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Anonymous Coward User ID: 29961838 United States 12/16/2012 08:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Should trained doctors and nurses take care of you, for free? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30051589 Really? He is a left-wing parasite. He thinks "the government" should pay for it. In other words, THE TAXPAYER. Liberals have no problem enslaving others to work for them, which is why they are so enamored of socialism, and communism. |
viking thunder User ID: 29378719 United States 12/16/2012 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have exactly the same right to Health care as you do to firearms. Any amount of either you are able to pay for, you can have. Nobody gives away free guns, and also, nobody gives away free health care, how can you say there is a difference when they are dealt with the exact same way? :Freedom Duck: |
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Prostetnik User ID: 29782568 Canada 12/17/2012 12:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The concept of socialized health care, and a welfare state did not exist when the constitution was framed. The right to bear arms is a part of the constitution, which is an agreement between a corporate person (the federation) and the citizens of all the states within the federation. The responsibility of delivering health care is a state responsibility, not federal one. |
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SilverPatriot User ID: 10518597 United States 12/17/2012 12:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am my brothers keeper. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30053889 "When you do unto the least of these, you do unto me". Tsk Tsk. And we consider ourselves a Christian nation... Hell bent on clinging to our guns. We are ALL culpable and responsible for creating a society that creates mass murderers. How convenient to pull out that we are a Christian Nation when you know religion is being suppressed and even prayer is banned in schools you cannot have it your way then blame the belief system of others as being faulty. Banning guns solves nothing when the left has systematically removed God from everyone we once held dear to us as Americans. Further in all countries that have banned guns have only successfully removed guns from law-abiding citizens and simply look at the control drug cartels have and the body count each year. Look at our own country with roving gangs of youths robbing stores and malls and tell me whose fault is this really. Do you really believe we want to become as helpless as you are with a crime rate such as in the United Kingdom that has far fewer people and land mass? In the United Kingdom, law-abiding citizens were forced to turn in their guns and you somehow feel safer knowing gang members and criminals have guns. We “keep” an ever-increasing amount of entitled people on the various welfare rolls and all we have created is dependant people with no self-respect and plenty of time on their hands. Crime Statistics > Total crimes (most recent) by country [link to www.nationmaster.com] Young guns for hire: gangs recruiting children for contract killings [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] Britain, Australia top U.S. in violent crime Rates Down Under increase despite strict gun-control measures [link to consumercide.com] AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN [link to www.ncpa.org] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 10566369 United States 12/17/2012 12:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am my brothers keeper. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30053889 "When you do unto the least of these, you do unto me". Tsk Tsk. And we consider ourselves a Christian nation... Hell bent on clinging to our guns. We are ALL culpable and responsible for creating a society that creates mass murderers. How convenient to pull out that we are a Christian Nation when you know religion is being suppressed and even prayer is banned in schools you cannot have it your way then blame the belief system of others as being faulty. Banning guns solves nothing when the left has systematically removed God from everyone we once held dear to us as Americans. Further in all countries that have banned guns have only successfully removed guns from law-abiding citizens and simply look at the control drug cartels have and the body count each year. Look at our own country with roving gangs of youths robbing stores and malls and tell me whose fault is this really. Do you really believe we want to become as helpless as you are with a crime rate such as in the United Kingdom that has far fewer people and land mass? In the United Kingdom, law-abiding citizens were forced to turn in their guns and you somehow feel safer knowing gang members and criminals have guns. We “keep” an ever-increasing amount of entitled people on the various welfare rolls and all we have created is dependant people with no self-respect and plenty of time on their hands. Crime Statistics > Total crimes (most recent) by country [link to www.nationmaster.com] Young guns for hire: gangs recruiting children for contract killings [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] Britain, Australia top U.S. in violent crime Rates Down Under increase despite strict gun-control measures [link to consumercide.com] AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN [link to www.ncpa.org] Jesus was pretty clear in his teachings. And you want statistics, you *DO* know that the USA has the most gun related homicides *by far* of any industrialized nation, right? By PERCENTAGE, too. [link to www.washingtonpost.com] |
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InTheHood User ID: 29587186 United States 12/17/2012 12:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You don't see the difference? We have a GOD GIVEN RIGHT to protect ourselves and to defend our live and property. The cost of that defense is borne by the individual. Health care is a SERVICE that requires the time and labor of others. NOBODY has a GOD GIVEN RIGHT to the time or labor of others, quite the CONTRARY. To demand the time and labor of others, as your right, would make them your slaves. If anyone wants to make their time or labor available to you, free of charge, THAT IS THEIR RIGHT. There are many CHARITIES which will help you if you have no means of your own. BUT, YOU CANNOT DEMAND THAT THE GOVERNMENT FORCE OTHERS TO PROVIDE YOU THEIR TIME AND LABOR, FREE OF CHARGE. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 10566369 United States 12/17/2012 01:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Constitution was created to be a living document - meaning - it was adaptable and could be amended (as is evidenced by the amendments made already). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10566369 Amended does not mean abolished. Morons! I swear. The 13th amendment abolished slavery. Learn some history. |
SilverPatriot User ID: 10518597 United States 12/17/2012 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am my brothers keeper. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30053889 "When you do unto the least of these, you do unto me". Tsk Tsk. And we consider ourselves a Christian nation... Hell bent on clinging to our guns. We are ALL culpable and responsible for creating a society that creates mass murderers. How convenient to pull out that we are a Christian Nation when you know religion is being suppressed and even prayer is banned in schools you cannot have it your way then blame the belief system of others as being faulty. Banning guns solves nothing when the left has systematically removed God from everyone we once held dear to us as Americans. Further in all countries that have banned guns have only successfully removed guns from law-abiding citizens and simply look at the control drug cartels have and the body count each year. Look at our own country with roving gangs of youths robbing stores and malls and tell me whose fault is this really. Do you really believe we want to become as helpless as you are with a crime rate such as in the United Kingdom that has far fewer people and land mass? In the United Kingdom, law-abiding citizens were forced to turn in their guns and you somehow feel safer knowing gang members and criminals have guns. We “keep” an ever-increasing amount of entitled people on the various welfare rolls and all we have created is dependant people with no self-respect and plenty of time on their hands. Crime Statistics > Total crimes (most recent) by country [link to www.nationmaster.com] Young guns for hire: gangs recruiting children for contract killings [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] Britain, Australia top U.S. in violent crime Rates Down Under increase despite strict gun-control measures [link to consumercide.com] AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN [link to www.ncpa.org] Jesus was pretty clear in his teachings. And you want statistics, you *DO* know that the USA has the most gun related homicides *by far* of any industrialized nation, right? By PERCENTAGE, too. [link to www.washingtonpost.com] Would you not agree that gangs and NOT the law-abiding citizen perpetuate the overwhelming percentage of all violence in America? If they removed guns from law-abiding citizens how long, would it take for gangs and drug cartels to take over thus slaughtering countless innocents? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 10566369 United States 12/17/2012 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am my brothers keeper. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30053889 "When you do unto the least of these, you do unto me". Tsk Tsk. And we consider ourselves a Christian nation... Hell bent on clinging to our guns. We are ALL culpable and responsible for creating a society that creates mass murderers. How convenient to pull out that we are a Christian Nation when you know religion is being suppressed and even prayer is banned in schools you cannot have it your way then blame the belief system of others as being faulty. Banning guns solves nothing when the left has systematically removed God from everyone we once held dear to us as Americans. Further in all countries that have banned guns have only successfully removed guns from law-abiding citizens and simply look at the control drug cartels have and the body count each year. Look at our own country with roving gangs of youths robbing stores and malls and tell me whose fault is this really. Do you really believe we want to become as helpless as you are with a crime rate such as in the United Kingdom that has far fewer people and land mass? In the United Kingdom, law-abiding citizens were forced to turn in their guns and you somehow feel safer knowing gang members and criminals have guns. We “keep” an ever-increasing amount of entitled people on the various welfare rolls and all we have created is dependant people with no self-respect and plenty of time on their hands. Crime Statistics > Total crimes (most recent) by country [link to www.nationmaster.com] Young guns for hire: gangs recruiting children for contract killings [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] Britain, Australia top U.S. in violent crime Rates Down Under increase despite strict gun-control measures [link to consumercide.com] AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN [link to www.ncpa.org] Jesus was pretty clear in his teachings. And you want statistics, you *DO* know that the USA has the most gun related homicides *by far* of any industrialized nation, right? By PERCENTAGE, too. [link to www.washingtonpost.com] Would you not agree that gangs and NOT the law-abiding citizen perpetuate the overwhelming percentage of all violence in America? If they removed guns from law-abiding citizens how long, would it take for gangs and drug cartels to take over thus slaughtering countless innocents? How would Jesus respond to your question? (Hint - its already in the Bible). |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 10566369 United States 12/17/2012 07:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus was not a liberal. Jesus believed that the people should take care of the poor themselves. He did not say the government should force-ably steal from the masses to give to the poor. Quoting: viking thunder There is a big big difference. Well that didn't happen. The poor were not taken care of, and in fact, have been taken advantage of by the wealthier people gaming the system to their advantage. So your response is ... let them rot away because the government shouldn't be doing it? Very compassionate of you. And hell yes, Jesus was a liberal. All of his teachings demand liberalism from his followers. Love one another? If a person asks for your shirt, give him your cloak also? Turn the other cheek? Easier for a man to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the 'kingdom' of heaven'? Do unto others as you would have them do unto you? Sounds pretty damn liberal to me. |
viking thunder User ID: 30165163 United States 12/17/2012 07:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People in the Us think they are poor, but they have a home, with heating and cooling, they have food, and drink, and shoes, and clothes, and a tv.but they bitch about how poor they are. people with much less in other countries know they have a good family and life, and consider themselves rich. Rich and poor are a state of mind for the most part, and Americans are wonderful and making themselves SOUND LIKE VICTIMS. :Freedom Duck: |
milehighmike User ID: 339344 United States 12/17/2012 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus was not a liberal. Jesus believed that the people should take care of the poor themselves. He did not say the government should force-ably steal from the masses to give to the poor. Quoting: viking thunder There is a big big difference. Well that didn't happen. The poor were not taken care of, and in fact, have been taken advantage of by the wealthier people gaming the system to their advantage. So your response is ... let them rot away because the government shouldn't be doing it? Very compassionate of you. And hell yes, Jesus was a liberal. All of his teachings demand liberalism from his followers. Love one another? If a person asks for your shirt, give him your cloak also? Turn the other cheek? Easier for a man to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the 'kingdom' of heaven'? Do unto others as you would have them do unto you? Sounds pretty damn liberal to me. PLEASE define "taken care of". Poor people in this country, for the most part, have it pretty damned good compared to the rest of the world. NOTHING is "free"...I know this is contrary to your clearly black-and-white worldview... "Successful people are always looking for opportunities to help others. Unsuccessful people are always asking, 'What's in it for me?'" — Brian Tracy: Personal and business training author, speaker, and consultant "We are all, right now, living the life we choose." -- Peter McWilliams, Author "The bad news is time flies. The good news is you're the pilot." -- Michael Altshuler |
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SunDogsbd User ID: 24627047 United States 12/17/2012 08:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your premise for the argument is flawed Arms and Health care have nothing to do with each other a "Right " to one does not automatically give you a "Right" to anything else....ANYTHING.... But don't let that dusty old document get in your way.. SunDogsbd |
SunDogsbd User ID: 24627047 United States 12/17/2012 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus was not a liberal. Jesus believed that the people should take care of the poor themselves. He did not say the government should force-ably steal from the masses to give to the poor. Quoting: viking thunder There is a big big difference. Well that didn't happen. The poor were not taken care of, and in fact, have been taken advantage of by the wealthier people gaming the system to their advantage. So your response is ... let them rot away because the government shouldn't be doing it? Very compassionate of you. And hell yes, Jesus was a liberal. All of his teachings demand liberalism from his followers. Love one another? If a person asks for your shirt, give him your cloak also? Turn the other cheek? Easier for a man to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the 'kingdom' of heaven'? Do unto others as you would have them do unto you? Sounds pretty damn liberal to me. Well Jesus sounds like a very Charitable bloke yes? Now....by choice or force... SunDogsbd |
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SunDogsbd User ID: 24627047 United States 12/17/2012 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus was not a liberal. Jesus believed that the people should take care of the poor themselves. He did not say the government should force-ably steal from the masses to give to the poor. Quoting: viking thunder There is a big big difference. Well that didn't happen. The poor were not taken care of, and in fact, have been taken advantage of by the wealthier people gaming the system to their advantage. So your response is ... let them rot away because the government shouldn't be doing it? Very compassionate of you. And hell yes, Jesus was a liberal. All of his teachings demand liberalism from his followers. Love one another? If a person asks for your shirt, give him your cloak also? Turn the other cheek? Easier for a man to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the 'kingdom' of heaven'? Do unto others as you would have them do unto you? Sounds pretty damn liberal to me. Well Jesus sounds like a very Charitable bloke yes? Now....by choice or force... Since when do the liberals "OWN"..."love one another" DO only liberals love one another ?? SunDogsbd |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1242949 United States 12/17/2012 08:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am my brothers keeper. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30053889 And we consider ourselves a Christian nation... I thought you fucking limp wristed libbies declaired America not and never was a Christian nation. Jesus was a liberal. I suppose he supported gay marriage and abortion. The most important things to liberalism. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4291965 United States 12/17/2012 09:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You really are this stupid? |