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Why do Americans need guns?

 
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Because if we didn't we would still be a British Colony.
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Ok just a thought but why do Americans need guns? is it cos they are insecure and feel the need to protect themselves at all times? or is it cos it gives them a sense of power? or are there any other reasons for the need to have guns?
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We are overrun whith urban gangs and illegals, on top of all that there is a need for are government to sell these urban animals cocaine and crack cocaine just to make sure they get the ultimate violence out of them. Any other questions?
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Why do you need them not to have guns?
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Because :

A) my house has never been robbed
B) I have never been robbed myself
C) NO ONE ELSE HAS A GUN
D) there is no need for a gun
E) Shootings such as this DO happen in England, there was a shooting last year. The fist in something like 10 years. Therefore, your argument that banning guns will make the place more dangerous is poor.

If everyone carried a gun then there will be no street robberies etc, your "for protection" idea is at least misguided.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9094168


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While I do agree with you that it can work, the sorrowful truth is that train left the station over a century ago for us. Now, there are far too many guns floating around that the government does NOT know of that the criminal element will have easy access to, while the compliant law abiding citizens give up their weapons...

See the problem here? It works great over there. You did not have an old west phase, and very little guns are to be had. Do they get in? sure, but the demand is lower.

Tell you what, take a look at any celebratory video from the middle east and try to not see a young child shooting a fully automatic weapon in the crowd. Now that is dire need of gun control.
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To protect themeselves from other americans with guns
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Ok just a thought but why do Americans need guns? is it cos they are insecure and feel the need to protect themselves at all times? or is it cos it gives them a sense of power? or are there any other reasons for the need to have guns?
 Quoting: KromaZone


We Americans do not need guns. We choose to have them. We were given the right to bear arms from the get go. Are we fearful of people who roam the streets? No. Do we carry guns to protect ourselves? No. Our soceity is complicated. We carry them because we can. An outsider such as yourself won't understand. We are taught from birth that we have the right to bear arms no matter what. Its written in our constitution and we live by it.

Here's my favorite quote for dealing with people who question our way of thinking.

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin

Even if our government some how succeeds at taking our guns, (Highly unlikely) there's still bombs and chemical warfare we have to worry about. We have plenty of nuts here in the U.S. So does every other country on this planet. You take one weapon away, they'll find another to do as much if not more damage. I don't own guns, but I believe in our constitution to the fullest. It shouldn't be altered in any which way.
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I really don't understand. Being British & never having owned more dangerous a weapon than a Jean Phillipe carving knife I have no idea why you would want to own a gun. In all my years I have never felt the need to own a firearm or even entertained the mere thought. Why do you? Genuine question x
Just read above post. Essential liberty? How does that translate into arming oneself against nothing in particular?
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I really don't understand. Being British & never having owned more dangerous a weapon than a Jean Phillipe carving knife I have no idea why you would want to own a gun. In all my years I have never felt the need to own a firearm or even entertained the mere thought. Why do you? Genuine question x
 Quoting: Elemental


How many times do people have to answer your question before you get it??
"You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it." -Morpheus
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I really don't understand. Being British & never having owned more dangerous a weapon than a Jean Phillipe carving knife I have no idea why you would want to own a gun. In all my years I have never felt the need to own a firearm or even entertained the mere thought. Why do you? Genuine question x
 Quoting: Elemental


How many times do people have to answer your question before you get it??
 Quoting: Hitokiri


Obviously quite a few, so stop being rude & answer the question; or don't you have an answer?
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I have the sneaking suspicion that we are about to find out why....
Liberal Logic - Demanding that the government stay out of their bedrooms while insisting on taxpayer funded birth control.
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So we don't end up like Egypt.

"When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
-Thomas Jefferson

 Quoting: Hitokiri


I really don't understand. Being British & never having owned more dangerous a weapon than a Jean Phillipe carving knife I have no idea why you would want to own a gun. In all my years I have never felt the need to own a firearm or even entertained the mere thought. Why do you? Genuine question x
 Quoting: Elemental


How many times do people have to answer your question before you get it??
 Quoting: Hitokiri


Obviously quite a few, so stop being rude & answer the question; or don't you have an answer?
 Quoting: Elemental


I guess so! Stop being an idiot and read the replies... Or do you only see what you want to see?
"You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it." -Morpheus
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The. USA is the most violent country in the so called civalised western country's in most of the city's you are not safe if you leave the main streets in many ways a very backward country
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Why do we need guns?

"When you find yourself outsized, rely on us, we will equalize". - Sam Colt

Because my daughter is 5'3", 130 lbs. There is no way on earth she could ever defend herself against a 6'4" 250 lbs. man. I don't care if she was trained by Bruce Lee himself, she could never fight off a man of this size.

However, she is well trained in the use of handguns. Therefore, if she is home alone, I am confident she would be ablet to defend herself.

Simple as that.
 Quoting: Conspiracy Theorist


You are kidding yourself, the odds are that gun would be used against her, unless he was coming at her from the front, a back or side attack and she would be unarmed in a second.

Better to buy her a rape whistle and invest in some tactical training that can momentarily disable her attacker and allow her to flee.

Jm2c as a woman.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775

Herr, not actually, you are confusing target shooting in a range, that has to be done to the front (for security reasons), with tactical/defense/combat shooting, that teaches tecniques to shoot to your back and sides. The techniques that "momentarily disable" an attacker, like the OP that you replied pointed out correctly, don´t work 100% of the time and you have even worst odds if the person is bigger, drunk, drogged, etc. Just ask any experienced bouncer, they will tell you.
And a rape whistle where a gun didn´t work? C´mon...
 Quoting: Zombietard


If you are grabbed from behind, you have no chance to pull your gun out of your purse. K
Knowing where to hit your attacker gives you a fighting chance to run away or at least time to pull out the gun, but saying that just because you carry one you are safe is an idiotic response.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775

Guns do not belong in purses, but on a belt on the waist.
In which case the would be ATTACKER, seeing a gun, will find an easier target.
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Ok just a thought but why do Americans need guns? is it cos they are insecure and feel the need to protect themselves at all times? or is it cos it gives them a sense of power? or are there any other reasons for the need to have guns?
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They need guns so they can shoot shit, you can't shoot shit without guns.

pretty simple really.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30124464


Ah i see now, those poor defenceless kids are shit then? oh and those students ect ect ect.
 Quoting: KromaZone


Exactly. Take the guns away and guess what?
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Why does a Tiger need claws?
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To catch it's food, not to kill for killings sake.
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Because if we didn't we would still be a British Colony.
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Why do you still maintain a costly Monarchy when your country is broke from its Socialistic policies and Bankster giveaways?
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So we don't end up like Egypt.

"When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
-Thomas Jefferson

 Quoting: Hitokiri


I really don't understand. Being British & never having owned more dangerous a weapon than a Jean Phillipe carving knife I have no idea why you would want to own a gun. In all my years I have never felt the need to own a firearm or even entertained the mere thought. Why do you? Genuine question x
 Quoting: Elemental


How many times do people have to answer your question before you get it??
 Quoting: Hitokiri


Obviously quite a few, so stop being rude & answer the question; or don't you have an answer?
 Quoting: Elemental


I guess so! Stop being an idiot and read the replies... Or do you only see what you want to see?
 Quoting: Hitokiri


Good grief, no wonder you shoot each other. What idiocy.
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We are a special society.

It is our right to bear arms.

I don't expect the rest of the world to understand.
 Quoting: natasha77



yes
we dont uderstand:

1. your speciality as a nation
(humanitarian intervention with guns?)
and
2. the individual fears leading to the need for a gun

this strange love to armory
all is ok out there ?
life anyone ?

i forgot, you are special
so you perhaps need the special outcomes from this
(your kids are shooting!)

hf

i am pro life (without being special at anything)
&
i am pro world peace (without guns)

yoda
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Did you enjoy life under the Russians?
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So we don't end up like Egypt.

"When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
-Thomas Jefferson

 Quoting: Hitokiri


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How many times do people have to answer your question before you get it??
 Quoting: Hitokiri


Obviously quite a few, so stop being rude & answer the question; or don't you have an answer?
 Quoting: Elemental


I guess so! Stop being an idiot and read the replies... Or do you only see what you want to see?
 Quoting: Hitokiri


Good grief, no wonder you shoot each other. What idiocy.
 Quoting: Elemental


You call it idiocy, we call it freedom. More kids are killed by cars every year, why not outlaw cars? You dumb ass Brits don't get it and we don't care. Why don't you worry about your own shitty country and stay out of our business?

Last Edited by Hitokiri on 12/17/2012 01:39 PM
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Freedom? You call owning a gun freedom? Bollocks. How? You think that having the ability to shoot someone is freedom? Oh my days, how naive! Why would you want to kill anyone? My daughter died, I feel anger but I don't want to take a life. You're barking mad. this is nuts, care and love not hate and murder.
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The drivers, not the cars, the person who pulls the trigger, not the gun. Stop making excuses. Give someone a gun and you allow the capacity for bad decisions. For knee jerk reaction. Look at your last killing. A boy whose mother taught him how to shoot, who kept guns. Here he would have found it hard to find the means for such slaughter. It would have taken time not a moment of madness.
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I really don't understand. Being British & never having owned more dangerous a weapon than a Jean Phillipe carving knife I have no idea why you would want to own a gun. In all my years I have never felt the need to own a firearm or even entertained the mere thought. Why do you? Genuine question x
Just read above post. Essential liberty? How does that translate into arming oneself against nothing in particular?
 Quoting: Elemental

You can not understand. You are a trained sheep.
You know no freedom, just what they tell you is freedom.

But I will try to explain:
Freedom is something you must fight to have.
Government's by their very nature desire to remove Freedom, in the name of "Good Government".
Governments rule buy the threat of violence, or violence.
(think of Libya, Syria, etc.)
Armed people rule the Government by that same threat.
So the one who is armed and numerous rules.
Our Founding Fathers understood this principle and founded our Government and our Constitution upon those principles.

Plus, taking responsibility for ones personal safety is a part of being Free. That is why you will not understand this!
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So we don't end up like Egypt.

"When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
-Thomas Jefferson

 Quoting: Hitokiri


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Obviously quite a few, so stop being rude & answer the question; or don't you have an answer?
 Quoting: Elemental


I guess so! Stop being an idiot and read the replies... Or do you only see what you want to see?
 Quoting: Hitokiri


Good grief, no wonder you shoot each other. What idiocy.
 Quoting: Elemental


You call it idiocy, we call it freedom. More kids are killed by cars every year, why not outlaw cars? You dumb ass Brits don't get it and we don't care. Why don't you worry about your own shitty country and stay out of our business?
 Quoting: Hitokiri


I can answer that, and no I am not anti-gun ownership, just anti-stupid people owning guns ownership.

Handguns smuggled from south of our border, that's you guys, are creating problems for us. So what you do does effect us.

The issue for me is the lack of responsibility of the gun owner in this particular case.

The woman taught her mentally unstable kid how to use the weapons, and obviously did a lousy job of keeping them out of his hands.

Irresponsible gun owners will be the downfall, to the detriment of all the responsible gun owners.

If you have mentally unstable people living with you, don't give them access to guns.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out.
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775, well said irresponsibility is the key and how do you judge who is mentally capable of owning a weapon capable of such immediate destruction? It's a moot & subjective point which I now happily dip out of. The Americans that support this are beyond my understanding & I don't wish to be associated with such *people*.
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I don't think the arguement of protecting ourselves from an oppressive government is valid anymore. What is a person with a rifle gonna do about a bomber jet? whats he gonna do about a smart bomb.

Some arguements that are still valid are:
1. Noone wants to invade a country where all the people own guns. Just ask former japanese commander in chief Isoroku Yamamoto.
2. The vast majority of gun owners use their weapons for non violent sport and hunting animals.
3.People can protect their homes and loved ones.
4. People collect them for their historical value and monetary value.
5. A lot of people are employed by gun manufacturing and sales.
6.Guns don't kill people by themselves
7.There will ALWAYS be other weapons
8.The people who commit gun crimes acquire their weapons through illegal means much of the time.
9. Making guns illegal will Promote organized crime, just like the futile "war on drugs" has produced violent millionaire criminals, they will just get more power once weapons are out of the hands of law abiding citizens.
10. the police and military aren't always right there to protect you.
 Quoting: secretninja


"I don't think the arguement of protecting ourselves from an oppressive government is valid anymore. What is a person with a rifle gonna do about a bomber jet? whats he gonna do about a smart bomb."
Try telling that line to those rebels in Libya, or Syria. They will laugh you out of there.

OK, so they don't use a rifle effectively against jet fighters and bombers. The rifle is used to get the weapons, you use against jet fighters and bombers. Get It?

The invincibility of Advanced weaponry is a lie, use to make the uninformed, cower and obey!
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The drivers, not the cars, the person who pulls the trigger, not the gun. Stop making excuses. Give someone a gun and you allow the capacity for bad decisions. For knee jerk reaction. Look at your last killing. A boy whose mother taught him how to shoot, who kept guns. Here he would have found it hard to find the means for such slaughter. It would have taken time not a moment of madness.
 Quoting: Elemental


There you go, bad parenting. Just because idiots like you can't handle the responsibility doesn't mean we can't. We will never give up our rights so get over it. It is the shooter, not the gun that's the problem. If the teachers had been armed, he wouldn't have made it very far. Do you ever wonder why they choose schools and not police stations or gun clubs? Because the puddles know they wouldn't stand a chance. Just because you sheep have been brainwashed and trained to obey doesn't mean we have to.

Doctors kill way more patients than guns ever year, we still have them!
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