Right to bear arms, but not right to health care

You don't see the difference?
We have a GOD GIVEN RIGHT to protect ourselves
and to defend our live and property.
The cost of that defense is borne by the
individual.

Health care is a SERVICE that requires the time
and labor of others.

NOBODY has a GOD GIVEN RIGHT to the time or labor
of others, quite the CONTRARY.

To demand the time and labor of others, as
your right, would make them your slaves.

If anyone wants to make their time or labor
available to you, free of charge,

THAT IS THEIR RIGHT.

There are many CHARITIES which will help you
if you have no means of your own.

BUT,
YOU CANNOT DEMAND THAT THE GOVERNMENT FORCE
OTHERS TO PROVIDE YOU THEIR TIME AND LABOR,
FREE OF CHARGE.

yes indeed.. it is your opinions. quote where there is a right to "healthcare" enumerated in the US Constitution.. I'll wait.

THIS TIMES 100000000000

Full time fuckin job around here eh?

Dear OP
Your response dealing with "having guns and money is more important than love for each other" is venial at best.

You are carrying fuel for a fire that I did not ignite.

B eing responsible for yourself and family is our obligation.
Our healtcare problem which is far and away distant from the gun issue is the result of making the health care industry , that, an industry and 'for profit' one At that.

Historically it never was.

It needs addressing but you have totally ignored that we ARE funding free health care for so many who do not and have not decided they have moral obligagtions to do what I posted above and, instead, they use our muscle and resources to receive this for free.

You can say who loves and who doesn't but it will alter nothing until you get on the right path of logic and involve yourself in the differences.

My son who is married, owns a small business and has a daughter who got herself pregnant, is living with her boyfriend, father to child(he is taking an accelerated schooling to become a respiratory therapist and had earlier planned on becoming a doctor), draws welfare assistance. he just turned 18 this year. Her half sisters moved down to California from Idaho, one has two children and twins on the way and is going to work but will receive assistance regardless and the other, seeing the attention her half sister received got herself pregnant and is not trying to work and receives 800 dollars permonth and lives at my son's(our house we own) and he cannot get her to leave and we do not want her there.

We are drowning in taking care of others.

People who own guns legally don't force other people to pay for the guns and ammo.

What is screwed up is that we spend the most on health care and we rank at #38.

You can buy international health insurance, and the cost is based on which country you reside in. But it will not cover you in the u.s. due to the outrageous cost.

Medical bills are the number one reason for bankruptcies in the u.s.

Unconditional Love means; using a gun to protect an Anti Gunner, from a Nut case with a weapon, be it a gun or a knife!

Yep

Something's twisted all right. And you can notice you'll get few responses from people in countries that have national health care. Why would they mess with a good thing?

A civil society wants it's citizens to have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. How can a society pusue these things if it's sick?

Yes, yes and yes. Notice how the debate is framed always around affordable health insurance rather than simply affordable health care yet no one, NO ONE really wants to take on the question of why health care in the US is so fucking expensive?

you really don't understand the difference between "rights" and "responsibility" do you?

everyone in this country has the right to healthcare, but it is your responsibility to provide it for your self.

do you ask your neighbors to buy you food? is food a right or a responsibility to provide it for yourself.

our government is not altruistic and really doesn't give a rat's ass if you are treated or not, but they do love the power of life and death that you just hand to them? are you really so stupid?

BINGO.

Jesus wasn't talking literally about a sword. Oh, wait...did you didn't actually cut your own eye out...right?

so most people on this thread disagree with the op?

he doesnt quite get the logic

No something is wrong with you OP, get off your lazy ass and get a job.

Right to bear arms doesn't mean you will be given a gun for free. Your choice. Same for healthcare. Choice.

Perpetuation of weakness with crutches like "medicine" has been an evil allowance. Gonna be all fixed soon

sorry op

you live among evil and greedy people

I'm not the OP, but here's my British Libtard take on it:



Emergency care that is completely "Free at the point of use" (paid for by tax money, how that's raised isn't part of this discussion) would be a good start.



Unless you have literally no money you have the ability to pay something though, and you do hear of cases of people being essentially bankrupted by the cost of emergency care.



That's a good question. There's arguments over it in the UK at the moment. I honestly don't really know the answer.



Depends on why they need it.

Last Edited by Lime Flavoured Redux on 12/16/2012 06:14 PM

OP.. you have an agenda and it makes me sick.. you are like the rest of the antigun half-wits of GLP.. You are nothing more then a troll.. a slimy troll that I hope someone scraps off the bottem of thier boot soon.

It's just too damn cold to bear arms

Who needs healthcare? Fucking wimp you dragging our society down. Time to cut the cancerous bag of the needy weak. That will never be a part of the future.

Other than stitches and broken bones, most of that alleged health care will kill you.

Should trained doctors and nurses take care of you, for free?

Really?

The right is to bear arms. It doesn't say anything about free firearms. You can get healthcare, but I shouldn't have to pay for it for you.

What do you want? Lots of radiation and pills?

Define free. Free is not the same as "Free at the point of use"