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i think the one thing that links all of these cases is that they all have mental illness and the possibility that meds are not being monitored.

any minor on meds should be closely monitored.
there should be better protocols in place to make sure these kids are stable and on the proper medication, if any med is needed at all.

we still live in the friggin dark ages and striving for quick fixes then completely ignore the core issues.

there will be no easy fix.
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The real focus of banning should be big pharm.
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clappa
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clappa

The pissers who pay off the government for lobbying favors.
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And make mucho deniro off our staying ill..
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i think the one thing that links all of these cases is that they all have mental illness and the possibility that meds are not being monitored.

any minor on meds should be closely monitored.
there should be better protocols in place to make sure these kids are stable and on the proper medication, if any med is needed at all.

we still live in the friggin dark ages and striving for quick fixes then completely ignore the core issues.

there will be no easy fix.
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Thats just on the surface of issues with anti's and stimulants. In the coming years many kids who were put on these poisons at an early stage will develop heart problems galore, nobody has studied long term usage of these drugs. But a stimulant is a stimulant, and i have heard for years on end that cocaine or speed will kill your heart, so why is a stimulant good for developing kids.

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This thread made me do a bit of research.

Back in the 90's I was going through a difficult time at work. My doctor puts me on Paxil.

Within 2 weeks I was DEEPLY depressed. Far beyond when I first had seen the Dr. I call him and he tells me I've not given the drug enough time.
Needless to say, I worsened rapidly and was suicidal.

In my twisted state of thought, I had the foresight to stop the Paxil ASAP. Within days, I felt my normal self return. I've been fine since, I may add.

If Paxil can cause suicidal tendencies, it surely can cause homicidal ones as well. THIS is what they're giving America's children....And they wonder why the increase in these cases. They know damn well why it's happening.


I never thought anymore about it until this thread. Then I uncovered this:

Cover Up? Paxil and Suicide RiskYes, it appears the makers of Paxil may have been a bit disingenuous in their publication of the risks of suicide associated with their medication back in the early 1990s.

[link to psychcentral.com]
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It is important for people to understand the specific definition of these drugs and their function. Typically, the MAO, Non-MAO, SSRI and certain other drugs are defined in medical literature as Neuroleptic drugs. The definition here says a lot. These drugs do nothing to treat the situation and the definition says so. These drugs only restrain behavior. They are chemical “strait jackets.” They make it difficult for a person to do anything. Under the influence of these drugs, the person does not present [exhibit symptoms] with his rash behavior. He still wants to do it and becomes, over time, more and more determined in his course of action; he just cannot do it while the drugs are in control.



The basic problem here is the loss of the control. It comes in several forms. Over time, these drugs become less and less effective. They also cause serious brain damage to the person over time in the form of dementia which results in more and more irrational behavior. Over time, the person gets a lot worse. The typical time for this is about three to five years for any particular drug. Persons are given different drugs periodically, as time diminishes the drug’s effect. The damage to the person continues.

As the person becomes more and more damaged, they also become angrier more easily and more quickly. People handling Alzheimer’s disease patients and family become familiar with the person who was previously so nice and friendly, becoming more and more likely to strike out or do rash acts. This is the progression of dementia. Remember that the damage is never exactly in a pattern. It shows up differently in every unique individual.

The worst of this situation was the penetration of psychoactive drugs into the handling of childhood problems. It was combined use of these drugs and of those foolish ideas that good intentions trumped good execution. This trained our young people in the means and methods of mass murder and excused it as entertainment. We see this in the video games our youth play. While almost all persons playing those violent games do not have any problem with them, the truly insane have a real problem and they are the issue.

Great article: [link to pesn.com]
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applause
Put a lion in a cage for years without food and watch what happens.
Its appetite will of cause grow and grow, and then you point your finger at its hunger?
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This thread made me do a bit of research.

Back in the 90's I was going through a difficult time at work. My doctor puts me on Paxil.

Within 2 weeks I was DEEPLY depressed. Far beyond when I first had seen the Dr. I call him and he tells me I've not given the drug enough time.
Needless to say, I worsened rapidly and was suicidal.

In my twisted state of thought, I had the foresight to stop the Paxil ASAP. Within days, I felt my normal self return. I've been fine since, I may add.

If Paxil can cause suicidal tendencies, it surely can cause homicidal ones as well. THIS is what they're giving America's children....And they wonder why the increase in these cases. They know damn well why it's happening.


I never thought anymore about it until this thread. Then I uncovered this:

Cover Up? Paxil and Suicide RiskYes, it appears the makers of Paxil may have been a bit disingenuous in their publication of the risks of suicide associated with their medication back in the early 1990s.

[link to psychcentral.com]
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A couple more excerps

One of those discrepancies was a pretty big one — that Paxil resulted in a suicide rate 8 times greater than a sugar pill. That’s a huge, major difference.

In other words, some pharmaceutical companies go to great lengths to “stack the deck” to ensure that when the study begins, they get the best results possible.

Keep in mind, too, that anyone who is seriously suicidal or depressed is actually excluded from participating in these kinds of studies. This only reinforces the importance of these findings — these are people who were not actively or seriously suicidal before taking Paxil.
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List of school shootings known to be linked to SSRIs

[link to www.ssristories.com]

CALL TO ACTION: The only way Americans are going to halt this latest gun-grabber attack on the Bill of Rights is to force the issue of SSRI-caused violence into the public eye.

You, yes YOU need to forward all these articles about SSRIs and violence, and the fact that the Connecticut shooter was on these medications, to all your local media, all your family and friends, every public forum you can find, and especially to flood the offices of members of Congress (who already had hearings into this very problem).

Right now that fancy software the government bought to fake thousands of online identities is cranked up into rock-and-roll, full-tilt, afterburner overdrive.

Unless We The People match them post for post, fact for myth, the gun-grabbers will win through attrition.

The first side to quit loses.

PLEASE SPREAD ALL THESE STORIES ABOUT SSRI-VIOLENCE, and demand to know if the Dark Knight Shooter and the shooter at the shopping mall in Portland were also on these drugs.

[link to www.ssristories.com]
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i have two kids, both of them have mental illness. i provide an excellent home life for them both and there is nothing wrong with my parenting. My kids' brains are wired different. Runs rampant on their dad's side of the family. And all of us are good, healthy, loving families, who care deeply for our children. they aren't spoiled, neglected, abused, etc etc etc.

it's mental illness. it's gray matter matters.

while my older kid (extremely gifted and high IQ, ADD and meets some criterion for Aspergers) did not respond well to meds, as a result, i implemented diligent efforts to help make his life as successful as possible. it wasn't easy and consumed a good bit of our daily life.

my youngest is on meds. without them she is in torment. she has Oppositional Defiant, ADHD (severe), and also has an advanced and gifted intellect for her age. not only are the meds necessary for her sanity, without them she is miserable and quite frankly, it's like she's driven by a demon. we did not find the right one right away. and ALL of her med trials were done in medical setting. i also implement very stategic parenting style that empowers her in a healthy way and offers functionality and success in her daily life.

luckily, my daughter has medicine that actually helps her. without them, she behaves exactly like Michael from the article linked below. i have been thru everything she describes (prior to meds and therapy for her).

it isn't easy. people don't understand what life is like with kids with mental illness. most parents live with false judgments, scrutiny, etc etc. if a child doesn't behave "properly" it's always the mother's fault. "just spank them more" or "they are spoiled". I know, i've heard it all.

none of it is true. being the mother of special needs children means my job as a parent is double, maybe triple as challenging than in a standard home. any parent who has a child like this and doesn't put in the effort that it takes to care, nurture and teach their child, is not qualified to be a parent. and.... it takes a village.


my kids are gifted. kids like this need their gifts properly channeled and parents that are diligent, present, and steadfast. having special needs kids means you have to work much much harder as a parent. if a parent is not willing to put in the effort and the time then they will have kids who are tormented and fail in the societal structure.


look at this article:
[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

i totally relate to this mother.
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The Link Between School Shootings & Vet Suicides is Big Pharma not Guns

The media is quick to jump on, and point out the gun issue in this tragic shooting.

Yet what they fail time and time again to point out is that in every single case bar none, Big Pharma anti-psychotic drugs have been ingested.

It is being reported that today's shooter in Connecticut has a history of mental illiness already.

Odd that the mainstream media has failed to point that out, or is it?

Not LSD, not Marijuana, not even alcohol, but prescription drugs like Prozac, Zoloft, Trazodone, Xanax, etc, etc.

"At least fourteen recent school shootings were committed by those taking or withdrawing from psychiatric drugs. There have been 109 wounded and 58 killed.

Of these 14, seven were seeing either a psychiatrist (5 of them) or psychologist (2 of them).

It is not known whether or not the other half were seeing a psychiatrist, as it has not been published." (CCHR)

Read Full Article:
[link to truthalliance.net]
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Believe me when I say that the media is "owned" by Big Pharma and the FDA, that is why nothing is mentioned about anti-psychotic drugs, or any drugs for that matter, in the news. Not to mention what caused these people to be mentally messed up to begin with. Society fails these people who badly need help. Chances are that a vitamin and mineral deficiency, combined with chemicals that are in EVERYTHING that we eat today, are a contributing factor to the problem. If anyone ever listens to the Kevin Trudeau radio show, they will know just how evil Big Pharma really is.
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The school departments are pushing these drugs onto the kids. My friend has been fighting with them because they want to put her 6 year old on ridalin because he becomes distracted around noon time. I am trying to help her know her rights. My other friend works in a school department and says ridalin is the most over prescribed drug ever. It is a crime what they are doing to kids, big pharm is ruining a whole generation. I guess these problems aren't just in America either.
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Once again the state shows its true intent.

One of the greatest crimes in the history of man is the state sanctioned, forced drugging, of children into submission so that they can attend state run indoctrination clinics also known as school.

The state is the enemy of all free men and women.
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The school departments are pushing these drugs onto the kids. My friend has been fighting with them because they want to put her 6 year old on ridalin because he becomes distracted around noon time. I am trying to help her know her rights. My other friend works in a school department and says ridalin is the most over prescribed drug ever. It is a crime what they are doing to kids, big pharm is ruining a whole generation. I guess these problems aren't just in America either.
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It is so sad to see that happen, when all the kid probably needs is some good nutrition, without all the chemical additives and GMO products. It is a sick world we live in, and people need to educate themselves about what is good for them and their families. We have all been brainwashed into believing that that pharmaceutical drugs are the answer because that is what our doctors tell us. Most doctors have been brainwashed as well.
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The real focus of banning should be big pharm.
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No truer words spoken...unfortunately, that will probably never happen. Too much money and corruption involved.
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I agree that people in general are overmedicated, but where does it say that this kid was on any medication??? If his "mental disorder" is Aspergers, then IT IS NOT TREATED WITH MEDICATION. I wish people would research Aspergers. It is not linked to violent behavior.wtf
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UPDATE on first funerals to be held today

[link to gma.yahoo.com]


verysad
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I agree that people in general are overmedicated, but where does it say that this kid was on any medication??? If his "mental disorder" is Aspergers, then IT IS NOT TREATED WITH MEDICATION. I wish people would research Aspergers. It is not linked to violent behavior.wtf
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Obviously Aspergers is not what lead this guy to do what he did. At this point, the medication link has been speculated in the media. I imagine it will be confirmed soon. Hard to say since his mom is dead and he is dead and the rest of the family did not seem to interact much with him. His drs are probably not able to confirm pubicly his treatments, but it will come out if he was or was not on meds.
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they put me on citalopram and beta blockers for a couple of months, that shit is fucked up. i just stopped taking them because they just fucked with my head too much, mdma was the drug that finally bought me out of a two year episode of depression, i was just so shocked to feel happy again it was like being hit with a freight train, just one hit was all it took, and nowdays i just use a little bud to help with depression. works for me and without all of the head fuck that you get from ssri's
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Most of the time it is a vitamin deficiency but doctors
refuse to do tests like amino acids test because they would
have to recommend supplements or eating mineral dense
food to heal them. They wont do that to go against big pharma
whose SSRI 's CURE NOTHING. Check the SSRI forums to see
the unnecessary suffering
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i'll tell you what...

if anything,
people need to realize the state of the world we live in and how overwhelming it is for kids these days to survive in the midst of this shit.

i would NOT want to be a child in this world today.
people should be creating an environment that is supporting our kids and helping them to stay sane in this insane earth.
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Dont forget this school shooting story from 1966!


Charles Joseph Whitman (June 24, 1941 – August 1, 1966) was a student at the University of Texas at Austin who shot and killed 14 people (including those who survived the initial shooting but later died as a result of their injuries) and wounded 31 others from the observation deck of the University's Main Building of The University of Texas at Austin on August 1, 1966, after murdering his wife and mother, and before being shot by Austin police.


Whitman discussed his depression with the University's doctor, Jan Cochrun, who prescribed Valium and recommended he visit campus psychiatrist

[link to murderpedia.org]
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I haven't heard much about this case: Thread: Oklahoma School: Shooting--Bombing Plot= FAIL


Why am I betting that he may be on some sort of psychotic drugs, as well?
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I agree that people in general are overmedicated, but where does it say that this kid was on any medication??? If his "mental disorder" is Aspergers, then IT IS NOT TREATED WITH MEDICATION. I wish people would research Aspergers. It is not linked to violent behavior.wtf
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Obviously Aspergers is not what lead this guy to do what he did. At this point, the medication link has been speculated in the media. I imagine it will be confirmed soon. Hard to say since his mom is dead and he is dead and the rest of the family did not seem to interact much with him. His drs are probably not able to confirm pubicly his treatments, but it will come out if he was or was not on meds.
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I DO know an Aspergers on meds....
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I tried taking zoloft, and in some situations it helped, but that was only 30% of the time, the rest of my time on the medication I felt worse, INFACT now that I think about it, the only time I was close to suicide was when i was taking fucking zoloft
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Haunting reality of the drug and nano-tech wavelengths co =mingling
into a SAND MAN ENTER reality:

[link to www.youtube.com]

Considering the illuminati aspects of music and drugs:

S and Y
snake and woman
beast and earth
dragon and virgin

Hook...pretty self evident.

It's getting weirder by the minute
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i'll tell you what...

if anything,
people need to realize the state of the world we live in and how overwhelming it is for kids these days to survive in the midst of this shit.

i would NOT want to be a child in this world today.
people should be creating an environment that is supporting our kids and helping them to stay sane in this insane earth.
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You said it, Salt! I feel sorry for kids growing up today. The world was much more carefree when I was growing up. I left the house with my friends in the late morning, and didn't come back until dinner time. My son is 27 and my daughter is 12, and it is her that I worry about in this fucked up world, even though she has a good head on her shoulders.
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i'll tell you what...

if anything,
people need to realize the state of the world we live in and how overwhelming it is for kids these days to survive in the midst of this shit.

i would NOT want to be a child in this world today.
people should be creating an environment that is supporting our kids and helping them to stay sane in this insane earth.
 Quoting: Salt


You said it, Salt! I feel sorry for kids growing up today. The world was much more carefree when I was growing up. I left the house with my friends in the late morning, and didn't come back until dinner time. My son is 27 and my daughter is 12, and it is her that I worry about in this fucked up world, even though she has a good head on her shoulders.
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amen
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most of the time the reasons these kids snap is because they go off their pills, fact
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The withdrawal from these toxic mind-fucking chemicals is BRUTAL.

This is well-documented.

Makes one wonder with all these zombies hooked on this crap, walking around amongst us, are gonna do when the grid goes down and they lose access to their fix...

Should be a treat.
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Is this why there is so much interest in zombies nowadays? Because with meds we have created so many of them?

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