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All of the MEDIA are in on it! CNN, MSNBC, FOX, etc. Who can we trust?

 
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Btw what's with these folks, why didn't they get that god given conscience that leads people to discern truth from non truth? They don't seem to know all commandments from the Bible at all. chuckle

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I already explained:
In Romans we find that, although they have no excuse for not knowing God, and they knew God, but they did not honor Him as God, or give thanks; but they became futile in their speculations and their foolish heart was darkened; they became fools (thinking they were smart), and made idols to worship, so God gave them over to their sins and their evils and their lusts. They deliberately chose to believe lies and to disobey Him...they didn't want to give up their sins, and so they descended deeper and deeper into sin. It is increasingly evil and destructive.
They have no excuse. They deliberately chose evil.
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No one it's all fear mongering us into obey and follow the government's plans to start annihilating our rights including our right to bear arms. Which'll give them more power and help them toward their agenda.

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I knew our media was dead when they all lied and covered up 9/11

that was my turning point,,i no longer trusted anything they said,,they failed the public...propaganda lies and disinformation..
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The newest version of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) includes an amendment that would legalize the use of propaganda on the American public, reports Michael Hastings of BuzzFeed.

The amendment — proposed by Mac Thornberry (R-Texas) and Adam Smith (D-Wash.) and passed in the House last Friday afternoon — would effectively nullify the Smith-Mundt Act of 1948, which explicitly forbids information and psychological operations aimed at influencing U.S. public opinion.


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Did God Create Evil - Does the Bible Say So?
by Rich Deem
Introduction One of the most common reasons skeptics reject the existence of God is due to the presence of evil in this universe. They reason that a perfect God would not create a universe in which evil exists. Skeptics claim that since God created everything that God must have also created evil. They even cite Bible verses, such as:

•I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. (Isaiah 45:7, KJV)
•Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it? (Amos 3:6, KJV)
•Out of the mouth of the most High proceedeth not evil and good? (Lamentations 3:38)
However, evil is not really a created thing. You can't see, touch, feel, smell or hear evil. It is not one of the fundamental forces of physics, nor does it consist of matter, energy, or the spatial dimensions of the universe. Still, skeptics like to claim that God created evil and cite the Bible to "prove" their point. The Bible is quite clear that God is not the author of evil and insists that He is incapable of doing so.1

Love that King James translation!Skeptics love the KJV so much, one would think that they were still back in medieval England. Use of this translation is problematic these days, since it uses an archaic version of modern English, which doesn't necessarily mean the same things today as when it was translated over 400 years ago. In addition, the KJV was produced using a limited number of medieval manuscripts that did not represent the earliest Alexandrian set of manuscripts.

What do the modern translations say?

•The One forming light and creating darkness, Causing well-being and creating calamity; I am the LORD who does all these. (Isaiah 45:7, NASB)
•I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things. (Isaiah 45:7, NIV)
Isaiah 45:7 contrasts opposites. Darkness is the opposite of light. However, evil is not the opposite of peace. The Hebrew word translated "peace" is shâlôm,2 which has many meanings, mostly related to the well being of individuals. Râ‛âh,3 the Hebrew word translated "evil" in the KJV often refers to adversity or calamity. There are two forms of the word. Strong's H7451a most often refers to moral evil, whereas Strong's H7451b (the form used here) most often refers to calamity or distress. Obviously, "calamity" is a better antonym of "peace" than "evil."

Amos 3:6

•If a trumpet is blown in a city will not the people tremble? If a calamity occurs in a city has not the LORD done it? (Amos 3:6, NASB)
•When a trumpet sounds in a city, do not the people tremble? When disaster comes to a city, has not the LORD caused it? (Amos 3:6, NIV)
Likewise, Amos 3:6 uses the same word, râ‛âh, referring to calamity or disaster. the context (a disaster happening to a city) does not refer to moral evil.

Lamentations 3:38

•Is it not from the mouth of the Most High that both calamities and good things come? (Lamentations 3:38, NIV)
•Is it not from the mouth of the Most High That both good and ill go forth? (Lamentations 3:38, NASB)
The King James Version of Lamentations 3:38 seems to suggest that God speaks both good and evil. However, if one reads the verse in context, the preceding verses indicate that God does not do or approve of evil.4 The verse following indicates that people should not complain in view of their sins.5 What the verse really is saying that God decrees times of good things and times of judgment. Lamentations was written by Jeremiah during a time of judgment, when Judah had gone off into exile. Jeremiah was chosen by God to be the prophet to tell Judah to reform or be judged. The people did not believe Jeremiah, and, therefore, fell under God's judgment. In Lamentations 3:38, the word translated "good" is ṭôb (Strong's H2896).6 The word usually refers to good things5 as opposed to bad things. Again, râ‛âh3 does not refer to moral evil, but calamities, in this verse. Likewise, the Bible commentaries indicate that the verse refers to God's judgment based upon people's sin.7

Conclusion God is not the author of evil.8 However, God does reward and punish on the basis of good and bad behavior. Therefore, God does bring judgment and calamity (either directly or through human authorities) on those who rebel.9 God will ultimately judge all people, since rebels will not be allowed in the new, perfect creation.


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Of course God created evil you mental midget, he created the whole universe with foreknowledge of cause and effect and being beyond time and space he had the capacity to foresee all that would happen. So when he created the universe he had to know evil would come to exist and as the universe and all within it is his creation then evil is also his creation.

Unless you want to argue that god is not omniscient which would destroy your whole concept of God.

And God dammit I hate myself for allowing myself to be lured by the religtards to poison this thread with lunatic superstitious BS.

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"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

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BTW folks this is a prime example of how religtards derail and hi jack threads and the reason why they're so despised.

maybe one day you folks will learn to shut the fuck about the bible for once and discuss from your own life experiences and conclusions. I feel bad for having taken the bait and turned this thread into a bible quote porn fest.
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Your kind of contributing and so is my post aha
"What you perceive to be becomes your reality."

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BTW folks this is a prime example of how religtards derail and hi jack threads and the reason why they're so despised.

maybe one day you folks will learn to shut the fuck about the bible for once and discuss from your own life experiences and conclusions. I feel bad for having taken the bait and turned this thread into a bible quote porn fest.
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Your kind of contributing and so is my post aha
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Yeah I know but it ain't my fault, I was debating on topic and then the dumb religtard began quoting bible passages and pissed me off cruise
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

-- Dixon Diaz
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BTW folks this is a prime example of how religtards derail and hi jack threads and the reason why they're so despised.

maybe one day you folks will learn to shut the fuck about the bible for once and discuss from your own life experiences and conclusions. I feel bad for having taken the bait and turned this thread into a bible quote porn fest.
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I simply agreed with Trinity that he was right about people having the knowledge of good and evil in their hearts.
No intent to derail or hijack a thread. I was just trying to give a rebuttal for your errors. The Bible should be everyone's guide for life. It is the standard for right and wrong, and life cannot be lived joyfully or successfully without it as our standard and guide.
If I "derailed" this thread, I apologize to everyone.
Just trying to contribute answers or to correct error when I see them.
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>Watch CNN
>"we need to get rid of the guns and the videos games"
>change to MSNBC
>"We have to take a look at people without the facebook and those who don't hang out with friends who stay inside all day and play video games"
>change to fox
>"Just like after 9/11 we might have to sacrifice some rights for the safety of our kids"

Holy shit.. It's happening fuck! Everyone is in on it!
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Well of course they are! It's been a very long time since the Lame Stream media was anything other than mouthpieces for TPTB.
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BTW folks this is a prime example of how religtards derail and hi jack threads and the reason why they're so despised.

maybe one day you folks will learn to shut the fuck about the bible for once and discuss from your own life experiences and conclusions. I feel bad for having taken the bait and turned this thread into a bible quote porn fest.
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I simply agreed with Trinity that he was right about people having the knowledge of good and evil in their hearts.
No intent to derail or hijack a thread. I was just trying to give a rebuttal for your errors. The Bible should be everyone's guide for life. It is the standard for right and wrong, and life cannot be lived joyfully or successfully without it as our standard and guide.
If I "derailed" this thread, I apologize to everyone.
Just trying to contribute answers or to correct error when I see them.
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The bible is bullshit, if people were guiding themselves by that self contradictory, puzzling book we would continue killing each other for thousands of years as all that confusing ridiculous book has brought is misery for humanity.

Now if you actually used your god given brain for a second you could actually arrive to better conclusions than mindlessly having "faith" on a man made book from the barbarians in the bronze age Mesopotamia.
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

-- Dixon Diaz
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yup. just like after 911 they activated the nano fibers and nano bots in everyone's blood stream to become patriots. now they have activated the shooters and they are sending the digital signals through the TV sets to activate the second amendment psyops. if you have had a vaccine of any sort in the last 12 years, do not turn on your television or you will become part of the gun ban psyops. 9-11-2001 =12-14-2012.
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BTW folks this is a prime example of how religtards derail and hi jack threads and the reason why they're so despised.

maybe one day you folks will learn to shut the fuck about the bible for once and discuss from your own life experiences and conclusions. I feel bad for having taken the bait and turned this thread into a bible quote porn fest.
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Your kind of contributing and so is my post aha
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Yeah I know but it ain't my fault, I was debating on topic and then the dumb religtard began quoting bible passages and pissed me off cruise
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Manu: your anger problem has a solution.
Why don't you check out what God says about angry people?
You will learn a lot about yourself.
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Not even amongst Christians you can come to an agreement on which version is best or which translations are correct. After millennia of embracing that book all that it has brought is division for people and even today after thousands of years of war the Abrahamic faiths are still at it.

How much will it be enough so that reasonable people discussing subjects with their own intelligence have to subjected to religious folks invading the debate with claims that we "should adopt the bible as our guide"?

Don't you get it yet? The Bible has FAILED! it has proven to be a tree that gives BAD FRUIT. move the fuck on already.

Last Edited by Manu-K on 12/17/2012 12:39 AM
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

-- Dixon Diaz
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All of the MEDIA are in on it! CNN, MSNBC, FOX, etc. Who can we trust?
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Them ole' Fandango rangers?
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yup. just like after 911 they activated the nano fibers and nano bots in everyone's blood stream to become patriots. now they have activated the shooters and they are sending the digital signals through the TV sets to activate the second amendment psyops. if you have had a vaccine of any sort in the last 12 years, do not turn on your television or you will become part of the gun ban psyops. 9-11-2001 =12-14-2012.
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Hmm.. Tell me more about the Nano bots, this interests me, I understand how TV is used through its various frequency ranges and rhythms of light. and the deeper aspects of mind control but I've always disregarded Nano bot theory's but at this point their technology is far beyond even the simple concept that you brought up.
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Not even amongst Christians you can come to an agreement on which version is best or which translations are correct. After millennia of embracing that book all that it has brought is division for people and even today after thousands of years of war the Abrahamic faiths are still at it.

How much will it be enough so that reasonable people discussing subjects with their own intelligence have to subjected to religious folks invading the debate with claims that we "should adopt the bible as our guide"?

Don't you get it yet? The Bible has FAILED! it has proven to be a tree that gives BAD FRUIT. move the fuck on already.
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You are pathetic. I do hope you repent. (repent means "change your mind"
I'm out!
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Not even amongst Christians you can come to an agreement on which version is best or which translations are correct. After millennia of embracing that book all that it has brought is division for people and even today after thousands of years of war the Abrahamic faiths are still at it.

How much will it be enough so that reasonable people discussing subjects with their own intelligence have to subjected to religious folks invading the debate with claims that we "should adopt the bible as our guide"?

Don't you get it yet? The Bible has FAILED! it has proven to be a tree that gives BAD FRUIT. move the fuck on already.
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You are pathetic. I do hope you repent. (repent means "change your mind"
I'm out!
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yeah

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"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

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yep, basic conspiracy theory 101
cant trust the media
what else is news??
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Yea we all seem to see the news as questionable, but this is much deeper. What's going on is almost too hard to grasp, the idea that everything is a lie. Literally.

Mind fucking.
Put your hands up high if you hasn't imagined. Hope that the pen strokes stronger than the cannon
Balls to the wall, Nose to the grindstone. My interrogation techniques leave your mind blown
So Place your bets lets speak to the enemy. Don't let em pretend that we seek blood. Mighty warlord wanna-be street thug a threat for a threat leaves the whole world terrified
blow for blow never settles the score
word for word it's time we clarify
We the people did not want war

So Stand up
We shall not be moved
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the news is easy to get

its the exact opposite of what is said

"Security was good at thge school" - lie

no metal detecfdtor, no resource officer


"teachers were brave"

they locvked the doors, really? i mean seems like a normal man would like thorw kids out the window and stuff

"teachers are smart and nice" - lol
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the princip[le, going for a docvtorate - her actions?

run into the hall and get shot

wow, to bad she didn;t get that doctorate, so she could run education and tell kids how to be smart

lol
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Fucking religitards ruined another thread.
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Fucking religitards ruined another thread.
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>Watch CNN
>"we need to get rid of the guns and the videos games"
>change to MSNBC
>"We have to take a look at people without the facebook and those who don't hang out with friends who stay inside all day and play video games"
>change to fox
>"Just like after 9/11 we might have to sacrifice some rights for the safety of our kids"

Holy shit.. It's happening fuck! Everyone is in on it!
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We called them "talking heads" in my time. They become trusted members of the family as they come into your home every evening to tell you the "truth."

We have been brainwashed over the many years to believe everything they say. We trust them. That is the plan. They have a kind of control over us.

It does not really matter what channel they are on...they are leading us down a programmed path where we come to a conclusion they designed for us.

They control our minds...but someone else controls their every word. They know it. They get paid well for it. It is how TPTB control all of us in the long run.

We want to belong to the winning side. So we hear the talking heads say; "Most Americans want guns off the street to insure their safety." No one asked most Americans...but we believe it. We go along with it because "most" means they are the winning team and I want to be a winner.

The general American will nod their head and become a believer..."I want to be safe...guns are killing children...we all want the killing to stop...we must stop the guns...Repeat often until convinced.

The independent thinker can't fight that my friends. The popular ideas will be inflamed against all persons with guns. Locals will arise to " defend the children." Gun owners will become the scapegoat for all crimes.

The word "evil" starts circulating. First the guns are evil...then the men who want to own guns are evil. Then like the middle ages people with guns will be "hunted" and stripped of the evil by the people.

Government will just sit and wait for it to happen. Every night the talking heads" will read the "prepared" news and tighten the noose around the throat of liberty. burnit
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"Never Let A Good Crisis Go To Waste."

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Sounding just like a neo-con.

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Of course they are in on it. Look at the commies that own them and employ them.

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