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We Are Endangering Our Children As The Price For Our Freedom, Barack Hussein Obama, Dec 16, 2012...

 
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Wouldn't a president have to be semi-retardedto say something like that?
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Or a Communist maybe? Or someone who hates America?

How about Obama giving the Muslim Brotherhood, radical Islamists who have vowed to bring about global Sharia law--
all those F-16 fighter jets? I think those planes will directly or indirectly endanger our children.
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Re: We Are Endangering Our Children As The Price For Our Freedom, Barack Hussein Obama, Dec 16, 2012...
In Gods name please dont give up your 2nd amendment rights without fighting tooth n claw first - dont end up like us Brits with a jackboot on our necks, unarmed and de-balled .

Ive always held onto the belief that the mere fact that the US citizenry are armed was the one thing holding her majesties NWO in check - if your guns go then nothing will stop a new trans atlantic british empire.

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don't worry mate

it won't happen without a war.
us Yanks were born with bullets
for teeth and brass balls for
courage ;)

it's a war they can't win.
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Wouldn't a president have to be semi-retardedto say something like that?
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Or a Communist maybe? Or someone who hates America?

How about Obama giving the Muslim Brotherhood, radical Islamists who have vowed to bring about global Sharia law--
all those F-16 fighter jets? I think those planes will directly or indirectly endanger our children.
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog


Well and it was the Obama admin that supplied over 2000 assault weapons to the Mexican Drug Cartels...wonder how many kids died because of that little hiccup...

The Obama Admin has ZERO credibility on this issue...and most other's...

Last Edited by Saddletramp on 12/18/2012 08:28 PM
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Re: We Are Endangering Our Children As The Price For Our Freedom, Barack Hussein Obama, Dec 16, 2012...
The price of our freedom is the price of supplying free guns and firearms training for all teachers and educational staff.
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Well and it was the Obama admin that supplied over 2000 assault weapons to the Mexican Drug Cartels...wonder how many kids died because of that little hiccup...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


that lil deal was planned as a
continuity of government (COG)
option for the cartels to act as
law enforcement in the us when
the SHTF scenario.

The US also sent the Cartels
over 200 Armored Personnel Carriers
(APC's) for the same purpose.

this is why Fast and Furious will never
be tried in a US Court because it
would reveal plans for Mexican Cartels
to come to the aid of the US Gov
if it should be attacked by it's citizens.

but keep this intel quiet

Barry don't want you to know this.
ssssshhhhhhh
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Well and it was the Obama admin that supplied over 2000 assault weapons to the Mexican Drug Cartels...wonder how many kids died because of that little hiccup...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


that lil deal was planned as a
continuity of government (COG)
option for the cartels to act as
law enforcement in the us when
the SHTF scenario.

The US also sent the Cartels
over 200 Armored Personnel Carriers
(APC's) for the same purpose.

this is why Fast and Furious will never
be tried in a US Court because it
would reveal plans for Mexican Cartels
to come to the aid of the US Gov
if it should be attacked by it's citizens.

but keep this intel quiet

Barry don't want you to know this.
ssssshhhhhhh
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7033199


the chess pieces are already in place
for a southern invasion of Texas by
the Cartels when Obammy calls for it.

The Cartels have all this equipment stored
in an underground bunker not 20 miles from
the Texas border.
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Re: We Are Endangering Our Children As The Price For Our Freedom, Barack Hussein Obama, Dec 16, 2012...
Well and it was the Obama admin that supplied over 2000 assault weapons to the Mexican Drug Cartels...wonder how many kids died because of that little hiccup...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


that lil deal was planned as a
continuity of government (COG)
option for the cartels to act as
law enforcement in the us when
the SHTF scenario.

The US also sent the Cartels
over 200 Armored Personnel Carriers
(APC's) for the same purpose.

this is why Fast and Furious will never
be tried in a US Court because it
would reveal plans for Mexican Cartels
to come to the aid of the US Gov
if it should be attacked by it's citizens.

but keep this intel quiet

Barry don't want you to know this.
ssssshhhhhhh
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7033199


the chess pieces are already in place
for a southern invasion of Texas by
the Cartels when Obammy calls for it.

The Cartels have all this equipment stored
in an underground bunker not 20 miles from
the Texas border.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7033199


They may find it tougher sledding than they think coming up through Texas...

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Re: We Are Endangering Our Children As The Price For Our Freedom, Barack Hussein Obama, Dec 16, 2012...
Well and it was the Obama admin that supplied over 2000 assault weapons to the Mexican Drug Cartels...wonder how many kids died because of that little hiccup...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


that lil deal was planned as a
continuity of government (COG)
option for the cartels to act as
law enforcement in the us when
the SHTF scenario.

The US also sent the Cartels
over 200 Armored Personnel Carriers
(APC's) for the same purpose.

this is why Fast and Furious will never
be tried in a US Court because it
would reveal plans for Mexican Cartels
to come to the aid of the US Gov
if it should be attacked by it's citizens.

but keep this intel quiet

Barry don't want you to know this.
ssssshhhhhhh
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7033199


Holy shit!!! Would you please start a thread on that?
"Who decides?"
---Robert A. Heinlein

[link to www.westcoasttruth.com]

"Do Not Go Gentle into that Good Night.....Rage, rage against the dying of the light"
----Dylan Thomas
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Re: We Are Endangering Our Children As The Price For Our Freedom, Barack Hussein Obama, Dec 16, 2012...
They may find it tougher sledding than they think coming up through Texas...

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 Quoting: Saddletramp

9 mm will bounce off
5.56 will bounce off

only 5 things stops APC's

bombs or tank heavy projectiles
fire
armor piercing 50 Cal
no gas or parts
propaganda psy-ops
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Holy shit!!! Would you please start a thread on that?
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog


there are already threads on GLP
about it

just do a search and you will find them
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Anybody talking gun control is a traitor to the republic
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Re: We Are Endangering Our Children As The Price For Our Freedom, Barack Hussein Obama, Dec 16, 2012...
They may find it tougher sledding than they think coming up through Texas...

macgun
 Quoting: Saddletramp

9 mm will bounce off
5.56 will bounce off

only 5 things stops APC's

bombs or tank heavy projectiles
fire
armor piercing 50 Cal
no gas or parts
propaganda psy-ops
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7033199


Or dig a pit in the road and cover it over...it's called a tiger trap, stopped whole divisions of German tanks during WWII...
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"Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..."
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Re: We Are Endangering Our Children As The Price For Our Freedom, Barack Hussein Obama, Dec 16, 2012...
Well and it was the Obama admin that supplied over 2000 assault weapons to the Mexican Drug Cartels...wonder how many kids died because of that little hiccup...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


that lil deal was planned as a
continuity of government (COG)
option for the cartels to act as
law enforcement in the us when
the SHTF scenario.

The US also sent the Cartels
over 200 Armored Personnel Carriers
(APC's) for the same purpose.

this is why Fast and Furious will never
be tried in a US Court because it
would reveal plans for Mexican Cartels
to come to the aid of the US Gov
if it should be attacked by it's citizens.

but keep this intel quiet

Barry don't want you to know this.
ssssshhhhhhh
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7033199


Holy shit!!! Would you please start a thread on that?
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog


Thread: Obama Kills Kids With Drones All The Time, Gave 2000 Assault Weapons To Mexican Drug Cartels, Gave 20 F16's To The Muslim Brotherhood, but...
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Re: We Are Endangering Our Children As The Price For Our Freedom, Barack Hussein Obama, Dec 16, 2012...
Or dig a pit in the road and cover it over...it's called a tiger trap, stopped whole divisions of German tanks during WWII...
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APC's hold 8-12 troops in them.
12 people can push, pull or wench
an APC out of a trench providing
they are not under enemy fire
at the time. So the trench would
only be temporary. I was discussing
permanent strategies.
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Re: We Are Endangering Our Children As The Price For Our Freedom, Barack Hussein Obama, Dec 16, 2012...
pseudo pres hussein obongo IS a communistf*ckwit, and IS a muzzief*ckwit his actions show that.
Wouldn't a president have to be semi-retardedto say something like that?
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Or a Communist maybe? Or someone who hates America?

How about Obama giving the Muslim Brotherhood, radical Islamists who have vowed to bring about global Sharia law--
all those F-16 fighter jets? I think those planes will directly or indirectly endanger our children.
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog

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This is the turning point
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I wonder how many times I have seen this posted on GLP?
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Re: We Are Endangering Our Children As The Price For Our Freedom, Barack Hussein Obama, Dec 16, 2012...
Damn, another out of context quote slippery slope thread.

The anti gun lobby has been waiting for an excuse to disarm Americans. IMO, if there had been armed, trained personnel at this school, then maybe some lives could have been saved. We have made too many places gun-free zones. All this has done, is to take the means of protection away from the law abiding citizens, to ensure the criminals have no resistance.
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Yeah, cause they would have totally stood a chance against a surprise attack by a man with assault rifles and body armor, and there is no way that innocents and children would have been caught up in the cross-fire.

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I doubt if anyone would have loudly crashed into a school, and went after some children; if 20,30, or more teachers/administrators had been armed in the first place! He/they would have found a soft target instead!
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Yeah, because the threat of well-armed and well-trained law enforcement worked so well to stop him. I'm sure some school teacher or principal with a tiny little handgun and the bare minimum amount of training would have been so much more of a deterrent.

Or are you suggesting that we turn all of them into paramilitary commandos? Why not just do that with the police instead?
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Re: We Are Endangering Our Children As The Price For Our Freedom, Barack Hussein Obama, Dec 16, 2012...
Damn, another out of context quote slippery slope thread.

The anti gun lobby has been waiting for an excuse to disarm Americans. IMO, if there had been armed, trained personnel at this school, then maybe some lives could have been saved. We have made too many places gun-free zones. All this has done, is to take the means of protection away from the law abiding citizens, to ensure the criminals have no resistance.
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Yeah, cause they would have totally stood a chance against a surprise attack by a man with assault rifles and body armor, and there is no way that innocents and children would have been caught up in the cross-fire.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9664906
I doubt if anyone would have loudly crashed into a school, and went after some children; if 20,30, or more teachers/administrators had been armed in the first place! He/they would have found a soft target instead!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


Yeah, because the threat of well-armed and well-trained law enforcement worked so well to stop him. I'm sure some school teacher or principal with a tiny little handgun and the bare minimum amount of training would have been so much more of a deterrent.

Or are you suggesting that we turn all of them into paramilitary commandos? Why not just do that with the police instead?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9664906


I don't know, the shooter at the Portland Mall was taken out by a citizen with a gun...
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Dumb monkey vocalizations...
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Haha they always get what they want, even if it means killing children, or even babies for that matter, ego is a scary thing~.
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A president with balls would tell us to arm ourselves and fuck up the enemy.
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Damn, another out of context quote slippery slope thread.

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Yeah, cause they would have totally stood a chance against a surprise attack by a man with assault rifles and body armor, and there is no way that innocents and children would have been caught up in the cross-fire.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9664906
I doubt if anyone would have loudly crashed into a school, and went after some children; if 20,30, or more teachers/administrators had been armed in the first place! He/they would have found a soft target instead!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


Yeah, because the threat of well-armed and well-trained law enforcement worked so well to stop him. I'm sure some school teacher or principal with a tiny little handgun and the bare minimum amount of training would have been so much more of a deterrent.

Or are you suggesting that we turn all of them into paramilitary commandos? Why not just do that with the police instead?
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I don't know, the shooter at the Portland Mall was taken out by a citizen with a gun...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Yup, right after the shooter killed two people and turned his gun on himself... Oh yeah, he was totally stopped by a citizen with a gun.

But let's pretend you are right. WOOHOO. One person stopped by a citizen with a gun. FINALLY carrying a gun has worked for ONE person among the 3 million cases of a "self-defense" weapon not being used in self-defense a year. Aaaaand I am not even talking about the illegal gun use in this country by actual criminals, I mean just the cases where "responsible gun owners" use their lawfully owned and registered weapons to threaten, intimidate, harass or hurt others.

But yeah. Good thing that Portland Mall shooter didn't try and open fire on a crowd in a shopping mall or kill two people because he was afraid of other people who are carrying guns.... wait, that's exactly what he did. Not a single one of the CCWs at that mall stopped him from killing two people, did they?

I'm all for gun ownership. I love hunting too, but people are deluding themselves when they think that a killing tool in the hands of the average person protects anyone.
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I doubt if anyone would have loudly crashed into a school, and went after some children; if 20,30, or more teachers/administrators had been armed in the first place! He/they would have found a soft target instead!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


Yeah, because the threat of well-armed and well-trained law enforcement worked so well to stop him. I'm sure some school teacher or principal with a tiny little handgun and the bare minimum amount of training would have been so much more of a deterrent.

Or are you suggesting that we turn all of them into paramilitary commandos? Why not just do that with the police instead?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9664906


I don't know, the shooter at the Portland Mall was taken out by a citizen with a gun...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Yup, right after the shooter killed two people and turned his gun on himself... Oh yeah, he was totally stopped by a citizen with a gun.

But let's pretend you are right. WOOHOO. One person stopped by a citizen with a gun. FINALLY carrying a gun has worked for ONE person among the 3 million cases of a "self-defense" weapon not being used in self-defense a year. Aaaaand I am not even talking about the illegal gun use in this country by actual criminals, I mean just the cases where "responsible gun owners" use their lawfully owned and registered weapons to threaten, intimidate, harass or hurt others.

But yeah. Good thing that Portland Mall shooter didn't try and open fire on a crowd in a shopping mall or kill two people because he was afraid of other people who are carrying guns.... wait, that's exactly what he did. Not a single one of the CCWs at that mall stopped him from killing two people, did they?

I'm all for gun ownership. I love hunting too, but people are deluding themselves when they think that a killing tool in the hands of the average person protects anyone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9664906


12 Year Old Girl Shoots Intruder During Home Invasion...
[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

13 Year Old Boy Shoots Intruder During Burglary...
[link to usatoday30.usatoday.com]

I could go on and on...but what's the point really...

Last Edited by Saddletramp on 12/19/2012 12:24 AM
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Yeah, because the threat of well-armed and well-trained law enforcement worked so well to stop him. I'm sure some school teacher or principal with a tiny little handgun and the bare minimum amount of training would have been so much more of a deterrent.

Or are you suggesting that we turn all of them into paramilitary commandos? Why not just do that with the police instead?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9664906


I don't know, the shooter at the Portland Mall was taken out by a citizen with a gun...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Yup, right after the shooter killed two people and turned his gun on himself... Oh yeah, he was totally stopped by a citizen with a gun.

But let's pretend you are right. WOOHOO. One person stopped by a citizen with a gun. FINALLY carrying a gun has worked for ONE person among the 3 million cases of a "self-defense" weapon not being used in self-defense a year. Aaaaand I am not even talking about the illegal gun use in this country by actual criminals, I mean just the cases where "responsible gun owners" use their lawfully owned and registered weapons to threaten, intimidate, harass or hurt others.

But yeah. Good thing that Portland Mall shooter didn't try and open fire on a crowd in a shopping mall or kill two people because he was afraid of other people who are carrying guns.... wait, that's exactly what he did. Not a single one of the CCWs at that mall stopped him from killing two people, did they?

I'm all for gun ownership. I love hunting too, but people are deluding themselves when they think that a killing tool in the hands of the average person protects anyone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9664906


12 Year Old Girl Shoots Intruder During Home Invasion...
[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

13 Year Old Boy Shoots Intruder During Burglary...
[link to usatoday30.usatoday.com]

I could go on and on...but what's the point really...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Hey, sometimes it happens that a gun for self-defense actually works... but that is in the EXTREME minority of the cases in which a "self-defense" weapon is drawn.
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Besides, I've got nothing against gun ownership. Just delusional people.
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Re: We Are Endangering Our Children As The Price For Our Freedom, Barack Hussein Obama, Dec 16, 2012...
Also, you'll note that those guns aren't preventing the crimes, which was my original point. These kinds of psychos may be really messed up in the head, but they are also usually fairly smart, and they spend MONTHS planning these things. That is more than enough time for them to convince themselves they have overcome any opposition, just as this guy convinced himself that he would be able to accomplish his goal without police being able to stop him.
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Also, you'll note that those guns aren't preventing the crimes, which was my original point. These kinds of psychos may be really messed up in the head, but they are also usually fairly smart, and they spend MONTHS planning these things. That is more than enough time for them to convince themselves they have overcome any opposition, just as this guy convinced himself that he would be able to accomplish his goal without police being able to stop him.
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If those guns aren't preventing crime, then how come per capita violent crime statistics are exponentially lower in states that have concealed carry laws?!?!?

Last Edited by Saddletramp on 12/19/2012 01:02 AM
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