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Sen. Dodd (D): We Democrats are out of Touch
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Urinal Cake..
12/8/2005 10:17 AM | | Re: Sen. Dodd (D): We Democrats are out of Touch | Quote |
Fuck that jackass, I aint concedeing nothing
till thereīs fucken election with votes you can count.
Those cocksuckers can roll over and play dead,
but Iīll be damn if Iīm going to. |
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Pioneer Queen
12/8/2005 10:17 AM | | Re: Sen. Dodd (D): We Democrats are out of Touch | Quote |
I love Zell Miller. I am not a Dem..I am a Libertarian but I sure admire someone who will stand up against the current and speak his mind. It takes a whole lot of guts and courage to stand there and do and say what he did and said. All the people calling him crazy and a lunatic only WISH they could have the balls that man has. They got called on the carpet, rightly so, and now all they can do is belittle him. The truth hurts.
Now I guess theyīll have to castigate ANY Dem that dares utter a word against their failings. Deal with it.
And for those who gripe about the south...Zell is a good example of us...weīll take and take and then enough is by god enough and weīll SAY it. Too bad if it upsets you. |
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Blueskeyes
12/8/2005 10:17 AM | | Re: Sen. Dodd (D): We Democrats are out of Touch | Quote |
I like Zell too PQ. He said what a lot of Democrats have been feeling, and have wanted to say for years. Unfortunately politics tends to restrain most people in government (republicans included) from saying or doing what they want, when they want or should. I think youīll see a few more democrats coming out of the wood work either with some level of sincerity, or because they realize the people they need to connect with for the coming elections arenīt the progressive hollywood elites, but good old Americans. |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:17 AM | | Re: Sen. Dodd (D): We Democrats are out of Touch | Quote |
Stupid southern motherfuckers can find out that Republicans ainīt for īem either.
used is what you are, and betrayed is what youīll get. Watch and see, or should I say, hide in the bushes and wait. |
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Pioneer Queen
12/8/2005 10:17 AM | | Re: Sen. Dodd (D): We Democrats are out of Touch | Quote |
Bluskeyes,
 A man of reason in this place called GLP!
Iīm sure youīre right. And isnīt that one of the problems with Washington now? For whatever reason, people donīt speak up. I almost admire some of the scream fests Iīve seen in Parliament. Everybody tippy toe-ing around too scared to say what they think...right or wrong, agree or disagree,....denies so many of us the chance to do what is needed.
Where would this country be...nowhere...if the people of the Revolutionary War stayed quiet. None of those guys had a good life after the Declaration and formation of this country. Almost all died in debt and under penalty of death. Where is that courage today? Not in washington. |
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gettinoverit
12/8/2005 10:17 AM | | Re: Sen. Dodd (D): We Democrats are out of Touch | Quote |
Kerry got something like 55.4 million votes. Waco got 58.something million votes. As has been noted previously on another thread, THIS IS NOT A MANDATE! Iīm wondering how many Dem. voters, like me, voted for Kerry only because we wanted the whacked out of office? It isnīt that Kerry spoke to our ethics, or our values, or that we thought huge spending on health (now thereīs a misnomer) care was a good idea. We voted for Kerry because we believed any other candidate that could unburden us and the world from corporate facism would be a good idea. The democratic party needs to address the REAL agenda(s) of the snubs (or whatever they morph into), the REAL issues of ETHICS, not MORALITY, and quit being reactive to whateveringodīsnameweird agenda they throw out to pick over. I think itīs called: "PROACTIVE."
I will never vote democratic again until that party speaks to real issues. |
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Ainīt It A Shame...
12/8/2005 10:17 AM | | Re: Sen. Dodd (D): We Democrats are out of Touch | Quote |
It took Dems this long to see they were out of touch? It all goes back to the start of political correctness, you couldnīt say anything without someone correcting you. Now comes the backlash and they canīt understand why. |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:17 AM | | Re: Sen. Dodd (D): We Democrats are out of Touch | Quote |
Out of touch democratic bump! |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:17 AM | | Re: Sen. Dodd (D): We Democrats are out of Touch | Quote |
>>>It took Dems this long to see they were out of touch? It all goes back to the start of political correctness, you couldnīt say anything without someone correcting you. Now comes the backlash and they canīt understand why.<<<<
A-fucking-MEN!!!! |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:17 AM | | Re: Sen. Dodd (D): We Democrats are out of Touch | Quote |
Democrats received a clubbing over the head with the Vote. |
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CWT
12/8/2005 10:17 AM | | Re: Sen. Dodd (D): We Democrats are out of Touch | Quote |
The Senators have nailed it completely.
One issue that the good Senators left out of their speeches was the matter of gun control. More than abortion, or taxes this is a matter of great concern in the South and also an area that could be changed by the leadership in the Democratic Party without a loss of core values. In fact, it could be stated that this would be a return to Constitutional values if the Democratic leadership would change itīs stance on gun control.
The Democratic Party lost an election in 2000 because Gore couldnīt carry his own home state. With 10 extra votes from Tennessee, he would have won and Florida would have been unimportant. Why did he lose his own home state? Because of the attacks against gun ownership carried out by the Democratic Party in the Clinton years.
Kerry, Iīm certain, could have done better in the South if he had possessed a record of voting for gun rights, and not simply a one time photo op of him inexpertly carrying a shotgun while duck hunting.
I know that individuals who call themselves Democrats do not universally share the aggressive attitudes against firearms ownership that you find among the party leadership. I would like to encourage you who are in the Democratic Party to write to your leaders and request a reversal on this policy. Become supporters of ALL the constitution, not simply the parts that you prefer.
A changing of attitude by the party on this issue is not a defeat. It would simply be a recognition of a Constitutionally recognized right. There is no Constitutional guarantee for an abortion. There is no Constitutional guarantee for health care service. The Founding Fathers had clear and precisely stated reasons for wishing the populace to remain armed. Reasons that should resonate among the few of you Democrats who have been denied your rights at the airport...or been maced during a protest. Or sent to concentration camps during the next 4 years.
Twice, your party had the best of circumstances to win an election and youīve failed. Unless you want your party to end up as the loyal opposition that always fails to win, then you need to encourage your leaders to soften, or even reverse, their policies in areas that are not core Democratic Party values. Iīm not asking you to favor big business or give tax cuts. Just recognize, and remind your leaders, that firearms ownership is important in the areas of the country that your party keeps losing. |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:17 AM | | Re: Sen. Dodd (D): We Democrats are out of Touch | Quote |
How true OP, how true. This was a wakeup call. The democrats need to let go of the liberal interests. |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:17 AM | | Re: Sen. Dodd (D): We Democrats are out of Touch | Quote |
As a democrat, I knew they were comatose when about 6 months after 9/11 my local democratic party called me to get my support in an election simply, as she put it, "to get more democrats in power." When I asked her why, she didnīt have an answer so I told her "we just got attacked and all you can think about is getting more democrats in? Why should I do that when the ones in office already arenīt doing their job? Both you and the republicans should be joining forces to catch the assholes who did this. Until then, donīt call me anymore." She then thanked me for my time and hung up. |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:17 AM | | Re: Sen. Dodd (D): We Democrats are out of Touch | Quote |
cool i voted for dodd |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:17 AM | | Re: Sen. Dodd (D): We Democrats are out of Touch | Quote |
cool i voted for dodd |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:17 AM | | Re: Sen. Dodd (D): We Democrats are out of Touch | Quote |
The democratic elitists received one hell of a wake up call today. We donīt want your stinking progressive agenda in this country any longer. Sell it to the Canadians. |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:17 AM | | Re: Sen. Dodd (D): We Democrats are out of Touch | Quote |
Sure-get ALL the sheep to herd in one direction-under Bush |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:17 AM | | Re: Sen. Dodd (D): We Democrats are out of Touch | Quote |
WTF?!
THERE IS *NO* MANDATE FOR BUSH!
THE VOTE WAS ONLY 51% TO 48%!! -NEARLY A TIE.
THAT, MY FRIEND IS FAR FROM A MANDATE
MAYBE IF IT WERE 60-40
BUT NOT NOW-NOT EVER |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:17 AM | | Re: Sen. Dodd (D): We Democrats are out of Touch | Quote |
You AC 10:51 are in denial and are not in touch with politics. This is most assuredly a mandate. |
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CWT
12/8/2005 10:17 AM | | Re: Sen. Dodd (D): We Democrats are out of Touch | Quote |
As has been noted previously on another thread, THIS IS NOT A MANDATE! Iīm wondering how many Dem. voters, like me, voted for Kerry only because we wanted the whacked out of office? It isnīt that Kerry spoke to our ethics, or our values, or that we thought huge spending on health (now thereīs a misnomer) care was a good idea. We voted for Kerry because we believed any other candidate that could unburden us and the world from corporate facism would be a good idea.
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And the majority of us in the country didnīt believe that Kerry offered any solution to any of these problems youīve mentioned. We had no desire to trade a fascist (bush is not perceived as a fascist although I see the patriot act as a step in that direction) for a leftist Commie. Before this election, I didnīt realize we even had a Senator that was more liberal than Ted Kennedy. Ted Kennedy? How far left do you have to go to be left of Ted Kennedy?
Your party needed a moderate, not an extreme leftist. Someone who would try to reach the guys with Confederate flags on the bumpers of their cars and......oh WAIT A MINUTE! YOU DID HAVE SOMEONE LIKE THAT!!! And you drove him out of his position and reviled him for having made this statement. A statement that acknowledged that the Democratic Party ought to try and win some "hearts and minds" out there. It probably wouldnīt have worked. The rural parts of this country are use to Democratic politicians saying one thing and then doing another. Courting our vote to take our virginity. Thatīs another thing that Dems have failed to realize. Bush, when he says something, does it. He isnīt smart enough to dissemble information. All that coke, I suppose. So when he says something, itīs generally what he does. War with Iran and Korea? Sure...he labelled them an Axis of Evil. I donīt think heīll change that. Do I agree with it? No. Not completely. But it makes a refreshing change to have someone say what they are going to do, and then do it. That seems like honesty to many people...even if it is more a lack of memory on his part.
Vote your values next time. But know WHAT your values are, and try to find a politician among the Dems who shares your vision. Otherwise youīre lying to yourself and doing yourself a disservice. |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:17 AM | | Re: Sen. Dodd (D): We Democrats are out of Touch | Quote |
Hmmmmm...And what about all the Republicans who cant stand Bush? |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:17 AM | | Re: Sen. Dodd (D): We Democrats are out of Touch | Quote |
 democrats need to get holy; get some religion; get down with JESUS |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:17 AM | | Re: Sen. Dodd (D): We Democrats are out of Touch | Quote |
 Maybe democrats should clone jesus and run the
clone for president - shit that could work - must I
think of everything? |
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Blueskeyes
12/8/2005 10:17 AM | | Re: Sen. Dodd (D): We Democrats are out of Touch | Quote |
Not a Mandate???!!!???
Are you on crack? Wake up and smell the manure youīre shovelling! Americans just voted in more conservatives than liberals in both the house and senate. They voted the minority democratic leader out of office on his ass and replaced him with a republican senator. Over 96% of counties around the country voted republican. The only exceptions were the major population centers (cities). They not only gave Bush the majority popular vote, but gave him the electoral college vote as well. If you think this was all coincidence, then Iīd suggest crawling back into your liberal elitest hole and re-evaluating reality. Americans are tired of political correctness, being told that God needs to be taken out of America, and that we are offending terrorists and need to fight a more compassionate war on terror.
Donīt get me started.. |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:17 AM | | Re: Sen. Dodd (D): We Democrats are out of Touch | Quote |
AC 10:52-DO YOU HAVE SHIT FOR BRAINS?
A MANDATE IS ONE WHERE NEARLY *EVERYONE* IS BEHIND SOME PERSON OR PROJECT
50-50 DONT CUT IT-LOOK IT UP
WE NEED A NEW GEORGE WASHINGTON TO LEAD US AGAINST THE īNEW BRITISHī: THE REPUBLICAN PARTY! |
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WV
12/8/2005 10:17 AM | | Re: Sen. Dodd (D): We Democrats are out of Touch | Quote |
true 60- 40% would have been a stong mandate
51-48 just means the psycopaths happend to get a few more votes
the state i live in threw out the gop and kept or added dems |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:17 AM | | Re: Sen. Dodd (D): We Democrats are out of Touch | Quote |
I like the dems labor stance but cant live with their gun stance |
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Yankee Blue
12/8/2005 10:17 AM | | Re: Sen. Dodd (D): We Democrats are out of Touch | Quote |
CWT
11/4/2004
10:38 pm EST
"I would like to encourage you who are in the Democratic Party to write to your leaders and request a reversal on this policy."
"There is no Constitutional guarantee for an abortion."
"Unless you want your party to end up as the loyal opposition that always fails to win, then you need to encourage your leaders to soften, or even reverse, their policies in areas that are not core Democratic Party values."
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You know something, pal? You think you Suthen pigs, with your inbred hatred of the North due to your hillbilly ancestors losing the Civil War, can tell us what to do? Go fuck yourself in the ass with your OīReilly-endorsed dildo. Do you want to fight the war again? I guarantee you we will slaughter your hayseed asses again. Guess what? --this time weīll have the entire black population with us, as well. You better lock your barefoot white trash wives up. White Southern boys are a distinct minority in this country, and shrinking fast. We will eventually shut you up ...permanently. In the meantime, go fill your mouth with Falwellīs cock. He loves you. |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:17 AM | | Re: Sen. Dodd (D): We Democrats are out of Touch | Quote |
A mandate is when both the popular and electoral vote voice the same opinion. Something that rarely happens in our country. You can toss out percentages. Look at the greater picture. Americans have spoken. Only Americans will hear what has been said. The rest are under the spell of the minority liberal left. |
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Freedom Man
12/8/2005 10:17 AM | | Re: Sen. Dodd (D): We Democrats are out of Touch | Quote |
I donīt feel I have lost anything....nor am I more angry that an inferior corporate President has retained the office.
The future being run by the neo-cons is going to be most interesting and enlightening.
They will in future have no left to blame for upcoming wars, death, destructions, snafus and disasters but themselves. |
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