Bad time to start a civil war while we are starting WW3 look at the number of Vets we have after 30 years of war

check this out

[link to www.uiowa.edu]

"How large is it the agency? How many people does it employee? How many dollars? What is the ratio of the two?
The Department of Homeland Security is truly massive it employees upward of 180,000-plus employees not to mention the servicemen and women of the U.S. Coast Guard and the Secret Service. The budget for fiscal year 2005 was 40.7 billion dollars.) That’s approximately $1,933,333.33 spent to represent per employee. (RATIO) Use 180,000+30,000= 210,000 employees dived by 40.6 Billion dollars is approximately $1,933,333.33 spent per employee."

look at there budget per person WTF

how the hell do u spend $1,933,333.33 spent per employee."
wtf?

so DHS spends more money on training that we do a US soldier wtf

[link to security.blogs.cnn.com]


05:50 PM ET
"One soldier, one year: $850,000 and rising
By Larry Shaughnessy

Keeping one American service member in Afghanistan costs between $850,000 and $1.4 million a year, depending on who you ask. But one matter is clear, that cost is going up."

[link to wiki.answers.com]

"There are as of 2006, 683,396 full time state, city, university and college, metropolitan and non-metropolitan county, and other law enforcement officers in the United States. There are approx. 120,000 full time law enforcement personnel working for the federal government adding up to a total number of 800,000 law enforcement personnel in the U.S."

How many armed citizens are they?

300 millions if you spread the handguns around evenly

and nato can be called in to help since the treaty was signed correct DHs bought 1.2 billion rounds of .223 hollow point bullets also correct?

You know..the usual..$50,000 for a hammer..$30.000 for a toilet seat..

do u think the VETS would stand to protect our freedoms?

Yep.

Give em enough geritol and theyd be good to go.

probably 75 percent of the vets in the usa watch football voted for romney or obama, shop at walmart, work in law enforcement or security, and believe what the tv tells them

so 25 percent will fight

i hope they are on our side
nato will be tough for us along with the millarty but how are going to do this while maybe fighting the russia iran syria and china at the sametime it would be a goodtime to invade and we have many enemies this all doesnt make since unless they want to USA wiped off the map

Ding! Ding!

The rabbit hole goes a lot deeper than most people think.

Sadly, I'd estimate 10-15% of the population would be willing/able to fight a tyrannical government if it came down to it.

So figure, 30-40 million people. Probably 3-5 million ex-military (ages 22-60), 15-20 million hunters/sportsman, and 10-15 million every day "Joes" that have basic gun range experience.

this is not looking good its scary as hell to think what a modern day civil war will look like here

do u thnk they will give us a chance turn in our guns or just launch a surprise raids on gun owners like they do with swat teams with the war on drugs?

Plus it's winter, can the revolution wait for warmer weather?

They would definitely give chances to turn in guns, but as soon as they announced it, they would start covert raids on "high profile targets."

look at all the jobs that big O will make disappear because of a gun ban

This is truly our last stand against tyranny and enslavement to a New world order. People need to get up off the couch turn off the tv and really think, ponder about what is about to happen to us and our once great country. I have 1 thing in common here and that is Freedom and not having our rights and freedoms stripped away from us day by day. I don't know where that line is drawn in the sand but I am sure I will know it when it happens. I hope that we don't get drawn into a gun grab but I am sure it is right around the corner and you need to decide if you want Freedom or ? Good luck with your most inner wisdom and decide what your freedom is worth. God Bless

obummer is trying to pad his stats