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Why do Americans need guns?

 
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12/17/2012 05:28 PM
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Re: Why do Americans need guns?
We are a special society.

It is our right to bear arms.

I don't expect the rest of the world to understand.
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ohh I fully understand you're a 'special' society alright.
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"We" as individuals aren't special. But no other country in the world has or has ever had anything like the Declaration of Independence or the Bill of RIGHTS.
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The Bill of Rights is more than 300 years old and terribly outdated.

It's just a Goddamned piece if paper.
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Your also about 100 years off on your counting
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ohh I fully understand you're a 'special' society alright.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30125858


"We" as individuals aren't special. But no other country in the world has or has ever had anything like the Declaration of Independence or the Bill of RIGHTS.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


The Bill of Rights is more than 300 years old and terribly outdated.

It's just a Goddamned piece if paper.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30090477


Your also about 100 years off on your counting
 Quoting: sonic doom


1689?
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"We" as individuals aren't special. But no other country in the world has or has ever had anything like the Declaration of Independence or the Bill of RIGHTS.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


The Bill of Rights is more than 300 years old and terribly outdated.

It's just a Goddamned piece if paper.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30090477


Your also about 100 years off on your counting
 Quoting: sonic doom


1689?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30090477


the english bill of rights. I thought you were talking about the amendments
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12/17/2012 05:32 PM
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Re: Why do Americans need guns?
Ok just a thought but why do Americans need guns? is it cos they are insecure and feel the need to protect themselves at all times? or is it cos it gives them a sense of power? or are there any other reasons for the need to have guns?
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If we all are trained to use and carry a firearm, violent crime is non-existent, see the article attached about Kennesaw Ga., (You must carry a gun) see article 2 below


The city violent crime rate for Kennesaw in 2010 was lower than the national violent crime rate average by 85.16% and the city property crime rate in Kennesaw was lower than the national property crime rate average by 46.46%.

In 2010 the city violent crime rate in Kennesaw was lower than the violent crime rate in Georgia by 85.15% and the city property crime rate in Kennesaw was lower than the property crime rate in Georgia by 56.74%.

[link to www.cityrating.com]


Gun Town USA: In Kennesaw, Georgia it is compulsory - everyone MUST own a firearm

[link to www.mirror.co.uk]
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12/17/2012 05:33 PM
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Seduce the masses is very easy and the results are best seen on these tragedies.
Some people are so indoctrinated that they do not know more to think independently and rationally. So many weapons is not freedom, but iron slavery.
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12/17/2012 05:33 PM
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Honestly I do envy us-americans for their right to own guns. I wish we were granted the same right but we are not allowed ANY kind of self defense weapon, not even pepper spray.

This thread title is stupid. Why don't Germans have speed limit on the autobahn?
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Because they build shit-hot cars, and you've got the "Daf"?

cruise
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The Bill of Rights is more than 300 years old and terribly outdated.

It's just a Goddamned piece if paper.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30090477


Why do you care so much about our rights?
 Quoting: sonic doom


Because it kills innocent children...

Why do you care so much about the Middle East? Oil?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30090477


Who says I care what the middle east does. I'm just wondering why you are taking a tragedy and making it into a political agenda?
 Quoting: sonic doom


I know your username and what you think.

You're pro-zewish and a good muzzie is a dead muzzie (like 90% of the rest)
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12/17/2012 05:34 PM
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I wasn't expecting a real answer from an American in defense mode with a 2-figure IQ.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30090477


Dude, you're filled with nasty race hatred. You should get that sorted out about yourself. It's not pretty! It really isn't.
 Quoting: Defj@m


I didn't know that considering the vast majority of Americans as complete retards, was a racist thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30090477


Well, obviously it is as you're judging an entire group of people based on a single criteria. Where they live\What race they are!
 Quoting: Defj@m


Americans arent a race, hence not racist. Just sayin'.
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Ok just a thought but why do Americans need guns? is it cos they are insecure and feel the need to protect themselves at all times? or is it cos it gives them a sense of power? or are there any other reasons for the need to have guns?
 Quoting: KromaZone



If we all are trained to use and carry a firearm, violent crime is non-existent, see the article attached about Kennesaw Ga., (You must carry a gun) see article 2 below


The city violent crime rate for Kennesaw in 2010 was lower than the national violent crime rate average by 85.16% and the city property crime rate in Kennesaw was lower than the national property crime rate average by 46.46%.

In 2010 the city violent crime rate in Kennesaw was lower than the violent crime rate in Georgia by 85.15% and the city property crime rate in Kennesaw was lower than the property crime rate in Georgia by 56.74%.

[link to www.cityrating.com]


Gun Town USA: In Kennesaw, Georgia it is compulsory - everyone MUST own a firearm

[link to www.mirror.co.uk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1371470


Kennesaw is an object lesson in freedom.

"An armed society, is a polite society"
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12/17/2012 05:35 PM
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Re: Why do Americans need guns?
Because fuck you, that's why.
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12/17/2012 05:36 PM
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We need guns, as our founders knew we would, to ensure our ability to defend ourselves and our nation from tyrants who would seek to destroy us from within.

And as anyone can plainly see, the need now is more important than ever.
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We need guns, as our founders knew we would, to ensure our ability to defend ourselves and our nation from tyrants who would seek to destroy us from within.

And as anyone can plainly see, the need now is more important than ever.
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clappa
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Why do you care so much about our rights?
 Quoting: sonic doom


Because it kills innocent children...

Why do you care so much about the Middle East? Oil?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30090477


Who says I care what the middle east does. I'm just wondering why you are taking a tragedy and making it into a political agenda?
 Quoting: sonic doom


I know your username and what you think.

You're pro-zewish and a good muzzie is a dead muzzie (like 90% of the rest)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30090477


baby
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The Bill of Rights is more than 300 years old and terribly outdated.

It's just a Goddamned piece if paper.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30090477


Your also about 100 years off on your counting
 Quoting: sonic doom


1689?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30090477


the english bill of rights. I thought you were talking about the amendments
 Quoting: sonic doom


The amendments. You had me. Touché. Still outdated though.

We might as well re-introduce the Spaghetti Western culture to deal with conflicts. Why not?
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12/17/2012 05:39 PM
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Re: Why do Americans need guns?
Ok just a thought but why do Americans need guns? is it cos they are insecure and feel the need to protect themselves at all times? or is it cos it gives them a sense of power? or are there any other reasons for the need to have guns?
 Quoting: KromaZone


Why do you feel that you need to run your man pleaser?
"Psychopaths derive their power from the complicity of the populous..."


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Re: Why do Americans need guns?
To protect ourselves from a corrupt Government.pigchef
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clappa
"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him had better take a closer look at the American Indian."

~Henry Ford
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12/17/2012 05:42 PM
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To protect ourselves from a corrupt Government.pigchef
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29152731


clappa
 Quoting: train


So your government is clean now?

tounge
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12/17/2012 05:43 PM
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Dude, you're filled with nasty race hatred. You should get that sorted out about yourself. It's not pretty! It really isn't.
 Quoting: Defj@m


I didn't know that considering the vast majority of Americans as complete retards, was a racist thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30090477


Well, obviously it is as you're judging an entire group of people based on a single criteria. Where they live\What race they are!
 Quoting: Defj@m


Americans arent a race, hence not racist. Just sayin'.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30165763


From Dictionary.com:

race2 [reys] Show IPA
noun
1.
a group of persons related by common descent or heredity.
2.
a population so related.
3.
Anthropology .
a.
any of the traditional divisions of humankind, the commonest being the caucasian, Mongoloid, and Negro, characterized by supposedly distinctive and universal physical characteristics: no longer in technical use.
b.
an arbitrary classification of modern humans, sometimes, especially formerly, based on any or a combination of various physical characteristics, as skin color, facial form, or eye shape, and now frequently based on such genetic markers as blood groups.
c.
a human population partially isolated reproductively from other populations, whose members share a greater degree of physical and genetic similarity with one another than with other humans.
4.
a group of tribes or peoples forming an ethnic stock: the Slavic race.
5.
any people united by common history, language, cultural traits, etc.: the Dutch race.


So, you are in fact wrong. The Americans as a people are a race!

Last Edited by Defj@m on 12/17/2012 05:44 PM
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To protect ourselves from a corrupt Government.pigchef
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clappa
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Well we see how well that is going so far...

--> Citizens slaphim <--- Gubmint
We were meant to live for so much more, have we lost ourselves?
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12/17/2012 05:46 PM
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Re: Why do Americans need guns?
Because fuck you, that's why.
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Another highly intelligent American? 5a
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12/17/2012 05:49 PM
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Re: Why do Americans need guns?
I think that it comes down to this;

You you think 'government' is inherently good or evil?


Americans are taught to think that government is inherently evil.

So if that is correct, then it is American's duty to protect their families from this 'evil'.
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12/17/2012 05:51 PM
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Well, obviously it is as you're judging an entire group of people based on a single criteria. Where they live\What race they are!
 Quoting: Defj@m


Americans arent a race, hence not racist. Just sayin'.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30165763


From Dictionary.com:

race2 [reys] Show IPA
noun
1.
a group of persons related by common descent or heredity.
2.
a population so related.
3.
Anthropology .
a.
any of the traditional divisions of humankind, the commonest being the caucasian, Mongoloid, and Negro, characterized by supposedly distinctive and universal physical characteristics: no longer in technical use.
b.
an arbitrary classification of modern humans, sometimes, especially formerly, based on any or a combination of various physical characteristics, as skin color, facial form, or eye shape, and now frequently based on such genetic markers as blood groups.
c.
a human population partially isolated reproductively from other populations, whose members share a greater degree of physical and genetic similarity with one another than with other humans.
4.
a group of tribes or peoples forming an ethnic stock: the Slavic race.
5.
any people united by common history, language, cultural traits, etc.: the Dutch race.


So, you are in fact wrong. The Americans as a people are a race!
 Quoting: Defj@m


Persisent little n*gger. Oops, I just insulted a part of the American race.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30090477


Human race DING DONG, you insulted the human race,familiar with it are you?
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We are a special society.

It is our right to bear arms.

I don't expect the rest of the world to understand.
 Quoting: natasha77


ohh I fully understand you're a 'special' society alright.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30125858


"We" as individuals aren't special. But no other country in the world has or has ever had anything like the Declaration of Independence or the Bill of RIGHTS.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


The Bill of Rights is more than 300 years old and terribly outdated.

It's just a Goddamned piece if paper.


Other people have corrected you on the date,so I won't bother.

When you say it's just a G-D piece of paper, which one are you referring to ? Or in your ignorance are you referring to the U.S. Constitution?

Have you ever read the BOR or the Declaration of Independence?

Do you think you have answered the point I made by merely claiming "it's just a Goddamned piece of paper"?
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Americans arent a race, hence not racist. Just sayin'.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30165763


From Dictionary.com:

race2 [reys] Show IPA
noun
1.
a group of persons related by common descent or heredity.
2.
a population so related.
3.
Anthropology .
a.
any of the traditional divisions of humankind, the commonest being the caucasian, Mongoloid, and Negro, characterized by supposedly distinctive and universal physical characteristics: no longer in technical use.
b.
an arbitrary classification of modern humans, sometimes, especially formerly, based on any or a combination of various physical characteristics, as skin color, facial form, or eye shape, and now frequently based on such genetic markers as blood groups.
c.
a human population partially isolated reproductively from other populations, whose members share a greater degree of physical and genetic similarity with one another than with other humans.
4.
a group of tribes or peoples forming an ethnic stock: the Slavic race.
5.
any people united by common history, language, cultural traits, etc.: the Dutch race.


So, you are in fact wrong. The Americans as a people are a race!
 Quoting: Defj@m


Persisent little n*gger. Oops, I just insulted a part of the American race.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30090477


Human race DING DONG, you insulted the human race,familiar with it are you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1371470


Oh no...

Are you one of those there-are-no-races-brainwashed-by-the-leftists-people?
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ohh I fully understand you're a 'special' society alright.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30125858


"We" as individuals aren't special. But no other country in the world has or has ever had anything like the Declaration of Independence or the Bill of RIGHTS.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


The Bill of Rights is more than 300 years old and terribly outdated.

It's just a Goddamned piece if paper.


Other people have corrected you on the date,so I won't bother.

When you say it's just a G-D piece of paper, which one are you referring to ? Or in your ignorance are you referring to the U.S. Constitution?

Have you ever read the BOR or the Declaration of Independence?

Do you think you have answered the point I made by merely claiming "it's just a Goddamned piece of paper"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30090477


Yes. No. Yes.
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12/17/2012 05:59 PM
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Re: Why do Americans need guns?
It is like saying that the Mona Lisa is ugly because it was painted in 1503 - or Michaelangelo's painting of the Creation of Adam in 1511 is boring.

Or that Robert Browning's poetry in 1812 is lacking, or Shakespeare, or John Locke, or Jesus Christ's teaching.

It's idiotic thinking that because something is "old" it is outdated.
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From Dictionary.com:

race2 [reys] Show IPA
noun
1.
a group of persons related by common descent or heredity.
2.
a population so related.
3.
Anthropology .
a.
any of the traditional divisions of humankind, the commonest being the caucasian, Mongoloid, and Negro, characterized by supposedly distinctive and universal physical characteristics: no longer in technical use.
b.
an arbitrary classification of modern humans, sometimes, especially formerly, based on any or a combination of various physical characteristics, as skin color, facial form, or eye shape, and now frequently based on such genetic markers as blood groups.
c.
a human population partially isolated reproductively from other populations, whose members share a greater degree of physical and genetic similarity with one another than with other humans.
4.
a group of tribes or peoples forming an ethnic stock: the Slavic race.
5.
any people united by common history, language, cultural traits, etc.: the Dutch race.


So, you are in fact wrong. The Americans as a people are a race!
 Quoting: Defj@m


Persisent little n*gger. Oops, I just insulted a part of the American race.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30090477


Human race DING DONG, you insulted the human race,familiar with it are you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1371470


Oh no...

Are you one of those there-are-no-races-brainwashed-by-the-leftists-people?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30090477


Oh no sir, I'm one of those people that exclaims asswipes like you or asshat whatever you prefer are ignorant and bigoted. You see if I blindfolded you and assembled 5 different races, and had you by stethoscope listen to each heart, would you bet your life you could ID each race by heart beat? You could not, since we all have the same heart......where is yours?
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The concept that is totally "new" in the Bill of Rights, which differentiates it from it's English predecessors is the concept that governments are made by MAN, and can be abolished.

English tradition holds that it is the King that is chosen by God, and that the government holds it's own authority.

American tradition however, takes this to the next degree, pronouncing that government gets it's authority by the consent of the governed. Government only exists to protect the rights of the people.
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"We" as individuals aren't special. But no other country in the world has or has ever had anything like the Declaration of Independence or the Bill of RIGHTS.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


The Bill of Rights is more than 300 years old and terribly outdated.

It's just a Goddamned piece if paper.


Other people have corrected you on the date,so I won't bother.

When you say it's just a G-D piece of paper, which one are you referring to ? Or in your ignorance are you referring to the U.S. Constitution?

Have you ever read the BOR or the Declaration of Independence?

Do you think you have answered the point I made by merely claiming "it's just a Goddamned piece of paper"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30090477


Yes. No. Yes.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


This guy has well thought out, structured arguments... NOT!

He lost this futile battle many pages and posts ago! He's a hate filled, trolling idiot!
When you do things right people won't be sure you've done anything at all
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From Dictionary.com:

race2 [reys] Show IPA
noun
1.
a group of persons related by common descent or heredity.
2.
a population so related.
3.
Anthropology .
a.
any of the traditional divisions of humankind, the commonest being the caucasian, Mongoloid, and Negro, characterized by supposedly distinctive and universal physical characteristics: no longer in technical use.
b.
an arbitrary classification of modern humans, sometimes, especially formerly, based on any or a combination of various physical characteristics, as skin color, facial form, or eye shape, and now frequently based on such genetic markers as blood groups.
c.
a human population partially isolated reproductively from other populations, whose members share a greater degree of physical and genetic similarity with one another than with other humans.
4.
a group of tribes or peoples forming an ethnic stock: the Slavic race.
5.
any people united by common history, language, cultural traits, etc.: the Dutch race.


So, you are in fact wrong. The Americans as a people are a race!
 Quoting: Defj@m


Persisent little n*gger. Oops, I just insulted a part of the American race.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30090477


Human race DING DONG, you insulted the human race,familiar with it are you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1371470


Oh no...

Are you one of those there-are-no-races-brainwashed-by-the-leftists-people?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30090477


Oh no sir, I'm one of those people that exclaims asswipes like you or asshat whatever you prefer are ignorant and bigoted. You see if I blindfolded you and assembled 5 different races, and had you by stethoscope listen to each heart, would you bet your life you could ID each race by heart beat? You could not, since we all have the same heart......where is yours?

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