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Why do Americans need guns?

 
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To protect ourselves from a corrupt Government.pigchef
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To keep away a tyrannical government
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To protect ourselves from a corrupt Government.pigchef
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29152731


THIS....a slave can not own a gun
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To protect ourselves from a corrupt Government.pigchef
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This^^^^

Just them knowing the citizenry has many of them, enough to share with friends if things get rough, keeps them at bay.
 Quoting: Pyractomena borealis


Then why is your government one of the most corrupt and tyrannic in the world? 9/11, the fake war on terror, WMD's in Iraq, the two-party system, the FED, etc just to name a few.
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muzz ^^
 Quoting: davvi


Again Davvi? Sounds like a broken record.

There are White people in Europe that are aware of how corrupt the American system is.

Some things never change. Jews/Zionist supporters will always be the biggest racists on Earth. There is a reason why they are the most hated "people".
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Americans need to understand the flipside of the freedom to own a gun - that is the reality that nutjobs will carry on with these school massacres.

Guns are for one purpose, to kill.

You can even buy an M16 in Walmart, right next to the tomatoes and cheese counter.

It is OBVIOUS that such a prevalence of guns will lead to many innocent deaths
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it is none of your business. we dont' give a damn whether you have guns or you don't. your country, your business. we are not your "colony" so skip along and MYOB.
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To protect ourselves from a corrupt Government.pigchef
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To keep away a tyrannical government
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...


THIS....a slave can not own a gun
 Quoting: CtYankee


...


This^^^^

Just them knowing the citizenry has many of them, enough to share with friends if things get rough, keeps them at bay.
 Quoting: Pyractomena borealis


Then why is your government one of the most corrupt and tyrannic in the world? 9/11, the fake war on terror, WMD's in Iraq, the two-party system, the FED, etc just to name a few.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30090477


muzz ^^
 Quoting: davvi


Again Davvi? Sounds like a broken record.

There are White people in Europe that are aware of how corrupt the American system is.

Some things never change. Jews/Zionist supporters will always be the biggest racists on Earth. There is a reason why they are the most hated "people".
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yea well you all sound alike to me, what can i say?
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I am for the freedom to own a gun for Americans. 30,000 dumbfucks less per year. That's like 10 9/11's each year for free.

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yea well you all sound alike to me, what can i say?


We're the same as them for believing the Jewish FED is corrupt as shit?
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I am for the freedom to own a gun for Americans. 30,000 dumbfucks less per year. That's like 10 9/11's each year for free.

5a
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what a lovely thing to say....not surprising at all coming from a euromuzz.

:havea:
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I can't believe you idiots are still making these dumb threads. Should we ask why you Brits need your dicks? You never really need em, right?
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I'm from the UK and I agree with you. I am sick of my fellow countrymen asking this.

If guns were legal here then i'd defo own one in case anyone broke into the house in the middle of the night. I wouldn't hesitate about using it either if it came down to protecting myself, my house and my family.

The criminals will always get guns. The only thing a ban does is keeps them out of the hands of law abiding citizens.
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I am for the freedom to own a gun for Americans. 30,000 dumbfucks less per year. That's like 10 9/11's each year for free.

5a
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what a lovely thing to say....not surprising at all coming from a euromuzz.

:havea:
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No Jew boy, you can use your broken record as much as you like, I'm not a Muzzie. In fact, I'm Whiter than you. Blue eyes, blond hair and tall - the Aryan race, you know. Not the hooked nose race like yours.

Don't take this the wrong way, but 10 9/11's per year - "Because guns are an American tradition"-bullshit mentality - is worth a serious thought IMHO.
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I am for the freedom to own a gun for Americans. 30,000 dumbfucks less per year. That's like 10 9/11's each year for free.

5a
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What's even the point of all that hatred? Hating an entire group of millions of people because of warped, pre-conceived ideas. Very open minded of you!

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Real question, why do foreign people keep butting into the affairs of others simply because they gave up their guns (yet still have astounding knife violence) and insist that Americans are "insecure and power tripping"?

I don't think you can compete with Aussie and British trolls right now on this.
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Real question, why do foreign people keep butting into the affairs of others simply because they gave up their guns (yet still have astounding knife violence) and insist that Americans are "insecure and power tripping"?

I don't think you can compete with Aussie and British trolls right now on this.
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I'm honest, it's pissing me off too. I envy you guys and curse the day they were taken away from the british people. People here have been brainwashed and conditioned into being slaves.
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Re: Why do Americans need guns?
Simplest answer for the SIMPLE MINDED .... Because the criminals DO, and will continue to have them IF we give up ours !

Go suck a lemon, libtard !
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Real question, why do foreign people keep butting into the affairs of others simply because they gave up their guns (yet still have astounding knife violence) and insist that Americans are "insecure and power tripping"?

I don't think you can compete with Aussie and British trolls right now on this.
 Quoting: Sneetch


I'm honest, it's pissing me off too. I envy you guys and curse the day they were taken away from the british people. People here have been brainwashed and conditioned into being slaves.
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I would have no problem with it if it wasn't for the fact that these arguments aren't "I understand your point sir and heres why I disagree", they simply devolve into "WOW Ameritards are power tripping morons lol! Give up your guns you don't need one cause I don't either! Yeah my neighbor got stabbed yesterday defending himself with a knife, so what?"
We were meant to live for so much more, have we lost ourselves?
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Real question, why do foreign people keep butting into the affairs of others simply because they gave up their guns (yet still have astounding knife violence) and insist that Americans are "insecure and power tripping"?

I don't think you can compete with Aussie and British trolls right now on this.
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Why do you keep butting into the affairs of others, with guns and heavy weaponry (sometimes depleted uranium) and act as if you are the police of the world?
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an armed society is a polite society
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this
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Real question, why do foreign people keep butting into the affairs of others simply because they gave up their guns (yet still have astounding knife violence) and insist that Americans are "insecure and power tripping"?

I don't think you can compete with Aussie and British trolls right now on this.
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I'm honest, it's pissing me off too. I envy you guys and curse the day they were taken away from the british people. People here have been brainwashed and conditioned into being slaves.
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clappa
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an armed society is a polite society
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this
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Then why are you the most arrogant and violent people in the world?
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I am for the freedom to own a gun for Americans. 30,000 dumbfucks less per year. That's like 10 9/11's each year for free.

5a
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what a lovely thing to say....not surprising at all coming from a euromuzz.

:havea:
 Quoting: davvi


No Jew boy, you can use your broken record as much as you like, I'm not a Muzzie. In fact, I'm Whiter than you. Blue eyes, blond hair and tall - the Aryan race, you know. Not the hooked nose race like yours.

Don't take this the wrong way, but 10 9/11's per year - "Because guns are an American tradition"-bullshit mentality - is worth a serious thought IMHO.
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"jew boy?" ahhhh a eurothing calling me jew-boy? that's kind of rich, too bad that some didn't have guns last century, eh? or would that have spoiled your "fun?"

do you know where the word aryan comes from? it may be worth it to look it up. and don't be surprised when you discover you are not in fact "aryan."
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Real question, why do foreign people keep butting into the affairs of others simply because they gave up their guns (yet still have astounding knife violence) and insist that Americans are "insecure and power tripping"?

I don't think you can compete with Aussie and British trolls right now on this.
 Quoting: Sneetch


I'm honest, it's pissing me off too. I envy you guys and curse the day they were taken away from the british people. People here have been brainwashed and conditioned into being slaves.
 Quoting: Defj@m


you are a rare brit, and hello. cheers
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Coz they are afraid of themselves, and like it that way.
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Real question, why do foreign people keep butting into the affairs of others simply because they gave up their guns (yet still have astounding knife violence) and insist that Americans are "insecure and power tripping"?

I don't think you can compete with Aussie and British trolls right now on this.
 Quoting: Sneetch


Why do you keep butting into the affairs of others, with guns and heavy weaponry (sometimes depleted uranium) and act as if you are the police of the world?
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damned if i know, but i am getting sick and tired of paying for it.
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To protect ourselves from a corrupt Government.pigchef
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This. Sure guns are used for hunting and home defense but most importantly, and what people often forget, they are used for defense against our government. People ask why someone would need a semi-automatic AR-15 with a large clip? Well 1st, the criminals don't follow gun laws and they are armed with the best weapons. The law abiding citizens also want to be armed with the best weapons. 2nd, the people of the USA can't fight against the government with single shot .22's, shotguns, and pistols. We need some firepower. 3rd, having a well armed populace makes invasion from foreign countries near impossible. People don't think about this now but the USA is not immune from invasion.

Don't buy into the government propaganda people. They have been wanting to disarm us for a while now and they are opportunists. The will surely use this to try and push gun laws. All it will do though is disarm the sane, law abiding people. Nuts will still do mass shootings.


"Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence … from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable … the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference — they deserve a place of honor with all that's good."
George Washington

"The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand arms, like laws, discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as property. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside … Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them."
Thomas Paine

"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them."
Richard Henry Lee
American Statesman, 1788

"Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in possession and under our direction and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?"
Patrick Henry
American Patriot

"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
Thomas Jefferson

"The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that … it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; … "
Thomas Jefferson

"The best we can help for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed."
Alexander Hamilton
The Federalist Papers at 184-8

"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
Thomas Jefferson
to James Madison

"They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Ben Franklin
American Statesman

"The ruling class doesn't care about public safety. Having made it very difficult for States and localities to police themselves, having left ordinary citizens with no choice but to protect themselves as best they can, they now try to take our guns away. In fact they blame us and our guns for crime. This is so wrong that it cannot be an honest mistake."
Malcolm Wallop
former U.S. Sen. (R-WY)

"An armed man is a citizen. A disarmed man is a subject."



Or all you anti-gun nuts can go the route of Hitler:

"This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!"
Adolph Hitler
Chancellor, Germany, 1933

We all know how well that turned out...
Ayatollah Khomeini:
“Islam makes it incumbent on all adult males, provided they are not disabled and incapacitated, to prepare themselves for the conquest of [other] countries so that the writ of Islam is obeyed in every country in the world. But those who study Islamic Holy War will understand why Islam wants to conquer the whole world…. Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those [who say this] are witless. Islam says: Kill all the unbelievers just as they would kill you all! Does this mean that Muslims should sit back until they are devoured by [the unbelievers]? Islam says: Kill them [the non-Muslims], put them to the sword and scatter [their armies]. Does this mean sitting back until [non-Muslims] overcome us? Islam says: Kill in the service of Allah those who may want to kill you! Does this mean that we should surrender to the enemy? Islam says: Whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword! People cannot be made obedient except with the sword! The sword is the key to Paradise, which can be opened only for Holy Warriors! There are hundreds of other [Koranic] verses and Hadiths [sayings of the Prophet] urging Muslims to value war and to fight. Does all that mean that Islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war? I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim.”
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I am for the freedom to own a gun for Americans. 30,000 dumbfucks less per year. That's like 10 9/11's each year for free.

5a
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what a lovely thing to say....not surprising at all coming from a euromuzz.

:havea:
 Quoting: davvi


No Jew boy, you can use your broken record as much as you like, I'm not a Muzzie. In fact, I'm Whiter than you. Blue eyes, blond hair and tall - the Aryan race, you know. Not the hooked nose race like yours.

Don't take this the wrong way, but 10 9/11's per year - "Because guns are an American tradition"-bullshit mentality - is worth a serious thought IMHO.
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"jew boy?" ahhhh a eurothing calling me jew-boy? that's kind of rich, too bad that some didn't have guns last century, eh? or would that have spoiled your "fun?"

do you know where the word aryan comes from? it may be worth it to look it up. and don't be surprised when you discover you are not in fact "aryan."
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You mean the big battle in the 40's that was financed by the big Jew boys? "If it wasn't for us, you'd be speaking German today"-bullshit line? Nooo, that was a set up. The goal was to create the state of Israel. They had to create a MONSTROUS lie, in order to make it look real. And it worked like charm. :)
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Real question, why do foreign people keep butting into the affairs of others simply because they gave up their guns (yet still have astounding knife violence) and insist that Americans are "insecure and power tripping"?

I don't think you can compete with Aussie and British trolls right now on this.
 Quoting: Sneetch


Why do you keep butting into the affairs of others, with guns and heavy weaponry (sometimes depleted uranium) and act as if you are the police of the world?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30090477


Hey troll, did I authorize the war in the Middle East, build all the bases, and do a bunch of other shit I disagree with?

Yeah, nice try.
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an armed society is a polite society
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this
 Quoting: katzi


Then why are you the most arrogant and violent people in the world?
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You can argue we are arrogant. Fine. That has nothing to do with guns and everything with the USA being the sole superpower atm.

If you really think we are the most violent people in the world you need to turn off the TV and look at some countries in Africa in Asia.

We are the most armed people in the world. Yes. Owning guns doesn't equal violence.

The most violent cities in America are the ones with the strictest gun laws. The safest cities are the ones like Kennesaw, GA where your required to own a gun.

I don't understand why Liberals think that if you take ban guns there will be no more shootings. We banned drugs and everyone can get them. It would be the same with guns but instead of buying them legally, a huge black market would spring up.
Ayatollah Khomeini:
“Islam makes it incumbent on all adult males, provided they are not disabled and incapacitated, to prepare themselves for the conquest of [other] countries so that the writ of Islam is obeyed in every country in the world. But those who study Islamic Holy War will understand why Islam wants to conquer the whole world…. Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those [who say this] are witless. Islam says: Kill all the unbelievers just as they would kill you all! Does this mean that Muslims should sit back until they are devoured by [the unbelievers]? Islam says: Kill them [the non-Muslims], put them to the sword and scatter [their armies]. Does this mean sitting back until [non-Muslims] overcome us? Islam says: Kill in the service of Allah those who may want to kill you! Does this mean that we should surrender to the enemy? Islam says: Whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword! People cannot be made obedient except with the sword! The sword is the key to Paradise, which can be opened only for Holy Warriors! There are hundreds of other [Koranic] verses and Hadiths [sayings of the Prophet] urging Muslims to value war and to fight. Does all that mean that Islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war? I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim.”
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Ok just a thought but why do Americans need guns? is it cos they are insecure and feel the need to protect themselves at all times? or is it cos it gives them a sense of power? or are there any other reasons for the need to have guns?
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Its not a question of "needing" them any more that someone "needs" a certain kind of car or a certain sized TV. We have them because we can if we want to. Period. Who are you to judge what anyone else needs?
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what a lovely thing to say....not surprising at all coming from a euromuzz.

:havea:
 Quoting: davvi


No Jew boy, you can use your broken record as much as you like, I'm not a Muzzie. In fact, I'm Whiter than you. Blue eyes, blond hair and tall - the Aryan race, you know. Not the hooked nose race like yours.

Don't take this the wrong way, but 10 9/11's per year - "Because guns are an American tradition"-bullshit mentality - is worth a serious thought IMHO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30090477


"jew boy?" ahhhh a eurothing calling me jew-boy? that's kind of rich, too bad that some didn't have guns last century, eh? or would that have spoiled your "fun?"

do you know where the word aryan comes from? it may be worth it to look it up. and don't be surprised when you discover you are not in fact "aryan."
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You mean the big battle in the 40's that was financed by the big Jew boys? "If it wasn't for us, you'd be speaking German today"-bullshit line? Nooo, that was a set up. The goal was to create the state of Israel. They had to create a MONSTROUS lie, in order to make it look real. And it worked like charm. :)
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Ah, so you're a holocaust denier. This explains why you are such a retard.
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Real question, why do foreign people keep butting into the affairs of others simply because they gave up their guns (yet still have astounding knife violence) and insist that Americans are "insecure and power tripping"?

I don't think you can compete with Aussie and British trolls right now on this.
 Quoting: Sneetch


Why do you keep butting into the affairs of others, with guns and heavy weaponry (sometimes depleted uranium) and act as if you are the police of the world?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30090477


Hey troll, did I authorize the war in the Middle East, build all the bases, and do a bunch of other shit I disagree with?

Yeah, nice try.
 Quoting: Sneetch


No, but you seem to have a problem with "foreign people butting into your affairs". So, I'm asking you a similar question: Why do you keep butting into foreign affairs?

I see a correlation between imperialism and the love for guns.
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6 pages and there have been very few enlightening, measured responses from americans. just your usual rude and defensive tripe for the most part

just better get used to it america - get used to kids being massacred on a regular basis. it will keep happening, and i suspect, whether 'they' attempt a gun ban or not

there are just too many guns and too many deranged people with access to them

it will be like this forever, the horse bolted
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i believe that no society should have access to weapons... we are not adult enough to own them and never will be...
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