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Why do Americans need guns?

 
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12/17/2012 06:28 PM
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I think what is being overlooked by those that want stronger gun control is the fact that even without guns the U.S. homicide rate would still be higher than most EU countries. We would still be looking at 1.9 homicides per 100,000 after removing those involving guns. That is higher than the UK, Ireland, France and Poland. Obviously Americans are a violent group by nature.
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We have a huge immigration rate.
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12/17/2012 06:34 PM
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Why do foreigners need to keep asking questions about stuff that is none of their fucking business?
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Why do foreigners need to keep asking questions about stuff that is none of their fucking business?
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12/17/2012 06:41 PM
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Why do foreigners need to keep asking questions about stuff that is none of their fucking business?
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Why do foreigners need to keep asking questions about stuff that is none of their fucking business?
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I think its just the Brits screaming, they know all they have to do is take a short trip to Northern Ireland and get any weapon of choice they want. Also its not like you cant just go out and get a big knife like the guy in China did. If you want to do something horrific like this, gun control laws arent going to stop you, they are just going to make it a bit more difficult, and change the weapon of choice. Remember Tim McVeigh killed 168 with fertilizer and fuel.
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12/17/2012 06:43 PM
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Why do foreigners need to keep asking questions about stuff that is none of their fucking business?
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Why do foreigners need to keep asking questions about stuff that is none of their fucking business?
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I think its just the Brits screaming, they know all they have to do is take a short trip to Northern Ireland and get any weapon of choice they want. Also its not like you cant just go out and get a big knife like the guy in China did. If you want to do something horrific like this, gun control laws arent going to stop you, they are just going to make it a bit more difficult, and change the weapon of choice. Remember Tim McVeigh killed 168 with fertilizer and fuel.
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SURE, HE DID. SUUUUUUUURE!

You fucking sheep.

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12/17/2012 07:01 PM
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Re: Why do Americans need guns?
Very Interesting thread ..........

It appears to me that Americans live in Fear 24/7
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12/17/2012 07:14 PM
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Very Interesting thread ..........

It appears to me that Americans live in Fear 24/7
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12/17/2012 07:21 PM
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Very Interesting thread ..........

It appears to me that Americans live in Fear 24/7
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everyone in that footage had the Fear !!!!!
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12/17/2012 07:26 PM
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Very Interesting thread ..........

It appears to me that Americans live in Fear 24/7
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Concidering you are twice as likely to get robbed in London as opposed to New York, or 7 times more likely to get burglerized, you tell me who should be frightened 24/7.
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12/17/2012 07:27 PM
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Re: Why do Americans need guns?
To keep the rest of you idiots free... iamwith
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12/17/2012 07:31 PM
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Re: Why do Americans need guns?
This country is huge with a lot of open spaces OP. Unlike Europe where people are packed in like sardines. A lot of small rural towns don't even have an active duty police officer. I would say it is their God given right to protect their home and land however they see fit....real police can be up to an hour away in a lot of places
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Re: Why do Americans need guns?
Very Interesting thread ..........

It appears to me that Americans live in Fear 24/7
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[link to www.youtube.com]
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everyone in that footage had the Fear !!!!!
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1 did not.
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Very Interesting thread ..........

It appears to me that Americans live in Fear 24/7
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15481119


[link to www.youtube.com]
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everyone in that footage had the Fear !!!!!
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1 did not.
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That wouldnt happen in england, Grandpa would have been charged even if it was his own home that was being invaded, no such thing as self defense, how sad.
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12/17/2012 07:48 PM
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Re: Why do Americans need guns?
Let's make a thought-experiment.

Society is split into two segments, divided by a wall. On the other side guns are allowed and everybody is free to kill each other. The other side bans guns.

Then each person must choose which side of the wall to live. Where would you like to go?
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Ok lets, I will take the gun side where I have the right to defend my family and personal property. The people on the other side of the wall will eventually try to climb to the gun side for protection from their police state giving them just enough shelter and food to survive.
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12/18/2012 12:54 AM

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Very Interesting thread ..........

It appears to me that Americans live in Fear 24/7
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+1
still cowboys
moral reasoning takes about 250 miliseconds
we make errors in between
perception->relation->behaviour
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12/18/2012 01:10 AM
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Re: Why do Americans need guns?
Let's make a thought-experiment.

Society is split into two segments, divided by a wall. On the other side guns are allowed and everybody is free to kill each other. The other side bans guns.

Then each person must choose which side of the wall to live. Where would you like to go?
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Are you some kinda Commie-Pinko?

Finland has loads of legally-owned guns, and good for them!

You must be an Arab parasite, or a 14-year old dipshit.
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Guns are for killing. If you own a gun you must be wanting to kill somebody. You want to kill somebody? You bad. Nobody should be allowed to own a gun.
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12/18/2012 01:52 AM
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Let's make a thought-experiment.

Society is split into two segments, divided by a wall. On the other side guns are allowed and everybody is free to kill each other. The other side bans guns.

Then each person must choose which side of the wall to live. Where would you like to go?
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Are you some kinda Commie-Pinko?

Finland has loads of legally-owned guns, and good for them!

You must be an Arab parasite, or a 14-year old dipshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30152268


Guns are for killing. If you own a gun you must be wanting to kill somebody. You want to kill somebody? You bad. Nobody should be allowed to own a gun.
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Really, with all the guns owned by law-abiding American citizens and you focus upon the crimes committed by criminals, gang members and those with mental illness. Further Finland is deep into socialism, much of your will and integrity has been eroded, and you plod along through life according to the status quo not very enriching.

One cannot base crime rates strictly by numbers as there is a huge population difference and percentage per capita is a better indicator.

Granted you are a highly regulated and controlled country that has few gun crimes however please explain why your assault statistics are higher than in America along with your rape statistics.

However, the most telling is your high suicide rates perhaps your spirits are impeded by so much government regulation.

Finland Assault victims - 2.1% - 6th of 20
United States Assault victims - 1.2% - 11th of 20

Finland - Rape victims - 1.1% - 3rd of 20
United States - Rape victims - 0.4% - 13th of 20

Finland - Suicide rates in ages 15-24 - 22.8 per 100,000 people - 2nd of 17
United States - Suicide rates in ages 15-24 -13.7 per 100,000 people - 7th of 17

Finland - Suicide rates in ages 25-34 - 33 per 100,000 people - 1st of 17
United States - Suicide rates in ages 25-34 - 15.3 per 100,000 people - 10th of 17

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Defj@m

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12/18/2012 04:03 AM
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Re: Why do Americans need guns?
Let's make a thought-experiment.

Society is split into two segments, divided by a wall. On the other side guns are allowed and everybody is free to kill each other. The other side bans guns.

Then each person must choose which side of the wall to live. Where would you like to go?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14296220


Are you some kinda Commie-Pinko?

Finland has loads of legally-owned guns, and good for them!

You must be an Arab parasite, or a 14-year old dipshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30152268


Guns are for killing. If you own a gun you must be wanting to kill somebody. You want to kill somebody? You bad. Nobody should be allowed to own a gun.
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Are you really that stupid as to simplify things to such an infantile level. Come to think of it you don't sound much older than a 10 year old.

Why is this difficult to grasp? Criminals will ALWAYS own guns, whether they are legal or not. To ban them takes regular people's ability away to defend themselves from criminals. All you do by banning them is hand over more power and control to the criminals. Street crime goes up, house invasions go up as the criminals have no deterrent from doing these things because they know there is very little chance they will be challenged by anyone. Free reign.

Also, your opinion that you should not be allowed to own a gun only really applies to your own country. What right do you have to say that no one should be allowed to own a gun in the US? It's a different society, different culture that you have little to no understanding about. You can't apply your own countries idealisms to another country and expect them to fit. Yes, I am also from another country but I can grasp this incredibly simple concept and keep an open mind whilst discussing it, unlike the vast majority of retards from my own country and others that see fit to stick their nose into this thread with nothing but trolling and hatred.

Grow up guys and open your mind up to the fact that the world is a very different place dependant on which part of it you are standing on.
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12/18/2012 09:52 AM
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Re: Why do Americans need guns?
I pulled through a police checkpoint once. The officer asked me if I had any firearms in the car.

I said yes, I have .357 in the center console, a .45 in the glove department, and a 12 ga. shotgun in the trunk.

The officer asked what I was so afraid of that I needed so many guns.

I answered, "nothing, i'm not afraid of a damn thing". "Have a good day sir."

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Let's make a thought-experiment.

Society is split into two segments, divided by a wall. On the other side guns are allowed and everybody is free to kill each other. The other side bans guns.

Then each person must choose which side of the wall to live. Where would you like to go?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14296220


Are you some kinda Commie-Pinko?

Finland has loads of legally-owned guns, and good for them!

You must be an Arab parasite, or a 14-year old dipshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30152268


Guns are for killing. If you own a gun you must be wanting to kill somebody. You want to kill somebody? You bad. Nobody should be allowed to own a gun.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14296220


Are you really that stupid as to simplify things to such an infantile level. Come to think of it you don't sound much older than a 10 year old.

Why is this difficult to grasp? Criminals will ALWAYS own guns, whether they are legal or not. To ban them takes regular people's ability away to defend themselves from criminals. All you do by banning them is hand over more power and control to the criminals. Street crime goes up, house invasions go up as the criminals have no deterrent from doing these things because they know there is very little chance they will be challenged by anyone. Free reign.

Also, your opinion that you should not be allowed to own a gun only really applies to your own country. What right do you have to say that no one should be allowed to own a gun in the US? It's a different society, different culture that you have little to no understanding about. You can't apply your own countries idealisms to another country and expect them to fit. Yes, I am also from another country but I can grasp this incredibly simple concept and keep an open mind whilst discussing it, unlike the vast majority of retards from my own country and others that see fit to stick their nose into this thread with nothing but trolling and hatred.

Grow up guys and open your mind up to the fact that the world is a very different place dependant on which part of it you are standing on.
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Good post.
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