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Homeland Security & Gov agencies buying TONS of Hollow Point Ammo.. while talk of Gun laws, UN Gun Control etc & mass "Shootings"!?!

 
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If average joe is disarmed

and the gov is well armed

who holds the power??
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Please tell me the power the average joe currently has in America with guns...

Answer = fuck all
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AC705 you're spot on about rounds used for training. I
posted this a couple of days ago.
My brother inlaw is Chief of police in a Florida beach town, and that is exactly what he said. You train with the
round that you will use on duty. Now you take the amount
of agents there are and it's in the thousands(that's just in
the DHLS), and the time they spend on the range, and they spend alot of time shooting, that's a hell of a lot rounds
expended. So you can see right there is where most of the
ammo goes.
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i think they're buying them up to keep them off the street..as a quasi-control measure.

face it, they cant outright ban guns, its a fight they cant win...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29960820


they will soon ban all military style weapons. FineSwine has it all written up
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they can only ban future sales, making any ban effectively useless- because we will still be able to buy, sell & trade pre-ban products(10's of millions in circulation right now).

door to door confiscation just wont happen, imagine the dc sniper times 100,000...(very conservative number)

how long before cops refuse to wear their uniforms?
even the meter maids would become targets.

not disagreeing with you, just making my points here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29960820


The best part is watching my government pretend to care about human life. They kill fucking kids on a daily basis, personally I'd rather be shot and get it over quickly rather than suffering, slowly dying, from chemtrails, gmo, MSG, fluoride, and economic despair. Isn't it great how all these rich elitist pieces of shit want 97% world population reduction, but somehow have all of you convinced that they cry when 20 "useless eaters'" children are killed. Hahahahahahsha
And all you little stupid fags buy it, cause you are all fucking retarded or medicated and brainwashed by television. Come for guns assholes I fucking dare you.
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None of the sheep probably are aware thousands of children in afghanistan and iraq are born with horrifying

abnormalities from government sponsored depleted uranium...


thousands

but would they even care if this knowledge made it to mainstream news??
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Yeah, those hollow points are intended for guys like me that have no intention of giving up my weapons and becoming a government slave. Fuck them live free or die says it all. No man should fear another, and no man should be subserviant to another. I for one certainly wont will you?
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Yeah, those hollow points are intended for guys like me that have no intention of giving up my weapons and becoming a government slave. Fuck them live free or die says it all. No man should fear another, and no man should be subserviant to another. I for one certainly wont will you?
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Beginning to wonder if this IS correct more and more every day...
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If average joe is disarmed

and the gov is well armed

who holds the power??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29134382


LOL, the general pubic is armed like a mofo now and you want to know who still holds the power??? Oh yeah, gubment.


We have our guns right now, and powerless...
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who Funds Homeland Security?
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If average joe is disarmed

and the gov is well armed

who holds the power??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29134382


Please tell me the power the average joe currently has in America with guns...

Answer = fuck all
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They're in a much better position than our pussy whipped socialist, government handout, defenceless shithole that's for sure. If you can't see that then you're even more of a brainwashed idiot than anyone that thinks the opposite.

We've been losing all our freedoms for many years now and they've done a good job of taking them away without any resistance too.
When you do things right people won't be sure you've done anything at all
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AC705 you're spot on about rounds used for training. I
posted this a couple of days ago.
My brother inlaw is Chief of police in a Florida beach town, and that is exactly what he said. You train with the
round that you will use on duty. Now you take the amount
of agents there are and it's in the thousands(that's just in
the DHLS), and the time they spend on the range, and they spend alot of time shooting, that's a hell of a lot rounds
expended. So you can see right there is where most of the
ammo goes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1210737



That's patently false. As a cop I can tell you we do not use JHP for anything other than our duty weapon (both pistol and rifle). We use frangible in our indoor range and ball ammo when we train outdoors. Frangible and ball ammo is infinitely cheaper to train with. I know of no agencies or SO's that use JHP for training, and if your brother in law is using it to train hos officers with he is wasting taxpayer money.

There are fragmentation concerns with JHP in indoor ranges, and you will not see it being used at a poloce range, period.
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:Obummerguns:
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..exactly the opposite what you see on the picture
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they will soon ban all military style weapons. FineSwine has it all written up
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they can only ban future sales, making any ban effectively useless- because we will still be able to buy, sell & trade pre-ban products(10's of millions in circulation right now).

door to door confiscation just wont happen, imagine the dc sniper times 100,000...(very conservative number)

how long before cops refuse to wear their uniforms?
even the meter maids would become targets.

not disagreeing with you, just making my points here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29960820


The best part is watching my government pretend to care about human life. They kill fucking kids on a daily basis, personally I'd rather be shot and get it over quickly rather than suffering, slowly dying, from chemtrails, gmo, MSG, fluoride, and economic despair. Isn't it great how all these rich elitist pieces of shit want 97% world population reduction, but somehow have all of you convinced that they cry when 20 "useless eaters'" children are killed. Hahahahahahsha
And all you little stupid fags buy it, cause you are all fucking retarded or medicated and brainwashed by television. Come for guns assholes I fucking dare you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24465310


None of the sheep probably are aware thousands of children in afghanistan and iraq are born with horrifying

abnormalities from government sponsored depleted uranium...


thousands

but would they even care if this knowledge made it to mainstream news??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29134382


Seriously, like the elected pedos in government give a shit about your children. Just another scapegoat to use to get their way. We all know they want us all dead. This shit makes me sick. Practically every child in Africa is fucking starving to death. You honestly think that they care about 20 yuppie rich kids from CT .
Bwahahahahaha to them your the great unwashed, to dirty to even be killed chopped up rendered and used for soap.
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Add this into the mix



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This video makes me sick.

When someone comes in your house you should have to right to protect yourself. But these betraying treasonous governments say you have to surrender to these invaders and give them your belongings.

Here, in Holland, people think this is normal. They don't know any better. They are brainwashed to think guns are bad.

Now, the bad guys are the ones with guns. They will always have guns.
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Here are some numbers,

Purchases of 2012:

450 Million Hollow Point Ammo - Homeland Security
750 Million High Powered Ammo - Homeland Security
200 Million Sniper Rounds - Homeland Security
174 Thousand Hollow Point Ammo - Social Security Administration
85 Thousand Hollow Point Ammo - US Forest Service
187 Thousand other Ammo - US Forest Service
40 Thousand Hollow Point Ammo - National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration

Links:
Thread: Homeland Security buying Millions of Rounds of High-Power Ammo. NOAA Mets Arming with Hollow-Point Bullets!!
Thread: DHS To Buy Additional 750 Million Rounds Of Ammo..
Thread: DHS Buys 200 Million MORE Rounds of Ammo
Thread: BREAKING!!!! MSM: Why does Social Security need 174,000 bullets?
Thread: US Forest service now buying ammo
Thread: NOAA Requests Hollow Point Ammo For The Weather Service (40,000 rounds)


A hollow-point bullet is an expanding bullet that has a pit or hollowed out shape in its tip, often intended to cause the bullet to expand upon entering a target in order to decrease penetration and disrupt more tissue as it travels through the target.

Bare in mind Hollow Point is more expensive than standard ammo, so it's illogical to use Hollow Point for "Target Practice".

Warfare? Hollow Point bullets are illegal to use in Warfare:
[link to jonathanturley.org]
[link to avalon.law.yale.edu]

So why would Homeland Security suddenly need well over 1 billions rounds, 450 million of which are Hollow Point?


In 2012 we've had multiple "mass shootings", increased mainstream talk of Gun laws, taking away of our Guns etc all the while Government agencies are loading up!

Does all this sound like a coincidence to you?
If they want us to have less Guns why are they in a rush to buy so much Ammo?
If different Government agencies are loading up on Ammo wouldn't you want to as well?

What does all this mean?

Well it certainly doesn't add up for a positive future outlook.
hiding
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Obviously, they don't consider themselves on the same side as the PEOPLE
burnitredface
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AC705 you're spot on about rounds used for training. I
posted this a couple of days ago.
My brother inlaw is Chief of police in a Florida beach town, and that is exactly what he said. You train with the
round that you will use on duty. Now you take the amount
of agents there are and it's in the thousands(that's just in
the DHLS), and the time they spend on the range, and they spend alot of time shooting, that's a hell of a lot rounds
expended. So you can see right there is where most of the
ammo goes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1210737



That's patently false. As a cop I can tell you we do not use JHP for anything other than our duty weapon (both pistol and rifle). We use frangible in our indoor range and ball ammo when we train outdoors. Frangible and ball ammo is infinitely cheaper to train with. I know of no agencies or SO's that use JHP for training, and if your brother in law is using it to train hos officers with he is wasting taxpayer money.

There are fragmentation concerns with JHP in indoor ranges, and you will not see it being used at a poloce range, period.
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So as a cop will you enforce a gun ban or confiscation? Or will you uphold your oath
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hing about vids like this is gthey focus on the wrong thing.
Leftists want talk about crime to be the focus of gun debate.
Not that leftists care about crime, secretly they admire criminals anyway, because they share there psychology.
The main reason leftists want guns banned is simple, they are afraid that guns will be used on them
Gun bans have nothing to do with crime, everything to do with enmslavement, no coincidence that the development of guns was hand in hand with the rise of freedom.
No agency has any business with hollowpoints, btw
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they can only ban future sales, making any ban effectively useless- because we will still be able to buy, sell & trade pre-ban products(10's of millions in circulation right now).

door to door confiscation just wont happen, imagine the dc sniper times 100,000...(very conservative number)

how long before cops refuse to wear their uniforms?
even the meter maids would become targets.

not disagreeing with you, just making my points here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29960820


The best part is watching my government pretend to care about human life. They kill fucking kids on a daily basis, personally I'd rather be shot and get it over quickly rather than suffering, slowly dying, from chemtrails, gmo, MSG, fluoride, and economic despair. Isn't it great how all these rich elitist pieces of shit want 97% world population reduction, but somehow have all of you convinced that they cry when 20 "useless eaters'" children are killed. Hahahahahahsha
And all you little stupid fags buy it, cause you are all fucking retarded or medicated and brainwashed by television. Come for guns assholes I fucking dare you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24465310


None of the sheep probably are aware thousands of children in afghanistan and iraq are born with horrifying

abnormalities from government sponsored depleted uranium...


thousands

but would they even care if this knowledge made it to mainstream news??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29134382


Seriously, like the elected pedos in government give a shit about your children. Just another scapegoat to use to get their way. We all know they want us all dead. This shit makes me sick. Practically every child in Africa is fucking starving to death. You honestly think that they care about 20 yuppie rich kids from CT .
Bwahahahahaha to them your the great unwashed, to dirty to even be killed chopped up rendered and used for soap.
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You are correct

but the sheep are many and they have not woken up yet
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AC705 you're spot on about rounds used for training. I
posted this a couple of days ago.
My brother inlaw is Chief of police in a Florida beach town, and that is exactly what he said. You train with the
round that you will use on duty. Now you take the amount
of agents there are and it's in the thousands(that's just in
the DHLS), and the time they spend on the range, and they spend alot of time shooting, that's a hell of a lot rounds
expended. So you can see right there is where most of the
ammo goes.
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You don't use "Hollow Point" ammo for training.
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If average joe is disarmed

and the gov is well armed

who holds the power??
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:femasheeple:
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Believe me, the corrupt PTB would also love to deal in illegal weapons and ammo here in the U.S. like they do elsewhere. They run drugs and guns to fund themselves, that's what they do.
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AC705 you're spot on about rounds used for training. I
posted this a couple of days ago.
My brother inlaw is Chief of police in a Florida beach town, and that is exactly what he said. You train with the
round that you will use on duty. Now you take the amount
of agents there are and it's in the thousands(that's just in
the DHLS), and the time they spend on the range, and they spend alot of time shooting, that's a hell of a lot rounds
expended. So you can see right there is where most of the
ammo goes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1210737



That's patently false. As a cop I can tell you we do not use JHP for anything other than our duty weapon (both pistol and rifle). We use frangible in our indoor range and ball ammo when we train outdoors. Frangible and ball ammo is infinitely cheaper to train with. I know of no agencies or SO's that use JHP for training, and if your brother in law is using it to train hos officers with he is wasting taxpayer money.

There are fragmentation concerns with JHP in indoor ranges, and you will not see it being used at a poloce range, period.
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So as a cop will you enforce a gun ban or confiscation? Or will you uphold your oath
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20071466



I guarantee you that none of the guys I work with would enforce a gun ban. It would be suicide. Every house would be an armed barricaded subject situation. Most people may hate us, but we've got families too. we will choose to uphold the constitution as it stands.
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That's patently false. As a cop I can tell you we do not use JHP for anything other than our duty weapon (both pistol and rifle). We use frangible in our indoor range and ball ammo when we tran outdoors. Frangible and ball ammo is infinitely cheaper to train with. I know of no agencies or SO's that use JHP for training, and if your brother in law is using it to train hos officers with he is wasting taxpayer money.

There are fragmentation concerns with JHP in indoor ranges, and you will not see it being used at a poloce range, period.


So as a cop will you enforce a gun ban or confiscation? Or will you uphold your oath


Didnt think id get an answer, nuff said
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Sorry, spoke too soon. Thank you for your reply. As far as im concerned your not hated nor is any cop unless youre corrupt and give me reason you have a job to do that I wouldnt want to undertake and I respect all leo until it becomes apparant they dont deserve that respect. Thanks again for your reply
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AC705 you're spot on about rounds used for training. I
posted this a couple of days ago.
My brother inlaw is Chief of police in a Florida beach town, and that is exactly what he said. You train with the
round that you will use on duty. Now you take the amount
of agents there are and it's in the thousands(that's just in
the DHLS), and the time they spend on the range, and they spend alot of time shooting, that's a hell of a lot rounds
expended. So you can see right there is where most of the
ammo goes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1210737



That's patently false. As a cop I can tell you we do not use JHP for anything other than our duty weapon (both pistol and rifle). We use frangible in our indoor range and ball ammo when we train outdoors. Frangible and ball ammo is infinitely cheaper to train with. I know of no agencies or SO's that use JHP for training, and if your brother in law is using it to train hos officers with he is wasting taxpayer money.

There are fragmentation concerns with JHP in indoor ranges, and you will not see it being used at a poloce range, period.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15824667


So as a cop will you enforce a gun ban or confiscation? Or will you uphold your oath
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20071466



I guarantee you that none of the guys I work with would enforce a gun ban. It would be suicide. Every house would be an armed barricaded subject situation. Most people may hate us, but we've got families too. we will choose to uphold the constitution as it stands.
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Just wait till after a few more false flags


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AC705 you're spot on about rounds used for training. I
posted this a couple of days ago.
My brother inlaw is Chief of police in a Florida beach town, and that is exactly what he said. You train with the
round that you will use on duty. Now you take the amount
of agents there are and it's in the thousands(that's just in
the DHLS), and the time they spend on the range, and they spend alot of time shooting, that's a hell of a lot rounds
expended. So you can see right there is where most of the
ammo goes.
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bullshit.
yOU TRAIN WITH WADCUTTERS, because it doesnt matter if the
bullet has a hollowpoint slug or not.
And no agency has any business with hollowpoints anyway.
And if these bullets are being used for "training" thats a hell of a lot of training.
You can shoot a box once a month, and thats a lot.
The math doesnt add up.
"Training" my ASS
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Tranquilizer Guns with Hundreds and Hundreds of Rounds is what people really need!

Because they are crazy!
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If average joe is disarmed

and the gov is well armed

who holds the power??
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Not yet.
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a very intense video about gun control and genocide


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Is there any source for past say decade of govt ammo purchases.

I would love to see if over the decade if the purchase of ammo has been fairly consistent or its a new to 2012 thing.

If its new only for 2012 that they are buying huge quantities of ammo that is something to be concerned with.

I have a hunch its all a plan for 2013 to seriously remove almost all guns from law abiding citizens. in anticipation for this they are buying lots of ammo because as someone said DC sniper there will be more of them as they do go do to door trying to confiscate all guns. no doubt they will soon declare marshall law in order to get it done because many citz wont cooperate.

Or they know the end of the society as we know it is about to happen (dont believe much in 2012 end of world stuff) but that said itd be peculiar if only this year or last year ammo purchases in big bulk are made and not so for other years in the decade.

TPTB are certainly gearing up for something domestic. your guess is as good as mine but no one buys billions in ammo without having some knowledge on whats to come.
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Sorry but hollow points are used in some PD's in training. As I said, my bro-in-law uses HP in their training. The reason is there is a difference in the dynamics of the hp and ball ammo. Not only in the stopping power but also how the weapon react when the round is fired and the bullet leaves the gun. That is one of the reason why his department
now uses the hp in their training, and that is why the
DHLS uses that type of ammo. Like I said, this is what he
told me and what agents of the DHLS told him when he went
through training with these AGENTS. So, if you have proof to
negate this statement, then have AT IT.
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Here are some numbers,

Purchases of 2012:

450 Million Hollow Point Ammo - Homeland Security
750 Million High Powered Ammo - Homeland Security
200 Million Sniper Rounds - Homeland Security
174 Thousand Hollow Point Ammo - Social Security Administration
85 Thousand Hollow Point Ammo - US Forest Service
187 Thousand other Ammo - US Forest Service
40 Thousand Hollow Point Ammo - National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration

Links:
Thread: Homeland Security buying Millions of Rounds of High-Power Ammo. NOAA Mets Arming with Hollow-Point Bullets!!
Thread: DHS To Buy Additional 750 Million Rounds Of Ammo..
Thread: DHS Buys 200 Million MORE Rounds of Ammo
Thread: BREAKING!!!! MSM: Why does Social Security need 174,000 bullets?
Thread: US Forest service now buying ammo
Thread: NOAA Requests Hollow Point Ammo For The Weather Service (40,000 rounds)


A hollow-point bullet is an expanding bullet that has a pit or hollowed out shape in its tip, often intended to cause the bullet to expand upon entering a target in order to decrease penetration and disrupt more tissue as it travels through the target.

Bare in mind Hollow Point is more expensive than standard ammo, so it's illogical to use Hollow Point for "Target Practice".

Warfare? Hollow Point bullets are illegal to use in Warfare:
[link to jonathanturley.org]
[link to avalon.law.yale.edu]

So why would Homeland Security suddenly need well over 1 billions rounds, 450 million of which are Hollow Point?


In 2012 we've had multiple "mass shootings", increased mainstream talk of Gun laws, taking away of our Guns etc all the while Government agencies are loading up!

Does all this sound like a coincidence to you?
If they want us to have less Guns why are they in a rush to buy so much Ammo?
If different Government agencies are loading up on Ammo wouldn't you want to as well?

What does all this mean?

Well it certainly doesn't add up for a positive future outlook.
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