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The reason I'm getting involved in this issue is because I know what's around the corner for america.
I know these factions like the back of my hand.
I know every aspect of there game.

It's not what you all think.

There very good at what they do...a lot of you are getting sucked in to that agenda.

I don't want to see america go into termoil.
Your all falling for the agenda...hook line and sinker.
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you go ahead and help him change the law and times...
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Change gun laws to get the stupid out of what
is now going on.

Arm guard at all schools

Teachers with guns

In college allow carry laws

Pass easy carry laws for the good folk

Get ride of none hunting type guns for good

of all
 Quoting: Ice

Defund planned parenthood abortion mills... look at the millions of little babies that have been murdered in cold blood!
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i agree, we must ban cars now.
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I disagree with getting rid of assault weapons.

If there were to be a police state, the only people who would have assault weapons will be the people herding you around. Kind of hard to fight back with a shot gun against an AR-15.

Also, if we were to be invaded by another country at this very moment, most of our military is overseas. Our militias are going to need assault weapons to deal with the invasion.
 Quoting: Éireann


This is were your all wrong in your assumptions.

They have no agenda to round people up...
all this is a smoke and mirrors scenario.
what divides the masses? it's not about the guns.
It's about the divisions it will cause in the fabric.

Because of the mentality on the gun issues...america will be divided tenfold...
the gun issue is very ingrained in your society.
To pull that society to the brink is to divide the issue.
It's not about people getting rounded up.
wake up and smell the roses.
 Quoting: mysterynomore

Please don't think me an ass, but I grew up on a farm. Everyone had guns. Never once did anyone's kid take a gun to school, shoot someone on purpose, or resolve a fight with a gun. I've never fired a weapon. My parents have lots of guns. I'm not interested in the least in handling one even though my father would like to see me take classes so I'm not so afraid of them. It's the person holding the gun that kills, the gun is just a tool like a club, a fist, or a frying pan.

I don't see why it has to be a divisive issue, but since people have been programmed to think, "Gun - bad" responsible gun owners are made out to be closet fruit cakes on the verge of going psychotic any minute. Even my mother knows how to shoot and she's a dead shot. I wouldn't want to be a criminal breaking into their house. She wouldn't miss.
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Change gun laws to get the stupid out of what
is now going on.

Arm guard at all schools

Teachers with guns

In college allow carry laws

Pass easy carry laws for the good folk

Get ride of none hunting type guns for good

of all
 Quoting: Ice


Hell, I thought schools already had guards. We have police cars at all our schools everyday (the ones I can see anyway).
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Get ride of none hunting type guns for good
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I see you drank the kool-aid ...
wrong choice

big pharma killed those children
when doctors prescribed all kinds
of drugs that scrambled the brains
of the shooters

we do not have a gun problem...
we have a drug problem

get your kids off script drugs ASAP.
all part of the dumbing down of
America
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Get ride of none hunting type guns for good
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I see you drank the kool-aid ...
wrong choice

big pharma killed those children
when doctors prescribed all kinds
of drugs that scrambled the brains
of the shooters

we do not have a gun problem...
we have a drug problem

get your kids off script drugs ASAP.
all part of the dumbing down of
America
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7799716


you do realize that doctors get kick backs
and fringe benefits for prescribing
certain drugs to patients ???

there is an incentive for a doctor
to give your kid a drug that will
scramble his brain and cause him
to do things like this.

and doctors take that money from
big pharma with a big smile on their face.
not caring what it will do to their
patients.

how many mass school shootings did we have
before Ritalin was invented ???

ZERO

but we had lots of guns back then didn't we ?
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Re: I agree with the President - time to take steps to protect the children
Change gun laws to get the stupid out of what
is now going on.

Arm guard at all schools

Teachers with guns

In college allow carry laws

Pass easy carry laws for the good folk

Get ride of none hunting type guns for good

of all
 Quoting: Ice


Hell, I thought schools already had guards. We have police cars at all our schools everyday (the ones I can see anyway).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1328514


After 911,it was proposed to put a air Marshall on every flight. The government said it would be too expensive to do that. They then spent billions forming the TSA.

I would assume it would be too expensive to put a guard in every school but they can probably form the SSA,School Safety Administration.
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Get ride of none hunting type guns for good
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I see you drank the kool-aid ...
wrong choice

big pharma killed those children
when doctors prescribed all kinds
of drugs that scrambled the brains
of the shooters

we do not have a gun problem...
we have a drug problem

get your kids off script drugs ASAP.
all part of the dumbing down of
America
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7799716


you do realize that doctors get kick backs
and fringe benefits for prescribing
certain drugs to patients ???

there is an incentive for a doctor
to give your kid a drug that will
scramble his brain and cause him
to do things like this.

and doctors take that money from
big pharma with a big smile on their face.
not caring what it will do to their
patients.

how many mass school shootings did we have
before Ritalin was invented ???

ZERO

but we had lots of guns back then didn't we ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7799716



Also realize that schools get kick backs for pointing out kids that should "in their opinion" be on drugs.
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I disagree with getting rid of assault weapons.

If there were to be a police state, the only people who would have assault weapons will be the people herding you around. Kind of hard to fight back with a shot gun against an AR-15.

Also, if we were to be invaded by another country at this very moment, most of our military is overseas. Our militias are going to need assault weapons to deal with the invasion.
 Quoting: Éireann


Agreed

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Get ride of none hunting type guns for good
 Quoting: Ice


I see you drank the kool-aid ...
wrong choice

big pharma killed those children
when doctors prescribed all kinds
of drugs that scrambled the brains
of the shooters

we do not have a gun problem...
we have a drug problem

get your kids off script drugs ASAP.
all part of the dumbing down of
America
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7799716


you do realize that doctors get kick backs
and fringe benefits for prescribing
certain drugs to patients ???

there is an incentive for a doctor
to give your kid a drug that will
scramble his brain and cause him
to do things like this.

and doctors take that money from
big pharma with a big smile on their face.
not caring what it will do to their
patients.

how many mass school shootings did we have
before Ritalin was invented ???

ZERO

but we had lots of guns back then didn't we ?
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I agree with this. This is what I've been saying all along.
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we got our guns took away. Big fucking deal. Most of us couldn't give a rat's arse.

Despite all the stats nothing at all has changed. We never worshiped guns at any stage and thankfully we never had no stupid dumb constitution to guide us down some idiot gun totting road.

You yanks are fucked up thinking you need to have guns in order to be democratic. Most of the civilised world does quite nicely without them thank you very much and if any of you have traveled and had a look around you'll note most countries where guns are a dime a dozen you might see how they've made life so cheap.

Stop worshiping your fucking guns and get yourself a life for fuck sake you pricks are just a bunch of gun totting jerks thinking you have a right to rule the world. Well Deadwood's gold is gone and all the Buffalo is shot. So straighten up and fly right.. You don't need no fucken Gun.

Wake the fuck UP. A nation of Jerks. You seen it on the TV and you want it pretty fast!

You all gun fanatics have gotten your just deserts and if you keep sprouting your macho horse-shit.. one day it will be you or YOUR children lying in the blood soaked earth.
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Seriously?

So guns should only be used for hunting?

Where does the Constitution mention hunting?
 Quoting: Tuko


You need a 50 round clip ak-47 semi for what?
 Quoting: Ice


Why not? That's my right as an American. Sounds to me like you need to move to some little third world shithole to appreciate what you had here.
 Quoting: Hooch 14033322

It's my right not to agree with you

I will fight to take that right from you.

I would like to see no semi autos and no clips
larger than a 5 round load.
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And you will die, like anyone who tries to take that right away from me.
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We should be able to own any gun we choose. It is especially. Important to be able to own a defencive weapon equal in power to those local police have to give people a chance at defending themselves incase the government goes crazy, well then they already are.

People shouldnt fear the government it should be the other way around.

The problem isnt guns, its parenting from a young age.

Guns will never be banned. The moment a all out gun ban is announced war will happen between citizens and gov.

They cant ban handguns, handguns and shotguns are superior home def guns. They cant ban rifles because hunting.

Anyhow, take away guns and then you have mass killings with IEDs, crossbows, machetes, you name it. If a fucked up crazy person wants to kill he will find a way, gun or no gun.
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I can order a AK-47 style military weapon with a 50 round clip. Why do
I need that?
 Quoting: Ice


You won't find an ak that takes 50 round "clips". Magazines, yes.


Clearly someone who has never shot this type of rifle. Armchair experts abound.
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Semantics aside, amendment 2A was written to provide citizens will military-capable arms to resist tyranny.

"well the founders never had ak's and ar's" -- true..they had the Kentucky long rifle, which was actually superior to British smooth-bore military muskets. Sure, they used the same rifle for hunting and sport, but the fact remains that it was a military grade rifle.

And OP, just how do you plan on ridding the country of so called assault weapons? I own several, all legal, but only one has a paper trail back to me. If someone comes knocking, that's all they will be after. The rest...well...

Your logic is fundamentally flawed, at best.
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we got our guns took away. Big fucking deal. Most of us couldn't give a rat's arse.

Despite all the stats nothing at all has changed. We never worshiped guns at any stage and thankfully we never had no stupid dumb constitution to guide us down some idiot gun totting road.

You yanks are fucked up thinking you need to have guns in order to be democratic. Most of the civilised world does quite nicely without them thank you very much and if any of you have traveled and had a look around you'll note most countries where guns are a dime a dozen you might see how they've made life so cheap.

Stop worshiping your fucking guns and get yourself a life for fuck sake you pricks are just a bunch of gun totting jerks thinking you have a right to rule the world. Well Deadwood's gold is gone and all the Buffalo is shot. So straighten up and fly right.. You don't need no fucken Gun.

Wake the fuck UP. A nation of Jerks. You seen it on the TV and you want it pretty fast!

You all gun fanatics have gotten your just deserts and if you keep sprouting your macho horse-shit.. one day it will be you or YOUR children lying in the blood soaked earth.
 Quoting: Quanta 30132450


Come spend a week in my neighborhood, then tell me I don't have a use for a gun. I live where I can afford, which isn't the greatest area. Full of human trash. Homicides, robberies, home invasions, the works. I actually thwarted a home invasion a few years ago by brandishing my sidearm...luckily I didn't have to shoot, as I drew mine before he could get to his. Staring down the barrel of a .40 cal caused the thug to rethink his actions.

Our situation is not like your situation. Parallels cannot be drawn.
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Change gun laws to get the stupid out of what
is now going on.

Arm guard at all schools

Teachers with guns

In college allow carry laws

Pass easy carry laws for the good folk

Get ride of none hunting type guns for good

of all
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No laws or limits are going to change the fact that this WILL happen again. No more guns and you will see gun fanatics bombing schools with over the counter chemicals just to prove a point.

The answer is better parenting in a lot of senseless violence cases.

Other than better parenting as a solution, there is no other solution. Evil gets hold of some and they do heinous things. The pain afterwards is rough, but trying to create laws to limit essential freedoms in an attempt to eradicate senseless acts of violence is a fruitless excursion.

Its like kids. sort of... they want to help so they make themselves a PPJ but win up getting jelly on the floor and dont really have the sandwich they wanted and then weve created more of a mess and are back at square one - only with less energy now.
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The Second Amendment did not turn out so well for us, did it?

Fear and greed...drive a dangerous car.

Big money to be made in the firearms business..

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we got our guns took away. Big fucking deal. Most of us couldn't give a rat's arse.

Despite all the stats nothing at all has changed. We never worshiped guns at any stage and thankfully we never had no stupid dumb constitution to guide us down some idiot gun totting road.

You yanks are fucked up thinking you need to have guns in order to be democratic. Most of the civilised world does quite nicely without them thank you very much and if any of you have traveled and had a look around you'll note most countries where guns are a dime a dozen you might see how they've made life so cheap.

Stop worshiping your fucking guns and get yourself a life for fuck sake you pricks are just a bunch of gun totting jerks thinking you have a right to rule the world. Well Deadwood's gold is gone and all the Buffalo is shot. So straighten up and fly right.. You don't need no fucken Gun.

Wake the fuck UP. A nation of Jerks. You seen it on the TV and you want it pretty fast!

You all gun fanatics have gotten your just deserts and if you keep sprouting your macho horse-shit.. one day it will be you or YOUR children lying in the blood soaked earth.
 Quoting: Quanta 30132450



It's like.. the boys are grown up now and still want to play cowboys. It's the Wild Wild West again! It's shoot 'em up time on Main Street! What do you want on YOUR tombstone?

These wild-eyed "arm everyone! the gubmint' is comin' to get 'ya!" radicals are freaking me out!

What is going on in the minds of these people who imagine themselves going into combat on the streets. Wow, the paranoia and fear is beyond comprehension. Imagining that you're going to engage in a shoot-out with the government is just bizarre. The radical direction that much of the GLP community has been taking is creepy!
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Yes we need to stop all this killing of kids now it has gotten all out
Of hand. Look up how many are killed every day by obortion.
First we said it was ok to kill kids on a mass scale through
Obortion and you never thought this would be the end result.
Yes make it ok to kill kids and then make halo 1 2 3 4 and teach
Kids how to get good at killing other kids. Smart. How about
Taking god out of schools I bet that was a good idea too.
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The Ct. gun laws are very rigid. The clips that these guns along with the AR-15 are not large one. No soldier would go out and wage war depending on these.

Quit the gun talk and delve into the meds talk as each one of all these assaults have had that in common and while you are at it take a good hard look at the 'game' culture as it is all about desensitizing our youth to develop the skills necessary to maim and kill and earn points for it.

We have been and are programmed for this and then you add the electronic or radio frequency fog we have surrounding us and the subliminal opportunities to tweek these people along with their 'counselling' and you have natural born killers.

Not one bit of this is "accidental", not a single aspect of it.

It is being used to get all of your knee jerking responses. hose who are doing just that.
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Amazing how so many cant see how far out of the
box you have got over the love of big bad ass guns!

Anyone that threatens your right to have a AK-47 needs
to die!
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We should be able to own any gun we choose. It is especially. Important to be able to own a defencive weapon equal in power to those local police have to give people a chance at defending themselves incase the government goes crazy, well then they already are.

People shouldnt fear the government it should be the other way around.

The problem isnt guns, its parenting from a young age.

Guns will never be banned. The moment a all out gun ban is announced war will happen between citizens and gov.

They cant ban handguns, handguns and shotguns are superior home def guns. They cant ban rifles because hunting.

Anyhow, take away guns and then you have mass killings with IEDs, crossbows, machetes, you name it. If a fucked up crazy person wants to kill he will find a way, gun or no gun.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17793849


I can order a AK-47 style military weapon with a 50 round clip. Why do
I need that?
 Quoting: Ice


So you don't have to reload so often you derp!
 Quoting: CharlieMurphy


Actually, you can order 10, 20, 30, 60, and 100 round magazines...they're not "Clips"....
 Quoting: Saddletramp


You beat me to it, lol....My Dad & I were just talking about this the other day. The "ping" sound of a clip ejecting from the M-1. I always laugh at movies when they say "give me another clip"....morons, lol!
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Amazing how so many cant see how far out of the
box you have got over the love of big bad ass guns!

Anyone that threatens your right to have a AK-47 needs
to die!
 Quoting: Ice


If memory serves me correct, the reason the Brady Bill was shot down (no pun intended), is that there were no reductions in crimes with an "assault" type weapon. Look it up on the FBI site, the stats are there on gun crimes.

Ice, you're slipping down the slope of total control, not just "assualt weapons", ALL guns will be the end game here.

Think about it long and hard, brother!

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I can order a AK-47 style military weapon with a 50 round clip. Why do
I need that?
 Quoting: Ice


So you don't have to reload so often you derp!
 Quoting: CharlieMurphy


Actually, you can order 10, 20, 30, 60, and 100 round magazines...they're not "Clips"....
 Quoting: Saddletramp


You beat me to it, lol....My Dad & I were just talking about this the other day. The "ping" sound of a clip ejecting from the M-1. I always laugh at movies when they say "give me another clip"....morons, lol!
 Quoting: ohnonotagain

You are 1000% right

I have never shot a AK-47

Never seen one

I have limited knowledge of something I don't
need.

Military folk need em

Police need em


I don't
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Protect our children by NOT giving them drugs pushed by Big Pharm!


It is important for people to understand the specific definition of these drugs and their function. Typically, the MAO, Non-MAO, SSRI and certain other drugs are defined in medical literature as Neuroleptic drugs. The definition here says a lot. These drugs do nothing to treat the situation and the definition says so. These drugs only restrain behavior. They are chemical “strait jackets.” They make it difficult for a person to do anything. Under the influence of these drugs, the person does not present [exhibit symptoms] with his rash behavior. He still wants to do it and becomes, over time, more and more determined in his course of action; he just cannot do it while the drugs are in control.

The basic problem here is the loss of the control. It comes in several forms. Over time, these drugs become less and less effective. They also cause serious brain damage to the person over time in the form of dementia which results in more and more irrational behavior. Over time, the person gets a lot worse. The typical time for this is about three to five years for any particular drug. Persons are given different drugs periodically, as time diminishes the drug’s effect. The damage to the person continues.

As the person becomes more and more damaged, they also become angrier more easily and more quickly. People handling Alzheimer’s disease patients and family become familiar with the person who was previously so nice and friendly, becoming more and more likely to strike out or do rash acts. This is the progression of dementia. Remember that the damage is never exactly in a pattern. It shows up differently in every unique individual.



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Change gun laws to get the stupid out of what
is now going on.

Arm guard at all schools

Teachers with guns

In college allow carry laws

Pass easy carry laws for the good folk

Get ride of none hunting type guns for good

of all
 Quoting: Ice


Seriously?

So guns should only be used for hunting?

Where does the Constitution mention hunting?
 Quoting: Tuko




hunting only applied to decent folk

few do that nowdays

unless they're hunting the decent folk...

enuf said





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