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Was 9/11 A Foretype of the suddeen destrtuction of Babylon?

 
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18 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.

2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.

7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,

10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.

11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:

12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,

13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.

14 And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all.

15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,

16 And saying, Alas, alas that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!

17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,

18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!

19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.

20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.

21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;

23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
 Quoting: Revelation 18
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an anti-type perhaps
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Explain pls?
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After 9-11 the USA did become:

" a habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit "


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the question becomes if this has already passed, where was the angel calling His people out of her lest we partake in her sins?

btw I think the statue of liberty sits on many waters, and 'liberty' has many names...
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I always thought that prophesy was for the Catholic Church, since in the Bible a women is usually a symbol for a church. But I guess we will see.
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FFS, you bible toting/quoting chris tards....
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I always thought that prophesy was for the Catholic Church, since in the Bible a women is usually a symbol for a church. But I guess we will see.
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Isn't the Church the woman called into the 'wilderness'?

think about it

The angel says come out of her my people. The dragons spews a flood at her. But the earth opens up to swallow it. Remind you of anything? It could be an end times exodus :-) BTW Ishtar is the Whore of Babylon, the Mother of Harlots (Cicero)

She has many names.

:-D

praise be to God!
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The ancient Biblical archetype was the Babylonian empire
that held Israelites [and most of the other peoples in
the Middle East] captive.

Israelites did not leave Babylon until it was time [God had
decreed a 70 year Babylonian punishment] then God's Anointed
King from the East, Cyrus, conquered Babylon, liberated the
captives and returned/restored Babylon's captives back to
their native lands.



Quotes from Jeremiah 51:

" Babylon hath been a golden cup in the LORD'S hand, that made all the earth drunken: the nations have drunken of her wine; therefore the nations are mad.

Babylon is suddenly fallen and destroyed: howl for her; take balm for her pain, if so be she may be healed.

We would have healed Babylon, but she is not healed: forsake her, and let us go every one into his own country: for her judgment reacheth unto heaven, and is lifted up even to the skies. "


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" And I will punish Bel in Babylon, and I will bring forth out of his mouth that which he hath swallowed up: and the nations shall not flow together any more unto him: yea, the wall of Babylon shall fall.

My people, go ye out of the midst of her, and deliver ye every man his soul from the fierce anger of the LORD. "



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King Cyrus' decree for a portion of the Israelites
to return to Jerusalem and rebuild the temple.

The temple was completed by decree of King Darius
[Cyrus' son-in-law.]




Quotes from Ezra 1



" In the first year of Cyrus king of Persia, in order to fulfill the word of the Lord spoken by Jeremiah, the Lord moved the heart of Cyrus king of Persia to make a proclamation throughout his realm and to put it in writing:

“This is what Cyrus king of Persia says:

“‘The Lord, the God of heaven, has given me all the kingdoms of the earth and he has appointed me to build a temple for him at Jerusalem in Judah.

Anyone of his people among you — may his God be with him, and let him go up to Jerusalem in Judah and build the temple of the Lord, the God of Israel, the God who is in Jerusalem.

And the people of any place where survivors may now be living are to provide him with silver and gold, with goods and livestock, and with freewill offerings for the temple of God in Jerusalem.
’”



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As you can see... in the Old Testament archetype,
God's People weren't on their own, leaving Babylon
helter skelter... God's Anointed King decreed and
organized it and was watching out for them.



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As you can see... this is one of my favorite subjects.

But it appears there is no one left who shares my interest...
not even the OP !



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The hornPope is just an actor.
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OP posted: " The angel says come out of her my people. "

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Which angel... Michael ;-)



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I am very much interested brother. I was reading Ezekiel 8 last night and I can't help but wonder if you could shed any light on specifically which idol provoked the Lords jealousy?

It wouldn't be Ba'al or Ishtar would it?
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As for Babylonian's statue of libertine,
the seven spikes on her crown are supposed
to represent the seven seas [many waters]
and seven continents [mountains upon which
she sits] of the earth.

The immigrant poem associated with the statue
glorifies the peoples of the nations flowing
into Babylon [see the Jeremiah quote in my
previous post.]



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OP posted: " The angel says come out of her my people. "

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Which angel... Michael ;-)



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He's my favorite angel!
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E Pluribus Unum

:-)

the melting pot. a sure characteristic of Babylon
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Atossa got an e-mail address?
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Read the Bible story about King Josiah
and how when he decreed a repair on the
temple, they found the books of God's Law
[apparently none of them knew God's Law.]

King Josiah was very upset because Israel
was disobeying God's Law... they had even
allowed sodomites in God's temple.

King Josiah knew that if his kingdom continued
in sin [sin = transgression of God's Law] his
kingdom would be destroyed. So, King Josiah
repented and rid his kingdom of the evil that
offended God.

Because King Josiah repented and made amends,
God allowed Jerusalem to continue for the rest
of the king's life... so that the king would
not see the horrible destruction God would
eventually bring upon Jerusalem and the temple.
That destruction would come in the form of
Babylon and Edom - Babylon destroyed Jerusalem
and Edom burned the temple... and the Israelites
were carried away captive for 70 years.




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email rusatossa@yahoo.com


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Atossa would you share your thoughts on this:

The Seventy “Sevens”

20 While I was speaking and praying, confessing my sin and the sin of my people Israel and making my request to the Lord my God for his holy hill— 21 while I was still in prayer, Gabriel, the man I had seen in the earlier vision, came to me in swift flight about the time of the evening sacrifice. 22 He instructed me and said to me, “Daniel, I have now come to give you insight and understanding. 23 As soon as you began to pray, a word went out, which I have come to tell you, for you are highly esteemed. Therefore, consider the word and understand the vision:

24 “Seventy ‘sevens’[c] are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish[d] transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the Most Holy Place.[e]

25 “Know and understand this: From the time the word goes out to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One,[f] the ruler, comes, there will be seven ‘sevens,’ and sixty-two ‘sevens.’ It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble. 26 After the sixty-two ‘sevens,’ the Anointed One will be put to death and will have nothing.[g] The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed. 27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’[h] In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple[j] he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.[k]”[l]
 Quoting: Daniel 9
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OP... I don't try to force an interpretation...
I wait until God is ready to reveal it to me.

Those specific verses parallel the 70 years
Israel was desinted to be in Babylonian bondage
until God's Anointed King [Cyrus] conquered Babylon
and liberated Israel.

Interesingly, Cyrus was about 62 years old when he
conquered Babylon ["Darius" in the book of Daniel
is another title for Cyrus.] Which means, Cyrus
was born about 7-8 years into Israel's captivity.

I have it in my mind that for our time it should be
read backwards... but as I said... I don't want to
force a subjective interpretation.


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18 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.

2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.

7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,

10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.

11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:

12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,

13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.

14 And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all.

15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,

16 And saying, Alas, alas that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!

17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,

18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!

19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.

20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.

21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;

23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
 Quoting: Revelation 18

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YES! AMEN!

Avenge us LORD.. For the time has come.
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Modern Babylonian captivity began in 1945.

Seven years later, God's Anointed was born.


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Modern Babylonian captivity began in 1945.

Seven years later, God's Anointed was born.


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I would think 1948 which is when Israels Declaration of Independence was chartered. Why do you say 1945. If you're right it means that this child is not born yet. Very exciting!
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You people totally live in a fantasy world....

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Babylon [jew/nwo] reigned supreme with no man to oppose it beginning in 1945.

Seven years later, 1952, God's Anointed was born.

1952 was a huge year for UFO sightings... including a two major UFO incidents in Washington DC.

If the analogy holds true... 62 years later [unless God cuts the time short]
Mystery, Babylon will be totally destroyed.





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The antichrist Edomite-jew state is an abomination.

It was set-up in the middle of the first week [1945-1952.]

Several months after May 1948 the antichirst jews destroyed Christian churches and holy sites. War continued until 1949.


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@Iceland

This is not a fantasy world.

This is history... repeating itself.


Babylon and Cyrus were real... and their modern versions are just as real.



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" I saw heaven standing open and there before me
was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful
and True. With justice He judges and makes war. "

Rev 19:11



" And at that time shall Michael stand up,
the great prince which stands for the
children of your people: and there shall be
a time of trouble, such as never was since
there was a nation even to that same time:
and at that time your people shall be delivered,
every one that shall be found written in the book. "


Daniel 12:1




" And there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels
fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels
fought back. "

Rev 12:7



" And the dragon lost the battle, and he and his angels
were forced out of heaven. "

Rev 12:8



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