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Homeland Security & Gov agencies buying TONS of Hollow Point Ammo.. while talk of Gun laws, UN Gun Control etc & mass "Shootings"!?!

 
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Homeland Security & Gov agencies buying TONS of Hollow Point Ammo.. while talk of Gun laws, UN Gun Control etc & mass "Shootings"!?!
Here are some numbers,

Purchases of 2012:

450 Million Hollow Point Ammo - Homeland Security
750 Million High Powered Ammo - Homeland Security
200 Million Sniper Rounds - Homeland Security
174 Thousand Hollow Point Ammo - Social Security Administration
85 Thousand Hollow Point Ammo - US Forest Service
187 Thousand other Ammo - US Forest Service
40 Thousand Hollow Point Ammo - National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration

Links:
Thread: Homeland Security buying Millions of Rounds of High-Power Ammo. NOAA Mets Arming with Hollow-Point Bullets!!
Thread: DHS To Buy Additional 750 Million Rounds Of Ammo..
Thread: DHS Buys 200 Million MORE Rounds of Ammo
Thread: BREAKING!!!! MSM: Why does Social Security need 174,000 bullets?
Thread: US Forest service now buying ammo
Thread: NOAA Requests Hollow Point Ammo For The Weather Service (40,000 rounds)


A hollow-point bullet is an expanding bullet that has a pit or hollowed out shape in its tip, often intended to cause the bullet to expand upon entering a target in order to decrease penetration and disrupt more tissue as it travels through the target.

Bare in mind Hollow Point is more expensive than standard ammo, so it's illogical to use Hollow Point for "Target Practice".

Warfare? Hollow Point bullets are illegal to use in Warfare:
[link to jonathanturley.org]
[link to avalon.law.yale.edu]

So why would Homeland Security suddenly need well over 1 billions rounds, 450 million of which are Hollow Point?


In 2012 we've had multiple "mass shootings", increased mainstream talk of Gun laws, taking away of our Guns etc all the while Government agencies are loading up!

Does all this sound like a coincidence to you?
If they want us to have less Guns why are they in a rush to buy so much Ammo?
If different Government agencies are loading up on Ammo wouldn't you want to as well?

What does all this mean?

Well it certainly doesn't add up for a positive future outlook.
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If average joe is disarmed

and the gov is well armed

who holds the power??
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If average joe is disarmed

and the gov is well armed

who holds the power??
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If average joe is disarmed

and the gov is well armed

who holds the power??
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bump
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I reckon I better go stock up then.
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Add this into the mix


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This.
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i think they're buying them up to keep them off the street..as a quasi-control measure.

face it, they cant outright ban guns, its a fight they cant win...
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i think they're buying them up to keep them off the street..as a quasi-control measure.

face it, they cant outright ban guns, its a fight they cant win...
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You can't stop companies from making ammo if there is a huge demand.

Demand = MONEY


Sure supply can be slowed down slightly but I don't see beyond that.
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i think they're buying them up to keep them off the street..as a quasi-control measure.

face it, they cant outright ban guns, its a fight they cant win...
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they will soon ban all military style weapons. FineSwine has it all written up
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The mass media of course talks like crazy about Gun Laws, mass shootings etc.. nowhere do you hear about why all these Gov Ammo purchases.

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You're getting it. The civilian slaves can't have weapons, only the controllers and their minions can have the weapons that kill. Now be a good slave and hand over your weapon.
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You're getting it. The civilian slaves can't have weapons, only the controllers and their minions can have the weapons that kill. Now be a good slave and hand over your weapon.
 Quoting: Light to Go


this is what they did in australia

and the criminals with guns reaped havoc on the sheeple

sitting targets
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Re: Homeland Security & Gov agencies buying TONS of Hollow Point Ammo.. while talk of Gun laws, UN Gun Control etc & mass "Shootings"!?!
Here are some numbers,

Purchases of 2012:

450 Million Hollow Point Ammo - Homeland Security
750 Million High Powered Ammo - Homeland Security
200 Million Sniper Rounds - Homeland Security
174 Thousand Hollow Point Ammo - Social Security Administration
85 Thousand Hollow Point Ammo - US Forest Service
187 Thousand other Ammo - US Forest Service
40 Thousand Hollow Point Ammo - National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration

Links:
Thread: Homeland Security buying Millions of Rounds of High-Power Ammo. NOAA Mets Arming with Hollow-Point Bullets!!
Thread: DHS To Buy Additional 750 Million Rounds Of Ammo..
Thread: DHS Buys 200 Million MORE Rounds of Ammo
Thread: BREAKING!!!! MSM: Why does Social Security need 174,000 bullets?
Thread: US Forest service now buying ammo
Thread: NOAA Requests Hollow Point Ammo For The Weather Service (40,000 rounds)


A hollow-point bullet is an expanding bullet that has a pit or hollowed out shape in its tip, often intended to cause the bullet to expand upon entering a target in order to decrease penetration and disrupt more tissue as it travels through the target.

Bare in mind Hollow Point is more expensive than standard ammo, so it's illogical to use Hollow Point for "Target Practice".

Warfare? Hollow Point bullets are illegal to use in Warfare:
[link to jonathanturley.org]
[link to avalon.law.yale.edu]

So why would Homeland Security suddenly need well over 1 billions rounds, 450 million of which are Hollow Point?


In 2012 we've had multiple "mass shootings", increased mainstream talk of Gun laws, taking away of our Guns etc all the while Government agencies are loading up!

Does all this sound like a coincidence to you?
If they want us to have less Guns why are they in a rush to buy so much Ammo?
If different Government agencies are loading up on Ammo wouldn't you want to as well?

What does all this mean?

Well it certainly doesn't add up for a positive future outlook.
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You're getting it. The civilian slaves can't have weapons, only the controllers and their minions can have the weapons that kill. Now be a good slave and hand over your weapon.
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this is what they did in australia

and the criminals with guns reaped havoc on the sheeple

sitting targets
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Yup, here's a report on it:







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You're getting it. The civilian slaves can't have weapons, only the controllers and their minions can have the weapons that kill. Now be a good slave and hand over your weapon.
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Yew, sir! Fuckers...
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You're getting it. The civilian slaves can't have weapons, only the controllers and their minions can have the weapons that kill. Now be a good slave and hand over your weapon.
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Yew, sir! Fuckers...
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i think they're buying them up to keep them off the street..as a quasi-control measure.

face it, they cant outright ban guns, its a fight they cant win...
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im inclined to think this
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Hypocrites. And you know Dick Cheney ain't giving up his guns! His gun collection must be impressive.
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You're getting it. The civilian slaves can't have weapons, only the controllers and their minions can have the weapons that kill. Now be a good slave and hand over your weapon.
 Quoting: Light to Go


this is what they did in australia

and the criminals with guns reaped havoc on the sheeple

sitting targets
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29134382


really?

didnt happen here

the vast, vast majority of what 'relatively little' gun crime here, is inter-gang related

people arent held up at gunpoint very often

theyre arent even that many armed roberies

and ever more rare that someone is shot during these types of raids, cos mostly they are replicas
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Controls and laws are for the little people. The elite and their agents are not bound to the law. Haven't you learned this yet?
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Trying to get through to the sheep that they will one day be rounded up and shot is nigh impossible.
Their comfy little lives are worth more to them than freedom!
You have no freedom to do anything if you cannot defend yourself. The government is NOT your big 'ol buddy!
Jesus!!!!!
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Re: Homeland Security & Gov agencies buying TONS of Hollow Point Ammo.. while talk of Gun laws, UN Gun Control etc & mass "Shootings"!?!
Here are some numbers,

Purchases of 2012:

450 Million Hollow Point Ammo - Homeland Security
750 Million High Powered Ammo - Homeland Security
200 Million Sniper Rounds - Homeland Security
174 Thousand Hollow Point Ammo - Social Security Administration
85 Thousand Hollow Point Ammo - US Forest Service
187 Thousand other Ammo - US Forest Service
40 Thousand Hollow Point Ammo - National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration

Links:
Thread: Homeland Security buying Millions of Rounds of High-Power Ammo. NOAA Mets Arming with Hollow-Point Bullets!!
Thread: DHS To Buy Additional 750 Million Rounds Of Ammo..
Thread: DHS Buys 200 Million MORE Rounds of Ammo
Thread: BREAKING!!!! MSM: Why does Social Security need 174,000 bullets?
Thread: US Forest service now buying ammo
Thread: NOAA Requests Hollow Point Ammo For The Weather Service (40,000 rounds)


A hollow-point bullet is an expanding bullet that has a pit or hollowed out shape in its tip, often intended to cause the bullet to expand upon entering a target in order to decrease penetration and disrupt more tissue as it travels through the target.

Bare in mind Hollow Point is more expensive than standard ammo, so it's illogical to use Hollow Point for "Target Practice".

Warfare? Hollow Point bullets are illegal to use in Warfare:
[link to jonathanturley.org]
[link to avalon.law.yale.edu]

So why would Homeland Security suddenly need well over 1 billions rounds, 450 million of which are Hollow Point?


In 2012 we've had multiple "mass shootings", increased mainstream talk of Gun laws, taking away of our Guns etc all the while Government agencies are loading up!

Does all this sound like a coincidence to you?
If they want us to have less Guns why are they in a rush to buy so much Ammo?
If different Government agencies are loading up on Ammo wouldn't you want to as well?

What does all this mean?

Well it certainly doesn't add up for a positive future outlook.
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vendetta
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I think they probably are working to curtail gun ownership, as they have been for some time now.

I am not alarmed by these purchase orders for a billion plus rounds. This is not a single purchase, these are contracts to be filled over several years, and these are not large amounts of ammunition.

It makes sense to me that they would buy only one type of ammo (HP) to use and train with, makes things simpler. HP ammo is also only legally used for LE, not for military, so that would ear-mark these rounds to stay at home.

It makes sense to me that groups of homeland security guys could go through thousands of rounds simply for training, multiplied by each state and agency office, that starts to add up quickly. I know that my friends and I can easily go through several thousand rounds in one session. Honestly I think these guys need all the range time they can get.

It even makes sense that NOAA would need to buy ammo, as they have a law enforcement division.

It also makes sense that the main reason to buy the ammo is to keep the demand up. Given that as things wind down in Iraq, we need to keep those munitions factories going. In case we really do need them. I want the government to have as much ammo as they need. I don't fear homeland security, I have plenty of friends who work for them, and they do a good job. Someday we might really need those guys, and we might really need them to be well armed.

Imagine if there were a major catastrophe, and the national home-front was under attack. If our government was severely weakened, the mexican/south american population would advance pretty hard in some areas, likely with the help of the cartels(they already are). Homeland security might be one of the few lines of defense we have.
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You're getting it. The civilian slaves can't have weapons, only the controllers and their minions can have the weapons that kill. Now be a good slave and hand over your weapon.
 Quoting: Light to Go


this is what they did in australia

and the criminals with guns reaped havoc on the sheeple

sitting targets
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29134382


really?

didnt happen here

the vast, vast majority of what 'relatively little' gun crime here, is inter-gang related

people arent held up at gunpoint very often

theyre arent even that many armed roberies

and ever more rare that someone is shot during these types of raids, cos mostly they are replicas
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Really?

I hear the land of glorified slave class

has a lot of murders and rapes due to people having less types of protection
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The government is NOT your big 'ol buddy!
Jesus!!!!!
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It is not God as well, although there are many that would refute that claim.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights...

If government decides it defines your rights, then government has declared itself God.
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i think they're buying them up to keep them off the street..as a quasi-control measure.

face it, they cant outright ban guns, its a fight they cant win...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29960820


they will soon ban all military style weapons. FineSwine has it all written up
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they can only ban future sales, making any ban effectively useless- because we will still be able to buy, sell & trade pre-ban products(10's of millions in circulation right now).

door to door confiscation just wont happen, imagine the dc sniper times 100,000...(very conservative number)

how long before cops refuse to wear their uniforms?
even the meter maids would become targets.

not disagreeing with you, just making my points here.
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i think they're buying them up to keep them off the street..as a quasi-control measure.

face it, they cant outright ban guns, its a fight they cant win...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29960820


they will soon ban all military style weapons. FineSwine has it all written up
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28870983


they can only ban future sales, making any ban effectively useless- because we will still be able to buy, sell & trade pre-ban products(10's of millions in circulation right now).

door to door confiscation just wont happen, imagine the dc sniper times 100,000...(very conservative number)

how long before cops refuse to wear their uniforms?
even the meter maids would become targets.

not disagreeing with you, just making my points here.
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The best part is watching my government pretend to care about human life. They kill fucking kids on a daily basis, personally I'd rather be shot and get it over quickly rather than suffering, slowly dying, from chemtrails, gmo, MSG, fluoride, and economic despair. Isn't it great how all these rich elitist pieces of shit want 97% world population reduction, but somehow have all of you convinced that they cry when 20 "useless eaters'" children are killed. Hahahahahahsha
And all you little stupid fags buy it, cause you are all fucking retarded or medicated and brainwashed by television. Come for guns assholes I fucking dare you.
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