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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1551413 12/16/2012 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because GOD Is the Essence of life it self if you think of god as anything more your fucking Stupid GOD HAS NO BENEVOLENT CONCIOUS it is PURE LIFE FORCE THAT IS WHAT GOD IS!!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1551413 It never had nor never will CARE for us or any of its "Creatures/Creations" Gods only fucking JOB is to make fucking sure WE ARE ALIVE when we die our LIFE FORCE RETURNS TO GOD and it is RECYCLED THAT IS WHAT GOD DOES NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS... Evil is OUR CREATION Because we are Flawed Shit Stain paracitic Creatures with no Actual moral values and only opinionated Points of Views. In non of you here Can Comprehend that Then what ever keep praying To the GOV to make life better Cause GOD will never do so. ![]() ![]() ing Again Cause Everyone is clueless IF GOD CARED he would have done something About use EONS AGO ugh I hate Ignorant Fantasy Rambles GOD LOVES MEEEEE!!!! no shit he loves you your Borrowing his Life essence to Exist and you HAVE TO GIVE IT BACK WHEN YOU DIE!!!! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1551413 12/16/2012 01:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because GOD Is the Essence of life it self if you think of god as anything more your fucking Stupid GOD HAS NO BENEVOLENT CONCIOUS it is PURE LIFE FORCE THAT IS WHAT GOD IS!!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1551413 It never had nor never will CARE for us or any of its "Creatures/Creations" Gods only fucking JOB is to make fucking sure WE ARE ALIVE when we die our LIFE FORCE RETURNS TO GOD and it is RECYCLED THAT IS WHAT GOD DOES NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS... Evil is OUR CREATION Because we are Flawed Shit Stain paracitic Creatures with no Actual moral values and only opinionated Points of Views. In non of you here Can Comprehend that Then what ever keep praying To the GOV to make life better Cause GOD will never do so. ![]() ![]() ing Again Cause Everyone is clueless IF GOD CARED he would have done something About use EONS AGO ugh I hate Ignorant Fantasy Rambles GOD LOVES MEEEEE!!!! no shit he loves you your Borrowing his Life essence to Exist and you HAVE TO GIVE IT BACK WHEN YOU DIE!!!!That is all god Des for us is LOANS US LIFE and WE PAY IT BACK |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30054070 12/16/2012 01:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because, along with there being evil in this world, there is also good... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30054070 Matthew 13:24-30 24 Jesus told them another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field. 25 But while everyone was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and went away. 26 When the wheat sprouted and formed heads, then the weeds also appeared. 27 “The owner’s servants came to him and said, ‘Sir, didn’t you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?’ 28 “‘An enemy did this,’ he replied. “The servants asked him, ‘Do you want us to go and pull them up?’ 29 “‘No,’ he answered, ‘because while you are pulling the weeds, you may root up the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.’” |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1370992 12/16/2012 01:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This thread is evil as hell. It brings out the people, who seem to think God is actually the evil one. That darkness exist inside the light, instead of the other way around. Soo much hate here, that some of the people are walking the same path that evil lies. And they blame God! friggin ridiculous. |
| the messenger User ID: 25462819 12/16/2012 01:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Select One: 1) On vacation. Everyone deserves a vacation. 2) He's evil. Really, really evil. Ever since he started listening to rap and smoking crack. 3) Doesn't give a fuck anymore. 4) Doesn't exist. Pure fantasy made up of thoughts, and pure speculation in the minds of primitive ignorant men. The answer is one of these, despite what your pastor may postulate. Don't shoot the messenger. ![]() |
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| Miggy (OP) Ever yours. Ever mine. Ever ours. User ID: 1445345 12/16/2012 01:22 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Today's scripture and journal for learning: Key Verses & Key Points 1 Peter 1:13 (New Living Translation): So think clearly and exercise self-control. Look forward to the gracious salvation that will come to you when Jesus Christ is revealed to the world. 1. Think Clearly About _________ and ___________________ 1 Peter 1:14-15 (New Living Translation): So you must live as God's obedient children. Don't slip back into your old ways of living to satisfy your own desires. You didn't know any better then. But now you must be holy in everything you do, just as God who chose you is holy. For the Scriptures say, "You must be holy because I am holy." John 15: 10-11 (New Living Translation): When you obey my commandments, you remain in my love, just as I obey my Father's commandments and remain in his love. I have told you these things so that you will be filled with my joy. Yes, your joy will overflow! 2. Think Clearly About ______ ________________ _______ 1 Peter 1:18-19 (New Living Translation): For you know that God paid a ransom to save you from the empty life you inherited from your ancestors. And the ransom he paid was not mere gold or silver. It was the precious blood of Christ.... 3. Think Clearly About _______ ______________ ________ 1 Peter 1:22 (New Living Translation): You were cleansed from your sins when you obeyed the truth, so now you must show sincere love to each other as brothers and sisters. Love each other deeply with all your heart. Ephesians 4:29 (The Message): "Watch the way you talk. Let nothing foul or dirty come out of your mouth. Say only what helps, each word a gift." Be Still and know that I am God. -Psalms 46:10 |
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Salt![]() Forum Moderator User ID: 21291600 12/16/2012 01:23 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My pastor has addressed this issue today and I believe it is beautifully spoken. Quoting: Miggy If you are having questions about this senseless tragedy, please consider watching today's service. The service begins in several minutes at 10:20 pacific time. It will be re-aired at 11:45 (PDT) and again at 12:30 (PDT). It will also air each of the following weekdays at 5 PM (PDT). There is about 20 minutes of music worship before Pastor Jud speaks (approximately 30 minutes). [link to live.mediasocial.tv] What to Expect You don’t have to do anything – come as you are! Central has a radical grace atmosphere where everyone is accepted, no matter what they have done or where they have been. Online services last one hour and include amazing worship and Bible-based teaching, along with an online community to chat and journey with! An Online Host is always available during services to answer questions, give encouragement, and pray for you. we are in the world, but not of the world. Jesus said "my kingdom is not of this world." its fallen here. but, we don't have to participate. "The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27 -- “Read everything, listen to everybody, don’t trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research” --William Cooper --- He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. --Michah 6:8 |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1154720 12/16/2012 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God does not allow evil to happen......human sin and free will are the perpetrators of evil and horrendous acts such as this shooting. Every human being has a choice whether to live as God wants us to live and follow Jesus and His teachings or turn from righteous living and follow Satan and sinful ways. It is a CHOICE we are all given. God never interferes with free will. Humans are born with sin nature. We have to be saved and turn to Christ. Satan rules this earth and will do everything in his power to deceive and turn humans away from God. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1370992 12/16/2012 01:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My pastor has addressed this issue today and I believe it is beautifully spoken. Quoting: Miggy If you are having questions about this senseless tragedy, please consider watching today's service. The service begins in several minutes at 10:20 pacific time. It will be re-aired at 11:45 (PDT) and again at 12:30 (PDT). It will also air each of the following weekdays at 5 PM (PDT). There is about 20 minutes of music worship before Pastor Jud speaks (approximately 30 minutes). [link to live.mediasocial.tv] What to Expect You don’t have to do anything – come as you are! Central has a radical grace atmosphere where everyone is accepted, no matter what they have done or where they have been. Online services last one hour and include amazing worship and Bible-based teaching, along with an online community to chat and journey with! An Online Host is always available during services to answer questions, give encouragement, and pray for you. we are in the world, but not of the world. Jesus said "my kingdom is not of this world." its fallen here. but, we don't have to participate. Because Jesus consciousness had Christ consciousness, meaning the universal consciousness. His body and mind was his Kingdom of Heaven, as our bodies our heavenly & Earthly. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 20657814 12/16/2012 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would like to ask where in the Bible we find definitive examples of free will in humans? I have read the Bible and it tells me that God's will is always done, on earth as it is in heaven. God is omnipotent, omnipresent, omnibenovolent. So if God knows everything from the past, present and future, then he surely knew this despicable act was going to happen. Why didn't he stop it? God knew Esau in the womb. He hated Esau, BEFORE he was born. If God has counted the number of hairs on our heads, then he surely knows what will happen to us before and after our death. I don't think there is any passage in scripture that would point to the fact that we have free will. Think about those poor little 6 and 7 year old kids. Did they have free will? They were in the wrong place at the wrong time and no one protected them. I think this kind of thing points to the fact that no God exists. I think we should be brave and admit this to ourselves. Maybe we would have less tragedies like this one if we adults grew up and accepted responsbility for what we do. Adults say "God willed this to happen." Or: "God allowed this to happen because of free will." Or: "Satan is active in the world and he has free reign." NO...NO...we have to STOP this. We can no longer lie to our kids. There is no God, no Satan, nothing even remotely like that. There comes a time in everyone's life when they have to grow up. This is just my honest opinion, and I know it is not the opinion of most. But if this life is all we get, which I honestly believe it is, then we must do our best to enjoy what we have. People always need more. Well, we don't get more. We have this one life and we need to stop telling lies to our kids. |
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| sleepypoochy User ID: 27493452 12/16/2012 01:33 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who the hell created GUNS/WEAPONS? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18422559 imagine a life where their were not guns Who created Guns/Weapons? From 1 Enoch: Fallen angel Gadreel. He showed the Children of Men all the blows of Death & led astray Eve & showed the Weapons of Death to the Sons and Children of Men. |
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Salt![]() Forum Moderator User ID: 21291600 12/16/2012 01:35 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who the hell created GUNS/WEAPONS? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18422559 imagine a life where their were not guns Who created Guns/Weapons? From 1 Enoch: Fallen angel Gadreel. He showed the Children of Men all the blows of Death & led astray Eve & showed the Weapons of Death to the Sons and Children of Men. weaponry, art of war, and sword making are all technologies provided by the Watchers (fallen angels) among other things, like theatre, cosmetics, fashion, etc. all designed for our corruption/destruction Last Edited by Salt on 12/16/2012 01:35 PM "The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27 -- “Read everything, listen to everybody, don’t trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research” --William Cooper --- He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. --Michah 6:8 |
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Salt![]() Forum Moderator User ID: 21291600 12/16/2012 01:39 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | here's the thing that everyone misses: the more evil and sin a man/woman engages in, the more disconnected they are from the Holy and Divine Perfect God. this world has engaged deeply in evil and sin. the world is horrifically disconnected from God. Holy cannot be in the presence of unholy. Be holy. Re-connect to God thru His expression (Jesus). "The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27 -- “Read everything, listen to everybody, don’t trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research” --William Cooper --- He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. --Michah 6:8 |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2066283 12/16/2012 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a free will universe. God allows all. Everything comes from god. Therefore, evil is a subset of god and not 'bad' (unless you consider god bad). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29029194 There is no free will! There is no difference between the future and the past. The future has already happened just as the past has. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1370992 12/16/2012 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would like to ask where in the Bible we find definitive examples of free will in humans? I have read the Bible and it tells me that God's will is always done, on earth as it is in heaven. God is omnipotent, omnipresent, omnibenovolent. So if God knows everything from the past, present and future, then he surely knew this despicable act was going to happen. Why didn't he stop it? God knew Esau in the womb. He hated Esau, BEFORE he was born. If God has counted the number of hairs on our heads, then he surely knows what will happen to us before and after our death. I don't think there is any passage in scripture that would point to the fact that we have free will. Think about those poor little 6 and 7 year old kids. Did they have free will? They were in the wrong place at the wrong time and no one protected them. I think this kind of thing points to the fact that no God exists. I think we should be brave and admit this to ourselves. Maybe we would have less tragedies like this one if we adults grew up and accepted responsbility for what we do. Adults say "God willed this to happen." Or: "God allowed this to happen because of free will." Or: "Satan is active in the world and he has free reign." NO...NO...we have to STOP this. We can no longer lie to our kids. There is no God, no Satan, nothing even remotely like that. There comes a time in everyone's life when they have to grow up. This is just my honest opinion, and I know it is not the opinion of most. But if this life is all we get, which I honestly believe it is, then we must do our best to enjoy what we have. People always need more. Well, we don't get more. We have this one life and we need to stop telling lies to our kids. It was a sacrifice to the devil worshipers, been going on for ages. The Earth is the war zone, of Good vs Evil The only time we will find heaven, is from within. We must defeat our greatest fears, as those fears will give us the strength to defeat, our demons. Planet Earth is about duality, so you decide what part of the heart you want to listen, you choose, not God. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2066283 12/16/2012 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a free will universe. God allows all. Everything comes from god. Therefore, evil is a subset of god and not 'bad' (unless you consider god bad). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29029194 There is no free will! There is no difference between the future and the past. The future has already happened just as the past has. We are experiencing a movie from beginning (birth) to the end (death). The movie exist on tape and we are experiencing the movie through time! |
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