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As a gun owner and shooter and a father of a 6 yr old daughter I was extremely alarmed by the recent school shooting. I enjoy shooting but admittedly, guns make killing easy.. The truth is, that in the hands of a maniac, they make it way to easy.

but is giving guns up truly a solution? Is throwing out the Constitution really an option. I would say no.

but there is an underlying problem and that is the mental state of the USA. Too many of us are on anti-depressants and psychotropic drugs, making us unstable and unpredictable.

in this recent case, the guns were not even the property of the killer.

so is there an option, which allows gun owners the right to own and fire a gun, while keeping these same guns away from manic psychos?

I believe so. Here is my proposal.

what if the local sheriffs department held guns in a locked room for each gun owner? In order to use it, you went and signed it out. You could sign it out for a day or a week or a month. The gun owner paid rent keep the guns locked up.

I know that this removes the guns from the home and hence, remove the ability to protect oneself, but most people I know keep their guns in a gun safe, which is inconvenient.

this is a sacrifice on the part of gun owners, and it is a sacrifice on behalf of those who say, take away the 2nd amendment. But it would take a pretty ballsy move, to go to the sherriffs office and sign out a gun and then go kill with it.. As a matter of fact, who would go ask a cop for their gun so they could go kill?

gun owners: surely this option beats having your guns confiscated forever, right?

gun haters: this puts the killing machines in the hands of trained professionals, who can observe the owner and look for signs of anger or anything that alerts them to something unusual about their behavior.

again, I own 8 different guns: 2 pistols, 2 semi-auto rifles, 1 shotgun, 1 pistol calibre rifle and 2 short barreled rifles. I shoot weekly. But gun sales have gone through the roof and who is to say that all of these gun owners are all together there.

buy a gun, it goes directly to the sheriffs department. Sign it out, go shooting, sign it back in.

BTW: when I was I. The army this was very similar to the armory. In order to get my m16 I had to sign it out and return it later that day. No different.
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FUCK YOU OP.
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LOL! U r crazy OP!
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after obamas speech tonight, they will be coming for our "assault" rifles. It is a matter of time. We will all be forced to choose. Revolution or disarmament.

they were given a choice in England, and if you read the article, many chose disarmament. I'm sure they would have told me to fuck off as well. But in the end they lost their guns.

if it becomes a black or white issue, you will either lose your guns or your life. Without compromise you may lose both.
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although something like that might work, in some areas, it does not work anywhere in the country.

I have a farm, and carry a gun all the time for predators killing my livestock. In addition, I have altercations with meth-heads looking for places to make meth at least once a year.

We use our guns for protection against predators, against evil men, and as a last resort, against an evil government. With them locked up at the sheriffs department, they are worthless.

It might be ok if you only go to the range once a month, or if you only use it for deer hunting twice a year, but it does no good for a real man who uses his guns on a daily basis for the safety of himself, his family, and his livestock.
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As a gun owner and shooter and a father of a 6 yr old daughter I was extremely alarmed by the recent school shooting. I enjoy shooting but admittedly, guns make killing easy.. The truth is, that in the hands of a maniac, they make it way to easy.

but is giving guns up truly a solution? Is throwing out the Constitution really an option. I would say no.

but there is an underlying problem and that is the mental state of the USA. Too many of us are on anti-depressants and psychotropic drugs, making us unstable and unpredictable.

in this recent case, the guns were not even the property of the killer.

so is there an option, which allows gun owners the right to own and fire a gun, while keeping these same guns away from manic psychos?

I believe so. Here is my proposal.

what if the local sheriffs department held guns in a locked room for each gun owner? In order to use it, you went and signed it out. You could sign it out for a day or a week or a month. The gun owner paid rent keep the guns locked up.

I know that this removes the guns from the home and hence, remove the ability to protect oneself, but most people I know keep their guns in a gun safe, which is inconvenient.

this is a sacrifice on the part of gun owners, and it is a sacrifice on behalf of those who say, take away the 2nd amendment. But it would take a pretty ballsy move, to go to the sherriffs office and sign out a gun and then go kill with it.. As a matter of fact, who would go ask a cop for their gun so they could go kill?

gun owners: surely this option beats having your guns confiscated forever, right?

gun haters: this puts the killing machines in the hands of trained professionals, who can observe the owner and look for signs of anger or anything that alerts them to something unusual about their behavior.

again, I own 8 different guns: 2 pistols, 2 semi-auto rifles, 1 shotgun, 1 pistol calibre rifle and 2 short barreled rifles. I shoot weekly. But gun sales have gone through the roof and who is to say that all of these gun owners are all together there.

buy a gun, it goes directly to the sheriffs department. Sign it out, go shooting, sign it back in.

BTW: when I was I. The army this was very similar to the armory. In order to get my m16 I had to sign it out and return it later that day. No different.
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A VOTE FOR JUSTIN TRUDEAU IN 2015, WOULD BE THE MOST COWARDLY & IRRESPONSIBLE THING A CANADIAN CITIZEN COULD DO TO THEIR OWN PEOPLE. GUN GRABBERS ARE THE COMMON ENEMY OF ALL PEOPLE.

GUN CONTROL HAS RESULTED IN THE SLAUGHTER OF 262 MILLION CITIZENS BY THEIR GOVERNMENTS OVER THE PAST 100 YEARS.

THE LIBERAL PARTY OF CANADA & THE NDP ENDORSE GUN CONTROL, AN ESSENTIAL POLICY OF HITLER, STALIN, MAO, POL POT, EDI AMIN, QADDAFI, SADDAM, ASSAD, & EVERY OTHER TYRANNICAL GOVERNMENT THIS PAST CENTURY.

CANADIANS MUST NEVER FORGET THE BETRAYAL OF BILLS C-68 & C-17. WE MUST NOT REST UNTIL THEY ARE FULLY REPEALED.

C-19 WAS A GOOD START......BUT JUST A START. GET OFF YOUR COLLECTIVE ASSES AND MAKE AN IMPACT. WE HAVE 26 MONTHS.

I, THEE BOB, SWEAR ON THE ALTER OF GOD TO FIGHT ALL FORMS OF CANADIAN TYRANNY AND SAVE MY COUNTRY FROM THE EVILS OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER. I WILL NEVER HAND IN MY GUNS. EVER. I AM A FREE MAN, I WILL NOT BE THE BITCH OF THE SOCIALIST ESTABLISHMENT. LEAVE ME ALONE.
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I guess my situation is so different than others. I know my sheriff. He is an elected official. I live right near town and have to drive to a shooting range to be able to shoot. I keep my guns locked up because of my kids. I would not have a problem allowing the sheriff to hold my guns as long as I could get them whenever I wanted.

I can read the writing on the wall though, and it spells disarmament.

here's how they'll do it. If you don't give up your guns they will kick down your door at 3 AM. They will watch you and wait for you and when your defense is down they will strike. They will kill you and say you were a domestic terrorist. They will claim you had kiddie porn all over your computer and you had ties to jihadists. And then you will be forgotten. They will come in force, with fully automatic weapons and armoured vehicles and tear gas and stun grenades.

the only way out of this is armed revolution. Which means a militia needs to assemble immediately, set up a stronghold and have 24 hr guards. But even then, the drones will kill you.
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I have an idea. DHS can sell their armored vehicles to Saudi Arabia or somebody and turn our tax money back to the local governments so that they can afford to provide static and/or active defenses at public schools.
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Im sure criminals will take advantage of such a service...right after they kill me an my entire family because i cant fight back because my FUCKING GUNS ARE LOCKED UP AT THE SHERIFFS OFFICE.

Hear this...Sandy hook experienced a HORRIBLE tragedy. Unimaginably so. But I am NOT willing to compromise my rights any further due to tragedy. One mans actions shouldnt affect an ENTIRE nations rights. The government doesnt fucking care about dead kids, they want an unarmed populace.
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An interesting idea. Not that I like it, or dislike it. But I like that you're brainstorming.
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Here's what I think of your retarded proposal:
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An interesting idea. Not that I like it, or dislike it. But I like that you're brainstorming.
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With all due respect (because, again, i like that you're using your noggin), it won't happen, because most guns are bought for protection of family/home, and, like you said, you'd be defenseless in your own home from potential assailants who may or may not be armed themselves.
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IMO...you have ghey tendencies and wear a diaper. That is all!
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Your stupidity is astounding.
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As a gun owner and shooter and a father of a 6 yr old daughter I was extremely alarmed by the recent school shooting. I enjoy shooting but admittedly, guns make killing easy.. The truth is, that in the hands of a maniac, they make it way to easy.

but is giving guns up truly a solution? Is throwing out the Constitution really an option. I would say no.

but there is an underlying problem and that is the mental state of the USA. Too many of us are on anti-depressants and psychotropic drugs, making us unstable and unpredictable.

in this recent case, the guns were not even the property of the killer.

so is there an option, which allows gun owners the right to own and fire a gun, while keeping these same guns away from manic psychos?

I believe so. Here is my proposal.

what if the local sheriffs department held guns in a locked room for each gun owner? In order to use it, you went and signed it out. You could sign it out for a day or a week or a month. The gun owner paid rent keep the guns locked up.

I know that this removes the guns from the home and hence, remove the ability to protect oneself, but most people I know keep their guns in a gun safe, which is inconvenient.

this is a sacrifice on the part of gun owners, and it is a sacrifice on behalf of those who say, take away the 2nd amendment. But it would take a pretty ballsy move, to go to the sherriffs office and sign out a gun and then go kill with it.. As a matter of fact, who would go ask a cop for their gun so they could go kill?

gun owners: surely this option beats having your guns confiscated forever, right?

gun haters: this puts the killing machines in the hands of trained professionals, who can observe the owner and look for signs of anger or anything that alerts them to something unusual about their behavior.

again, I own 8 different guns: 2 pistols, 2 semi-auto rifles, 1 shotgun, 1 pistol calibre rifle and 2 short barreled rifles. I shoot weekly. But gun sales have gone through the roof and who is to say that all of these gun owners are all together there.

buy a gun, it goes directly to the sheriffs department. Sign it out, go shooting, sign it back in.

BTW: when I was I. The army this was very similar to the armory. In order to get my m16 I had to sign it out and return it later that day. No different.
 Quoting: RF 1287633


OP do you ever feel like taking you guns and commit mass shootings to kill innocent people?

Have you ever fantasized about it?

Maybe, just once, a little itty bit?

No?

I thought so.

Neither do I, so where does that leave your idea?

BTW, if you answered "yes" then fuck the idea; you shouldn't own guns...AT ALL!
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As a gun owner and shooter and a father of a 6 yr old daughter I was extremely alarmed by the recent school shooting. I enjoy shooting but admittedly, guns make killing easy.. The truth is, that in the hands of a maniac, they make it way to easy.
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And a gun in my hand makes it very easy to stop a maniac bent on destruction.





With your plan;

You; Howdy Sheriff, I'd like to take my AR15 to the range this afternoon.

Sheriff: Sorry, Homeland Security was here yesterday and emptied out all of your secure lockers, and there was nothing I could do.

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after obamas speech tonight, they will be coming for our "assault" rifles. It is a matter of time. We will all be forced to choose. Revolution or disarmament.

they were given a choice in England, and if you read the article, many chose disarmament. I'm sure they would have told me to fuck off as well. But in the end they lost their guns.

if it becomes a black or white issue, you will either lose your guns or your life. Without compromise you may lose both.
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GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH~~~~COMPROMISE??? BANE HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I guess my situation is so different than others. I know my sheriff. He is an elected official. I live right near town and have to drive to a shooting range to be able to shoot. I keep my guns locked up because of my kids. I would not have a problem allowing the sheriff to hold my guns as long as I could get them whenever I wanted.

I can read the writing on the wall though, and it spells disarmament.

here's how they'll do it. If you don't give up your guns they will kick down your door at 3 AM. They will watch you and wait for you and when your defense is down they will strike. They will kill you and say you were a domestic terrorist. They will claim you had kiddie porn all over your computer and you had ties to jihadists. And then you will be forgotten. They will come in force, with fully automatic weapons and armoured vehicles and tear gas and stun grenades.

the only way out of this is armed revolution. Which means a militia needs to assemble immediately, set up a stronghold and have 24 hr guards. But even then, the drones will kill you.
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If your initial post did not key people to the fact that you are a troll, the above just did. Crawl back under your rock, traitor. And pray that your handlers never get their way. Because if they do, you will wish you'd never enlisted...promise.
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I want to thank you all for your responses. I was hoping that some of these gunhaters, which seem rampant on this site, would respond because I'm curious what they would think of compromise. That is why I didn't post this on ar15.com, because every response would match the ones here.

I don't believe I am a retard. But the populace, including my own wife, have been brainwashed to hate guns. And incidences like this convince them even more.

my wife is yelling for me to sell my guns to save the lives of my kids. Therefore, I am seeking compromise.

in my situation, I could move the guns out of my house and would not fear for my life. But I would not just give my guns away either.

some posters seem to understand and think rationally, but most are responding out of pure emotion.
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You wrote all that under one silly presumption? That someone who plans on slaughtering people is afraid to walk into a police station to pick up his guns?



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I guess my situation is so different than others. I know my sheriff. He is an elected official. I live right near town and have to drive to a shooting range to be able to shoot. I keep my guns locked up because of my kids. I would not have a problem allowing the sheriff to hold my guns as long as I could get them whenever I wanted.

I can read the writing on the wall though, and it spells disarmament.

here's how they'll do it. If you don't give up your guns they will kick down your door at 3 AM. They will watch you and wait for you and when your defense is down they will strike. They will kill you and say you were a domestic terrorist. They will claim you had kiddie porn all over your computer and you had ties to jihadists. And then you will be forgotten. They will come in force, with fully automatic weapons and armoured vehicles and tear gas and stun grenades.

the only way out of this is armed revolution. Which means a militia needs to assemble immediately, set up a stronghold and have 24 hr guards. But even then, the drones will kill you.
 Quoting: RF 1287633


If your initial post did not key people to the fact that you are a troll, the above just did. Crawl back under your rock, traitor. And pray that your handlers never get their way. Because if they do, you will wish you'd never enlisted...promise.
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what's a troll? I thought it was someone who posted hate stuff towards someone else?. I'm a product designer at a large company, father of 2, ex soldier, NRA member and gun owner. Yet you spew hatred towards me?
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I want to thank you all for your responses. I was hoping that some of these gunhaters, which seem rampant on this site, would respond because I'm curious what they would think of compromise. That is why I didn't post this on ar15.com, because every response would match the ones here.

I don't believe I am a retard. But the populace, including my own wife, have been brainwashed to hate guns. And incidences like this convince them even more.

my wife is yelling for me to sell my guns to save the lives of my kids. Therefore, I am seeking compromise.

in my situation, I could move the guns out of my house and would not fear for my life. But I would not just give my guns away either.

some posters seem to understand and think rationally, but most are responding out of pure emotion.
 Quoting: RF 1287633


Heres a joke you need to tell your wife:



Throw in a "get back in the damn kitchen!" for good measure.

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my wife is yelling for me to sell my guns to save the lives of my kids. Therefore, I am seeking compromise.

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divorce your ignorant wife.

getting rid of your guns is the direct fucking opposite of saving your kids.

leave her... she is too stupid to be your significant other.
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I want to thank you all for your responses. I was hoping that some of these gunhaters, which seem rampant on this site, would respond because I'm curious what they would think of compromise. That is why I didn't post this on ar15.com, because every response would match the ones here.

I don't believe I am a retard. But the populace, including my own wife, have been brainwashed to hate guns. And incidences like this convince them even more.

my wife is yelling for me to sell my guns to save the lives of my kids. Therefore, I am seeking compromise.

in my situation, I could move the guns out of my house and would not fear for my life. But I would not just give my guns away either.

some posters seem to understand and think rationally, but most are responding out of pure emotion.
 Quoting: RF 1287633


The problem is your wife, who obviously can't do math when it comes to firearms and falls for the PsyOps from the boob tube. Does she want you to sell the SUV too, since the chance of your daughter being injured or killed is exponentionaly higher while travelling in a vehicle? You sound like a sane and responsable gun owner (although your idea in the original post is insane) and I bet you keep your weapons under lock and key in a secure area. Does your wife do the same with her Ginsu knives?
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As a gun owner and shooter and a father of a 6 yr old daughter I was extremely alarmed by the recent school shooting. I enjoy shooting but admittedly, guns make killing easy.. The truth is, that in the hands of a maniac, they make it way to easy.

but is giving guns up truly a solution? Is throwing out the Constitution really an option. I would say no.

but there is an underlying problem and that is the mental state of the USA. Too many of us are on anti-depressants and psychotropic drugs, making us unstable and unpredictable.

in this recent case, the guns were not even the property of the killer.

so is there an option, which allows gun owners the right to own and fire a gun, while keeping these same guns away from manic psychos?

I believe so. Here is my proposal.

what if the local sheriffs department held guns in a locked room for each gun owner? In order to use it, you went and signed it out. You could sign it out for a day or a week or a month. The gun owner paid rent keep the guns locked up.

I know that this removes the guns from the home and hence, remove the ability to protect oneself, but most people I know keep their guns in a gun safe, which is inconvenient.

this is a sacrifice on the part of gun owners, and it is a sacrifice on behalf of those who say, take away the 2nd amendment. But it would take a pretty ballsy move, to go to the sherriffs office and sign out a gun and then go kill with it.. As a matter of fact, who would go ask a cop for their gun so they could go kill?

gun owners: surely this option beats having your guns confiscated forever, right?

gun haters: this puts the killing machines in the hands of trained professionals, who can observe the owner and look for signs of anger or anything that alerts them to something unusual about their behavior.

again, I own 8 different guns: 2 pistols, 2 semi-auto rifles, 1 shotgun, 1 pistol calibre rifle and 2 short barreled rifles. I shoot weekly. But gun sales have gone through the roof and who is to say that all of these gun owners are all together there.

buy a gun, it goes directly to the sheriffs department. Sign it out, go shooting, sign it back in.


BTW: when I was I. The army this was very similar to the armory. In order to get my m16 I had to sign it out and return it later that day. No different.
 Quoting: RF 1287633



Sign it in and out?

Dude you must be smoking some good cookie dough!

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