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Historical Asian cold-vortex will test -70°F in 5-days!!!

 
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Historical Asian cold-vortex will test -70°F in 5-days!!!
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As historical Asian cold-vortex pushed east, parts of Siberia will test -70°F in 5-days. [link to mobile.twitter.com (secure)]
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Re: Historical Asian cold-vortex will test -70°F in 5-days!!!
you mean north north asian
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verycold

*converts* -57°C
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you mean north north asian
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well it's north Asia, but the cold front it's not only in the north
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I've experienced -40 celcius in China before. Does it say whether this supposed vortex is moving south?
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verycold Well lets hope some of our Ruski posters see this thread, their comments should be interesting.
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verycold

*converts* -57°C
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this really very low...hiding
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[link to www.ecmwf.int]
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[link to www.ecmwf.int]
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verycold Well lets hope some of our Ruski posters see this thread, their comments should be interesting.
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Guys from Oymyakon will probably say "Oh nice, a warm front!" cool2
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verycold Well lets hope some of our Ruski posters see this thread, their comments should be interesting.
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Guys from Oymyakon will probably say "Oh nice, a warm front!" cool2
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lolsign
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verycold Well lets hope some of our Ruski posters see this thread, their comments should be interesting.
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Guys from Oymyakon will probably say "Oh nice, a warm front!" cool2
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lolsign
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bump
It remains to hope on the 21 December an extreme solar flare class, which all melt and all the warm moshpit
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verycold Well lets hope some of our Ruski posters see this thread, their comments should be interesting.
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Guys from Oymyakon will probably say "Oh nice, a warm front!" cool2
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lolsign
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bump
It remains to hope on the 21 December an extreme solar flare class, which all melt and all the warm moshpit
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cool2
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OMG thats cold
How many feminists does it take to screw in a lightbulb? One. She stands there with the bulb in the socket and waits for the world to revolve around her.
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Guys from Oymyakon will probably say "Oh nice, a warm front!" cool2
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verycold I bought a double sized 15 TOG goose feather and down duvet as a Christmas gift from my mother this last weekend. It's very cozy, but I reckon that at
-70 I'd be piling everything else on.

I've read a few books about Napoleon's retreat from Moscow and that sure wasn't much fun.
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verycold

*converts* -57°C
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30124277


this really very low...hiding
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-67.8 Degrees Celsius measured on on 6 February 1922 in Siberia
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As historical Asian cold-vortex pushed east, parts of Siberia will test -70°F in 5-days. [link to mobile.twitter.com (secure)]
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Merry Christmas, Luisport!!

Thank you for always posting interesting and important theads!! Are you and family going to the Shrine for Christmas? Do they have a midnight mass there?? If so, can I send you a petition to bring there for me? Thank you
Hugs and more hugs
Live and let live, for we all have our own lessons to learn.
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Ryan Maue @RyanMaue 6h
As historical Asian cold-vortex pushed east, parts of Siberia will test -70°F in 5-days. [link to mobile.twitter.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Luisport


Merry Christmas, Luisport!!

Thank you for always posting interesting and important theads!! Are you and family going to the Shrine for Christmas? Do they have a midnight mass there?? If so, can I send you a petition to bring there for me? Thank you
Hugs and more hugs
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you can allways send me any petition... we go to our local church for midnight mess, but the new year passage we go to the shrine. hf
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Re: Historical Asian cold-vortex will test -70°F in 5-days!!!
The long-term trends point to the interesting possibility of a collapse of the polar vortex, perhaps in a very "explosive".

Analyzing the temperature anomalies to the surface of the sea, and at some points mainland, we can get a sense of the overall pattern that has preponderado over the past few weeks:

According to the letter today:

This image has been resized. Click this bar to view the image in its original size: 1174x768 and 224KB.


The red
Blue-B
Purple-Lock

We have been observing a growing trend of locks mixed in Asia, and locks on anticyclonic regions of the NE Atlantic / Canada / Greenland.

In the Pacific the strengthening of positive temperature anomalies in Ecuador teem strengthened quite a blocking anticyclone near the antimeridiano of Greewich, and this has resulted in an overall pattern of cold air to accumulate in the tracks north America, extending from Alaska to regões W American as a strengthening of the Siberian AT, with negative anomalies in good portions of Asia.

On the other hand there has been an accumulation of energy in the central Pacific and the Atlantic Central and NE.

Blocking extensive in Asia should, according to the GFS result in a gradual distortion of the polar vortex:



This is because of the movement disorganized (Jet to "jumps" in the Troposphere) generates friction with the height of the vortex circulation, which heats and distorts the movement in time ... the air is thin as a small input of energy by friction can heat the air mass at several tens of degrees in a short time.


It happens that this warming on Asia tends to vortice roper in the region, promoting a more stable atmosphere, it cools more power and strengthening the AT Siberian.

The asia will freeze in the coming weeks so ...

On the other hand if the Pacific continues to warm, and circulation hemieferica vai pushing cold air from Siberia to the Pacific ... there should be an intensification of cyclogenesis in Japan, which promote a chain reaction to be locking in Paficico, and to be more warming Stratospheric progressing on the Pacific.

Well ... this will destabilize the polar vortex and may be that atinga a limit under which it start to disintegrate ...

The current standard promotes a distribution of such Thermal anomalies which is very favorable for an episode of collapse and vortice negativization extreme AO, sometime in January.

If this happens there should be a large destabilization of the Hemisphere atmospheric circulation, creating a very complex situation but possibly favorable to the occurrence of a period of time moved more about our range Subtropical.

This sketch shows the tendency that can develop after rupture of VP:

This image has been resized. Click this bar to view the image in its original size: 1174x768 and 225KB.


But it's only a sketch, because in essence these events lead to unpredictable situations ... this letter shows what tend to be more expressive when it comes to default based on the distribution of the regions where it has manifested a greater accumulation of energy or cold ... the border points usually give us an idea of the type of flows and synoptic type that tends is easier to develop a region.


Summarizing the thing ... I think qie January may be one month very active, with lots of precipitation and below average temperatures tend.
[link to www.meteopt.com]
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This is interesting isn't it?
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The long-term trends point to the interesting possibility of a collapse of the polar vortex, perhaps in a very "explosive".

Analyzing the temperature anomalies to the surface of the sea, and at some points mainland, we can get a sense of the overall pattern that has preponderado over the past few weeks:

According to the letter today:

This image has been resized. Click this bar to view the image in its original size: 1174x768 and 224KB.


The red
Blue-B
Purple-Lock

We have been observing a growing trend of locks mixed in Asia, and locks on anticyclonic regions of the NE Atlantic / Canada / Greenland.

In the Pacific the strengthening of positive temperature anomalies in Ecuador teem strengthened quite a blocking anticyclone near the antimeridiano of Greewich, and this has resulted in an overall pattern of cold air to accumulate in the tracks north America, extending from Alaska to regões W American as a strengthening of the Siberian AT, with negative anomalies in good portions of Asia.

On the other hand there has been an accumulation of energy in the central Pacific and the Atlantic Central and NE.

Blocking extensive in Asia should, according to the GFS result in a gradual distortion of the polar vortex:



This is because of the movement disorganized (Jet to "jumps" in the Troposphere) generates friction with the height of the vortex circulation, which heats and distorts the movement in time ... the air is thin as a small input of energy by friction can heat the air mass at several tens of degrees in a short time.


It happens that this warming on Asia tends to vortice roper in the region, promoting a more stable atmosphere, it cools more power and strengthening the AT Siberian.

The asia will freeze in the coming weeks so ...

On the other hand if the Pacific continues to warm, and circulation hemieferica vai pushing cold air from Siberia to the Pacific ... there should be an intensification of cyclogenesis in Japan, which promote a chain reaction to be locking in Paficico, and to be more warming Stratospheric progressing on the Pacific.

Well ... this will destabilize the polar vortex and may be that atinga a limit under which it start to disintegrate ...

The current standard promotes a distribution of such Thermal anomalies which is very favorable for an episode of collapse and vortice negativization extreme AO, sometime in January.

If this happens there should be a large destabilization of the Hemisphere atmospheric circulation, creating a very complex situation but possibly favorable to the occurrence of a period of time moved more about our range Subtropical.

This sketch shows the tendency that can develop after rupture of VP:

This image has been resized. Click this bar to view the image in its original size: 1174x768 and 225KB.


But it's only a sketch, because in essence these events lead to unpredictable situations ... this letter shows what tend to be more expressive when it comes to default based on the distribution of the regions where it has manifested a greater accumulation of energy or cold ... the border points usually give us an idea of the type of flows and synoptic type that tends is easier to develop a region.


Summarizing the thing ... I think qie January may be one month very active, with lots of precipitation and below average temperatures tend.
[link to www.meteopt.com]
 Quoting: Luisport


siren2siren2siren2
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A sudden stratospheric warming (SSW) is an event where the polar vortex of westerly winds in the winter hemisphere abruptly (i.e. over the course of a few days) slows down or even reverses direction, accompanied by a rise of stratospheric temperature by several tens of kelvins. This is considered to be the most dramatic meteorological event in the stratosphere. [link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Classification and description

Typically stratospheric meteorologists classify the vortex breakdown into three categories: major, minor, and final.

Sometimes a fourth category, the Canadian warming, is included because of its unique and distinguishing structure and evolution.

[edit] Major

These occur when the westerly winds at 60N and 10hPa (geopotential height) reverse, i.e. become easterly. A complete disruption of the polar vortex is observed and the vortex will either be split into daughter vortices, or displaced from its normal location over the pole.

According to the World Meteorological Organization's Commission for Atmospheric Sciences (Mclnturff, 1978): a stratospheric warming can be said to be major if 10 mb or below the latitudinal mean temperature increases poleward from 60 degree latitude and an associated circulation reversal is observed (that is, the prevailing mean westerly winds poleward of 60 latitude are succeeded by mean easterlies in the same area).

[edit] Minor

Minor warmings are similar to major warmings however they are less dramatic, the westerly winds are slowed, however do not reverse. Therefore a breakdown of the vortex is never observed.

Mclnturff states: a stratospheric warming is called minor if a significant temperature increase is observed (that is, at least 25 degrees in a period of week or less) at any stratospheric level in any area of winter time hemisphere. The polar vortex is not broken down and the wind reversal from westerly to easterly is less extensive.

[edit] Final

The radiative cycle in the stratosphere means that during winter the mean flow is westerly and during summer it is easterly (westward). A final warming occurs on this transition, so that the polar vortex winds change direction for the warming, however do not change back until the following winter. This is because the stratosphere has entered the summer easterly phase. It is final because another warming cannot occur over the summer, so it is the final warming of the current winter.
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-67.8 Degrees Celsius measured on on 6 February 1922 in Siberia
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Holly shit ! I have complete winter gear with Merino wool inner layers, polartec middle layers and down jacket for the outer layer...but at that temperature I don't think any of it would help !

You need special eye protection gear in order to keep your eyes from freezing at such a low temperature, clothes alone just won't cut it !
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-67.8 Degrees Celsius measured on on 6 February 1922 in Siberia
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Holly shit ! I have complete winter gear with Merino wool inner layers, polartec middle layers and down jacket for the outer layer...but at that temperature I don't think any of it would help !

You need special eye protection gear in order to keep your eyes from freezing at such a low temperature, clothes alone just won't cut it !
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Geeezzzzzzzzzzzzz hiding
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We need a new Ice Age.

"The Day After Tomorrow" is really a cool movie!

It must come true!
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The long-term trends point to the interesting possibility of a collapse of the polar vortex, perhaps in a very "explosive".

Analyzing the temperature anomalies to the surface of the sea, and at some points mainland, we can get a sense of the overall pattern that has preponderado over the past few weeks:

According to the letter today:

This image has been resized. Click this bar to view the image in its original size: 1174x768 and 224KB.


The red
Blue-B
Purple-Lock

We have been observing a growing trend of locks mixed in Asia, and locks on anticyclonic regions of the NE Atlantic / Canada / Greenland.

In the Pacific the strengthening of positive temperature anomalies in Ecuador teem strengthened quite a blocking anticyclone near the antimeridiano of Greewich, and this has resulted in an overall pattern of cold air to accumulate in the tracks north America, extending from Alaska to regões W American as a strengthening of the Siberian AT, with negative anomalies in good portions of Asia.

On the other hand there has been an accumulation of energy in the central Pacific and the Atlantic Central and NE.

Blocking extensive in Asia should, according to the GFS result in a gradual distortion of the polar vortex:



This is because of the movement disorganized (Jet to "jumps" in the Troposphere) generates friction with the height of the vortex circulation, which heats and distorts the movement in time ... the air is thin as a small input of energy by friction can heat the air mass at several tens of degrees in a short time.


It happens that this warming on Asia tends to vortice roper in the region, promoting a more stable atmosphere, it cools more power and strengthening the AT Siberian.

The asia will freeze in the coming weeks so ...

On the other hand if the Pacific continues to warm, and circulation hemieferica vai pushing cold air from Siberia to the Pacific ... there should be an intensification of cyclogenesis in Japan, which promote a chain reaction to be locking in Paficico, and to be more warming Stratospheric progressing on the Pacific.

Well ... this will destabilize the polar vortex and may be that atinga a limit under which it start to disintegrate ...

The current standard promotes a distribution of such Thermal anomalies which is very favorable for an episode of collapse and vortice negativization extreme AO, sometime in January.

If this happens there should be a large destabilization of the Hemisphere atmospheric circulation, creating a very complex situation but possibly favorable to the occurrence of a period of time moved more about our range Subtropical.

This sketch shows the tendency that can develop after rupture of VP:

This image has been resized. Click this bar to view the image in its original size: 1174x768 and 225KB.


But it's only a sketch, because in essence these events lead to unpredictable situations ... this letter shows what tend to be more expressive when it comes to default based on the distribution of the regions where it has manifested a greater accumulation of energy or cold ... the border points usually give us an idea of the type of flows and synoptic type that tends is easier to develop a region.


Summarizing the thing ... I think qie January may be one month very active, with lots of precipitation and below average temperatures tend.
[link to www.meteopt.com]
 Quoting: Luisport


bump
Interesting point of view, but... I guess January weather will even more unpredictable then we expect now
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We need a new Ice Age.

"The Day After Tomorrow" is really a cool movie!

It must come true!
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Fuck China!