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allisaTX User ID: 25379369 United States 12/16/2012 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "I keep hearing in the news how this shooter was a loner and socially awkward as if those are the type of people to watch out for. Well there's a lot of people out there that meets that criteria such as myself and they are not killers. I can tell you that is not the root cause for people to snap. I mean I'm a loner.. I'm socially awkward but I still have a heart and I care about every sentient beings. I'm sitting here watching the special presentation from the president and just typing this and thinking about all of the innocent children who had their whole loves ahead of them and then just taken away is making myself break down in tears. So there is something else that goes on in the minds of these killers that we need to find out. We shouldn't be quick to judge those who are loners and don't socialize with others or who play video games all day long since a killer is just as likely to exist in someone who is a a very social person." " to you kind hearted loaner and hugs Last Edited by allisaTX on 12/16/2012 09:29 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25327582 Canada 12/16/2012 09:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trust in your ability to discern truth from fiction.. Quoting: ^TrInItY^ Trust in universal truth.. We all know truth inside us.. At least here the universe is free to converse with itself unfettered. The truth inside Adam made him kill. Jesus is truth. So now youare saying Jesus made him do it? WOW, What a change ! ! ! Back in the old daz, we used to say: "The Devil made him do it". Everyone's truth is different. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23024504 United States 12/16/2012 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its seems that they are relating video games with violence Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30083223 Yet people who sit on the butt and play games --ALL DAY-- can't really be much of a threat to their fellow man can they? Mean if I sit around and play modern warfare practicing killing enemy soldiers, I'm not really running around with 50 pounds of ordnance. this.... If only people wouldn't drive tanks :) wrong. those video games are structured through a binary coding syntax almost identical to human language. These images and movements actions/reactions are manifest through specified patterns. The programming codes within these games alter the patterns of your mind, aligning them more concretely with the encrypted agendas. they are designed to strip and reinscript (your mind) welcome back to the original World of WarCRAFT |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15044657 United States 12/16/2012 09:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trust in your ability to discern truth from fiction.. Quoting: ^TrInItY^ Trust in universal truth.. We all know truth inside us.. At least here the universe is free to converse with itself unfettered. Trust in your ability to discern truth from fiction.. Quoting: ^TrInItY^ Trust in universal truth.. We all know truth inside us.. At least here the universe is free to converse with itself unfettered. That's BS, there's no intrinsic knowing in most people, to get to such state of enlightenment, if indeed it exist, takes much work which most people are not willing to undertake. We need to rely on logic and reason, which most people do not possess either but at least we have more of a chance to collectively attain. This is the problem with most people. Let me guess, you're an atheist too, right? It doesn't take a state of pure enlightenment to know the difference between right and wrong, truth and untruth. If you have a problem knowing the difference between what is true and what is untrue then you are already in a state of complete denial in your life. A liar can't tell the difference between truth and lies, but someone honest, open, and connected to God can. That is the one MAIN thing God has given all of us. The divine intuition to know the truth when we see/hear/feel it. We all have the light of God in us and God knows truth. People just stuff that divine intuition because everything you have ever encountered in our society is against our better judgement. The propaganda that is constantly pumped into us from the very sources named in the OP (along with everywhere else) is specifically designed to make people question their intuition, think "everyone else is doing it" and then conform themselves right to hell. They knew better all along, but they went against themselves. Once you get that far, you won't know the difference between true and untrue, and that is when your logic fails you. To use logic you would have to consider every possible outcome and most of you aren't smart enough to do that. Not only that, but to use logic, you have to know truth. Therefore, your logic has already failed you if you think it's superior to truth. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23024504 United States 12/16/2012 09:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | all 24-hour news channels should be banned. the way they hype these incidents probably just encourages more people to do them. the perp becomes an instant "star" on the news for hours at a time and for days and days after the incident. Quoting: davvi sickening. that's how it works...Humans imitate...how else would they learn to speak a language? observing and imitating...MIMICRY...and the empire rules through this entertainment...torture. 'member when we'd all rush to timesquare to watch a good lynchin'? burn a witch at the stake? the original entertainment of empire. of course people are going to emulate this... |
Dr Einstein User ID: 4365896 United States 12/16/2012 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you can always tell when a story starts petering out: you morons start chatting with eachother. |
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Manu-Koelbren User ID: 1312616 Spain 12/16/2012 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trust in your ability to discern truth from fiction.. Quoting: ^TrInItY^ Trust in universal truth.. We all know truth inside us.. At least here the universe is free to converse with itself unfettered. Trust in your ability to discern truth from fiction.. Quoting: ^TrInItY^ Trust in universal truth.. We all know truth inside us.. At least here the universe is free to converse with itself unfettered. That's BS, there's no intrinsic knowing in most people, to get to such state of enlightenment, if indeed it exist, takes much work which most people are not willing to undertake. We need to rely on logic and reason, which most people do not possess either but at least we have more of a chance to collectively attain. This is the problem with most people. Let me guess, you're an atheist too, right? It doesn't take a state of pure enlightenment to know the difference between right and wrong, truth and untruth. If you have a problem knowing the difference between what is true and what is untrue then you are already in a state of complete denial in your life. A liar can't tell the difference between truth and lies, but someone honest, open, and connected to God can. That is the one MAIN thing God has given all of us. The divine intuition to know the truth when we see/hear/feel it. We all have the light of God in us and God knows truth. People just stuff that divine intuition because everything you have ever encountered in our society is against our better judgement. The propaganda that is constantly pumped into us from the very sources named in the OP (along with everywhere else) is specifically designed to make people question their intuition, think "everyone else is doing it" and then conform themselves right to hell. They knew better all along, but they went against themselves. Once you get that far, you won't know the difference between true and untrue, and that is when your logic fails you. To use logic you would have to consider every possible outcome and most of you aren't smart enough to do that. Not only that, but to use logic, you have to know truth. Therefore, your logic has already failed you if you think it's superior to truth. Your argument implies that if people were left outside of the influence of what you consider evil in society they would all naturally reach the same idea of morality based on a "god given" intuition, and that is simply illogical on two counts. First you can't ever argue that people can be fully outside of the influence of evil at any point, and secondly cultures that existed in isolation for thousands of years reached completely different concepts of ethics and morals. Thus your "god given" intuition factor becomes a non factor in the greater equation as there's no way to provide any evidence regarding its nature or that it has ever influenced humanity by its own volition in any widespread manner. It would become a factor if you could prove that this intuition you speak about can defeat the undesirable influences that society creates, but as according to your own argumentation it clearly succumbs to them then how can it serve for any purpose? Clearly even if it existed it is not the solution for our problems. If you argue that this intuition becomes widespread only within a perfect society then it might as well not exist as a perfect society has never been found, and if a perfect society would exist what purpose would that intuition serve anyway? Also you're argument about logic is incongruent. Logic is the way to reach truth, without logic whatever truth you may think you have found must rely upon faith and the arguments of faith can't ever be proven. Last Edited by Manu-K on 12/16/2012 10:19 PM Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
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javierruizleon User ID: 26075244 United States 12/16/2012 10:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Before Jesus gave the signs of the endtimes He said: "And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you." Remember His words when you hear or watch the media. Genesis-Acts,Hebrews-Revelation to, you know who Romans-Philemon to the Church Mid-Acts Pauline Dispensational Right Division |
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Sledster User ID: 2463263 United States 12/16/2012 10:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trust in your ability to discern truth from fiction.. Quoting: ^TrInItY^ Trust in universal truth.. We all know truth inside us.. At least here the universe is free to converse with itself unfettered. Trust in your ability to discern truth from fiction.. Quoting: ^TrInItY^ Trust in universal truth.. We all know truth inside us.. At least here the universe is free to converse with itself unfettered. That's BS, there's no intrinsic knowing in most people, to get to such state of enlightenment, if indeed it exist, takes much work which most people are not willing to undertake. We need to rely on logic and reason, which most people do not possess either but at least we have more of a chance to collectively attain. ok well at least they can have a little hope? lol everyone HAS an instinctive connection to all that is... EVERYONE HAS INTUITION most people just ignore it the trick is to bring it from a background whisper to the forefront without going insane in the process ;) Trin, You have no idea how close to reality that you are with this. There's only a thin line, once crossed there is no going back. Sledster I'm tired of waiting, somebody push the damn button already! Keep your 72 virgins, give me one old biker chick. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27745421 United States 12/16/2012 10:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So they have this guy on who just recently wrote a big article for Mother Jones about mass shootings. Interesting guy. They interview him for a while, then he starts saying "One of the really interesting things we found is the correlations with psychiatric care." NPR interviewer says "Thank you for joining us this evening blabla..." They then played about 20-30 seconds of bumper music and a little generic NPR commercial. Dude cut him right off before he could go into any detail. It was obvious he was scheduled to have at least another minute or so. Startling when you understand what's happening. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28621700 United States 12/16/2012 10:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have given this alot of thought. They continue to lie to make the sane look insane or the logical illogical. They have been lying for so long you begin to ask yourself if maybe you are indeed wrong. They are trying to change the thinking of the logical. I am convinced of it ! |
32nd Degree User ID: 11062783 United States 12/16/2012 10:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "They interview him for a while, then he starts saying "One of the really interesting things we found is the correlations with psychiatric care." NPR interviewer says "Thank you for joining us this evening blabla..." They then played about 20-30 seconds of bumper music and a little generic NPR commercial. "Dude cut him right off before he could go into any detail. It was obvious he was scheduled to have at least another minute or so. "Startling when you understand what's happening." Or maybe NPR just ran out of time. Not everyone has unlimited space to blather on. Good thing, too. Last Edited by 32nd Degree on 12/16/2012 10:37 PM 32nd Degree |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13390701 United States 12/16/2012 10:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trust in your ability to discern truth from fiction.. Quoting: ^TrInItY^ Trust in universal truth.. We all know truth inside us.. At least here the universe is free to converse with itself unfettered. Trust in your ability to discern truth from fiction.. Quoting: ^TrInItY^ Trust in universal truth.. We all know truth inside us.. At least here the universe is free to converse with itself unfettered. That's BS, there's no intrinsic knowing in most people, to get to such state of enlightenment, if indeed it exist, takes much work which most people are not willing to undertake. We need to rely on logic and reason, which most people do not possess either but at least we have more of a chance to collectively attain. This is the problem with most people. Let me guess, you're an atheist too, right? It doesn't take a state of pure enlightenment to know the difference between right and wrong, truth and untruth. If you have a problem knowing the difference between what is true and what is untrue then you are already in a state of complete denial in your life. A liar can't tell the difference between truth and lies, but someone honest, open, and connected to God can. That is the one MAIN thing God has given all of us. The divine intuition to know the truth when we see/hear/feel it. We all have the light of God in us and God knows truth. People just stuff that divine intuition because everything you have ever encountered in our society is against our better judgement. The propaganda that is constantly pumped into us from the very sources named in the OP (along with everywhere else) is specifically designed to make people question their intuition, think "everyone else is doing it" and then conform themselves right to hell. They knew better all along, but they went against themselves. Once you get that far, you won't know the difference between true and untrue, and that is when your logic fails you. To use logic you would have to consider every possible outcome and most of you aren't smart enough to do that. Not only that, but to use logic, you have to know truth. Therefore, your logic has already failed you if you think it's superior to truth. Your argument implies that if people were left outside of the influence of what you consider evil in society they would all naturally reach the same idea of morality based on a "god given" intuition, and that is simply illogical on two counts. First you can't ever argue that people can be fully outside of the influence of evil at any point, and secondly cultures that existed in isolation for thousands of years reached completely different concepts of ethics and morals. Thus your "god given" intuition factor becomes a non factor in the greater equation as there's no way to provide any evidence regarding its nature or that it has ever influenced humanity by its own volition in any widespread manner. It would become a factor if you could prove that this intuition you speak about can defeat the undesirable influences that society creates, but as according to your own argumentation it clearly succumbs to them then how can it serve for any purpose? Clearly even if it existed it is not the solution for our problems. If you argue that this intuition becomes widespread only within a perfect society then it might as well not exist as a perfect society has never been found, and if a perfect society would exist what purpose would that intuition serve anyway? Also you're argument about logic is incongruent. Logic is the way to reach truth, without logic whatever truth you may think you have found must rely upon faith and the arguments of faith can't ever be proven. Your premise that " 'god given' intuition is illogical" is in error, because, "....even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as Godk or give thanks; but THEY BECAME FUTILE IN THEIR SPECULATIONS, AND THEIR FOOLISH HEART WAS DARKENED. PROFESSING TO BE WISE THEY BECAME FOOLS. AND EXCHANGED THE GLORY OF THE INCORRUPTIBLE GOD FOR AN IMAGE IN THE FORM OF CORRUPTIBLE MAN..... (they then made idols to worship) Romans 1:21-23 The Bible gives us TRUTH. The truth here states that God has put the knowledge of good and evil in the heart of men. They know God's truth, His righteousness by instinct, because HE HAS PLACED IT IN THEIR HEARTS. Cultures have arrived at a different "truth" as you state, but because they verse 25 they deliberately chose to believe lies. "They exchanged the truth of God for a lie." Yes, people deviate from God's standards and form their own defective compasses for right and wrong. That is because, as illustrated in the Bible and through history over and over and over again, "Every man did what was right in his own eyes." When they do that, and exchange God's truth for a lie, God gives them over to their lusts and impurity and unrighteousness. The answers are here in the Book of Truth, just as bright as day. Thoughtfully read the first chapter of Romans. God explains this standard of righteousness and how men have strayed from it, and the consequences. Sin is enslaving and increasingly evil; the solution is through salvation in Jesus Christ! It's the only solution. |
allisaTX User ID: 25379369 United States 12/16/2012 10:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have given this alot of thought. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28621700 They continue to lie to make the sane look insane or the logical illogical. They have been lying for so long you begin to ask yourself if maybe you are indeed wrong. They are trying to change the thinking of the logical. I am convinced of it ! ...until we're so tired and half dead we will hopefully just give in, and become complacent sane quiet, divorced from our family conspiracy tards....don't let this become your fate. Last Edited by allisaTX on 12/16/2012 10:54 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18104061 United Kingdom 12/16/2012 10:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | >Watch CNN Quoting: KILL YOUR TV! 18527475 >"we need to get rid of the guns and the videos games" >change to MSNBC >"We have to take a look at people without the facebook and those who don't hang out with friends who stay inside all day and play video games" >change to fox >"Just like after 9/11 we might have to sacrifice some rights for the safety of our kids" Holy shit.. It's happening fuck! Everyone is in on it! |
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RedDawnPost User ID: 15731848 United States 12/16/2012 10:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The modern day Medes! With their daily dose of magick potion. "To harm another, is to harm ones self." ~Socrates "Love your brother like your soul, guard him like the pupil of your eye." Alternative News: [link to www.reddawnpost.com] |
Manu-Koelbren User ID: 1312616 Spain 12/16/2012 10:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Manu-Koelbren ... That's BS, there's no intrinsic knowing in most people, to get to such state of enlightenment, if indeed it exist, takes much work which most people are not willing to undertake. We need to rely on logic and reason, which most people do not possess either but at least we have more of a chance to collectively attain. This is the problem with most people. Let me guess, you're an atheist too, right? It doesn't take a state of pure enlightenment to know the difference between right and wrong, truth and untruth. If you have a problem knowing the difference between what is true and what is untrue then you are already in a state of complete denial in your life. A liar can't tell the difference between truth and lies, but someone honest, open, and connected to God can. That is the one MAIN thing God has given all of us. The divine intuition to know the truth when we see/hear/feel it. We all have the light of God in us and God knows truth. People just stuff that divine intuition because everything you have ever encountered in our society is against our better judgement. The propaganda that is constantly pumped into us from the very sources named in the OP (along with everywhere else) is specifically designed to make people question their intuition, think "everyone else is doing it" and then conform themselves right to hell. They knew better all along, but they went against themselves. Once you get that far, you won't know the difference between true and untrue, and that is when your logic fails you. To use logic you would have to consider every possible outcome and most of you aren't smart enough to do that. Not only that, but to use logic, you have to know truth. Therefore, your logic has already failed you if you think it's superior to truth. Your argument implies that if people were left outside of the influence of what you consider evil in society they would all naturally reach the same idea of morality based on a "god given" intuition, and that is simply illogical on two counts. First you can't ever argue that people can be fully outside of the influence of evil at any point, and secondly cultures that existed in isolation for thousands of years reached completely different concepts of ethics and morals. Thus your "god given" intuition factor becomes a non factor in the greater equation as there's no way to provide any evidence regarding its nature or that it has ever influenced humanity by its own volition in any widespread manner. It would become a factor if you could prove that this intuition you speak about can defeat the undesirable influences that society creates, but as according to your own argumentation it clearly succumbs to them then how can it serve for any purpose? Clearly even if it existed it is not the solution for our problems. If you argue that this intuition becomes widespread only within a perfect society then it might as well not exist as a perfect society has never been found, and if a perfect society would exist what purpose would that intuition serve anyway? Also you're argument about logic is incongruent. Logic is the way to reach truth, without logic whatever truth you may think you have found must rely upon faith and the arguments of faith can't ever be proven. Your premise that " 'god given' intuition is illogical" is in error, because, "....even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as Godk or give thanks; but THEY BECAME FUTILE IN THEIR SPECULATIONS, AND THEIR FOOLISH HEART WAS DARKENED. PROFESSING TO BE WISE THEY BECAME FOOLS. AND EXCHANGED THE GLORY OF THE INCORRUPTIBLE GOD FOR AN IMAGE IN THE FORM OF CORRUPTIBLE MAN..... (they then made idols to worship) Romans 1:21-23 The Bible gives us TRUTH. The truth here states that God has put the knowledge of good and evil in the heart of men. They know God's truth, His righteousness by instinct, because HE HAS PLACED IT IN THEIR HEARTS. Cultures have arrived at a different "truth" as you state, but because they verse 25 they deliberately chose to believe lies. "They exchanged the truth of God for a lie." Yes, people deviate from God's standards and form their own defective compasses for right and wrong. That is because, as illustrated in the Bible and through history over and over and over again, "Every man did what was right in his own eyes." When they do that, and exchange God's truth for a lie, God gives them over to their lusts and impurity and unrighteousness. The answers are here in the Book of Truth, just as bright as day. Thoughtfully read the first chapter of Romans. God explains this standard of righteousness and how men have strayed from it, and the consequences. Sin is enslaving and increasingly evil; the solution is through salvation in Jesus Christ! It's the only solution. That's the point you moran, if people possessed an inner god given intuition which by nature should grant them a moral compass, then they wouldn't need the bible, and the biblical tenets would have been accomplished through this inner truth springing out of all peoples of the world by its own volition, instead of through a book written in only one region by one culture at one determinate time frame. You already had to quote the damned bible because you have no mind of your own, you lame drone. Last Edited by Manu-K on 12/16/2012 10:54 PM Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15044657 United States 12/16/2012 11:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Manu-Koelbren ... That's BS, there's no intrinsic knowing in most people, to get to such state of enlightenment, if indeed it exist, takes much work which most people are not willing to undertake. We need to rely on logic and reason, which most people do not possess either but at least we have more of a chance to collectively attain. This is the problem with most people. Let me guess, you're an atheist too, right? It doesn't take a state of pure enlightenment to know the difference between right and wrong, truth and untruth. If you have a problem knowing the difference between what is true and what is untrue then you are already in a state of complete denial in your life. A liar can't tell the difference between truth and lies, but someone honest, open, and connected to God can. That is the one MAIN thing God has given all of us. The divine intuition to know the truth when we see/hear/feel it. We all have the light of God in us and God knows truth. People just stuff that divine intuition because everything you have ever encountered in our society is against our better judgement. The propaganda that is constantly pumped into us from the very sources named in the OP (along with everywhere else) is specifically designed to make people question their intuition, think "everyone else is doing it" and then conform themselves right to hell. They knew better all along, but they went against themselves. Once you get that far, you won't know the difference between true and untrue, and that is when your logic fails you. To use logic you would have to consider every possible outcome and most of you aren't smart enough to do that. Not only that, but to use logic, you have to know truth. Therefore, your logic has already failed you if you think it's superior to truth. Your argument implies that if people were left outside of the influence of what you consider evil in society they would all naturally reach the same idea of morality based on a "god given" intuition, and that is simply illogical on two counts. First you can't ever argue that people can be fully outside of the influence of evil at any point, and secondly cultures that existed in isolation for thousands of years reached completely different concepts of ethics and morals. Thus your "god given" intuition factor becomes a non factor in the greater equation as there's no way to provide any evidence regarding its nature or that it has ever influenced humanity by its own volition in any widespread manner. It would become a factor if you could prove that this intuition you speak about can defeat the undesirable influences that society creates, but as according to your own argumentation it clearly succumbs to them then how can it serve for any purpose? Clearly even if it existed it is not the solution for our problems. If you argue that this intuition becomes widespread only within a perfect society then it might as well not exist as a perfect society has never been found, and if a perfect society would exist what purpose would that intuition serve anyway? Also you're argument about logic is incongruent. Logic is the way to reach truth, without logic whatever truth you may think you have found must rely upon faith and the arguments of faith can't ever be proven. Your premise that " 'god given' intuition is illogical" is in error, because, "....even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as Godk or give thanks; but THEY BECAME FUTILE IN THEIR SPECULATIONS, AND THEIR FOOLISH HEART WAS DARKENED. PROFESSING TO BE WISE THEY BECAME FOOLS. AND EXCHANGED THE GLORY OF THE INCORRUPTIBLE GOD FOR AN IMAGE IN THE FORM OF CORRUPTIBLE MAN..... (they then made idols to worship) Romans 1:21-23 The Bible gives us TRUTH. The truth here states that God has put the knowledge of good and evil in the heart of men. They know God's truth, His righteousness by instinct, because HE HAS PLACED IT IN THEIR HEARTS. Cultures have arrived at a different "truth" as you state, but because they verse 25 they deliberately chose to believe lies. "They exchanged the truth of God for a lie." Yes, people deviate from God's standards and form their own defective compasses for right and wrong. That is because, as illustrated in the Bible and through history over and over and over again, "Every man did what was right in his own eyes." When they do that, and exchange God's truth for a lie, God gives them over to their lusts and impurity and unrighteousness. The answers are here in the Book of Truth, just as bright as day. Thoughtfully read the first chapter of Romans. God explains this standard of righteousness and how men have strayed from it, and the consequences. Sin is enslaving and increasingly evil; the solution is through salvation in Jesus Christ! It's the only solution. Yes yes yes, that's exactly the right scripture, thank you for knowing and understanding. We've been talking about that scripture for days, it's no coincidence that you posted that here. It's amazing that someone out there can read it and know what it means. Truth IS universal. God has given us all the same truth, and people deviate from it over and over and over again. It's proof of the truth right there that you read it and understood it to mean the exact same thing that I understand it to mean, when there are people out there that can read that exact same thing and the truth, to them, sounds like a foreign language. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 13390701 United States 12/16/2012 11:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15044657 This is the problem with most people. Let me guess, you're an atheist too, right? It doesn't take a state of pure enlightenment to know the difference between right and wrong, truth and untruth. If you have a problem knowing the difference between what is true and what is untrue then you are already in a state of complete denial in your life. A liar can't tell the difference between truth and lies, but someone honest, open, and connected to God can. That is the one MAIN thing God has given all of us. The divine intuition to know the truth when we see/hear/feel it. We all have the light of God in us and God knows truth. People just stuff that divine intuition because everything you have ever encountered in our society is against our better judgement. The propaganda that is constantly pumped into us from the very sources named in the OP (along with everywhere else) is specifically designed to make people question their intuition, think "everyone else is doing it" and then conform themselves right to hell. They knew better all along, but they went against themselves. Once you get that far, you won't know the difference between true and untrue, and that is when your logic fails you. To use logic you would have to consider every possible outcome and most of you aren't smart enough to do that. Not only that, but to use logic, you have to know truth. Therefore, your logic has already failed you if you think it's superior to truth. Your argument implies that if people were left outside of the influence of what you consider evil in society they would all naturally reach the same idea of morality based on a "god given" intuition, and that is simply illogical on two counts. First you can't ever argue that people can be fully outside of the influence of evil at any point, and secondly cultures that existed in isolation for thousands of years reached completely different concepts of ethics and morals. Thus your "god given" intuition factor becomes a non factor in the greater equation as there's no way to provide any evidence regarding its nature or that it has ever influenced humanity by its own volition in any widespread manner. It would become a factor if you could prove that this intuition you speak about can defeat the undesirable influences that society creates, but as according to your own argumentation it clearly succumbs to them then how can it serve for any purpose? Clearly even if it existed it is not the solution for our problems. If you argue that this intuition becomes widespread only within a perfect society then it might as well not exist as a perfect society has never been found, and if a perfect society would exist what purpose would that intuition serve anyway? Also you're argument about logic is incongruent. Logic is the way to reach truth, without logic whatever truth you may think you have found must rely upon faith and the arguments of faith can't ever be proven. Your premise that " 'god given' intuition is illogical" is in error, because, "....even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as Godk or give thanks; but THEY BECAME FUTILE IN THEIR SPECULATIONS, AND THEIR FOOLISH HEART WAS DARKENED. PROFESSING TO BE WISE THEY BECAME FOOLS. AND EXCHANGED THE GLORY OF THE INCORRUPTIBLE GOD FOR AN IMAGE IN THE FORM OF CORRUPTIBLE MAN..... (they then made idols to worship) Romans 1:21-23 The Bible gives us TRUTH. The truth here states that God has put the knowledge of good and evil in the heart of men. They know God's truth, His righteousness by instinct, because HE HAS PLACED IT IN THEIR HEARTS. Cultures have arrived at a different "truth" as you state, but because they verse 25 they deliberately chose to believe lies. "They exchanged the truth of God for a lie." Yes, people deviate from God's standards and form their own defective compasses for right and wrong. That is because, as illustrated in the Bible and through history over and over and over again, "Every man did what was right in his own eyes." When they do that, and exchange God's truth for a lie, God gives them over to their lusts and impurity and unrighteousness. The answers are here in the Book of Truth, just as bright as day. Thoughtfully read the first chapter of Romans. God explains this standard of righteousness and how men have strayed from it, and the consequences. Sin is enslaving and increasingly evil; the solution is through salvation in Jesus Christ! It's the only solution. That's the point you moran, if people possessed an inner god given intuition which by nature should grant them a moral compass, then they wouldn't need the bible, and the biblical tenets would have been accomplished through this inner truth springing out of all peoples of the world by its own volition, instead of through a book written in only one region by one culture at one determinate time frame. You already had to quote the damned bible because you have no mind of your own, you lame drone. God 's initial dispensation for men was conscience. He has put the knowledge in their hearts. He also placed knowledge of Him in all of nature (creation). Now He has provided us with the Scriptures, which all people in this 21st century have available to them. No man at any time since the world began has an excuse. God states "His eternal power and divine nature have been clealy seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse." No one has an excuse for not know God and His righteousness. No one. Not you, not me, not the shooters, not the politicians.....no one. |
Manu-Koelbren User ID: 1312616 Spain 12/16/2012 11:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Manu-Koelbren Your argument implies that if people were left outside of the influence of what you consider evil in society they would all naturally reach the same idea of morality based on a "god given" intuition, and that is simply illogical on two counts. First you can't ever argue that people can be fully outside of the influence of evil at any point, and secondly cultures that existed in isolation for thousands of years reached completely different concepts of ethics and morals. Thus your "god given" intuition factor becomes a non factor in the greater equation as there's no way to provide any evidence regarding its nature or that it has ever influenced humanity by its own volition in any widespread manner. It would become a factor if you could prove that this intuition you speak about can defeat the undesirable influences that society creates, but as according to your own argumentation it clearly succumbs to them then how can it serve for any purpose? Clearly even if it existed it is not the solution for our problems. If you argue that this intuition becomes widespread only within a perfect society then it might as well not exist as a perfect society has never been found, and if a perfect society would exist what purpose would that intuition serve anyway? Also you're argument about logic is incongruent. Logic is the way to reach truth, without logic whatever truth you may think you have found must rely upon faith and the arguments of faith can't ever be proven. Your premise that " 'god given' intuition is illogical" is in error, because, "....even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as Godk or give thanks; but THEY BECAME FUTILE IN THEIR SPECULATIONS, AND THEIR FOOLISH HEART WAS DARKENED. PROFESSING TO BE WISE THEY BECAME FOOLS. AND EXCHANGED THE GLORY OF THE INCORRUPTIBLE GOD FOR AN IMAGE IN THE FORM OF CORRUPTIBLE MAN..... (they then made idols to worship) Romans 1:21-23 The Bible gives us TRUTH. The truth here states that God has put the knowledge of good and evil in the heart of men. They know God's truth, His righteousness by instinct, because HE HAS PLACED IT IN THEIR HEARTS. Cultures have arrived at a different "truth" as you state, but because they verse 25 they deliberately chose to believe lies. "They exchanged the truth of God for a lie." Yes, people deviate from God's standards and form their own defective compasses for right and wrong. That is because, as illustrated in the Bible and through history over and over and over again, "Every man did what was right in his own eyes." When they do that, and exchange God's truth for a lie, God gives them over to their lusts and impurity and unrighteousness. The answers are here in the Book of Truth, just as bright as day. Thoughtfully read the first chapter of Romans. God explains this standard of righteousness and how men have strayed from it, and the consequences. Sin is enslaving and increasingly evil; the solution is through salvation in Jesus Christ! It's the only solution. That's the point you moran, if people possessed an inner god given intuition which by nature should grant them a moral compass, then they wouldn't need the bible, and the biblical tenets would have been accomplished through this inner truth springing out of all peoples of the world by its own volition, instead of through a book written in only one region by one culture at one determinate time frame. You already had to quote the damned bible because you have no mind of your own, you lame drone. God 's initial dispensation for men was conscience. He has put the knowledge in their hearts. He also placed knowledge of Him in all of nature (creation). Now He has provided us with the Scriptures, which all people in this 21st century have available to them. No man at any time since the world began has an excuse. God states "His eternal power and divine nature have been clealy seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse." No one has an excuse for not know God and His righteousness. No one. Not you, not me, not the shooters, not the politicians.....no one. Well your Bible also says THE LORD creates EVIL, did you know that? Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
canadian farmer User ID: 4290360 Canada 12/16/2012 11:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | all 24-hour news channels should be banned. the way they hype these incidents probably just encourages more people to do them. the perp becomes an instant "star" on the news for hours at a time and for days and days after the incident. Quoting: davvi sickening. Just what we need, another ban retard opening up his mouth! Want to end these channels? Don't watch them. I don't and haven't watched MSM in many years. I don't need a ban from some tool too stupid to turn the fucking thing off to know not to watch it. What is next on your tool ban list? GLP? It's called free market, Mr. wave my American flag, and if people don't provide market for it, it fails. Ban it? What a fucking hypocrite! Keep waving your flag while you spout totalitarian nonsense. Last Edited by canadian farmer on 12/16/2012 11:24 PM I'd rather die on my feet than "live" on my knees. |