Why does God allow this evil to continue?

Where does the system come from?

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God practices corporal punishment.


If you want the punishment to stop, repent and obey God's Law.



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Before Guns they hacked each other with sharp objects, shot you with an arrow, or shoved a stick in you. Before that they bashed you with rocks and sticks.

You might as well ask why the there has been Wars.

When you are mortal you ain´t free as well. Sin is the cause you are mortal.

Shut up with that babble.

Everyone sins. We have no choice in that. We are born this way. What free will did those little kids that were slaughtered have? The verse above says nothing. It simply says we are all sinners. I already know that. I told you that I am a sinner. But this does not prove free will. If we had free will NOT to sin, then maybe. But we are born sinners. God's WILL is done on earth and in heaven. ANd if God knows everything, BEFORE it happens, then there is no free will. RIGHT?

Yup. The Book which teaches the golden rule.

All other books are artificial man-made CRAP.

The bible preaches genocide, go away.

He who has omnipotence and partakes in evil is evil himself,if god despises evil yet allow it to continue proves that he is not all powerful,if the god of Abraham exists,is a liar void of omnipotence,or an omnipotent good indeed,but as a self correcting self balancing device who doesn't give a fuck about good or evil,only it's integrity.

So you result in accusation and consider that guys post harassment? You're no better than the people that want to ban all guns, the hypocrisy is just bleeding out of you.

the bible is man made crap, written by Jews nonetheless.

Have you done that yet? Are you sinless? You can't help being a sinner because you were born as a sinner. And if you say you don't sin, you are a Pharisee and Jesus hated those people.

cannot not effect free will

Genocide of simpletons, thank God.

Dude, I see the exact same thing with unbelievers quoting other men. We all get our information from someone else and unless you have some clever information that hasn't already been stated in the history of mankind, then you have no right to accuse Christians.

All of your history has been 'written' and you must quote them, you must have 'faith' that they have spoken the truth or you know nothing.

My spelling is bad,but i challenge you to think,and discard the god of the bible as another imaginary derivation from more ancient gods who were metaphors for illumination.

i'm out of here.

i am the most non-fundie believer there is.
fundies hate me.

the God-haters can't even read the posts for what they are because their seething resentment and ignorance is blinding them.

instead, they dole out insults and personal attacks.

if anyone really wants my perspective on the matter, feel free to PM me.

you guys go round and round all you want.
i got other stuff to do.

Thank you for the defense. I am a woman, and it is okay that he/she is doing this. It is what most all Christians do when they try to defend their faith. And I get angry too, as an atheist, when people don't listen to me. It is human nature. We all need to learn how to love each other, regardless of what we believe. I know...pot...kettle...black. I am trying to be better.

My husband has a "friend" who is an athiest and one of the nicest guys you would ever want to meet.

Now this probably won't make much sense to you as a non-believer but I'm hoping you can comprehend this

There IS a God and He says in His Word, His existence is manifest throughout the earth and the heavens.. So that no one is without excuse. Romans I:19 & 20. I paraphrased the verse.

There are only two forces at work on the earth. Good=God and evil=satan. During the fall of man (Adam & Eve) we gave ourselves through our own will over to the evil force by embracing his lie and rebelling against God.

If you have not willingly made a conscious, deliberate decision to accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior.. you are still under the authority of satan. He has you exactly where he wants you and you will probably not encounter many spiritual battles. What would be his point?? You are his, lock, stock and barrel. Why upset the applecart when you can be so secure in how "good" you are.

Once a person becomes "born again" and accepts Jesus into their heart, satan has his throngs of minions and demons working overtime to do everything possible to discredit their character. It is a constant spiritual battle being a Christian. Satan hates God.. and hates His children. We are priority #1 on his "hit list".

I'm not making excuses for your neighbor.. but I completely understand how they could be under attack 24/7. The Bible says "The flesh is willing but the spirit is weak". We long to do good but many, many times for short.

Thankfully God looks on our heart.. If we truly love Him, He extends us His grace. If there is something phoney, fake or insincere ( your neighbors . He will deal with us in His time, in His way and I'm sure it won't be pretty.

Eternity is a very.. very.. very long time. Please call on the Lord and ask Him to speak to your heart. Believe that Jesus is the Son of God, born of a virgin, Who died for our sins and rose again.

There have been many athiests who have set out to prove that there is no God only to find that He very much exists. They make the most persuasive Christians.

Hope this helps if even just a bit

For me, I believe in free-will. I believe that we can choose to cause suffering, or choose to create healing in this world around us.

When "bad" things have happened, I have often seen that it has been a result of someone's personal choice.

When it has not been seemingly as the result of someone's personal choice, I live by the motto: Sometimes we can not choose what happens to us, only how we react to it. Is there a lesson in it? Is there learning in it? What will be my reaction, what will be my choice?

No matter a person's beliefs, or non-beliefs, I respect those who choose a path of love and healing, as opposed to engagement in suffering and destruction. We are all better-off for it.

It's the inspired Word of God. If you stay in denial then I'm sorry for you.

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" For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses
that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will
certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven."


Matthew 5:20


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if i had an imaginary friend that i talked to and asked advice and such id be labeled crazy insane mental....BUT do the same with imaginary god and your labeled spiritual,righteous,enlightened looked at as a upstanding citizen.........."same thing if you believe in ufo's" thats quite some logic

This is why I have Miggy on ignore I guess. I should not have clicked the hidden thread. Never click the hidden threads.

Already addressed this. If there is no God, they you and I are culpable to the atrocities that exist in this world; we are guilty and have only ourselves to blame...not God.

There.

and Jesus is coming back on Dec. 21 and he's gonna kill everyone on the planet.

That's it.

You atheists admit that you are evil when you say, "how can God exist when all this bad stuff happens and nothing is being done?"

Who is causing the bad stuff?

Last Edited by Petrus on 12/16/2012 02:32 PM

Hello Miggy! Hope you have a marvelous day as well.

Well, how's that, "believing in yourself", going there? The world still stinks to high heaven and without the 'imaginary friend', it will continue to do so, I reckon!

When you get it figured out on your own, let the rest of us know. Thanks!