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Why do Americans need guns?

 
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an armed society is a polite society
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this
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Then why are you the most arrogant and violent people in the world?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30090477


You can argue we are arrogant. Fine. That has nothing to do with guns and everything with the USA being the sole superpower atm.

If you really think we are the most violent people in the world you need to turn off the TV and look at some countries in Africa in Asia.

We are the most armed people in the world. Yes. Owning guns doesn't equal violence.

The most violent cities in America are the ones with the strictest gun laws. The safest cities are the ones like Kennesaw, GA where your required to own a gun.

I don't understand why Liberals think that if you take ban guns there will be no more shootings. We banned drugs and everyone can get them. It would be the same with guns but instead of buying them legally, a huge black market would spring up.
 Quoting: l3ol3o


Are you sure about America being the sole cough "superpower" cough cough? It used to be, but now it's only a paper tiger.

China surpasses US as top global trader, but you never hear a Chinese brag about that.

It's a cultural thing to think you are better than the rest of the world and that's a friendly way to put it.

Ok, let me re-phrase that: Americans are BY FAR the most violent people in the Western world.
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6 pages and there have been very few enlightening, measured responses from americans. just your usual rude and defensive tripe for the most part

just better get used to it america - get used to kids being massacred on a regular basis. it will keep happening, and i suspect, whether 'they' attempt a gun ban or not

there are just too many guns and too many deranged people with access to them

it will be like this forever, the horse bolted
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If you would take the time to inform yourself rather than spewing BS political rhetoric you would be much happier in life.

The fact is, this type of shooting in on the decline in America. Don't take my word for it, that comes from the FBI.

The fact is, more Americans than ever own firearms, yet violent crime is down across the board, while gun ownership is at record highs.

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Freedom? You call owning a gun freedom? Bollocks. How? You think that having the ability to shoot someone is freedom? Oh my days, how naive! Why would you want to kill anyone? My daughter died, I feel anger but I don't want to take a life. You're barking mad. this is nuts, care and love not hate and murder.
 Quoting: Elemental

Alcohol kills way more, why aren't you saying anything about that? Hypocrite dumbshits.
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Re: Why do Americans need guns?
To keep away a tyrannical government
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This, to protect our freedoms from the likes of King George.....
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Re: Why do Americans need guns?
Because they are afraid.

Simple as that.

You run the given reasons back to the source and it's always just plain old fear.
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6 pages and there have been very few enlightening, measured responses from americans. just your usual rude and defensive tripe for the most part

just better get used to it america - get used to kids being massacred on a regular basis. it will keep happening, and i suspect, whether 'they' attempt a gun ban or not

there are just too many guns and too many deranged people with access to them

it will be like this forever, the horse bolted
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27667491


If you would take the time to inform yourself rather than spewing BS political rhetoric you would be much happier in life.

The fact is, this type of shooting in on the decline in America. Don't take my word for it, that comes from the FBI.

The fact is, more Americans than ever own firearms, yet violent crime is down across the board, while gun ownership is at record highs.

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THIS JUST IN

Man arrested after threatening to shoot up L.A. schools, police say

A Los Angeles man was arrested Sunday in connection with a Facebook post that threatened to conduct shootings at multiple area elementary schools, people familiar with the investigation said.

Investigators received information about the Facebook post on Sunday, sources said. When officers arrived at the suspect's Northeast Los Angeles home about 2 p.m., they found numerous weapons inside.

[link to latimesblogs.latimes.com]


Yeah right....
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Re: Why do Americans need guns?
Freedom? You call owning a gun freedom? Bollocks. How? You think that having the ability to shoot someone is freedom? Oh my days, how naive! Why would you want to kill anyone? My daughter died, I feel anger but I don't want to take a life. You're barking mad. this is nuts, care and love not hate and murder.
 Quoting: Elemental

Alcohol kills way more, why aren't you saying anything about that? Hypocrite dumbshits.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30123521


How do you massacre people with alcohol ?

Lol! Another laughable argument from a guntard.
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Freedom? You call owning a gun freedom? Bollocks. How? You think that having the ability to shoot someone is freedom? Oh my days, how naive! Why would you want to kill anyone? My daughter died, I feel anger but I don't want to take a life. You're barking mad. this is nuts, care and love not hate and murder.
 Quoting: Elemental

Alcohol kills way more, why aren't you saying anything about that? Hypocrite dumbshits.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30123521


How do you massacre people with alcohol ?

Lol! Another laughable argument from a guntard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30031812


It's really amazing...

Heart attacks kill way more, let's ban hearts.
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Freedom? You call owning a gun freedom? Bollocks. How? You think that having the ability to shoot someone is freedom? Oh my days, how naive! Why would you want to kill anyone? My daughter died, I feel anger but I don't want to take a life. You're barking mad. this is nuts, care and love not hate and murder.
 Quoting: Elemental

Alcohol kills way more, why aren't you saying anything about that? Hypocrite dumbshits.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30123521


How do you massacre people with alcohol ?

Lol! Another laughable argument from a guntard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30031812


It's really amazing...

Heart attacks kill way more, let's ban hearts.
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Yes and can you please ban cancer while you're at it. Thanks.
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Real question, why do foreign people keep butting into the affairs of others simply because they gave up their guns (yet still have astounding knife violence) and insist that Americans are "insecure and power tripping"?

I don't think you can compete with Aussie and British trolls right now on this.
 Quoting: Sneetch


Why do you keep butting into the affairs of others, with guns and heavy weaponry (sometimes depleted uranium) and act as if you are the police of the world?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30090477


Hey troll, did I authorize the war in the Middle East, build all the bases, and do a bunch of other shit I disagree with?

Yeah, nice try.
 Quoting: Sneetch


No, but you seem to have a problem with "foreign people butting into your affairs". So, I'm asking you a similar question: Why do you keep butting into foreign affairs?

I see a correlation between imperialism and the love for guns.
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Because i'm not the one butting into your affairs? You seem to want to pin these things over which I have no control with on me, like white guilt or something.
We were meant to live for so much more, have we lost ourselves?
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Re: Why do Americans need guns?
Freedom? You call owning a gun freedom? Bollocks. How? You think that having the ability to shoot someone is freedom? Oh my days, how naive! Why would you want to kill anyone? My daughter died, I feel anger but I don't want to take a life. You're barking mad. this is nuts, care and love not hate and murder.
 Quoting: Elemental

Alcohol kills way more, why aren't you saying anything about that? Hypocrite dumbshits.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30123521


How do you massacre people with alcohol ?

Lol! Another laughable argument from a guntard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30031812

People kill themselves, and drunk driving. Alcohol poisoning...
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Re: Why do Americans need guns?
What a retarded question.

Defense and Hunting.

#1 questions you retards need to address - How to defend yourself and your family during a home invasion when the perp has a gun.

My cousins brothers son - someone walked into his house in a small rural town and killed him in his sleep. Never caught.

The same cousins wife, after he was deceased was living alone. Perps broke in tied her to a chair and extorted money out of her. Left her like that at 78YO. They cam back a few days later and when she heard them coming in the window she fired a shot over there heads and that wrapped up the home invasion.

A friend, woman was at a gas station. 4 Perps pulled a knife and approached her with knives to kidnap and carjack her. She whipped out a 9mm and shot the lead guy in the knee. That wrapped up the car jacking.

My 94YO uncle almost had a home invasion. Guy showed up at the screen door and started in, aggressively, until he grabbed his double barrel.

Danny Rollings in gainsville or Ted Bundy.
A Pistol in one of the girls hands would have stopped that massacre.

How about the top 20 serial killers. I am sure one of there victims would have liked a pistols before there demise.

Fact is about 1 out of 100 people are psychopaths.

Of that groups some are violent out to lunch and psycho's. In society there are just some real violent nutbags, and if you dont have a way to defend yourself you could end up lunch.

This kid did not own guns, he stole them. He would have gotten them from somewhere sooner or later.

I personally would choose to defend myself from a violent psychopath or a criminal with a firearm.

You can use a butter knife if you want. I guess you could try some pepper spray or a taser while you are staring down the barrel of a shotgun.
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Re: Why do Americans need guns?
Freedom? You call owning a gun freedom? Bollocks. How? You think that having the ability to shoot someone is freedom? Oh my days, how naive! Why would you want to kill anyone? My daughter died, I feel anger but I don't want to take a life. You're barking mad. this is nuts, care and love not hate and murder.
 Quoting: Elemental

Alcohol kills way more, why aren't you saying anything about that? Hypocrite dumbshits.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30123521


Deny-mislead
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B e c a u s e w e a r e f r e e dumb ass.
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Freedom? You call owning a gun freedom? Bollocks. How? You think that having the ability to shoot someone is freedom? Oh my days, how naive! Why would you want to kill anyone? My daughter died, I feel anger but I don't want to take a life. You're barking mad. this is nuts, care and love not hate and murder.
 Quoting: Elemental

Alcohol kills way more, why aren't you saying anything about that? Hypocrite dumbshits.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30123521


How do you massacre people with alcohol ?

Lol! Another laughable argument from a guntard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30031812

80,000 die in the U.S yearly from Alcohol shit consumption. Pretty good argument actually, numbskull.
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Re: Why do Americans need guns?
Put it this way.

Imagine the scene of Nazis rounding up political enemies from homes.

Then imagine the possibility that any of the doors to these homes could have a gunowner pointing his weapon at that door.

It would make concentration camps like Auschwitz just about impossible to populate.

That is the point of gun ownership.
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Ok just a thought but why do Americans need guns? is it cos they are insecure and feel the need to protect themselves at all times? or is it cos it gives them a sense of power? or are there any other reasons for the need to have guns?
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Cause we feel like it.
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Basically...the US Bill of rights with the 2nd amendment was practically a carbon copy of the English bill of rights of the 17th century, where all persons were allowed to bear arms to protect themselves...from the Protestants! - complex but involved the English civil war etc

The founding fathers et al, stuck on the 2nd amendement with the purpose of it being applied to state militia groups, to protect as a collective...over the years, and unsure how, the 'collective' seemed to get to an individual...so before you slang off the 'Brits' - just bear in mind it was the English who gave the 'Americans' who originally were Welsh, Irish, Scots and Enlgish, the impetus for 'your' bill of rights and the 'right' to bear arms...but as a militia....
It is a complex scenario and one that is still being enacted out and discussed in the American courts.....
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Re: Why do Americans need guns?
If Lanza had just a knife how many children would be alive today? Most of them, maybe all. Have a gun to feel free is false excuse, marketing invention and tool for mass indoctrination.
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Re: Why do Americans need guns?
an armed society is a polite society
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that is days honest reality unfortunately.
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As to the mass shootings, I'd say that we have lost our moral compass. It doesn't matter if someone kills with a knife, an exposive device, poison or with fists.

If someone wants to kill, that person will kill. The means are not relevant.

Maybe we shouldn't encourage so much violence on TV, movies, and video games.
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If Lanza had just a knife how many children would be alive today? Most of them, maybe all. Have a gun to feel free is false excuse, marketing invention and tool for mass indoctrination.
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If Lanza bought guns illegally or a bomb? Plenty of examples of people defending themselves with guns.
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Why do you keep butting into the affairs of others, with guns and heavy weaponry (sometimes depleted uranium) and act as if you are the police of the world?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30090477


Hey troll, did I authorize the war in the Middle East, build all the bases, and do a bunch of other shit I disagree with?

Yeah, nice try.
 Quoting: Sneetch


No, but you seem to have a problem with "foreign people butting into your affairs". So, I'm asking you a similar question: Why do you keep butting into foreign affairs?

I see a correlation between imperialism and the love for guns.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30090477


Because i'm not the one butting into your affairs? You seem to want to pin these things over which I have no control with on me, like white guilt or something.
 Quoting: Sneetch


So, let me get this straight: You (plural, Americans) are allowed to butt into our (the rest of the world) affairs, but not vice versa?
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If Lanza had just a knife how many children would be alive today? Most of them, maybe all. Have a gun to feel free is false excuse, marketing invention and tool for mass indoctrination.
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If Lanza bought guns illegally or a bomb? Plenty of examples of people defending themselves with guns.
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Mislead-deny the obvious.
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At this point, 911, aurora theater, mall shooting, school shooting and temple shooting. Oh yeah, this stuff happening in uk (trains), france (schools)and european countries that don't have guns. I would say that we need to protect ourselves from this shadow government and their mercenary killers, it is not just America that they are shooting up, or blowing up.
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Hey troll, did I authorize the war in the Middle East, build all the bases, and do a bunch of other shit I disagree with?

Yeah, nice try.
 Quoting: Sneetch


No, but you seem to have a problem with "foreign people butting into your affairs". So, I'm asking you a similar question: Why do you keep butting into foreign affairs?

I see a correlation between imperialism and the love for guns.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30090477


Because i'm not the one butting into your affairs? You seem to want to pin these things over which I have no control with on me, like white guilt or something.
 Quoting: Sneetch


So, let me get this straight: You (plural, Americans) are allowed to butt into our (the rest of the world) affairs, but not vice versa?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30090477


Never heard of America giving two shits what Belgium does.
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Basically...the US Bill of rights with the 2nd amendment was practically a carbon copy of the English bill of rights of the 17th century, where all persons were allowed to bear arms to protect themselves...from the Protestants! - complex but involved the English civil war etc

The founding fathers et al, stuck on the 2nd amendement with the purpose of it being applied to state militia groups, to protect as a collective...over the years, and unsure how, the 'collective' seemed to get to an individual...so before you slang off the 'Brits' - just bear in mind it was the English who gave the 'Americans' who originally were Welsh, Irish, Scots and Enlgish, the impetus for 'your' bill of rights and the 'right' to bear arms...but as a militia....
It is a complex scenario and one that is still being enacted out and discussed in the American courts.....
 Quoting: Ambilac 24189004



I think you are missing the part where the Declaration of Independences says that Americans have a duty to change it's government when it's own becomes tyrannical.

They need to be able to form a militia of concerned citizens when that happens.

If we lose our ability to own arms, then enacting this would be impossible.


"..when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security..."
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I hope they confiscate all the guns!!!

Dumb Americans getting played like puppets don't deserve them!
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Hey troll, did I authorize the war in the Middle East, build all the bases, and do a bunch of other shit I disagree with?

Yeah, nice try.
 Quoting: Sneetch


No, but you seem to have a problem with "foreign people butting into your affairs". So, I'm asking you a similar question: Why do you keep butting into foreign affairs?

I see a correlation between imperialism and the love for guns.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30090477


Because i'm not the one butting into your affairs? You seem to want to pin these things over which I have no control with on me, like white guilt or something.
 Quoting: Sneetch


So, let me get this straight: You (plural, Americans) are allowed to butt into our (the rest of the world) affairs, but not vice versa?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30090477


Are you really that retarded?? You can't blame a nation of people for the actions of corrupted governments. This is exactly the kind of mentality that keeps us as people so fractured. Divide and rule. You simply can not judge an entire nation based on the actions of a few that don't represent the interests of the nation nor reflect their sentiment.

Think about it please!
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an armed society is a polite society
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+1

Everyone on the planet who can afford a gun, should buy one and open carry!

That's why, if I were to move to the USA (pure fantasy), I would like to settle in the state of Vermont.

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