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I just killed some redcoats in assassins creed 3.5a
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We all know that video games caused both world wars, the extinction of the American Indians and the Holocaust, right...?
I have yet to see someone being shot with a video game. As far as I know it is always done by people who do real-life gun training, often encouraged by their parents. But keep on killing your children and keep on blaming games for things real guns did.
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Or, like some people, you could keep blaming guns for things that real people did...
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Retarded ass governor reporting the most retarded ass shit, it ain't even the video games that makes people go over the edge...

It's the retarded quality of life that the governor helped contribute to that drives the behavior that people look to "escape" to.

It's when these sorry fuckers realize that the world is garbage the way we handle things that sends them over the edge. I blame the governor and the rest of government for making things so painful for most people to endure

If it wasn't for the bullshit that the average American needs to go through just to survive, perhaps we wouldn't have as much violence as it is, with or without video games.
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Nope. Can't believe it. Here's why.

Before there was all of this kid on kid crime, the parent was removed from the home and from being able to discipline the child. This is where it started. No guidance, no rules, no oversight of the child's morality from parents, or the community. The Government raises our children these days.

Except for the few, like you, Koffee, who understand the role of good parenting.
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I personally know someone who has struggled for almost twenty years raising a son who has a personality disorder. The doctor's kept changing the diagnosis and his medication, which caused the parents much confusion and frustration as they did not know how best to treat him. His first diagnosis WAS Asperger's Syndrome, but then they changed it.

He has been taking adult meds since he was 4! I believe the medication contributes to his condition.

The point I'm trying to make here, is that these parents devoted much time, money and love to raising this child. I've seen what they've gone through. I've seen the fear they had once he grew, and got older--and at time became uncontrollable. They did more than their best to keep his "mental issues" at bay.

There is some truth in what you have to say--the government does raise many of the children these days.

Maybe the good that will come out of this is parents will become more aware and more involved in the care and nurture of their children.
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It's the poor nutrition. The lack of nutrients in foods is the primary factor is many so called "personality" disorders.

It's been said many times on this site.

The lack of essential minerals such as magnesium and iodine cause multiple issues not only in the brain but hormonally as well.

I don't even know where to start on such a topic as its so encompassing and far reaching.

Anyway, addressing the root of a problem yields better results.

Thread: The Magnesium Riddle and Your Health.
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Thank you for that link. hf
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I just killed some redcoats in assassins creed 3.5a
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hell theres violence in the news
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Exactly, the "news" these days is nothing but morbid tales of murder but yet its the video games, of course , the video games.....
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Here's a new Video Game kids... its called Reaper Drone Attack...

Oh, forgot to tell you your joystick and game controller and the computer and the internet you are playing across are tied into flight control and weapons systems on real Reaper Drones halfway around the world.. killing real people.

This is what war game videos and even 'decoy' video games were all designed about with such huge investments for development, for the DoD.

Get a clue...

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It's the poor nutrition. The lack of nutrients in foods is the primary factor is many so called "personality" disorders.

It's been said many times on this site.

The lack of essential minerals such as magnesium and iodine cause multiple issues not only in the brain but hormonally as well.

I don't even know where to start on such a topic as its so encompassing and far reaching.

Anyway, addressing the root of a problem yields better results.

Thread: The Magnesium Riddle and Your Health.
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That's a very good point. Add in the fact that the government and modern society frown upon actual discipline. It also seems like today's society tries to fool children into thinking everyone is #1 and that the world is some fairy tale that always works out "your way, right away".

What sort of mental reaction do you think takes place when you realize you spent countless years in school, racking up debt, to sit around unemployed or working just to see the next day. There are too many stresses in today's lifestyle and the only real outlet people have these days are medical/drugs and technology. Too many parents expect their ipad, ipod, iphone, tv, etc to raise their kid for them, teach them right from wrong, and develop a moral responsibility while trying to maintain a sense of unwavering integrity.

As a species, I think we gave up on ourselves and our children eons ago when we gave up real work for a genetically and technology modified life.
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Nope. Can't believe it. Here's why.

Before there was all of this kid on kid crime, the parent was removed from the home and from being able to discipline the child. This is where it started. No guidance, no rules, no oversight of the child's morality from parents, or the community. The Government raises our children these days.

Except for the few, like you, Koffee, who understand the role of good parenting.
 Quoting: Éireann


I personally know someone who has struggled for almost twenty years raising a son who has a personality disorder. The doctor's kept changing the diagnosis and his medication, which caused the parents much confusion and frustration as they did not know how best to treat him. His first diagnosis WAS Asperger's Syndrome, but then they changed it.

He has been taking adult meds since he was 4! I believe the medication contributes to his condition.

The point I'm trying to make here, is that these parents devoted much time, money and love to raising this child. I've seen what they've gone through. I've seen the fear they had once he grew, and got older--and at time became uncontrollable. They did more than their best to keep his "mental issues" at bay.

There is some truth in what you have to say--the government does raise many of the children these days.

Maybe the good that will come out of this is parents will become more aware and more involved in the care and nurture of their children.
 Quoting: KoFFee_


It's the poor nutrition. The lack of nutrients in foods is the primary factor is many so called "personality" disorders.

It's been said many times on this site.

The lack of essential minerals such as magnesium and iodine cause multiple issues not only in the brain but hormonally as well.

I don't even know where to start on such a topic as its so encompassing and far reaching.

Anyway, addressing the root of a problem yields better results.

Thread: The Magnesium Riddle and Your Health.
 Quoting: Goob


The one son that I mentioned who reacts more aggresively towards video games, does have a history of frequent doctor visits for the many problems he had with allergies.

He was diagnosed with multiple food allergies--and an allergy to mold. Mold was the worst.

I believe frequent antibiotic use coupled with living in a moldy environment attributed to his aggresive behaviour when he was young. We lived in moldy Florida at the time.

I know magnesium is a beneficial supplement--it has a calming effect on the individual.

Yes, what we ingest does play a huge part in how we feel.

Thank you for the link--I've bookmarked it for later.

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I just killed some redcoats in assassins creed 3.5a
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Screen memories.. screen remapping.. who you killed in reality were not redcoats on LCD dots on a screen.. your control and display were all remapped at the other side of the "cloud". Those were redcoats... those were three little six year old girls in Afganistan, trying to learn how to read.

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Violent video games is school for the little cowards that sit in rooms operating drones that kill thousands of innocent men, women and children. Come on now, we don't want to lose those invaluable jobs now, do we?
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As a pretty avid vidya gamer in my past years, I'd say that video games are still just another scapegoat along with guns. Think about it, so this crazy person uses video games to vicariously live out his fantasies in some ways, so then we ban these video games. Still, he is able to write fiction, draw pictures, and use other mediums to entertain his mind, as a lot of crazy people do (seriously, are there any serial killers who didn't write/draw their desires?).

On to another thing, "vidya makes you more aggressive", I will agree to an extent with this. Certain competitive games do make you more aggressive, I can remember the occasional game where you can't help but get very frustrated/pissed off. However, I believe this comes from the competitiveness of the game you're playing, same thing with sports and other activities pitting people against each other.

For my last opinion, I will agree that it isn't good for children basically being raised on video games. I played these violent video games at the ripe age of 13 as well, but my dad also took me hunting and I was around guns, and knew that they were a good past time but that they were also not toys. I had the capability of distinguishing video games from reality, so maybe that helped.
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Retarded ass governor reporting the most retarded ass shit, it ain't even the video games that makes people go over the edge...

It's the retarded quality of life that the governor helped contribute to that drives the behavior that people look to "escape" to.

It's when these sorry fuckers realize that the world is garbage the way we handle things that sends them over the edge. I blame the governor and the rest of government for making things so painful for most people to endure

If it wasn't for the bullshit that the average American needs to go through just to survive, perhaps we wouldn't have as much violence as it is, with or without video games.
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I get you on that, the painful fucking endurance one must have to even exist. We are kept sick, medicated, or paid for our silence. It is with this they bought our souls.

No. Some things, principles, are more important than our comforts or our lives.

This is caused intentionally.

it is with the longterm exposure to violence that can change some one. We also have to get that.

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Violent video games is school for the little cowards that sit in rooms operating drones that kill thousands of innocent men, women and children. Come on now, we don't want to lose those invaluable jobs now, do we?
 Quoting: Light to Go


And non violent video games is school for the courageous knights, the bastions of light we call...?

I get it, some dumb asses play violent video games and are also violent towards others. Are you really going to sit there and say that your an intelligible person who is capable of thinking and therefore can carry on a serious conversation and that's your answer?

We all know video games has abso-fucking-lutely nothing to do with the fact that these people are unstable and violent to begin with. In fact, I would not be surprised to learn about more violence from NFL players than video gamers...

Stop hating on the video games. Its about as rational and logical as a suggestion to God to develop a 2nd asshole inside of our nostrils. Its stupid, makes no sense, and in the end, has little bearing on the true direction society is going.
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potkettle
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bsflag
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it's absolutely the same thing.

blaming an object instead of the individual.
 Quoting: Oyster


If that individual didn't have the guns at his disposal, none of those children would have died.
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You don't know that.
He may have planted bombs instead.
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bsflag
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it's absolutely the same thing.

blaming an object instead of the individual.
 Quoting: Oyster


If that individual didn't have the guns at his disposal, none of those children would have died.
 Quoting: TheSeventhGate


You don't know that.
He may have planted bombs instead.
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Or he could have become a president...
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As a pretty avid vidya gamer in my past years, I'd say that video games are still just another scapegoat along with guns. Think about it, so this crazy person uses video games to vicariously live out his fantasies in some ways, so then we ban these video games. Still, he is able to write fiction, draw pictures, and use other mediums to entertain his mind, as a lot of crazy people do (seriously, are there any serial killers who didn't write/draw their desires?).

On to another thing, "vidya makes you more aggressive", I will agree to an extent with this. Certain competitive games do make you more aggressive, I can remember the occasional game where you can't help but get very frustrated/pissed off. However, I believe this comes from the competitiveness of the game you're playing, same thing with sports and other activities pitting people against each other.

For my last opinion, I will agree that it isn't good for children basically being raised on video games. I played these violent video games at the ripe age of 13 as well, but my dad also took me hunting and I was around guns, and knew that they were a good past time but that they were also not toys. I had the capability of distinguishing video games from reality, so maybe that helped.
 Quoting: Sneetch

Video games reveal how some people might react when placed in a stressful and undesirable situation.

Learning how to manage your anger is what is needed.

Those with an ill mind can't comprehend rationally and will react more from the moment they are in than rather, wait, pause, reflect and think things over.

My son would get frustrated more when he played with multiple players who didn't know what they were doing. I can understand that, I would be frustrated, too.
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Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him;
and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.
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Video games reveal how some people might react when placed in a stressful and undesirable situation.

Learning how to manage your anger is what is needed.

Those with an ill mind can't comprehend rationally and will react more from the moment they are in than rather, wait, pause, reflect and think things over.

My son would get frustrated more when he played with multiple players who didn't know what they were doing. I can understand that, I would be frustrated, too.
 Quoting: KoFFee_


Thats what I mean in a sense. I was very angry in the beginning but I soon learned to not get as angry (its only a game, not the last one you'll ever play, etc.). I think the problem is that people treat video games as mindless entertainment (and a lot nowadays are created as such) but in reality, its entirely possible to play video games and be capable of critical thinking at the same time.
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Nope. Can't believe it. Here's why.

Before there was all of this kid on kid crime, the parent was removed from the home and from being able to discipline the child. This is where it started. No guidance, no rules, no oversight of the child's morality from parents, or the community. The Government raises our children these days.

Except for the few, like you, Koffee, who understand the role of good parenting.
 Quoting: Éireann


I personally know someone who has struggled for almost twenty years raising a son who has a personality disorder. The doctor's kept changing the diagnosis and his medication, which caused the parents much confusion and frustration as they did not know how best to treat him. His first diagnosis WAS Asperger's Syndrome, but then they changed it.

He has been taking adult meds since he was 4! I believe the medication contributes to his condition.

The point I'm trying to make here, is that these parents devoted much time, money and love to raising this child. I've seen what they've gone through. I've seen the fear they had once he grew, and got older--and at time became uncontrollable. They did more than their best to keep his "mental issues" at bay.

There is some truth in what you have to say--the government does raise many of the children these days.

Maybe the good that will come out of this is parents will become more aware and more involved in the care and nurture of their children.
 Quoting: KoFFee_

I personally know about two dozen similar... and in each case I have seen it is not a lack of love from the parents to their children. In some cases its been a lack of understanding and guidance. This is stuff mankind has been trying to resolve and treat effectively and 'cure' for thousands of years, and most likely will be going on thousands of years from now.

Oh, Asperger's got on the Internet about a decade ago and became the New And Improved, one-shoe-fits-all buzzword... so 'everyone that is 'defective' has Asperger's.'

"Personality Disorder" is another all time favorite Buzz-words.. taht the Sorcerers, eh, I mean WitchDoctors, er, I mean Physchatrists 'dia-gnose'. "Everyone has a Personality Disorder" is the New New Improved buzz word on the street and 'couch'.

Depression is dia-gnosed because in the USA we are not allowed to even breathe the word, OPPRESSION.
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What about movies and The Programming Machine (T.V) ??
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Before TV there was RADIO.
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Pac-Man drove him over the edge...
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It was Pong, I tell you, it was Pong.
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Influence of your closests surroundings, your parents, then your friends, then the society and environment you grow up and live in. It's a mix of it all what makes you into who you are. Can't single out one small aspect like video games and lay all the blame.

Anyone touched upon the fact that the shooters own mother was gun obsessive, and often took the kid to shooting practice. It was his mothers guns he used in his killing spree.

Video Games might have a very small procent of infuence in his killing spree, as they difinetly have a stimulating effect on the volent side of the brain, but it's the whole mixture of youth media culture, which is out of control and completly without good morals, it's being a bad guy/bad girl thats is gloryfied as the hip thing to be that is screwing up the youth, some just don't have the filters to keep from being influenced by it.

Mix that with the fact his own mother teached him to shoot in real life, making it a normal thing for him to shoot a gun, and we have a formula for tradegy in a making.
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Video games reveal how some people might react when placed in a stressful and undesirable situation.

Learning how to manage your anger is what is needed.

Those with an ill mind can't comprehend rationally and will react more from the moment they are in than rather, wait, pause, reflect and think things over.

My son would get frustrated more when he played with multiple players who didn't know what they were doing. I can understand that, I would be frustrated, too.
 Quoting: KoFFee_


Thats what I mean in a sense. I was very angry in the beginning but I soon learned to not get as angry (its only a game, not the last one you'll ever play, etc.). I think the problem is that people treat video games as mindless entertainment (and a lot nowadays are created as such) but in reality, its entirely possible to play video games and be capable of critical thinking at the same time.
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This is what I watched happen with my son, too. Over time, and after many, many heated discussions, and prayer, I have seen his reaction mature and change. That's a good thing. hf
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"This man really is the Savior of the world!" John 4:42

Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him;
and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, " says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 1:7

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The killer was "home schooled" by a right-wing minded parent, in a Xtian household, with no history of drugs.
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Of course I do expect somewhere pretending to be from HongKong to use the doctrine, "Guilty until proven by the Media to be innocent".
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These "games" are pure evil, designed by satan to corrupt the minds and souls of young people.
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I have two Christian sons who have played these games in the past. On occasion, they still do now.

One is fine when he plays, the other can become aggressive, angry and curse--so much cursing from a mouth that suppose to belong to God.

We've had many arguments over him playing this one specific game that always brings out the worst in him. He realizes it now and stays away from that game.
 Quoting: KoFFee_


Call of Duty will do that to the most sane of people. I know some people that almost will have an aneurysm because of this game.
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Movies are far worse than video games. Will once, JUST ONCE, a parent stand up and say, "It's my fault!"
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These "games" are pure evil, designed by satan to corrupt the minds and souls of young people.
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I have two Christian sons who have played these games in the past. On occasion, they still do now.

One is fine when he plays, the other can become aggressive, angry and curse--so much cursing from a mouth that suppose to belong to God.

We've had many arguments over him playing this one specific game that always brings out the worst in him. He realizes it now and stays away from that game.
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Call of Duty will do that to the most sane of people. I know some people that almost will have an aneurysm because of this game.
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If they have a temper that comes out while playing a video game, then they have a temper period. Something else will likely set it off if they can't even deal with losing on Call of Duty. Maybe the games could be help them learn patience.
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Re: Colorado governor points to VIOLENCE in VIDEO GAMES
Violent video games and a "culture of violence" found in the media could be contributing factors to mass shootings, Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper said Sunday.

"There might well be some direct connection between people who have some mental instability and when they go over the edge - they transport themselves, they become part of one of those video games," Hickenlooper said on CNN's "State of the Union." "Perhaps that's why all these assault weapons are used."

The Democratic governor argued that some gun regulations need to be tweaked but said more immediate changes can take place by targeting mental health.


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This is part of it. Other part is taking God out of the schools.
"When you don't keep your word, you lose credibility and trustworthy friends"
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12/17/2012 12:40 PM
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Re: Colorado governor points to VIOLENCE in VIDEO GAMES

THOSE WHO CAN NOT REALIZE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GAME AND REALITY NEED TO BE DIRECTLY PUNCHED IN THE FACE,

BUT

LEAVE MY GAME AND MYSELF, ALONG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


SON OF BITCHS!



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