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Why do Americans need guns?

 
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We are a special society.

It is our right to bear arms.

I don't expect the rest of the world to understand.
 Quoting: natasha77



Well this is my reason for asking the question, to understand.
 Quoting: KromaZone


Me too, great question!
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12/17/2012 10:35 AM
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Why do we need guns?

"When you find yourself outsized, rely on us, we will equalize". - Sam Colt

Because my daughter is 5'3", 130 lbs. There is no way on earth she could ever defend herself against a 6'4" 250 lbs. man. I don't care if she was trained by Bruce Lee himself, she could never fight off a man of this size.

However, she is well trained in the use of handguns. Therefore, if she is home alone, I am confident she would be ablet to defend herself.

Simple as that.
 Quoting: Conspiracy Theorist


You are kidding yourself, the odds are that gun would be used against her, unless he was coming at her from the front, a back or side attack and she would be unarmed in a second.

Better to buy her a rape whistle and invest in some tactical training that can momentarily disable her attacker and allow her to flee.

Jm2c as a woman.
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Ok just a thought but why do Americans need guns? is it cos they are insecure and feel the need to protect themselves at all times? or is it cos it gives them a sense of power? or are there any other reasons for the need to have guns?
 Quoting: KromaZone


It's in our blood.
You see our ancestors put up with the redcoats.
We were under virtual martial law.
Soldiers could quarter their men in our homes,
at will.
(Thus the Third Amendment to the Constitution)

"No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered
in any house, without the consent of the owner,
nor in time of war,
but in a manner to be prescribed by law."

Our founders did NOT TRUST government, because they
learned from history. They knew that ALL men are
basically evil, so they gave us the Second Amendment,
securing the right to keep and bear arms, thus
POWER, the same power that Mao Tse Tung mentioned
would ALWAYS remain in the hands of the people.

The Second Amendment isn't about target shooting,
or deer hunting.
It gives the people, as a last resort to tyranny,
the POWER to overthrow a tyrannical government.

That is WHY we keep and treasure our arsenals of
weapons. No Adolph Hitler could EVER succeed in
America, and no KING could ever conquer us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29961838


Friday just changed that, they will force gun control on us now. Just like they did with the bailouts, healthcare reform and so-on....
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Why do we need guns?

"When you find yourself outsized, rely on us, we will equalize". - Sam Colt

Because my daughter is 5'3", 130 lbs. There is no way on earth she could ever defend herself against a 6'4" 250 lbs. man. I don't care if she was trained by Bruce Lee himself, she could never fight off a man of this size.

However, she is well trained in the use of handguns. Therefore, if she is home alone, I am confident she would be ablet to defend herself.

Simple as that.
 Quoting: Conspiracy Theorist


You are kidding yourself, the odds are that gun would be used against her, unless he was coming at her from the front, a back or side attack and she would be unarmed in a second.

Better to buy her a rape whistle and invest in some tactical training that can momentarily disable her attacker and allow her to flee.

Jm2c as a woman.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775


Your assertion is a myth and propaganda. Guns are used over 1 million times each year to protect the life of an innocent. These stories are never reported, only the deaths/murders are.

Educate yourself.

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We are a special society.

It is our right to bear arms.

I don't expect the rest of the world to understand.
 Quoting: natasha77


in the UK special = disabled
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30131587


haha yes I was thinking that ;0) so it kind of takes a different meaning dose it not. and I totally agree with him/her.
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Surely you need guns because other people have guns and if no one had them then you wouldnt need them?
 Quoting: Ladydoom


Exactly SmileyWink
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Why do you guys even have cops then?
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Why do we need guns?

"When you find yourself outsized, rely on us, we will equalize". - Sam Colt

Because my daughter is 5'3", 130 lbs. There is no way on earth she could ever defend herself against a 6'4" 250 lbs. man. I don't care if she was trained by Bruce Lee himself, she could never fight off a man of this size.

However, she is well trained in the use of handguns. Therefore, if she is home alone, I am confident she would be ablet to defend herself.

Simple as that.
 Quoting: Conspiracy Theorist


You are kidding yourself, the odds are that gun would be used against her, unless he was coming at her from the front, a back or side attack and she would be unarmed in a second.

Better to buy her a rape whistle and invest in some tactical training that can momentarily disable her attacker and allow her to flee.

Jm2c as a woman.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775

Herr, not actually, you are confusing target shooting in a range, that has to be done to the front (for security reasons), with tactical/defense/combat shooting, that teaches tecniques to shoot to your back and sides. The techniques that "momentarily disable" an attacker, like the OP that you replied pointed out correctly, don´t work 100% of the time and you have even worst odds if the person is bigger, drunk, drogged, etc. Just ask any experienced bouncer, they will tell you.
And a rape whistle where a gun didn´t work? C´mon...
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There are many reasons. Mexico sends tens of thousands of guns over a year, all being held by nationalists and illegals. I'm not saying that is bad, but it is a reason for self defense. After a crime is committed with a gun, that gun is supposed to be destroyed or held permanently; most of which are being given out by dirty cops. Gangs have A LOT of weaponry, including grenades and rocket launchers.

(protection against people)

Secondly, a mountain lion tried to break into my house about 2 years ago. If it were not for my gun, I wouldn't be typing this to you. Likewise, if you have an egg farm (raising chickens) and you are reliant on that income/food source a coyote could have you starve to death in one nights ransacking.

(protection against animals)

Thirdly, with the cost of food sharply rising. I can go out and hunt down a deer to feed my family for pennies on the dollar.

(food source)

With all of those reasons to own a gun. Proper handling and ability to shoot when needed is a must. That is why a person should create good habits when handling their guns. Otherwise, how would a person know that the first thing you should do when taking a gun it to check if it it loaded. Or how to remove a jam without killing yourself or another person. With people having to practice proper handling and shooting, sport is made :)
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Why do we need guns?

"When you find yourself outsized, rely on us, we will equalize". - Sam Colt

Because my daughter is 5'3", 130 lbs. There is no way on earth she could ever defend herself against a 6'4" 250 lbs. man. I don't care if she was trained by Bruce Lee himself, she could never fight off a man of this size.

However, she is well trained in the use of handguns. Therefore, if she is home alone, I am confident she would be ablet to defend herself.

Simple as that.
 Quoting: Conspiracy Theorist


You are kidding yourself, the odds are that gun would be used against her, unless he was coming at her from the front, a back or side attack and she would be unarmed in a second.

Better to buy her a rape whistle and invest in some tactical training that can momentarily disable her attacker and allow her to flee.

Jm2c as a woman.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775

Herr, not actually, you are confusing target shooting in a range, that has to be done to the front (for security reasons), with tactical/defense/combat shooting, that teaches tecniques to shoot to your back and sides. The techniques that "momentarily disable" an attacker, like the OP that you replied pointed out correctly, don´t work 100% of the time and you have even worst odds if the person is bigger, drunk, drogged, etc. Just ask any experienced bouncer, they will tell you.
And a rape whistle where a gun didn´t work? C´mon...
 Quoting: Zombietard


If you are grabbed from behind, you have no chance to pull your gun out of your purse. K
Knowing where to hit your attacker gives you a fighting chance to run away or at least time to pull out the gun, but saying that just because you carry one you are safe is an idiotic response.
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Where were you anti-gun crusaders a week ago?

Proves the mind control of the Sandy Hook event is working on your feeble minds.

The MSM has deliberately programmed you into a perpetual state of fear and conditioned thinking.

Good luck when you're looking down the barrel with an Adam Lanza type on the other end...I've been there, I know how it feels and I got to kiss my wife and son this morning b/c a gun saved my life.
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Re: Why do Americans need guns?
so we don't end up like you Brits......
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Se need them now more than ever, since they have unleashed demons into our society.

We need to conceal carry and take 'em down, so there is no safe place(gunless) for them to hone in on.
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Re: Why do Americans need guns?
So we don't end up like Egypt.

"When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
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Cowards hiding behind something powerful
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Because it's the law and the law says that right shall not be infringed.
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Why do we need guns?

"When you find yourself outsized, rely on us, we will equalize". - Sam Colt

Because my daughter is 5'3", 130 lbs. There is no way on earth she could ever defend herself against a 6'4" 250 lbs. man. I don't care if she was trained by Bruce Lee himself, she could never fight off a man of this size.

However, she is well trained in the use of handguns. Therefore, if she is home alone, I am confident she would be ablet to defend herself.

Simple as that.
 Quoting: Conspiracy Theorist


You are kidding yourself, the odds are that gun would be used against her, unless he was coming at her from the front, a back or side attack and she would be unarmed in a second.

Better to buy her a rape whistle and invest in some tactical training that can momentarily disable her attacker and allow her to flee.

Jm2c as a woman.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775

Herr, not actually, you are confusing target shooting in a range, that has to be done to the front (for security reasons), with tactical/defense/combat shooting, that teaches tecniques to shoot to your back and sides. The techniques that "momentarily disable" an attacker, like the OP that you replied pointed out correctly, don´t work 100% of the time and you have even worst odds if the person is bigger, drunk, drogged, etc. Just ask any experienced bouncer, they will tell you.
And a rape whistle where a gun didn´t work? C´mon...
 Quoting: Zombietard


If you are grabbed from behind, you have no chance to pull your gun out of your purse. K
Knowing where to hit your attacker gives you a fighting chance to run away or at least time to pull out the gun, but saying that just because you carry one you are safe is an idiotic response.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775


Then again, no, there are several techniques you can use to draw your gun and shoot to someone that is grabbing from behind, usually, you do some self defence technique to help you gain time to withdraw the gun. Another thing that unexperienced people do is to carry on a purse or bag, if possible (wheather allowing) the gun always ride in your waist. Always.
You should visit some shooting academies over there. I can see that you have a lot of basic questions that can easily be answered by a qualified instructor.
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Why do you need them not to have guns?
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Because :

A) my house has never been robbed
B) I have never been robbed myself
C) NO ONE ELSE HAS A GUN
D) there is no need for a gun
E) Shootings such as this DO happen in England, there was a shooting last year. The fist in something like 10 years. Therefore, your argument that banning guns will make the place more dangerous is poor.

If everyone carried a gun then there will be no street robberies etc, your "for protection" idea is at least misguided.
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Why do you need them not to have guns?
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Because :

A) my house has never been robbed
B) I have never been robbed myself
C) NO ONE ELSE HAS A GUN
D) there is no need for a gun
E) Shootings such as this DO happen in England, there was a shooting last year. The fist in something like 10 years. Therefore, your argument that banning guns will make the place more dangerous is poor.

If everyone carried a gun then there will be no street robberies etc, your "for protection" idea is at least misguided.
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Never heard of a strong arm robbery, eh?

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"If I didn’t have this gun, the King of England could just walk in here any time he wants, and start shoving you around." ~Homer


"A gun is not a weapon. It’s a tool. Like a butcher knife, or a harpoon, or…uh, a…an alligator. You just need more education on the subject. Tell you what. You come with me to an N.R.A. meeting, and if you still don’t think guns are great…we can argue some more." ~(also)Homer


All the other best quotes were taken. Believe me, if you have ever been violently attacked in a society where gun ownership is legal, you will never pass a gun counter again without looking. The cold hard truth is, society in general is collapsing at an alarming speed. I would be ashamed to face my family knowing I did not do everything I could to defend them from injustice. This also comes with a slew of responsibilities and additional safeguards one must follow:

*Never leave a weapon where a child can get it.

*Store ammo in a clean, dry environment, preferably away from the weapon. If you don't have the time to load your weapon, you should not be firing it. This prevents waking suddenly and shooting your son going to get his first glass of water alone at night, and the unnecessary tragedy of attempting to shoot at an entire swat team busting into your room at night (You would not win anyway, you aren't an action star.)

*Never leave a weapon where a child can get it.

*Do not produce your weapon on the street unless it is to be used. A firearm is like an adrenaline charged, last-ditch, all-out, Mighty Uppercut. You end a confrontation with it, not incite one. Do not pull unless ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN that if you do not you will die, and if you have to do it, do not hesitate.

*Never leave a weapon where a CHILD can get it!

*Don't play with your guns, unloaded or not. The last thing your want your children to do is see you playing with that toy that you tell them not to touch.

*Locks

It is not responsible adults loosing their cheese and wanting to play SoCom, it is those that are handling their weapons inappropriately causing this abomination. And it is true that even if they could successfully remove all firearms from society, then they would switch to swords, cars, makeshift bombs, or clubs. But if someone does go psycho and decide to shoot up somewhere you are, you will be grateful for someone else who came prepared.

For every one of these horrible incidents, many more are averted by the very thing that is now being vilified here-Guns. Or more accurately, Gun owners. For it is not the weapon he wields, but the cause for which he wields it.

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There is nothing wrong with RESPONSIBLE gun ownership.

However, keeping guns and ammo in a home with a mentally unstable person, especially one on meds is NOT responsible gun ownership.

Teaching said mentally unstable person how to use the guns is even more irresponsible.

Just as in other things, one needs to use common sense in their life.
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Cowards hiding behind something powerful
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Like Canada hiding behind the US
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i believe that no society should have access to weapons... we are not adult enough to own them and never will be...
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We are a special society.

It is our right to bear arms.

I don't expect the rest of the world to understand.
 Quoting: natasha77



Well this is my reason for asking the question, to understand.
 Quoting: KromaZone


Me too, great question!
 Quoting: Elemental


British don't understand toothbrushes and dentists, we don't expect you to understand OUR laws.
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i believe that no society should have access to weapons... we are not adult enough to own them and never will be...
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Suck a D
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Why do Americans need guns?: To put fear in the minds of those that 'govern' - to keep them in check by fear of death.
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Because if we didn't we would still be a British Colony.
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Ok just a thought but why do Americans need guns? is it cos they are insecure and feel the need to protect themselves at all times? or is it cos it gives them a sense of power? or are there any other reasons for the need to have guns?
 Quoting: KromaZone


We are overrun whith urban gangs and illegals, on top of all that there is a need for are government to sell these urban animals cocaine and crack cocaine just to make sure they get the ultimate violence out of them. Any other questions?
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Why do you need them not to have guns?
 Quoting: NonAlignedEntity


Because :

A) my house has never been robbed
B) I have never been robbed myself
C) NO ONE ELSE HAS A GUN
D) there is no need for a gun
E) Shootings such as this DO happen in England, there was a shooting last year. The fist in something like 10 years. Therefore, your argument that banning guns will make the place more dangerous is poor.

If everyone carried a gun then there will be no street robberies etc, your "for protection" idea is at least misguided.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9094168


(Bold for emphasis)

While I do agree with you that it can work, the sorrowful truth is that train left the station over a century ago for us. Now, there are far too many guns floating around that the government does NOT know of that the criminal element will have easy access to, while the compliant law abiding citizens give up their weapons...

See the problem here? It works great over there. You did not have an old west phase, and very little guns are to be had. Do they get in? sure, but the demand is lower.

Tell you what, take a look at any celebratory video from the middle east and try to not see a young child shooting a fully automatic weapon in the crowd. Now that is dire need of gun control.
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