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Do YOU BELIEVE IT IS AN ACCIDENT THAT THE STORIES ARE NEVER BELIEVABLE?

 
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Do YOU BELIEVE IT IS AN ACCIDENT THAT THE STORIES ARE NEVER BELIEVABLE?
Every time there is an event like this the immediate response from the conspiracy crowd is that this is staged or capitalized on in an effort to control guns.

This is a completely ridiculous theory. It is not in any way rational or believable. Yet it is trotted out every single time there is a shooting. Look at the actual statistics regarding guns below. There is absolutely NO WAY that the government or anyone else could possibly gather up the hundreds of millions of guns in the United States and forbid US citizens from having them.
It's ludicrous. It would NEVER happen. It could NEVER be enforceable. Repeating this assinine theory just demonstrates sheer stupidity.

U.S. citizens own 270 million known firearms, according to the Small Arms Survey 2007 by the Geneva-based Graduate Institute of International Studies. It is estimated that only 12 percent of civilian weapons are registered.

Now, just look at the incredibly contradictory information regarding this shooting that has been made available to the public in the past 48 hours.

This is a list of all information available right here:

His name is Ryan Lanza age 20. His name is Adam Lanza age 20. Ryan Lanza is now 24 and the brother of shooter. No explanation about why he was allegedly carrying his brother's ID, who he allegedly hasn't seen since 2010.
No explanation of why he was identified as being 20 years old both as Ryan and as Adam.

He went to his mother's classroom, a teacher at the school, and shot her and her class.

He shot his mother at home.
His mother is a teacher at the school.
His mother is a classroom aide at the school.
His mother is a substitute teacher at the school.
His mother is completely unaffiliated with the school.

His mother is a survivalist...as explanation for why a middle aged, wealthy, Connecticut matron would own so many high powered weapons; especially in light of the fact that her son allegedly has mental problems and she lives alone with him.

They found the rifle in the trunk of the car.
Eveyone was killed with multiple shots at close range with the rifle (the one in the trunk of the car).

Adam Lanza is retarded.
Adam Lanza is a genius.
Adam Lanza has a personality disorder.
Adam Lanza is autistic.
Adam Lanza is a Goth.
Adam Lanza is in the Technology Club.
Adam Lanza is quiet.
Adam Lanza is rambunctious.

Adam Lanza left information about motive.
Adam Lanza left no information about motive:
Asked at a news conference whether Lanza had left any emails or other writings that might explain the rampage, state police Lt. Paul Vance said investigators had found "very good evidence" and hoped it would answer questions about the gunman's motives. Vance would not elaborate.
However, another law enforcement official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said that investigators have found no note or manifesto of the sort they have come to expect after murderous rampages.
[link to news.yahoo.com]

Adam Lanza has a girlfriend that can not be located.

There are reports of multiple shooters from one up to four.

Then the truly crazy personal stories:

Man claims his six year old rounded up his buddies and escorted them out of classroom during shooting and saved their lives.

Teacher sequestered with students responds to a little plantive cry, "I want to be home for Christmas" with the ever politically correct, while staring into the maw of death response: "and for Hanukkah."

Once again, you can not make this stuff up people.

You can't make it up.

Every single thing written here has been reported.

Virtually every single solitary fact has an equal and opposite fact.

Isn't this always the way with these events.Look at Trayvon Martin.


Now think about this and come up with some OTHER theory than gun control as a motive.

Is it not true that the absolute number one fact that you can count on in all news events is that it is not credible?

It is NEVER CREDIBLE. NEVER. No matter what the story, local, national, global; it is just never credible.
Isn't that the one truth you can always count on?
Do you think that is an accident?

Don't you believe that if they wanted the story to be credible they could MAKE it be credible?

They could. They absolutely could.

They DON'T WANT IT TO BE BELIEVABLE. They make it intentionally SELF-CONTRADICTORY AND COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS.

They want people to sit around and poke holes in all the contradictions, ambiguities, misinformation, preposterous recollections.



This is what the goal is: They don't want you to ever believe anything. If you give up on ever knowing anything, even with a tiny degree of certainty, they can pretty much claim anything they want and it won't ever matter.

It's the boy who cried wolf conspiracy...pretty soon people just completely dispair of ever knowing anything for certain. Then they disengage. Then the people in power can do anything they want without ever having to explain or defend their actions.

In the old days they told plausible lies to keep the population compliant. Now they tell implausible lies about everything to make the population dispair.


That's it kids. They don't have to control guns. No one could get it together in order to do anything organized with all those guns anyway. They actually want as many useless eaters to kill each other off as are inclined to.


They don't want your guns. They want you to believe that they want your guns because then maybe you won't realize how incredibly powerless you are, and how useless all those guns are except to play into their plan for population reduction.



If I had to come up with a reason for this story, in addition to the above, I would guess it is because the small population that remains is in very bad economic times.

It's Christmas. Few people have jobs. Many people have lost homes, and personal security. They have nothing for their kids. They have no tree, no decorations. They have no money for presents, and the religious meaning of the Holiday has been systematically ripped away from them.
They are scattered all across the country far from home and extended family. They have no money to travel.


So let's stage a really horrendous tale of kids being murdered, and maybe people will feel less depressed and upset about their own situation, after all "at least no one died, look at those poor people."

So the story serves multiple functions, but those functions all serve the people in power. They serve to direct the emotions and control the behavior of remaining population to the advantage of those in power.
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Someone rated this 5 stars.


So someone else must have just rated it one star.


Why would you rate this one star without even a comment.


Is that a personal vendetta?


Is it an effort bury this thread because it doesn't fit in with the gun control agenda?


Why would these comments be rated one star?
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You do raise some salient points, but no cigar.

That last bit about the "Christmas function" is bullshit. There have been too many other "mass shootings" that didn't occur anywhere near a major holiday. This one fits right in with all the rest of 'em; it's not very different at all save for the relatively large number of child victims.

I do agree, however, that this is a distraction from other things. They always are.
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You do raise some salient points, but no cigar.

That last bit about the "Christmas function" is bullshit. There have been too many other "mass shootings" that didn't occur anywhere near a major holiday. This one fits right in with all the rest of 'em; it's not very different at all save for the relatively large number of child victims.

I do agree, however, that this is a distraction from other things. They always are.
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Yea, you must be right. After all, it isn't the Christmas Season in a horrible economy.
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I gave you 5 stars op just because you are thinking outside the box.
I do believe that tptb 'feed' off of emotions and they create/manipulate events to generate heightened emotions (eg: fear, sadness, anger etc.)
If they have other, multiple agendas, then that is just a bonus.
To keep people thinking that the government wants to confiscate guns, will keep people in fear....and also increasing gun sales.
War runs the global economy.
We are shifting into an of peace.
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The last thing that the 'authorities' want is for their herd to stop believing in them, looking to them for answers, coming to them for security and protection, and who reject everything they and their PR machine put out there. The synthesis of the two opposite poles is to embrace Truth when it manifests through the negation of the LIE - embracing the ONE without number - diversity within a unified, open Whole - that cannot be tamed or ordered by any creature - and is not subject to 'votes'.

Their game is up - their reign was always a lie - and their power never was. This is becoming more evident day by day - no matter what events they stage as they go down the drain.
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How many mass shootings since Norway?

(Over the past one year and five months)


Count em up


Has this ever happened before?
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"In order to put public opinion into our hands we must bring it into a state of bewilderment by giving expression from all sides to so many contradictory opinions and for such length of time as will suffice to make the (Gentiles) lose their heads in the labyrinth and come to see that the best thing is to have no opinion of any kind in matters political, which is not given to the public to understand, because they are understood only by him who guides the public. This is the first secret."-

Protocols of the elders of Zion.
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

-- Dixon Diaz
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I gave you 5 stars op just because you are thinking outside the box.
I do believe that tptb 'feed' off of emotions and they create/manipulate events to generate heightened emotions (eg: fear, sadness, anger etc.)
If they have other, multiple agendas, then that is just a bonus.
To keep people thinking that the government wants to confiscate guns, will keep people in fear....and also increasing gun sales.
War runs the global economy.
We are shifting into an of peace.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26372742


You know, it isn't "thinking outside the box." It's really just thinking.

The constant propaganda every time there is a shooting about gun control just seems absolutely retarded to me as the motive for the event.

How would gun control ever actually be put into practice?

It couldn't be enforced. Plus, they would have to amend the Constitution with 2/3 majority in both houses and 3/4 of the states ratifying....never going to happen.

It's just silly diversionary talk that actually makes no sense.

The thing is, that they have systematically dismantled every single news story and mostly all historical events.

They have cast doubt on EVERYTHING that is of any consequence in history and in current events.

Why?

Obviously because if there is nothing that anyone can reliably believe, they can create reality to suit their agenda.
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I gave you 5 stars op just because you are thinking outside the box.
I do believe that tptb 'feed' off of emotions and they create/manipulate events to generate heightened emotions (eg: fear, sadness, anger etc.)
If they have other, multiple agendas, then that is just a bonus.
To keep people thinking that the government wants to confiscate guns, will keep people in fear....and also increasing gun sales.
War runs the global economy.
We are shifting into an of peace.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26372742


You know, it isn't "thinking outside the box." It's really just thinking.

The constant propaganda every time there is a shooting about gun control just seems absolutely retarded to me as the motive for the event.

How would gun control ever actually be put into practice?

It couldn't be enforced. Plus, they would have to amend the Constitution with 2/3 majority in both houses and 3/4 of the states ratifying....never going to happen.

It's just silly diversionary talk that actually makes no sense.

The thing is, that they have systematically dismantled every single news story and mostly all historical events.

They have cast doubt on EVERYTHING that is of any consequence in history and in current events.

Why?

Obviously because if there is nothing that anyone can reliably believe, they can create reality to suit their agenda.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27253156


Thread: A World Without the Second Amendment...

you might start reconsider your "opinion" that it can't be enforced.
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

-- Dixon Diaz
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"In order to put public opinion into our hands we must bring it into a state of bewilderment by giving expression from all sides to so many contradictory opinions and for such length of time as will suffice to make the (Gentiles) lose their heads in the labyrinth and come to see that the best thing is to have no opinion of any kind in matters political, which is not given to the public to understand, because they are understood only by him who guides the public. This is the first secret."-

Protocols of the elders of Zion.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren




Wow, I honestly did not read this, but it sure is EXACTLY what is happening. Exactly what they are doing.
Thank you.





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How many mass shootings since Norway?

(Over the past one year and five months)


Count em up


Has this ever happened before?
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They believe the population is really naive and foolish. Which most of it is. They take advantage of that. Most people believe what they are told on the "news". They bank on that. They only need a certain percent of the population to believe their lies.
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oops, I didn't mean to quote the above, I meant to reply.
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I gave you 5 stars op just because you are thinking outside the box.
I do believe that tptb 'feed' off of emotions and they create/manipulate events to generate heightened emotions (eg: fear, sadness, anger etc.)
If they have other, multiple agendas, then that is just a bonus.
To keep people thinking that the government wants to confiscate guns, will keep people in fear....and also increasing gun sales.
War runs the global economy.
We are shifting into an of peace.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26372742


You know, it isn't "thinking outside the box." It's really just thinking.

The constant propaganda every time there is a shooting about gun control just seems absolutely retarded to me as the motive for the event.

How would gun control ever actually be put into practice?

It couldn't be enforced. Plus, they would have to amend the Constitution with 2/3 majority in both houses and 3/4 of the states ratifying....never going to happen.

It's just silly diversionary talk that actually makes no sense.

The thing is, that they have systematically dismantled every single news story and mostly all historical events.

They have cast doubt on EVERYTHING that is of any consequence in history and in current events.

Why?

Obviously because if there is nothing that anyone can reliably believe, they can create reality to suit their agenda.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27253156


Thread: A World Without the Second Amendment...

you might start reconsider your "opinion" that it can't be enforced.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren



You might want to reconsider that only 12 percent of the guns in the US are legally registered, and that 12 percent still represents 270 million KNOWN firearms.
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"In order to put public opinion into our hands we must bring it into a state of bewilderment by giving expression from all sides to so many contradictory opinions and for such length of time as will suffice to make the (Gentiles) lose their heads in the labyrinth and come to see that the best thing is to have no opinion of any kind in matters political, which is not given to the public to understand, because they are understood only by him who guides the public. This is the first secret."-

Protocols of the elders of Zion.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren




Wow, I honestly did not read this, but it sure is EXACTLY what is happening. Exactly what they are doing.
Thank you.





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I gave you 5 stars op just because you are thinking outside the box.
I do believe that tptb 'feed' off of emotions and they create/manipulate events to generate heightened emotions (eg: fear, sadness, anger etc.)
If they have other, multiple agendas, then that is just a bonus.
To keep people thinking that the government wants to confiscate guns, will keep people in fear....and also increasing gun sales.
War runs the global economy.
We are shifting into an of peace.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26372742


You know, it isn't "thinking outside the box." It's really just thinking.

The constant propaganda every time there is a shooting about gun control just seems absolutely retarded to me as the motive for the event.

How would gun control ever actually be put into practice?

It couldn't be enforced. Plus, they would have to amend the Constitution with 2/3 majority in both houses and 3/4 of the states ratifying....never going to happen.

It's just silly diversionary talk that actually makes no sense.

The thing is, that they have systematically dismantled every single news story and mostly all historical events.

They have cast doubt on EVERYTHING that is of any consequence in history and in current events.

Why?

Obviously because if there is nothing that anyone can reliably believe, they can create reality to suit their agenda.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27253156


Thread: A World Without the Second Amendment...

you might start reconsider your "opinion" that it can't be enforced.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren



You might want to reconsider that only 12 percent of the guns in the US are legally registered, and that 12 percent still represents 270 million KNOWN firearms.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27253156


Don't ever underestimate the power of the elites to manipulate the sheeple.
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

-- Dixon Diaz
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You know, it isn't "thinking outside the box." It's really just thinking.

The constant propaganda every time there is a shooting about gun control just seems absolutely retarded to me as the motive for the event.

How would gun control ever actually be put into practice?

It couldn't be enforced. Plus, they would have to amend the Constitution with 2/3 majority in both houses and 3/4 of the states ratifying....never going to happen.

It's just silly diversionary talk that actually makes no sense.

The thing is, that they have systematically dismantled every single news story and mostly all historical events.

They have cast doubt on EVERYTHING that is of any consequence in history and in current events.

Why?

Obviously because if there is nothing that anyone can reliably believe, they can create reality to suit their agenda.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27253156


Thread: A World Without the Second Amendment...

you might start reconsider your "opinion" that it can't be enforced.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren



You might want to reconsider that only 12 percent of the guns in the US are legally registered, and that 12 percent still represents 270 million KNOWN firearms.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27253156


Don't ever underestimate the power of the elites to manipulate the sheeple.
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I mean we are on a "Conspiracy Site" right now, correct?
And, I can name at least 10 more right off the top of my head. Some allow interaction, some don't, but they all share the austensible goal of undermining the "official" version of just about everything. Am I right?

So the people frequenting a site like this and buying into the possibility that they are privy to some kind of "insider" information about any given topic is the height of manipulation, isn't it?

The people who bitch about the sheeple are the biggest patsies of all. They are the vectors that they can count on to spread the disease of doubt throughout the entire population.

Those who fancy themselves the GLP "awakened" ones, are actually the stooges who flock to the conspiracy sites. And, the conspiracy sites exist only to point out the
inconsitencies and improbabilities in every single story that exists.


WHICH IS THE ACTUAL AGENDA AND POINT OF ALL NEWS STORIES WHICH ALL SHARE ONE COMMON ELEMENT. THE ELEMENT OF IMPLAUSIBILITY.


Especially in light of the fact that the real purpose of the stories is to get as many people as possible to doubt their authenticity.
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The above accidentally posted before I could edit it make it more clear.

I mean we are on a "Conspiracy Site" right now, correct?
And, I can name at least 10 more right off the top of my head. Some allow interaction, some don't, but they all share the ostensible goal of undermining the "official" version of just about everything. Am I right?

The people that come to a site like this, those that need to buy into the possibility that they are privy to some kind of "inside" information about any given topic are the biggest sheeple of all. Aren't they?


The people who bitch about the sheeple are the biggest patsies. They are the vectors that TPTB can count on to spread the disease of doubt throughout the entire population about any given topic.


Those who fancy themselves the GLP "awakened" ones, are actually the stooges who flock to the sites that exist only to point out the inconsitencies and improbabilities in every single story that exists, every historical event, recent and remote.

THIS HAS BECOME THE ACTUAL POINT OF ALL NEWS STORIES. ALL NEWS STORIES SHARE ONE COMMOM ELEMENT, WHICH I HAVE ALREADY STATED. THE ELEMENT IS IMPLAUSIBILITY. THEY ARE INNATELY IMPLUASIBLE, AND THIS AND ALL CONSPIRACY SITES SIMPLY POINT OUT THE INCONSISTENCIES FOR THE DIMWITTED.
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The above accidentally posted before I could edit it make it more clear.

I mean we are on a "Conspiracy Site" right now, correct?
And, I can name at least 10 more right off the top of my head. Some allow interaction, some don't, but they all share the ostensible goal of undermining the "official" version of just about everything. Am I right?

The people that come to a site like this, those that need to buy into the possibility that they are privy to some kind of "inside" information about any given topic are the biggest sheeple of all. Aren't they?


The people who bitch about the sheeple are the biggest patsies. They are the vectors that TPTB can count on to spread the disease of doubt throughout the entire population about any given topic.


Those who fancy themselves the GLP "awakened" ones, are actually the stooges who flock to the sites that exist only to point out the inconsitencies and improbabilities in every single story that exists, every historical event, recent and remote.

THIS HAS BECOME THE ACTUAL POINT OF ALL NEWS STORIES. ALL NEWS STORIES SHARE ONE COMMOM ELEMENT, WHICH I HAVE ALREADY STATED. THE ELEMENT IS IMPLAUSIBILITY. THEY ARE INNATELY IMPLUASIBLE, AND THIS AND ALL CONSPIRACY SITES SIMPLY POINT OUT THE INCONSISTENCIES FOR THE DIMWITTED.
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I see a banning on my immediate horizon....




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