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I agree with the President - time to take steps to protect the children

 
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What does need have to do with the 2nd amendment?
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americans need extra powerful automatic weapons because they aren't much good with

guns
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We should be able to own any gun we choose. It is especially. Important to be able to own a defencive weapon equal in power to those local police have to give people a chance at defending themselves incase the government goes crazy, well then they already are.

People shouldnt fear the government it should be the other way around.

The problem isnt guns, its parenting from a young age.

Guns will never be banned. The moment a all out gun ban is announced war will happen between citizens and gov.

They cant ban handguns, handguns and shotguns are superior home def guns. They cant ban rifles because hunting.

Anyhow, take away guns and then you have mass killings with IEDs, crossbows, machetes, you name it. If a fucked up crazy person wants to kill he will find a way, gun or no gun.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17793849


I can order a AK-47 style military weapon with a 50 round clip. Why do
I need that?
 Quoting: Ice


So you don't have to reload so often you derp!
Fuck Yea!
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OP - who are you and what have you done with the real "Ice" ??
I AM THAT I AM IN ALL THAT YOU ARE, IN YOU I LIVE AND MOVE AND HAVE MY BEING EVERMORE
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So called assault rifles are only good for warfare. They have no use in a subdued society. Assault rifles are only useful in the hands of free men and women willing to confront evil and tyranny.

OP, you sir have no use for an assault rifle.
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Seriously?

So guns should only be used for hunting?

Where does the Constitution mention hunting?
 Quoting: Tuko


You need a 50 round clip ak-47 semi for what?
 Quoting: Ice


Why not? That's my right as an American. Sounds to me like you need to move to some little third world shithole to appreciate what you had here.
 Quoting: Hooch 14033322

It's my right not to agree with you

I will fight to take that right from you.

I would like to see no semi autos and no clips
larger than a 5 round load.
 Quoting: Ice


I would like to see blacks not make up 70% of the crime rate but wish in one hand, shit in the other, see which one fills up first buddy
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So called assault rifles are only good for warfare. They have no use in a subdued society. Assault rifles are only useful in the hands of free men and women willing to confront evil and tyranny.

OP, you sir have no use for an assault rifle.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29856998


Like I said

You sir are out of control
You need to figure it out !
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Re: I agree with the President - time to take steps to protect the children
So called assault rifles are only good for warfare. They have no use in a subdued society. Assault rifles are only useful in the hands of free men and women willing to confront evil and tyranny.

OP, you sir have no use for an assault rifle.
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clappa
Fuck Yea!
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To OP

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To OP

bskitty
 Quoting: NightWisp


No games

As you can see you guys want all the guys you can buy and all guns no limits


Doesn't add up with who we are as a people in 2012
You need to figure it out !
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after all these years, Ice drank the koolaid... shaking head
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Re: I agree with the President - time to take steps to protect the children
Change gun laws to get the stupid out of what
is now going on.

Arm guard at all schools

Teachers with guns

In college allow carry laws

Pass easy carry laws for the good folk

Get ride of none hunting type guns for good

of all
 Quoting: Ice


Seriously?

So guns should only be used for hunting?

Where does the Constitution mention hunting?
 Quoting: Tuko


You need a 50 round clip ak-47 semi for what?
 Quoting: Ice


that really wouldn't be any of your goddamn business now, would it?
Liberal Logic - Demanding that the government stay out of their bedrooms while insisting on taxpayer funded birth control.
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after all these years, Ice drank the koolaid... shaking head
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30100802


Not at all

Not at all


Limits and balance. That's all
You need to figure it out !
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Seriously? Ice is the same fucking christian nut who thought the world was coming to an end because Harold Camping said so...5absflag
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People seem to forget, the founding fathers PUT the 2nd Amendment in the consitution to ensure people could protect the,selves not only from common enemy, but from tje GOVERNMENT itself...why do you think the government pushes gun control so much?
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People seem to forget, the founding fathers PUT the 2nd Amendment in the consitution to ensure people could protect the,selves not only from common enemy, but from tje GOVERNMENT itself...why do you think the government pushes gun control so much?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21581512



That was for "a well organized militia" not random doomsday kooks.
Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid,
it is true that most stupid people are conservative.

John Stuart Mill
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It's much harder to be a liberal than a conservative. Why?
Because it is easier to give someone the finger than a helping hand.
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everyone might as well accept it the bill is gonna pass.
assault weapons will be banned, when they come to take them if you resist, they will take all your weapons and arrest or kill you.
you will look like a nut job in the media and help the gun control cause.
All I can say is hide what you have and get more however you can, if their are any people with balls left in the USA, the revolution has just started.
My guess is they pick everyone one by one and Gun Control will be accepted like the bailouts,ObamaCare and so on.
 Quoting: Dr.Ricks


the bill might pass, but i doubt it will get through the house. and if it does, that does not mean i will abide by it - along with millions of others.

you see, i am the type of individual who will fight to the death for what i believe in - again, like millions of others.

apparently, doom IS on... just a few months off the mark.
Liberal Logic - Demanding that the government stay out of their bedrooms while insisting on taxpayer funded birth control.
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Seriously?

So guns should only be used for hunting?

Where does the Constitution mention hunting?
 Quoting: Tuko


You need a 50 round clip ak-47 semi for what?
 Quoting: Ice


Why not? That's my right as an American. Sounds to me like you need to move to some little third world shithole to appreciate what you had here.
 Quoting: Hooch 14033322

It's my right not to agree with you

I will fight to take that right from you.

I would like to see no semi autos and no clips
larger than a 5 round load.
 Quoting: Ice


Then let it be known, that you are not reasonable and go against Americans and their rights as I quote you above.

Your views are not welcome, ever in any of my threads, posts.

Ignored list.
Oregon Constitution Article I, Section 27

The people shall have the right to bear arms for the defence of themselves, and the State, but the Military shall be kept in strict subordination to the civil power.
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People seem to forget, the founding fathers PUT the 2nd Amendment in the consitution to ensure people could protect the,selves not only from common enemy, but from tje GOVERNMENT itself...why do you think the government pushes gun control so much?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21581512



That was for "a well organized militia" not random doomsday kooks.
 Quoting: DOT 2 DOT


Well "regulated", not well organized.

"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."
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People seem to forget, the founding fathers PUT the 2nd Amendment in the consitution to ensure people could protect the,selves not only from common enemy, but from tje GOVERNMENT itself...why do you think the government pushes gun control so much?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21581512



That was for "a well organized militia" not random doomsday kooks.
 Quoting: DOT 2 DOT


Well "regulated", not well organized.

"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."
 Quoting: Nine's


OK OK
Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid,
it is true that most stupid people are conservative.

John Stuart Mill
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It's much harder to be a liberal than a conservative. Why?
Because it is easier to give someone the finger than a helping hand.
Mike Royko
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People seem to forget, the founding fathers PUT the 2nd Amendment in the consitution to ensure people could protect the,selves not only from common enemy, but from tje GOVERNMENT itself...why do you think the government pushes gun control so much?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21581512



That was for "a well organized militia" not random doomsday kooks.
 Quoting: DOT 2 DOT


No, kook, it states very clearly "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" a well regulated militia is a separate issue.

Can you read?
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I agree with the purple-lipped ape--

How about parents actually PARENT, and stop letting the kids have access to the SICK TV, movies, and video games???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29760064


:stopandread:


You are 100% correct! I say that as a parent who does not allow that crap in our home. We play outside, make up games, whatever. There is no reset button in life. I will never be a perfect person or parent, but I will do all I can to keep that crap out of my child's life.
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He said Freedom was the problem...

I guess that means despite 210 years of evidence to the contrary, the Constitution is the reason for all of this...

Thread: We Are Endangering Our Children As The Price For Our Freedom, Barack Hussein Obama, Dec 16, 2012...
"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

"Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..."
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Re: I agree with the President - time to take steps to protect the children
We should be able to own any gun we choose. It is especially. Important to be able to own a defencive weapon equal in power to those local police have to give people a chance at defending themselves incase the government goes crazy, well then they already are.

People shouldnt fear the government it should be the other way around.

The problem isnt guns, its parenting from a young age.

Guns will never be banned. The moment a all out gun ban is announced war will happen between citizens and gov.

They cant ban handguns, handguns and shotguns are superior home def guns. They cant ban rifles because hunting.

Anyhow, take away guns and then you have mass killings with IEDs, crossbows, machetes, you name it. If a fucked up crazy person wants to kill he will find a way, gun or no gun.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17793849


I can order a AK-47 style military weapon with a 50 round clip. Why do
I need that?
 Quoting: Ice


So you don't have to reload so often you derp!
 Quoting: CharlieMurphy


Actually, you can order 10, 20, 30, 60, and 100 round magazines...they're not "Clips"....

Last Edited by Saddletramp on 12/16/2012 11:29 PM
"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

"Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..."
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Us Aussies can't understand you folks in the US...

We had a mass shooting in 1996 - 35 people were killed by a gunman. The Federal Government stood up to the gun lobby and changed gun laws then and there.

Gun deaths have dropped by half since then. And we haven't had another mass shooting since 1996.

For what it's worth - owning a gun might make you FEEL safer but it doesn't mean you ARE safer.

At least figure something out for semi-automatic weapons, seriously.
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if at least one of the teachers had a gun perhaps they could have defended the children, just like they do in Israel
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We should be able to own any gun we choose. It is especially. Important to be able to own a defencive weapon equal in power to those local police have to give people a chance at defending themselves incase the government goes crazy, well then they already are.

People shouldnt fear the government it should be the other way around.

The problem isnt guns, its parenting from a young age.

Guns will never be banned. The moment a all out gun ban is announced war will happen between citizens and gov.

They cant ban handguns, handguns and shotguns are superior home def guns. They cant ban rifles because hunting.

Anyhow, take away guns and then you have mass killings with IEDs, crossbows, machetes, you name it. If a fucked up crazy person wants to kill he will find a way, gun or no gun.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17793849


I can order a AK-47 style military weapon with a 50 round clip. Why do
I need that?
 Quoting: Ice


So you don't have to reload so often you derp!
 Quoting: CharlieMurphy


Actually, you can order 10, 20, 30, 60, and 100 round magazines...they're not "Clips"....
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Whatever

I don't worship around the gathering of gun knowledge.

When you own 57 guns and it is not enough , you might
be out of control.
You need to figure it out !
Ice (OP)
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if at least one of the teachers had a gun perhaps they could have defended the children, just like they do in Israel
 Quoting: jacksprat


I agree with this

I agree with you owning a gun

You have the right to own a gun
You need to figure it out !
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and put mentally ill people in mental hospitals not in the Arch as a homeless person.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27751180


So, Lets get this straight.

100 or so children are killed in U.S schools a year in shootings ALL by mentally ill MEN.


SO we should lock ALL the mentally ill up.


SO, by the same logic considering there are THOUSANDS ( a much larger number )of women raped a year in the U.S by MEN.

Should we not consider locking ALL men up for the safety of woman ??
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Where does the Constitution mention hunting?
 Quoting: Tuko



clappa
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Re: I agree with the President - time to take steps to protect the children
It has nothing to do with the guns or the size of the gun or how many clips it loads, etc.

It has to do with the people and how the people get the guns.

I agree limitations are needed but not limitations on the guns themselves.

Only 60% do background checks for gun registrations...60%.

Even if they do background checks on 100% the problem still will not be resolved.

I am not sure what the solution is but it should not involve limiting the types of guns or ammo.

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