GUN CONTROL, A PROPOSAL

I want to thank you all for your responses. I was hoping that some of these gunhaters, which seem rampant on this site, would respond because I'm curious what they would think of compromise. That is why I didn't post this on ar15.com, because every response would match the ones here.

I don't believe I am a retard. But the populace, including my own wife, have been brainwashed to hate guns. And incidences like this convince them even more.

my wife is yelling for me to sell my guns to save the lives of my kids. Therefore, I am seeking compromise.

in my situation, I could move the guns out of my house and would not fear for my life. But I would not just give my guns away either.

some posters seem to understand and think rationally, but most are responding out of pure emotion.

Fuck that, just do a deeper background and psych evaluation to keep the nut jobs away from being able to buy guns. But even that wont stop the shootings. The asshole shooter in this case used weapons stolen from his mother. Weapons that were undeniably legally purchased, and possessed by her, they even could have been locked up nit when a lunatic family member shoots you in the face with your own weapon its kind of hard to stop the theft. Just saying no matter what they come up with including more stringent laws or confiscation it wont stop anything, in fact crime will go up. But by allowing the open or concealed carry by every ciyizen anytime and any place, would drastically lower these instances from happening or at the very least end them sooner with fewer casualties just from the simple fact that its a lot harder to commiy these heinous attacks when there are several weapons pointed right back at you. People tend to have more respect toward a persom when they are armed...strangest thing

Fuck that, just do a deeper background and psych evaluation to keep the nut jobs away from being able to buy guns. But even that wont stop the shootings. The asshole shooter in this case used weapons stolen from his mother. Weapons that were undeniably legally purchase
, and possessed by her, they even could have been locked up nit when a lunatic family member shoots you in the face with your own weapon its kind of hard to stop the theft. Just saying no matter what they come up with including more stringent laws or confiscation it wont stop anything, in fact crime will go up. But by allowing the open or concealed carry by every ciyizen anytime and any place, would drastically lower these instances from happening or at the very least end them sooner with
fewer casualties just from the simple fact that its a lot harder to commiy

these heinous attacks when there are several weapons pointed right back at you. People tend to have more respect toward a persom when they are armed...strangest thing

You wrote all that under one silly presumption? That someone who plans on slaughtering people is afraid to walk into a police station to pick up his guns?

after obamas speech tonight, they will be coming for our "assault" rifles. It is a matter of time. We will all be forced to choose. Revolution or disarmament.

they were given a choice in England, and if you read the article, many chose disarmament. I'm sure they would have told me to fuck off as well. But in the end they lost their guns.

if it becomes a black or white issue, you will either lose your guns or your life. Without compromise you may lose both.

So, basically what you're proposing is to kill people to force gun control so that people won't be killed.

F***ing brilliant liberal strategy.

I guess either I can't write clearly or people can't read anymore. I OWN GUNS. I OWN ASSAULT WEAPONS. I AM A CONSERVATIVE REPLUBLICAN. I AM AN NRA MEMBER. I AN A VETERAN OF FOREIGN WAR. I LOVE MY GUN COLLECTION AND DO NOT WANT TO GIVE IT UP.. I don't propose killing but the fact is that they will kill you, me and anyone else who resists.

that being said. In 1996 in England there was a mass shooting. After which there was public outcry for disarmament. I'm sure if I posted the same question back then I would have been told to fuck off and heard that they would have to pry their weapons from their cold dead hands.. But today england is essentially gun free, except for the criminals.. There was no civil war. They just lost their guns...period.

I'm done posting. It's pretty clear that there can be no resolution except war. Not a single anti-gun lobbyist posted here, not one. And all of the gun owners say "pry them from my cold dead hands.".

I hope everyone is ready for where this leads.

As a gun owner and shooter and a father of a 6 yr old daughter I was extremely alarmed by the recent school shooting. I enjoy shooting but admittedly, guns make killing easy.. The truth is, that in the hands of a maniac, they make it way to easy.

but is giving guns up truly a solution? Is throwing out the Constitution really an option. I would say no.

but there is an underlying problem and that is the mental state of the USA. Too many of us are on anti-depressants and psychotropic drugs, making us unstable and unpredictable.

in this recent case, the guns were not even the property of the killer.

so is there an option, which allows gun owners the right to own and fire a gun, while keeping these same guns away from manic psychos?

I believe so. Here is my proposal.

what if the local sheriffs department held guns in a locked room for each gun owner? In order to use it, you went and signed it out. You could sign it out for a day or a week or a month. The gun owner paid rent keep the guns locked up.

I know that this removes the guns from the home and hence, remove the ability to protect oneself, but most people I know keep their guns in a gun safe, which is inconvenient.

this is a sacrifice on the part of gun owners, and it is a sacrifice on behalf of those who say, take away the 2nd amendment. But it would take a pretty ballsy move, to go to the sherriffs office and sign out a gun and then go kill with it.. As a matter of fact, who would go ask a cop for their gun so they could go kill?

gun owners: surely this option beats having your guns confiscated forever, right?

gun haters: this puts the killing machines in the hands of trained professionals, who can observe the owner and look for signs of anger or anything that alerts them to something unusual about their behavior.

again, I own 8 different guns: 2 pistols, 2 semi-auto rifles, 1 shotgun, 1 pistol calibre rifle and 2 short barreled rifles. I shoot weekly. But gun sales have gone through the roof and who is to say that all of these gun owners are all together there.

buy a gun, it goes directly to the sheriffs department. Sign it out, go shooting, sign it back in.

BTW: when I was I. The army this was very similar to the armory. In order to get my m16 I had to sign it out and return it later that day. No different.

FUCK YOU OP.

please, hold on a minute mr. intruder, before you rape my wife and kill my family, I need to go to the local sheriff and sign out my gun.....


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One shoe-bombing attempt and everyone takes off their shoes at the airport. Done.

Scotland - one school shooting, and all cartridges / clips banned from private ownership. No more school shootings.

There's merit in what OP says, particularly for certain types of weapons.

I don't agree with the NRA interpretation of the constitution and I think that there's no place for civilian ownership of semi-automatic weapons. Period.

Hunting weapons are not designed for mass murder. In my opinion such weapons are not the discussion. it's the automatics or those with large clips. What on earth do you need these for in your homes?

For those of you who don't like the idea that "guns kill people" I would suggest that it's exactly the case. Yes, people use the guns to kill people, but if someone has a semi-automatic weapon vs. a single-shot weapon or non-automatic, you tell me how that person is not better able to commit mass crimes. Don't you, in your private gun-clutching hearts believe that someone with an automatic is able to kill more people in less time simply BECAUSE THEY CAN? Don't you also believe that if those weapons were not available, the number of victims would be lower? MUCH lower?

It's a complete embarrassment that this country has 100's of millions of guns floating around in the population. It will take years to reverse this, but I completely agree with the OP that at least for some weapons, his suggestion is worth considering.

after obamas speech tonight, they will be coming for our "assault" rifles. It is a matter of time. We will all be forced to choose. Revolution or disarmament.

they were given a choice in England, and if you read the article, many chose disarmament. I'm sure they would have told me to fuck off as well. But in the end they lost their guns.

if it becomes a black or white issue, you will either lose your guns or your life. Without compromise you may lose both.

Paranoia runs deep on GLP.

One shoe-bombing attempt and everyone takes off their shoes at the airport. Done.

Scotland - one school shooting, and all cartridges / clips banned from private ownership. No more school shootings.

There's merit in what OP says, particularly for certain types of weapons.

I don't agree with the NRA interpretation of the constitution and I think that there's no place for civilian ownership of semi-automatic weapons. Period.

Hunting weapons are not designed for mass murder. In my opinion such weapons are not the discussion. it's the automatics or those with large clips. What on earth do you need these for in your homes?

For those of you who don't like the idea that "guns kill people" I would suggest that it's exactly the case. Yes, people use the guns to kill people, but if someone has a semi-automatic weapon vs. a single-shot weapon or non-automatic, you tell me how that person is not better able to commit mass crimes. Don't you, in your private gun-clutching hearts believe that someone with an automatic is able to kill more people in less time simply BECAUSE THEY CAN? Don't you also believe that if those weapons were not available, the number of victims would be lower? MUCH lower?

It's a complete embarrassment that this country has 100's of millions of guns floating around in the population. It will take years to reverse this, but I completely agree with the OP that at least for some weapons, his suggestion is worth considering.