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Ralph--a house dog User ID: 25802009 United States 12/18/2012 08:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: We Are Endangering Our Children As The Price For Our Freedom, Barack Hussein Obama, Dec 16, 2012... Wouldn't a president have to be semi-retardedto say something like that? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26646277 Or a Communist maybe? Or someone who hates America? How about Obama giving the Muslim Brotherhood, radical Islamists who have vowed to bring about global Sharia law-- all those F-16 fighter jets? I think those planes will directly or indirectly endanger our children. "Do Not Go Gentle into that Good Night.....Rage, rage against the dying of the light"-----Dylan Thomas HIS NAME IS SETH RICH [link to biblicalselfdefense.com] [link to forum.1111ers.blog] Always remember that "for the greater good" will not include YOU. "Who decides?" ---Robert A. Heinlein -'Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.'—Benjamin Franklin [link to www.westcoasttruth.com] The only thing worth paying full retail for is pantyhose. You cannot do all of the good the world needs, but the world needs all of the good you can do. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7033199 United States 12/18/2012 08:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: We Are Endangering Our Children As The Price For Our Freedom, Barack Hussein Obama, Dec 16, 2012... In Gods name please dont give up your 2nd amendment rights without fighting tooth n claw first - dont end up like us Brits with a jackboot on our necks, unarmed and de-balled . Quoting: Masamune1969 30147101 Ive always held onto the belief that the mere fact that the US citizenry are armed was the one thing holding her majesties NWO in check - if your guns go then nothing will stop a new trans atlantic british empire. don't worry mate it won't happen without a war. us Yanks were born with bullets for teeth and brass balls for courage ;) it's a war they can't win. |
Saddletramp (OP) User ID: 726900 Puerto Rico 12/18/2012 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: We Are Endangering Our Children As The Price For Our Freedom, Barack Hussein Obama, Dec 16, 2012... Wouldn't a president have to be semi-retardedto say something like that? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26646277 Or a Communist maybe? Or someone who hates America? How about Obama giving the Muslim Brotherhood, radical Islamists who have vowed to bring about global Sharia law-- all those F-16 fighter jets? I think those planes will directly or indirectly endanger our children. Well and it was the Obama admin that supplied over 2000 assault weapons to the Mexican Drug Cartels...wonder how many kids died because of that little hiccup... The Obama Admin has ZERO credibility on this issue...and most other's... Last Edited by Saddletramp on 12/18/2012 08:28 PM "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 7033199 United States 12/18/2012 08:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: We Are Endangering Our Children As The Price For Our Freedom, Barack Hussein Obama, Dec 16, 2012... Well and it was the Obama admin that supplied over 2000 assault weapons to the Mexican Drug Cartels...wonder how many kids died because of that little hiccup... Quoting: Saddletramp that lil deal was planned as a continuity of government (COG) option for the cartels to act as law enforcement in the us when the SHTF scenario. The US also sent the Cartels over 200 Armored Personnel Carriers (APC's) for the same purpose. this is why Fast and Furious will never be tried in a US Court because it would reveal plans for Mexican Cartels to come to the aid of the US Gov if it should be attacked by it's citizens. but keep this intel quiet Barry don't want you to know this. ssssshhhhhhh |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7033199 United States 12/18/2012 08:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: We Are Endangering Our Children As The Price For Our Freedom, Barack Hussein Obama, Dec 16, 2012... Well and it was the Obama admin that supplied over 2000 assault weapons to the Mexican Drug Cartels...wonder how many kids died because of that little hiccup... Quoting: Saddletramp that lil deal was planned as a continuity of government (COG) option for the cartels to act as law enforcement in the us when the SHTF scenario. The US also sent the Cartels over 200 Armored Personnel Carriers (APC's) for the same purpose. this is why Fast and Furious will never be tried in a US Court because it would reveal plans for Mexican Cartels to come to the aid of the US Gov if it should be attacked by it's citizens. but keep this intel quiet Barry don't want you to know this. ssssshhhhhhh the chess pieces are already in place for a southern invasion of Texas by the Cartels when Obammy calls for it. The Cartels have all this equipment stored in an underground bunker not 20 miles from the Texas border. |
Saddletramp (OP) User ID: 726900 Puerto Rico 12/18/2012 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: We Are Endangering Our Children As The Price For Our Freedom, Barack Hussein Obama, Dec 16, 2012... Well and it was the Obama admin that supplied over 2000 assault weapons to the Mexican Drug Cartels...wonder how many kids died because of that little hiccup... Quoting: Saddletramp that lil deal was planned as a continuity of government (COG) option for the cartels to act as law enforcement in the us when the SHTF scenario. The US also sent the Cartels over 200 Armored Personnel Carriers (APC's) for the same purpose. this is why Fast and Furious will never be tried in a US Court because it would reveal plans for Mexican Cartels to come to the aid of the US Gov if it should be attacked by it's citizens. but keep this intel quiet Barry don't want you to know this. ssssshhhhhhh the chess pieces are already in place for a southern invasion of Texas by the Cartels when Obammy calls for it. The Cartels have all this equipment stored in an underground bunker not 20 miles from the Texas border. They may find it tougher sledding than they think coming up through Texas... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
Ralph--a house dog User ID: 25802009 United States 12/18/2012 08:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: We Are Endangering Our Children As The Price For Our Freedom, Barack Hussein Obama, Dec 16, 2012... Well and it was the Obama admin that supplied over 2000 assault weapons to the Mexican Drug Cartels...wonder how many kids died because of that little hiccup... Quoting: Saddletramp that lil deal was planned as a continuity of government (COG) option for the cartels to act as law enforcement in the us when the SHTF scenario. The US also sent the Cartels over 200 Armored Personnel Carriers (APC's) for the same purpose. this is why Fast and Furious will never be tried in a US Court because it would reveal plans for Mexican Cartels to come to the aid of the US Gov if it should be attacked by it's citizens. but keep this intel quiet Barry don't want you to know this. ssssshhhhhhh Holy shit!!! Would you please start a thread on that? "Do Not Go Gentle into that Good Night.....Rage, rage against the dying of the light"-----Dylan Thomas HIS NAME IS SETH RICH [link to biblicalselfdefense.com] [link to forum.1111ers.blog] Always remember that "for the greater good" will not include YOU. "Who decides?" ---Robert A. Heinlein -'Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.'—Benjamin Franklin [link to www.westcoasttruth.com] The only thing worth paying full retail for is pantyhose. You cannot do all of the good the world needs, but the world needs all of the good you can do. |
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Saddletramp (OP) User ID: 726900 Puerto Rico 12/18/2012 09:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: We Are Endangering Our Children As The Price For Our Freedom, Barack Hussein Obama, Dec 16, 2012... 9 mm will bounce off 5.56 will bounce off only 5 things stops APC's bombs or tank heavy projectiles fire armor piercing 50 Cal no gas or parts propaganda psy-ops Or dig a pit in the road and cover it over...it's called a tiger trap, stopped whole divisions of German tanks during WWII... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
Saddletramp (OP) User ID: 726900 Puerto Rico 12/18/2012 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: We Are Endangering Our Children As The Price For Our Freedom, Barack Hussein Obama, Dec 16, 2012... Well and it was the Obama admin that supplied over 2000 assault weapons to the Mexican Drug Cartels...wonder how many kids died because of that little hiccup... Quoting: Saddletramp that lil deal was planned as a continuity of government (COG) option for the cartels to act as law enforcement in the us when the SHTF scenario. The US also sent the Cartels over 200 Armored Personnel Carriers (APC's) for the same purpose. this is why Fast and Furious will never be tried in a US Court because it would reveal plans for Mexican Cartels to come to the aid of the US Gov if it should be attacked by it's citizens. but keep this intel quiet Barry don't want you to know this. ssssshhhhhhh Holy shit!!! Would you please start a thread on that? Thread: Obama Kills Kids With Drones All The Time, Gave 2000 Assault Weapons To Mexican Drug Cartels, Gave 20 F16's To The Muslim Brotherhood, but... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7033199 United States 12/18/2012 09:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: We Are Endangering Our Children As The Price For Our Freedom, Barack Hussein Obama, Dec 16, 2012... Or dig a pit in the road and cover it over...it's called a tiger trap, stopped whole divisions of German tanks during WWII... Quoting: Saddletramp APC's hold 8-12 troops in them. 12 people can push, pull or wench an APC out of a trench providing they are not under enemy fire at the time. So the trench would only be temporary. I was discussing permanent strategies. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 9664906 United States 12/18/2012 10:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: We Are Endangering Our Children As The Price For Our Freedom, Barack Hussein Obama, Dec 16, 2012... Damn, another out of context quote slippery slope thread. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9664906 The anti gun lobby has been waiting for an excuse to disarm Americans. IMO, if there had been armed, trained personnel at this school, then maybe some lives could have been saved. We have made too many places gun-free zones. All this has done, is to take the means of protection away from the law abiding citizens, to ensure the criminals have no resistance. Quoting: tiger1 Yeah, cause they would have totally stood a chance against a surprise attack by a man with assault rifles and body armor, and there is no way that innocents and children would have been caught up in the cross-fire. Yeah, because the threat of well-armed and well-trained law enforcement worked so well to stop him. I'm sure some school teacher or principal with a tiny little handgun and the bare minimum amount of training would have been so much more of a deterrent. Or are you suggesting that we turn all of them into paramilitary commandos? Why not just do that with the police instead? |
Saddletramp (OP) User ID: 726900 Puerto Rico 12/18/2012 11:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: We Are Endangering Our Children As The Price For Our Freedom, Barack Hussein Obama, Dec 16, 2012... Damn, another out of context quote slippery slope thread. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9664906 The anti gun lobby has been waiting for an excuse to disarm Americans. IMO, if there had been armed, trained personnel at this school, then maybe some lives could have been saved. We have made too many places gun-free zones. All this has done, is to take the means of protection away from the law abiding citizens, to ensure the criminals have no resistance. Quoting: tiger1 Yeah, cause they would have totally stood a chance against a surprise attack by a man with assault rifles and body armor, and there is no way that innocents and children would have been caught up in the cross-fire. Yeah, because the threat of well-armed and well-trained law enforcement worked so well to stop him. I'm sure some school teacher or principal with a tiny little handgun and the bare minimum amount of training would have been so much more of a deterrent. Or are you suggesting that we turn all of them into paramilitary commandos? Why not just do that with the police instead? I don't know, the shooter at the Portland Mall was taken out by a citizen with a gun... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 9664906 United States 12/18/2012 11:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: We Are Endangering Our Children As The Price For Our Freedom, Barack Hussein Obama, Dec 16, 2012... Damn, another out of context quote slippery slope thread. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9664906 ... Yeah, cause they would have totally stood a chance against a surprise attack by a man with assault rifles and body armor, and there is no way that innocents and children would have been caught up in the cross-fire. Yeah, because the threat of well-armed and well-trained law enforcement worked so well to stop him. I'm sure some school teacher or principal with a tiny little handgun and the bare minimum amount of training would have been so much more of a deterrent. Or are you suggesting that we turn all of them into paramilitary commandos? Why not just do that with the police instead? I don't know, the shooter at the Portland Mall was taken out by a citizen with a gun... Yup, right after the shooter killed two people and turned his gun on himself... Oh yeah, he was totally stopped by a citizen with a gun. But let's pretend you are right. WOOHOO. One person stopped by a citizen with a gun. FINALLY carrying a gun has worked for ONE person among the 3 million cases of a "self-defense" weapon not being used in self-defense a year. Aaaaand I am not even talking about the illegal gun use in this country by actual criminals, I mean just the cases where "responsible gun owners" use their lawfully owned and registered weapons to threaten, intimidate, harass or hurt others. But yeah. Good thing that Portland Mall shooter didn't try and open fire on a crowd in a shopping mall or kill two people because he was afraid of other people who are carrying guns.... wait, that's exactly what he did. Not a single one of the CCWs at that mall stopped him from killing two people, did they? I'm all for gun ownership. I love hunting too, but people are deluding themselves when they think that a killing tool in the hands of the average person protects anyone. |
Saddletramp (OP) User ID: 726900 Puerto Rico 12/19/2012 12:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: We Are Endangering Our Children As The Price For Our Freedom, Barack Hussein Obama, Dec 16, 2012... Thread: Obama Kills Kids With Drones All The Time, Gave 2000 Assault Weapons To Mexican Drug Cartels, Gave 20 F16's To The Muslim Brotherhood, but... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 9664906 United States 12/19/2012 12:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: We Are Endangering Our Children As The Price For Our Freedom, Barack Hussein Obama, Dec 16, 2012... Also, you'll note that those guns aren't preventing the crimes, which was my original point. These kinds of psychos may be really messed up in the head, but they are also usually fairly smart, and they spend MONTHS planning these things. That is more than enough time for them to convince themselves they have overcome any opposition, just as this guy convinced himself that he would be able to accomplish his goal without police being able to stop him. |
Saddletramp (OP) User ID: 726900 Puerto Rico 12/19/2012 01:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: We Are Endangering Our Children As The Price For Our Freedom, Barack Hussein Obama, Dec 16, 2012... Also, you'll note that those guns aren't preventing the crimes, which was my original point. These kinds of psychos may be really messed up in the head, but they are also usually fairly smart, and they spend MONTHS planning these things. That is more than enough time for them to convince themselves they have overcome any opposition, just as this guy convinced himself that he would be able to accomplish his goal without police being able to stop him. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9664906 If those guns aren't preventing crime, then how come per capita violent crime statistics are exponentially lower in states that have concealed carry laws?!?!? Last Edited by Saddletramp on 12/19/2012 01:02 AM "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |