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Gun control does NOT work! UK is the example.

 
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Gun control does NOT work! UK is the example.
Feel free to use this story as a reply to anyone that says gun control reduces gun violence.

So would banning guns actually reduce gun violence and crime? Well we do have a model to look at, and it’s the same model I point to when people want to start talking socialized medicine, it’s the United Kingdom. On the heels of the Dunblane massacre in Scotland in 1996 where 16 young children and their teacher were killed in the gym of their school by Thomas Hamilton, the cries went up just like they are going up in America now and ultimately a proposal was put forth banning all handguns, except .22 caliber target pistols.

Three months after the Dunblane massacre in March 1996, there was a national firearms amnesty that saw nearly 23,000 firearms and 700,000 rounds of ammunition surrendered.

Did it work? Actually it made things worse.

In 2003, just 7 years after the ban, the London Telegraph reported that firearms offenses have more than doubled since Dunblane.
 Quoting: [link to freedomoutpost.com]


[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

Gun crime has more than doubled since 1996, the year of the Dunblane massacre, according to the latest Home Office statistics.

Last year (2002) it reached its highest ever level with more than 10,000 recorded offences involving firearms.
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"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy."
- James Madison

“The first time you blow someone away is not an insignificant event. That said, there are some assholes in the world that just need to be shot.”
- Marine Gen. James Mattis
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It works to disarm the people and make them more dependent and unable to resist Government controllers.

It does exactly what it is supposed to do, empowers the few to control the masses.

It makes people afraid to stand up to the real criminals.

It makes people easy targets for destruction and fear tactics.
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"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy."
- James Madison

“The first time you blow someone away is not an insignificant event. That said, there are some assholes in the world that just need to be shot.”
- Marine Gen. James Mattis
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I wonder if the OP would have the balls to prodce the facts. Gun deaths prior to the ban vs. gun deaths since the ban. Oh nevermind, I forgot that rightwingers have no interest in the facts.
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in 2009 there were 42 gun-related deaths in Great Britain. This number includes homicides, suicides and accidental deaths.

In 2005 (the latest year for which numbers are available) there were 30,364 gun-related deaths in the United States. This number includes homicides, suicides, and accidental deaths.

True, the United States has more people than Great Britain so you can’t really compare these two numbers. Britain has about 61 million, while the United States has about 296 million, which gives the U.S. about five times the population of Great Britain. So, a better comparison of the numbers would be to multiple the British gun deaths by five.

42 x 5 = 210

Now we can compare the numbers.

Gun-related deaths for Great Britain (if given a population equal to the United States) = 210

Gun-related deaths in the United States = 30,364.

210 vs. 30,364

Wow.
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in 2009 there were 42 gun-related deaths in Great Britain. This number includes homicides, suicides and accidental deaths.

In 2005 (the latest year for which numbers are available) there were 30,364 gun-related deaths in the United States. This number includes homicides, suicides, and accidental deaths.

True, the United States has more people than Great Britain so you can’t really compare these two numbers. Britain has about 61 million, while the United States has about 296 million, which gives the U.S. about five times the population of Great Britain. So, a better comparison of the numbers would be to multiple the British gun deaths by five.

42 x 5 = 210

Now we can compare the numbers.

Gun-related deaths for Great Britain (if given a population equal to the United States) = 210

Gun-related deaths in the United States = 30,364.

210 vs. 30,364

Wow.
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So in 2009 42 died in the UK.. How many kids died the other day?
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In Salford, a small city adjacent to Manchester, UK, gun crime has been rampant, for the past 20 years.
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In Salford, a small city adjacent to Manchester, UK, gun crime has been rampant, for the past 20 years.
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figures and facts baby... rampant = what exactly?
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ok tell you what. you yanks keep on about holding on to your guns thats fine by me, keep them, buy more, get as much ammo as you can, them blow the fuck out of each other, which in turn will make it a better place for the rest of us, less yanks = better planet.
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I guess the OP is now not going to reply to this thread so it disappears as quickly as possible.

2009: 210 vs 31,000+

"you do the math"
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yup wish i had a damm gun, would of been 6 deads kids the other month when the fuckers broke into my house and held me at knife point(bloody machette). little fuckers, and did the police care?

found them up the road 5 minutes after they left so great job by our brave men in black
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In Salford, a small city adjacent to Manchester, UK, gun crime has been rampant, for the past 20 years.
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figures and facts baby... rampant = what exactly?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29640603


Actually, I was wrong about that.

Gun crime has been rampant in Salford, for over 40 years!
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I guess the OP is now not going to reply to this thread so it disappears as quickly as possible.

2009: 210 vs 31,000+

"you do the math"
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I went to the store. Am I not allowed out of the house now?

Those are some interesting numbers. Too bad they are not factual. Try linking the source next time.
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- James Madison

“The first time you blow someone away is not an insignificant event. That said, there are some assholes in the world that just need to be shot.”
- Marine Gen. James Mattis
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I wonder:

If the US got disarmed, would the NWO roll in on the UK, Australia, Canada, everywhere there have been no guns (plus, now, the US)?

They know if they roll in, now, the US will flip out and NEVER turn in guns. Maybe this is why "all seems well" with the gun bans so far.

Just a thought...
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Politicians are enablers of mass murder through leniency on criminals and their behavior for profits, jobs, and pensions, and allowing criminal activity through leniency to justify the taking away of rights of law-abiding citizens.
God deals out punishment through our hands, and politicians tie our hands out of fear, faithlessness, and profit in the justice system.

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