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Newtown Elementary School Massacre...Thinking the Unthinkable

 
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Newtown Elementary School Massacre...Thinking the Unthinkable
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Thinking the Unthinkable

In the wake of another horrific national tragedy, it’s easy to talk about guns. But it’s time to talk about mental illness.

A few weeks ago, Michael pulled a knife and threatened to kill me and then himself after I asked him to return his overdue library books. His 7 and 9 year old siblings knew the safety plan—they ran to the car and locked the doors before I even asked them to. I managed to get the knife from Michael, then methodically collected all the sharp objects in the house into a single Tupperware container that now travels with me. Through it all, he continued to scream insults at me and threaten to kill or hurt me.

That conflict ended with three burly police officers and a paramedic wrestling my son onto a gurney for an expensive ambulance ride to the local emergency room. The mental hospital didn’t have any beds that day, and Michael calmed down nicely in the ER, so they sent us home with a prescription for Zyprexa and a follow-up visit with a local pediatric psychiatrist.
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Thinking the Unthinkable

In the wake of another horrific national tragedy, it’s easy to talk about guns. But it’s time to talk about mental illness.

A few weeks ago, Michael pulled a knife and threatened to kill me and then himself after I asked him to return his overdue library books. His 7 and 9 year old siblings knew the safety plan—they ran to the car and locked the doors before I even asked them to. I managed to get the knife from Michael, then methodically collected all the sharp objects in the house into a single Tupperware container that now travels with me. Through it all, he continued to scream insults at me and threaten to kill or hurt me.

That conflict ended with three burly police officers and a paramedic wrestling my son onto a gurney for an expensive ambulance ride to the local emergency room. The mental hospital didn’t have any beds that day, and Michael calmed down nicely in the ER, so they sent us home with a prescription for Zyprexa and a follow-up visit with a local pediatric psychiatrist.
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The new normal...
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Thinking the Unthinkable

In the wake of another horrific national tragedy, it’s easy to talk about guns. But it’s time to talk about mental illness.

A few weeks ago, Michael pulled a knife and threatened to kill me and then himself after I asked him to return his overdue library books. His 7 and 9 year old siblings knew the safety plan—they ran to the car and locked the doors before I even asked them to. I managed to get the knife from Michael, then methodically collected all the sharp objects in the house into a single Tupperware container that now travels with me. Through it all, he continued to scream insults at me and threaten to kill or hurt me.

That conflict ended with three burly police officers and a paramedic wrestling my son onto a gurney for an expensive ambulance ride to the local emergency room. The mental hospital didn’t have any beds that day, and Michael calmed down nicely in the ER, so they sent us home with a prescription for Zyprexa and a follow-up visit with a local pediatric psychiatrist.
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No guns in the house, but all the kid has to do is buy another knife, kill the mother in her sleep with it, and then take off with her tupperware container full of sharp objects and kill the rest of the family. How can she consider herself and children safe living with someone like that? Ticking time bomb.
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Re: Newtown Elementary School Massacre...Thinking the Unthinkable
I'm sorry, but the mother in this essay is certifiable too.
Who would put her son on a school bus after he has threatened
her with a knife ? Is she that careless for the safety of the other
kids on the bus, the school bus driver, and other motorists on the road ?

I also really dislike her introduction with the whole drama issue about the
'navy blue' pants when they were supposed to be 'black'. BFD. Who is going
to care, other than the 'good mother' who wants her son to 'conform' ?

The kid may not even be able to visually distinguish between navy blue and
black, they look very similar under some lighting conditions. And, unless you
are singing in a concert choir performance, why should it matter ? (For the
record, i have seen university students wear navy blue to 'black dress' per-
formances and it's really not very visible even then).

The mother sounds like a control freak to me. Not saying that her son does
not have very serious issues -- i'm sure he does. But I witnessed my sister
turn her kids into classic cases of 'Oppositional Defiance Disorder' because
of her -- pardon me -- Crappy and Controlling Parenting Style, all couched
in the same terms of 'affable, agreeable' language which this mother says she uses.

Let me clue you in -- kids know instantly when an 'affable' parent is faking it.
Much better to actually let them know you are Seriously Pissed Off.

As my mother used to say, "It can be very effective to pretend to lose your
temper, but it's even more effective -- when necessary -- to actually lose it."

Our current culture has made parents scared to death of losing their tempers
with their kids. My mom never physically punished us, but we knew we were
in Big Trouble when she lost her temper.
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I'm sorry, but the mother in this essay is certifiable too.
Who would put her son on a school bus after he has threatened
her with a knife ? Is she that careless for the safety of the other
kids on the bus, the school bus driver, and other motorists on the road ?

I also really dislike her introduction with the whole drama issue about the
'navy blue' pants when they were supposed to be 'black'. BFD. Who is going
to care, other than the 'good mother' who wants her son to 'conform' ?

The kid may not even be able to visually distinguish between navy blue and
black, they look very similar under some lighting conditions. And, unless you
are singing in a concert choir performance, why should it matter ? (For the
record, i have seen university students wear navy blue to 'black dress' per-
formances and it's really not very visible even then).

The mother sounds like a control freak to me. Not saying that her son does
not have very serious issues -- i'm sure he does. But I witnessed my sister
turn her kids into classic cases of 'Oppositional Defiance Disorder' because
of her -- pardon me -- Crappy and Controlling Parenting Style, all couched
in the same terms of 'affable, agreeable' language which this mother says she uses.

Let me clue you in -- kids know instantly when an 'affable' parent is faking it.
Much better to actually let them know you are Seriously Pissed Off.

As my mother used to say, "It can be very effective to pretend to lose your
temper, but it's even more effective -- when necessary -- to actually lose it."

Our current culture has made parents scared to death of losing their tempers
with their kids. My mom never physically punished us, but we knew we were
in Big Trouble when she lost her temper.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20883927

I've worked with these kids. Sorry, but you don't have any idea what you're talking about.
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Re: Newtown Elementary School Massacre...Thinking the Unthinkable
Do they never think that some mental illnesses may in fact be a form of demon possession?

I know of someone who was/is mentally ill and is on medication. This individual threatened to kill people in the family, at one time saying that other people (he was the only one who could see these other people) are the ones that told him to do the killing.

Years down the road, a lady who knew this guy had some church people over (I'm not sure what denomination, it may have been the Assembly of God church). Anyway, they noticed this guy walking down the street and the church people said just by looking at him that the guy had a demon. This lady friend of mine said that she knew him and he was probably stopping by to visit. They then asked this guy if they would mind if he prayed for him and he never objected.

Did the prayers help? I can't say for sure, but I do know that now he is happily married and his doctors tell him he no longer needs medication. He is still on the medication, afraid his illness will return if he quits taking it, but has been declared healed by his medical doctors.

Just something to think about.

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