Father and Jesus is not the Almighty God.

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What a clusterfuck of nonsense your religtards are, seriously .
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you obviously wandered into this thread unaware of the believers here and their love of God. Why don't you just back out the same way you entered, you have nothing of value to add nor do you dissuade those that are His. Iron sharpening Iron here, it could also be described as a theological debate amongst those that seek after truth in knowing the True and living God as revealed and not as we would like Him to Be to appease our own vain imaginations

And of course it would be nonsense to you since your intent is satisfying your wanton ambition to degrade anything that is Holy, for the mere fact that it reveals what spirit you are of
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What a clusterfuck of nonsense your religtards are, seriously .
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you obviously wandered into this thread unaware of the believers here and their love of God. Why don't you just back out the same way you entered, you have nothing of value to add nor do you dissuade those that are His. Iron sharpening Iron here, it could also be described as a theological debate amongst those that seek after truth in knowing the True and living God as revealed and not as we would like Him to Be to appease our own vain imaginations

And of course it would be nonsense to you since your intent is satisfying your wanton ambition to degrade anything that is Holy, for the mere fact that it reveals what spirit you are of
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Why don't you go screw yourself? What about that.

Who the heck are you to tell me what to do? You brainwashed lunatic.
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What a clusterfuck of nonsense your religtards are, seriously .
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you obviously wandered into this thread unaware of the believers here and their love of God. Why don't you just back out the same way you entered, you have nothing of value to add nor do you dissuade those that are His. Iron sharpening Iron here, it could also be described as a theological debate amongst those that seek after truth in knowing the True and living God as revealed and not as we would like Him to Be to appease our own vain imaginations

And of course it would be nonsense to you since your intent is satisfying your wanton ambition to degrade anything that is Holy, for the mere fact that it reveals what spirit you are of
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Why don't you go screw yourself? What about that.

Who the heck are you to tell me what to do? You brainwashed lunatic.
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You sir/madam, just lost the debate. Being unable to answer with any kind of intellectual input, you reduce yourself to attacking the messenger instead of the message. Name calling, any thug or junior hight student could outdo you.
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Re: If Jesus is God why goes he hand over the kingdom to Jehovah at the end of the 1,000 years?
In the beginning was the word, the word was with God, and the word was God.

Compare to Revelation where Jesus declares HE is the Alpha and Omega.
When blacks have identity it is called pride.
When indians have identity it is called culture.
When jews have identity it is called history.
When WHITES have identity it is called Racism.

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In the beginning was the word, the word was with God, and the word was God.

Compare to Revelation where Jesus declares HE is the Alpha and Omega.
 Quoting: Emmeric


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Re: If Jesus is God why goes he hand over the kingdom to Jehovah at the end of the 1,000 years?
What a clusterfuck of nonsense your religtards are, seriously .
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you obviously wandered into this thread unaware of the believers here and their love of God. Why don't you just back out the same way you entered, you have nothing of value to add nor do you dissuade those that are His. Iron sharpening Iron here, it could also be described as a theological debate amongst those that seek after truth in knowing the True and living God as revealed and not as we would like Him to Be to appease our own vain imaginations

And of course it would be nonsense to you since your intent is satisfying your wanton ambition to degrade anything that is Holy, for the mere fact that it reveals what spirit you are of
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Why don't you go screw yourself? What about that.

Who the heck are you to tell me what to do? You brainwashed lunatic.
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You sir/madam, just lost the debate. Being unable to answer with any kind of intellectual input, you reduce yourself to attacking the messenger instead of the message. Name calling, any thug or junior hight student could outdo you.
 Quoting: Ohwow!


I am not even debating any message here, I could just as well debate a child who believes Harry Potter is real, but I do not lower myself to the level of morons or people who believe in delusions. I am actually attacking your arrogance in thinking you have any say in what anyone else in here does.

Get real tard.

Last Edited by Manu-K on 12/23/2012 09:28 PM
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

-- Dixon Diaz
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Re: If Jesus is God why goes he hand over the kingdom to Jehovah at the end of the 1,000 years?
If you sit aside the Nicenc Council's formulation of the Trinity Doctrine, and the other "Church" councils later on Christology, then the answer is staring you right in the face. Only those that have drank the mixed wine of Mother Babylon have any confusion on this issue. Jesus the Christ is the Son, Jesus the Christ is not his own Father, nor is Jesus Christ the Almighty God. It that simple. Jesus is the only begotten son of God, but he is not the Father and Jesus is not the Almighty God.

Flee Babylon, my people.
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clappa
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Re: If Jesus is God why goes he hand over the kingdom to Jehovah at the end of the 1,000 years?
The Son become the Father, The Father become the Son.
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What scripture is this in the bible ? I am studying this as I am not sure what the truth is about this subject and would like to read this scripture in its full context
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corinthians chapter 15
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12/23/2012 09:30 PM
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Re: If Jesus is God why goes he hand over the kingdom to Jehovah at the end of the 1,000 years?
If you sit aside the Nicenc Council's formulation of the Trinity Doctrine, and the other "Church" councils later on Christology, then the answer is staring you right in the face. Only those that have drank the mixed wine of Mother Babylon have any confusion on this issue. Jesus the Christ is the Son, Jesus the Christ is not his own Father, nor is Jesus Christ the Almighty God. It that simple. Jesus is the only begotten son of God, but he is not the Father and Jesus is not the Almighty God.

Flee Babylon, my people.
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This is precisely correct!
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Jesus is our perfect example of God manifestation


He is living the Word perfectly---he is the embodiment of God's word

He is reflecting God's glory with his actions

He is NOT the same person as God --just God's perfect representative
Manu-Koelbren

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Re: If Jesus is God why goes he hand over the kingdom to Jehovah at the end of the 1,000 years?
If you sit aside the Nicenc Council's formulation of the Trinity Doctrine, and the other "Church" councils later on Christology, then the answer is staring you right in the face. Only those that have drank the mixed wine of Mother Babylon have any confusion on this issue. Jesus the Christ is the Son, Jesus the Christ is not his own Father, nor is Jesus Christ the Almighty God. It that simple. Jesus is the only begotten son of God, but he is not the Father and Jesus is not the Almighty God.

Flee Babylon, my people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27972246


This is precisely correct!
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So if Jesus was the "son of God" was he the same kind of individual as were the "sons of God" in Genesis? yeahsure

Last Edited by Manu-K on 12/23/2012 10:33 PM
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

-- Dixon Diaz
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12/23/2012 09:44 PM

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Re: If Jesus is God why goes he hand over the kingdom to Jehovah at the end of the 1,000 years?
at this point, no one has answered the question that DGN asked...the question; "if Jesus is God, why does he hand over the kingdom to Jehovah at the end of the 1.000 years"?-it seems logical to me that if Jesus hands something back to God, that it didn't belong to Jesus in the first place to possess it unless God gave it to him, which shows me that Jesus and God are two separate Beings. That in turn makes the scripture at Matthew 6:10 much easier to understand, where Jesus prays to GOD "Let YOUR Kingdom come. Let YOUR will take place."-

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