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The founding fathers were FAR wiser and better educated than people are today...

 
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The founding fathers were FAR wiser and better educated than people are today...
They may not have had advanced (accumulated) scientific knowledge that we have today, but they had far more wisdom, common sense, and insight, than the vast majority of people today. They understood the nature of man, and the nature of tyranny far better then people do today, even though people today have had far more history to look back at.

Nowadays... REAL history is simply not taught in the schools. But worse than that, REVISIONIST (phony and skewed) history is taught instead. in contrast, the founders were well read, educated (with a REAL education and not a libtard "education"), and some of them accomplished more by the time they were 25, than people do their whole lives, today.

Were they perfect? Of course not. That's not the point. They were men, and NO man has ever been perfect, except for One. The point is, they were brilliant men. And these brilliant men risked EVERYTHING to obtain the only thing that's really worth ANYTHING.

Like "Braveheart" said... "What will you do without freedom"?

I know that the libs are just BURNING with desire to throw away the last amendments to the Bill of Rights. We've already thrown away the 4th, the 6th, and the 10th, and we've been feverishly chiseling away at the 1st as well. And now the libs want to flush the 2nd too.

The founders, who were FAR more intelligent than ANY politicians that we presently have in office (since Ron Paul left), did everything in their power to make sure that we would not have to go through what THEY did. And yes, they even warned us that we may indeed HAVE to go through what they did from time to time, because they KNEW the nature of man, and the relentless nature of tyranny.


So I ask you... Who are you going to trust?

Someone like Ben Franklin, who said:

"Those who would trade liberty for security deserve neither?

Or...

Someone like Obama, who said:

"Are we prepared to say that violence visited upon our children year after year after year is the price for our freedom?"



Obama is asking us to give up our freedom, for a SUPPOSED "security."

Now ask yourself... "Will I REALLY be safe if my more of my freedoms and privacy are taken?" And if so, what do you base that on?

Do you REALLY believe that you will be "safe", when ALL indicators are that crime will RISE, if we are made more defenseless?

People, the constitution is NOT the problem. Moral degradation, television, video games, and psychotropic meds, are a great deal of the problem. People have no hope, no bearing, no direction, and no REAL purpose! How can people continually feed their minds with such PURE GARBAGE, and yet expect any GOOD outcome from that? Some people BECOME what they BEHOLD, if they behold it often enough.

I'll tell you this... There is NO WAY that you can expect tragedies NOT to happen, in a "society" like this. I am not preaching here. I am simply telling you that it is patently RIDICULOUS to expect people to exemplify goodness and kindness and good will towards men, when they feed on nothing but death and destruction.

Some people handle it better than others, but that does not negate the point. In a grossly corrupted "society", there are going to be OUTRAGEOUS acts, like we saw recently. And the answer is NOT to penalize GOOD people. Or to put GOOD people's life in danger, whether it be by criminals, or by government, like our founding fathers were the MOST concerned with.

The answer is to RETURN to the constitution. And LET people defend themselves, according to the 2nd amendment. If you want to feel safe, then go about it like our founders MADE PROVISIONS for. Not like some COMMUNIST PUPPET expects you to believe will work.

I could site here and quote you HUNDREDS of brilliant comments made by the founders, but I shouldn't HAVE to. People need to start LEARNING about their rights, if they ever expect to KEEP them.

Thomas Jefferson said:

"If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."


Patrick Henry said:

"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined."


As I said, I could quote you HUNDREDS of nuggets of wisdom, but I will leave it at that. It's up to you to decide. Do you LEARN from history, or will you be doomed to repeat it?

Now is the time to decide.
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Re: The founding fathers were FAR wiser and better educated than people are today...
All men are created equal...yet had slaves, Its the same circus just different clowns.
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Wisdom is better then knowledge.
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Yes the founding fathers were truly geniuses. Notice the contrast between them and the idiots who want to abolish our constitution and take away our rights.
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All men are created equal...yet had slaves, Its the same circus just different clowns.
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This...
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All men are created equal...yet had slaves, Its the same circus just different clowns.
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Yes... Because only idealists like yourself expect a perfect society to be built overnight, in a fallen, and dark world.

I'm guessing that you (being perfect), didn't read the part where I SAID that they were NOT perfect. And most of them did not own slaves.

Your perfection is a bit lacking.
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All men are created equal...yet had slaves, Its the same circus just different clowns.
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This...
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Had slaves
Murdered the natives
Women had little rights
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All men are created equal...yet had slaves, Its the same circus just different clowns.
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This...
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And even though SOME did, they were 100 times the man that you are, intellectually.
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All men are created equal...yet had slaves, Its the same circus just different clowns.
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This...
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Had slaves
Murdered the natives
Women had little rights
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One word for you:

Parrot



Two other words for you:

Get Out
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your founding farters were a bunch of faggots.
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They may not have had advanced (accumulated) scientific knowledge that we have today, but they had far more wisdom, common sense, and insight, than the vast majority of people today. They understood the nature of man, and the nature of tyranny far better then people do today, even though people today have had far more history to look back at.

Nowadays... REAL history is simply not taught in the schools. But worse than that, REVISIONIST (phony and skewed) history is taught instead. in contrast, the founders were well read, educated (with a REAL education and not a libtard "education"), and some of them accomplished more by the time they were 25, than people do their whole lives, today.

Were they perfect? Of course not. That's not the point. They were men, and NO man has ever been perfect, except for One. The point is, they were brilliant men. And these brilliant men risked EVERYTHING to obtain the only thing that's really worth ANYTHING.

Like "Braveheart" said... "What will you do without freedom"?

I know that the libs are just BURNING with desire to throw away the last amendments to the Bill of Rights. We've already thrown away the 4th, the 6th, and the 10th, and we've been feverishly chiseling away at the 1st as well. And now the libs want to flush the 2nd too.

The founders, who were FAR more intelligent than ANY politicians that we presently have in office (since Ron Paul left), did everything in their power to make sure that we would not have to go through what THEY did. And yes, they even warned us that we may indeed HAVE to go through what they did from time to time, because they KNEW the nature of man, and the relentless nature of tyranny.


So I ask you... Who are you going to trust?

Someone like Ben Franklin, who said:

"Those who would trade liberty for security deserve neither?

Or...

Someone like Obama, who said:

"Are we prepared to say that violence visited upon our children year after year after year is the price for our freedom?"



Obama is asking us to give up our freedom, for a SUPPOSED "security."

Now ask yourself... "Will I REALLY be safe if my more of my freedoms and privacy are taken?" And if so, what do you base that on?

Do you REALLY believe that you will be "safe", when ALL indicators are that crime will RISE, if we are made more defenseless?

People, the constitution is NOT the problem. Moral degradation, television, video games, and psychotropic meds, are a great deal of the problem. People have no hope, no bearing, no direction, and no REAL purpose! How can people continually feed their minds with such PURE GARBAGE, and yet expect any GOOD outcome from that? Some people BECOME what they BEHOLD, if they behold it often enough.

I'll tell you this... There is NO WAY that you can expect tragedies NOT to happen, in a "society" like this. I am not preaching here. I am simply telling you that it is patently RIDICULOUS to expect people to exemplify goodness and kindness and good will towards men, when they feed on nothing but death and destruction.

Some people handle it better than others, but that does not negate the point. In a grossly corrupted "society", there are going to be OUTRAGEOUS acts, like we saw recently. And the answer is NOT to penalize GOOD people. Or to put GOOD people's life in danger, whether it be by criminals, or by government, like our founding fathers were the MOST concerned with.

The answer is to RETURN to the constitution. And LET people defend themselves, according to the 2nd amendment. If you want to feel safe, then go about it like our founders MADE PROVISIONS for. Not like some COMMUNIST PUPPET expects you to believe will work.

I could site here and quote you HUNDREDS of brilliant comments made by the founders, but I shouldn't HAVE to. People need to start LEARNING about their rights, if they ever expect to KEEP them.

Thomas Jefferson said:

"If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."


Patrick Henry said:

"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined."


As I said, I could quote you HUNDREDS of nuggets of wisdom, but I will leave it at that. It's up to you to decide. Do you LEARN from history, or will you be doomed to repeat it?

Now is the time to decide.
 Quoting: Paul Revere 30091444


Our country is so vastly different now. It is beyond words.
I wish i could have grown up with the founding fathers sometimes. They truly were men of a different mind.
Although, I do look to the future with hope. While things are approaching a precipice that will indeed carry us off and into a new world.. There is no going back. We must look at what we have and the resources that are available to us and push forward. Even with all the evil and tyranny around us. Even with the complete and utter lack and disregard of morals and absolute truth in our society. We must push forawrd.

Carry the banner. Relay the message. Spread the truth my friends. We all need to be Paul Reveres in this day and age. No one else will do it. We must. We must..
servant of christ
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All men are created equal...yet had slaves, Its the same circus just different clowns.
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Yes... Because only idealists like yourself expect a perfect society to be built overnight, in a fallen, and dark world.

I'm guessing that you (being perfect), didn't read the part where I SAID that they were NOT perfect. And most of them did not own slaves.

Your perfection is a bit lacking.
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No life has higher value than another, the only law is natural law. If there was mutual respect, no one would need anything. The CONstitution is a contract no one alive signed therefor no one is bound to it. Understand your legal fiction signature.
Your ignorance is blinding.
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All men are created equal...yet had slaves, Its the same circus just different clowns.
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This...
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Had slaves
Murdered the natives
Women had little rights
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27302733


Let me ask you libtards something...

If you are RIGHT about a hundred things, but WRONG about one, or two, or three... Do you THROW AWAY the vast majority that you were RIGHT about?

If you have 50 fence posts, and three of them are out of line, do you dig up the 47?
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your founding farters were a bunch of faggots.
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Banesville for you I'd say.
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All men are created equal...yet had slaves, Its the same circus just different clowns.
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This...
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And even though SOME did, they were 100 times the man that you are, intellectually.
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They had better been. It's no secret that we continually get 'dumber' --- but it's not based on society -- our pop-culture is just a product of the idiocracy.

Our multi-cultural nation is likely one of our biggest downfalls. In a single-culture you can walk out your front door and all the neighbors around you are very similar to you. You understand each other...there's peace and wisdom in understanding.

You can look up to our fore-fathers, sure. But, that's like a young naive child looking up to his dead-beat dad..
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All men are created equal...yet had slaves, Its the same circus just different clowns.
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We dient like it & set them free. Thank the Brits for that.
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your founding farters were a bunch of faggots.
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And you, dear Oztard, are a BEAUTIFUL example of what is wrong with people today.

But thanks for showing up with your brilliant and meaningful comment.
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Ahh yes, here we go again...

You wrap yourselves in the constitution when it suits your own political paranoia.

"They're commin' fer our guuuhnz!".

What about when when Bush started the "Patriot" act?? Where were you assholes then?? Oh that's right. You were wrapping yourselves in the flag while proclaiming that anybody who disagreed with the administration was a "terrorist". Funny how it didn't seem to bother you ONE FUCKING BIT when it was a Republican doing the labeling and putting others in the cross-hairs.

And now?? Feels different, eh???

If there was ever a group of retards that deserved this, I have it say - it's you guys.

Reap what you sow, mofo's.

Careful what you ask for next time - cuz it's NOT always your guy with his finger on the trigger.

History lesson 101.
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All men are created equal...yet had slaves, Its the same circus just different clowns.
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This...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27302733


Had slaves
Murdered the natives
Women had little rights
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27302733


Let me ask you libtards something...

If you are RIGHT about a hundred things, but WRONG about one, or two, or three... Do you THROW AWAY the vast majority that you were RIGHT about?

If you have 50 fence posts, and three of them are out of line, do you dig up the 47?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30091444



There's no 'talking' with people like you..it's always down to a classification. "I don't like what you say, you must be a liberal\republican."
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All men are created equal...yet had slaves, Its the same circus just different clowns.
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We dient like it & set them free. Thank the Brits for that.
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Every US serf cough citizen is British property. Oh one more thing, if you have rights you are not free. Something granted you to have them and serfs consent to it willfully.
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your founding farters were a bunch of faggots.
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And you, dear Oztard, are a BEAUTIFUL example of what is wrong with people today.

But thanks for showing up with your brilliant and meaningful comment.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30091444


they were.
they probably got together on a weekly basis and fucked each other up the arse for shits and giggles.
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They may not have had advanced (accumulated) scientific knowledge that we have today, but they had far more wisdom, common sense, and insight, than the vast majority of people today. They understood the nature of man, and the nature of tyranny far better then people do today, even though people today have had far more history to look back at.

Nowadays... REAL history is simply not taught in the schools. But worse than that, REVISIONIST (phony and skewed) history is taught instead. in contrast, the founders were well read, educated (with a REAL education and not a libtard "education"), and some of them accomplished more by the time they were 25, than people do their whole lives, today.

Were they perfect? Of course not. That's not the point. They were men, and NO man has ever been perfect, except for One. The point is, they were brilliant men. And these brilliant men risked EVERYTHING to obtain the only thing that's really worth ANYTHING.

Like "Braveheart" said... "What will you do without freedom"?

I know that the libs are just BURNING with desire to throw away the last amendments to the Bill of Rights. We've already thrown away the 4th, the 6th, and the 10th, and we've been feverishly chiseling away at the 1st as well. And now the libs want to flush the 2nd too.

The founders, who were FAR more intelligent than ANY politicians that we presently have in office (since Ron Paul left), did everything in their power to make sure that we would not have to go through what THEY did. And yes, they even warned us that we may indeed HAVE to go through what they did from time to time, because they KNEW the nature of man, and the relentless nature of tyranny.


So I ask you... Who are you going to trust?

Someone like Ben Franklin, who said:

"Those who would trade liberty for security deserve neither?

Or...

Someone like Obama, who said:

"Are we prepared to say that violence visited upon our children year after year after year is the price for our freedom?"



Obama is asking us to give up our freedom, for a SUPPOSED "security."

Now ask yourself... "Will I REALLY be safe if my more of my freedoms and privacy are taken?" And if so, what do you base that on?

Do you REALLY believe that you will be "safe", when ALL indicators are that crime will RISE, if we are made more defenseless?

People, the constitution is NOT the problem. Moral degradation, television, video games, and psychotropic meds, are a great deal of the problem. People have no hope, no bearing, no direction, and no REAL purpose! How can people continually feed their minds with such PURE GARBAGE, and yet expect any GOOD outcome from that? Some people BECOME what they BEHOLD, if they behold it often enough.

I'll tell you this... There is NO WAY that you can expect tragedies NOT to happen, in a "society" like this. I am not preaching here. I am simply telling you that it is patently RIDICULOUS to expect people to exemplify goodness and kindness and good will towards men, when they feed on nothing but death and destruction.

Some people handle it better than others, but that does not negate the point. In a grossly corrupted "society", there are going to be OUTRAGEOUS acts, like we saw recently. And the answer is NOT to penalize GOOD people. Or to put GOOD people's life in danger, whether it be by criminals, or by government, like our founding fathers were the MOST concerned with.

The answer is to RETURN to the constitution. And LET people defend themselves, according to the 2nd amendment. If you want to feel safe, then go about it like our founders MADE PROVISIONS for. Not like some COMMUNIST PUPPET expects you to believe will work.

I could site here and quote you HUNDREDS of brilliant comments made by the founders, but I shouldn't HAVE to. People need to start LEARNING about their rights, if they ever expect to KEEP them.

Thomas Jefferson said:

"If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."


Patrick Henry said:

"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined."


As I said, I could quote you HUNDREDS of nuggets of wisdom, but I will leave it at that. It's up to you to decide. Do you LEARN from history, or will you be doomed to repeat it?

Now is the time to decide.
 Quoting: Paul Revere 30091444


Our country is so vastly different now. It is beyond words.
I wish i could have grown up with the founding fathers sometimes. They truly were men of a different mind.
Although, I do look to the future with hope. While things are approaching a precipice that will indeed carry us off and into a new world.. There is no going back. We must look at what we have and the resources that are available to us and push forward. Even with all the evil and tyranny around us. Even with the complete and utter lack and disregard of morals and absolute truth in our society. We must push forawrd.

Carry the banner. Relay the message. Spread the truth my friends. We all need to be Paul Reveres in this day and age. No one else will do it. We must. We must..
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Things may be vastly different nowadays in some ways, but one thing remains exactly the same... Traitors WITHIN the gate, are the most serous threat that liberty faces. It's more rampant today, than it was then.

And it was someone way ahead of our founders that pointed this out:

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.” Marcus Cicero
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All men are created equal...yet had slaves, Its the same circus just different clowns.
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This...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27302733


And even though SOME did, they were 100 times the man that you are, intellectually.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30091444


They had better been. It's no secret that we continually get 'dumber' --- but it's not based on society -- our pop-culture is just a product of the idiocracy.

Our multi-cultural nation is likely one of our biggest downfalls. In a single-culture you can walk out your front door and all the neighbors around you are very similar to you. You understand each other...there's peace and wisdom in understanding.

You can look up to our fore-fathers, sure. But, that's like a young naive child looking up to his dead-beat dad..
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So Ron Paul, the only REAL chance this nation had to start healing, was a naive child?

Wha??

Believing in the founding principles of a nation that rose to greatness never seen before is "naive"?

"Childlike?"


I think that people who prefer what's happened to the nation ever since we DEPARTED from those principles are not naive, but simply stupid.
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So let me ask you people who hate the founders, and hate the country, and hate anything good and decent...

What DO you stand for? Video games? Beer? Football? Porno?

Seems pretty selfish, and extremely shallow.

If you love this world, you will perish with it.
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your founding farters were a bunch of faggots.
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And you, dear Oztard, are a BEAUTIFUL example of what is wrong with people today.

But thanks for showing up with your brilliant and meaningful comment.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30091444


they were.
they probably got together on a weekly basis and fucked each other up the arse for shits and giggles.
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isn't this what illuminati does?
ohyeah
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This...
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And even though SOME did, they were 100 times the man that you are, intellectually.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30091444


They had better been. It's no secret that we continually get 'dumber' --- but it's not based on society -- our pop-culture is just a product of the idiocracy.

Our multi-cultural nation is likely one of our biggest downfalls. In a single-culture you can walk out your front door and all the neighbors around you are very similar to you. You understand each other...there's peace and wisdom in understanding.

You can look up to our fore-fathers, sure. But, that's like a young naive child looking up to his dead-beat dad..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27302733





So Ron Paul, the only REAL chance this nation had to start healing, was a naive child?

Wha??

Believing in the founding principles of a nation that rose to greatness never seen before is "naive"?

"Childlike?"


I think that people who prefer what's happened to the nation ever since we DEPARTED from those principles are not naive, but simply stupid.
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Maybe, short-sided is a better word, in this case.

We can and should do EVEN better than that. Much better. We were built on a mistake. While their principles and values seem grand to us now..if you set back and really look at it..we didn't even get off on the right path to begin with.

We have so much more potential as human beings. So much more to offer and become. We cannot and would never become that potential in this type of society.
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Re: The founding fathers were FAR wiser and better educated than people are today...
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And even though SOME did, they were 100 times the man that you are, intellectually.
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They had better been. It's no secret that we continually get 'dumber' --- but it's not based on society -- our pop-culture is just a product of the idiocracy.

Our multi-cultural nation is likely one of our biggest downfalls. In a single-culture you can walk out your front door and all the neighbors around you are very similar to you. You understand each other...there's peace and wisdom in understanding.

You can look up to our fore-fathers, sure. But, that's like a young naive child looking up to his dead-beat dad..
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So Ron Paul, the only REAL chance this nation had to start healing, was a naive child?

Wha??

Believing in the founding principles of a nation that rose to greatness never seen before is "naive"?

"Childlike?"


I think that people who prefer what's happened to the nation ever since we DEPARTED from those principles are not naive, but simply stupid.
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Maybe, short-sided is a better word, in this case.

We can and should do EVEN better than that. Much better. We were built on a mistake. While their principles and values seem grand to us now..if you set back and really look at it..we didn't even get off on the right path to begin with.

We have so much more potential as human beings. So much more to offer and become. We cannot and would never become that potential in this type of society.
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Short-Sighted**
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Re: The founding fathers were FAR wiser and better educated than people are today...
I think I should also add something that SHOULD be obvious...

You people who hate guns, or who hate gun owners, and who hate the 2nd amendment, you are in every bit as much danger as are those who BELIEVE in self-defense, and in liberty.

Don't be gullible enough to think that people who intend to eliminate the majority of the population, are going to show idiots and fools any favoritism. Your only hope, may very well depend on at least KNOWING someone who might defend you.
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Re: The founding fathers were FAR wiser and better educated than people are today...
If you listened to the founding fathers they expected people to change the Constitution, and eventually, get rid of it for something new.

See, you don't follow them.
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Re: The founding fathers were FAR wiser and better educated than people are today...
Well, that's one adjective I've never been accused of before. I've been accused of being intuitive, insightful, well read, etc... But never "short-sighted".

But hey... Thanks for your opinion.
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If you listened to the founding fathers they expected people to change the Constitution, and eventually, get rid of it for something new.

See, you don't follow them.
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Wow...

Just................................Wow!