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People decrying the evil of the world might consider the need for it within this creation, but not in heaven.

The material universe that seems so vast, may be some kind of mirage of apparent infinity, much like time appears real, but does not exist outside of the material. These are things we may not be able to comprehend.

Science is inventing particles and Planck's Constants and vacuums as a way to deal with these apparent absurdities...

the universe may be like a kind of tar pit that sticks to us and forms around our consciousness...

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if you garden or keep bees it really sinks in what is going on, imo...

why do anything or create at all?

it feels good...

this is likely why the bible says we are created to glorify God...

by free will choosing to do this, we harmonize w higher vibratory heavenly states of consciousness, imo...

and this is like tending a hive and seeing it really kick ass and produce amazing honey... ah, it feels great! I can only imagine how God must feel when we honor and glorify Him by caring enough to learn how to...

this, imo, is the real reason the scandals of history are often so obviously contrived... its like: hint hint...

but we have to decide... took me a while to be comfortable doing this...

I needed proofs and if you dig long enough, you find em... (hundreds of hours and near death later... sigh)

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There are spiritual laws here... even God goes by them, because he wants a certain type of creation... free will sovereign spirit beings...

even Christ could not perform miracles in town where the people were very opposed to Him... at least He would not do so, it seems, because it would infract upon the free will of the people there...

once He died and was resurrected, He says He was given the power on earth and in heaven...

there are reasons for blood sacrifices... why do you think occult practice it...

it is likely energetic and following rules of creation God set up...

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2001 is one of my favorite films, if not my favorite...

ever seen the analysis where they show how HAL is really IBM?

every letter in IBM is preceded by HAL...

Kubrick, in addition to being an incredible genius, according to some was always putting subliminals in his films...

to me, the technology is a luciferian trap... eventually chipping us and controlling us--- totally opposite the free will sovereign spirit beings God intended...

tptb have to trick us... and they are worshipping a supernatural element that follows the spiritual laws and knows things not meant for this creation...

lucifer, like HAL, was created as perfect and yet he chose to rebel... Kubrick seems to imply a bigger game going on...

God chose to keep lucifer here to act as a sort of challenge and filter for His creations... the ones that do not learn to glorify Him will be destroyed...

again, the beekeeping metaphor... makes sense... just in terms of energy, you might not want rebellious creations running around your creation... distorted egoic energy is not preserved... it will not be useful to God in eternity...

I did not come to this understanding out of fear--I could care less if there was an eternity or not when I didn't know what was going on...

I came to this from research and life experience... lots and lots of both...

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So Bruce Lipton's work is something that everyone should be aware of.

From a Christ-centered perspective, it explains why Christ could not perform miracles in some towns who were too unbelieving.

This is probably not because he couldn't, but because it would over-ride the free will of those people to a degree that appears opposite spiritual law.

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Hi OP, just wanted to say thank you, and fantastic job on this thread. I am a big fan of the work of Mr. Lipton, I believe! I am am only half way through reading all your info, but wanted to thank you for your posts thus far.

hf
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Good thread OP.
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So clearly, the elite are well-aware of a supernatural influence that they have no control over. If they do not capitalize on the supernatural, someone else likely will.


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This really makes me think.

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I'm smelling what you're stepping in.

What do you think of Ouspensky and Gurdjieff?

Tertium Organum and the Fourth Way?
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I'm smelling what you're stepping in.

What do you think of Ouspensky and Gurdjieff?

Tertium Organum and the Fourth Way?
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Have to look into it a bit... the basic thing I look at is are the people getting their info or ideas from some outside source? If so, who frm and what is the message?

if the message is self-deifying or egoic or distracting from loving God and showing this by loving others and treating all of Gods creations with respect as much as possible....

then I tend to suspect deception...

this is especially true if the existence of Jesus Christ is questioned and/or His message distorted...

Christ is important because we are in a fallen state... and energetically we are not in harmony w the Divine... the more life-experience we have the more energetic distortion we might take on...

Forgiveness is a re-alignment of our energy... and by asking for it we exercise our free will and give God permission to cleanse us of this kind of distortion...

Not saying their aren't people who may be naturally saintly--the New Testament clearly implies their are... but most of us are not... we are in a state of consciousness we chose, tricked or not... much like the current one, with all its deception... it is like being in an altered state... that fruit of knowledge appears to have been some powerful stuff... or rather, our choice to eat it was... free will and temptation go together in this reality for a reason... harvest.

Walter Veith's vids on evolution really put some of this together...

the fallen state of animals is evident all around...
dinosaurs likely still exist in some rare areas of the world, like the massive swamps of the Congo and elsewhere... but generally, the world we have is not conducive to reptiles living long enough and with enough diversity to sustain them...

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As a film buff, I have admired Meetings With Remarkable Men

When I first saw it I thought it was quite beautiful and wished to go to the place depicted. It is a beautiful idea: a place to perfect oneself.

It also caused me to wonder if the real ptb are not people living in seclusion somewhere and using occult knowledge, they travel outside of their bodies and with their special skills they rule from afar.

There are a few problems with this idea.

1) we cannot perfect ourselves in this fallen and rebellious vibratory state. This seems like the purpose of some of the dance and exercises: to raise vibratory states of being. Yes, we can do this, but at what cost?

2) Former occultists like Mark Cleminson and Carolyn Hamlett have been schooled in these abilities and have worked directly for "the plan" and they say it is not in humanity's best interests.

3) Earthquake Kelly's testimonies as a voodoo priest in training illustrate another angle of the types of beings we are really in contact with when we develop these abilities. They also illustrate the egoic nature of developing these abilities.

If someone were to have told me that we should not develop ourselves by meditation and chanting and use of entheogens I would have talked about all the benefits and how we need to break free from being enslaved and even that this was Christ's real message.

I might have even considered that we are in a matrix of control not to be released until we learn to raise our vibratory state. In fact, this seemed like the only thing we might take with us after death.

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Also, Earthquake Kelly's testimony illustrates, as does Carolyn Hamlett's, that some in the occult already know how to travel and break physical laws and implicit within this is often the need for a pact with demonic spirits.

This is also echoed by Roger Morneau...

AND perhaps most importantly, all of the testimonies of former occultists illustrate the need to find Jesus Christ to get out of the occult... as is the case w over 400 abductee cases where calling on Christ helps, as well... there appear to be spiritual laws that everyone must follow, supernatural or not...

When a price was put on Roger's head, he says in one of his books that the spirits told the members of his order that one of them had to kill him--it could not be a hitman... I am guessing because a hit man would not have success.

I think we take spiritual laws for granted all the time. Sometimes if you loan someone money or a book they refuse to pay it back... doing this opens them probably opens them up to supernatural attack and lower/distorted vibratory states of consciousness...

Accepting Christ and His forgiveness is a form of free will consciousness that appears to have powerful implications.

Just imagine, by doing this you are realigning your vibratory state to the Divine and removing distortion of low vibe consciousness... you are, in effect, now an eternal being in waiting and one will to serve God and His creation. You now have value beyond yourself. Earthquake Kelly describes seeing massive angels protecting Christians he was trying to curse...

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are there good elements within the occult? undoubtedly.

there are many who profess to performing "white magik" and even Carolyn Hamett, though she admits to infiltrating churches and corrupting the leadership, thought she was doing the right thing. Many in the occult are convinced that Christianity is a simplistic and backwards practice or even that it is evil because it is associated with crusades and persecution...

yet it is doubtful true Christ-centered people would justify such atrocities as have occurred in their name.

knowing how infiltrated churches are and the type of people who tend to rise to leadership positions, it is clear most of the horrors perpetrated in Christ's name are not from true followers, but people who hide behind such a front.

Earthquake Kelly's testimony also illustrates this: that witches often impersonate piousness and even Christian vocabulary, but meanwhile they are sending spirits to curse someone and setting up a dependency on a voodoo priest for help w troubles. As David "icke" would say: problem, reaction, solution.

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So Bruce Lipton's work is something that everyone should be aware of.

From a Christ-centered perspective, it explains why Christ could not perform miracles in some towns who were too unbelieving.

This is probably not because he couldn't, but because it would over-ride the free will of those people to a degree that appears opposite spiritual law.

:)
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Hi OP, just wanted to say thank you, and fantastic job on this thread. I am a big fan of the work of Mr. Lipton, I believe! I am am only half way through reading all your info, but wanted to thank you for your posts thus far.

hf
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thanks!

I think a lot can be learned from the new age movement... Bruce thinks he is part of it, but I think he probably just doesn't know the bigger picture that would truly explain why his ideas are not more widely known. He is a good example of how the new age co-opts a brilliant thinker and again real knowledge and understanding cannot be found from your average Christ-centered source...

it took me a while to catch on to this...

:)
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"The followers of Pythagoras referred every object, planet, man, idea, and essence, to some number or other..."

--William Wynn Wescott--freemason; cofounder of Golden Dawn, U.S.

So we can deduce that the poetry of our current reality is ultimately numerical.
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i just woke up so don't feel able to explain my idea all that well, but this is EXACTLY what i've been been thinking about and looking into. and it relates to the bible too.
i'm not a christian, but have been recently reading some of the bible and it's been blowing my effing mind! like the creation story, which i always thought was so ridiculous.
something i noticed was that i'd be like -Holy shit! this is amazing - i'd go search for other people's ideas on the subject, specifically christians since i figured they're the ones who are all into it- and it would be the lowest level you could come up with.
like i was reading god's instructions to Eve and had major conciousness shifting, and some passionate christian would go on forever and the conclusion would be how we all need to follow orders. What the FUCK. sorry for that but i have been truly shockingly disturbed over and over by this weirdness. So much so that i think maybe christians are unwitting deluded guards of what is vital importance. it's hard for me to say it right. Like they're so loudly consumed by the bullshit and repeat it over and over that it makes people want to stay away and look no further.
they're the Morons hiding the gate. i know im generalizing but i think it serves.
Aack! i wanted to talk about numbers! but now am all tired out. Guess I'll leave it for now.
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"The followers of Pythagoras referred every object, planet, man, idea, and essence, to some number or other..."

--William Wynn Wescott--freemason; cofounder of Golden Dawn, U.S.

So we can deduce that the poetry of our current reality is ultimately numerical.
:)
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i just woke up so don't feel able to explain my idea all that well, but this is EXACTLY what i've been been thinking about and looking into. and it relates to the bible too.
i'm not a christian, but have been recently reading some of the bible and it's been blowing my effing mind! like the creation story, which i always thought was so ridiculous.
something i noticed was that i'd be like -Holy shit! this is amazing - i'd go search for other people's ideas on the subject, specifically christians since i figured they're the ones who are all into it- and it would be the lowest level you could come up with.
like i was reading god's instructions to Eve and had major conciousness shifting, and some passionate christian would go on forever and the conclusion would be how we all need to follow orders. What the FUCK. sorry for that but i have been truly shockingly disturbed over and over by this weirdness. So much so that i think maybe christians are unwitting deluded guards of what is vital importance. it's hard for me to say it right. Like they're so loudly consumed by the bullshit and repeat it over and over that it makes people want to stay away and look no further.
they're the Morons hiding the gate. i know im generalizing but i think it serves.
Aack! i wanted to talk about numbers! but now am all tired out. Guess I'll leave it for now.
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yup. I had the same feeling of disbelief when I started to realize how miraculous and profound our reality actually is, especially as compared to how we are raised... and that Christ is the law in the spirit realm, as many of the people on the list of testimonies can attest to...

now the Bible appears like the most eloquent book, a Divine gift from God... a blue print and diary and mirror of our destiny...

just consider most of what we are told to be false or based on half-truths or made up... it is all just a poem of consciousness...

the truth is God would allow us to create any reality we desire... there just happen to be some supernatural forces here influencing events and a group who has decided to try to control this and/or use it for their benefit...

part of me suspects that the people in the occult at the top are balancing a very tricky thing: the influence of the supernatural on world events... I suspect that they are doing this by allowing certain things, like organized crime and drug dealing and controlling them...

I mean, we can't have a bunch of drug dealing billionaires running around doing whatever they want, can we? Perhaps this is why the best technology is sequestered away, as the head of Lockheed Skunkworks is supposed to have said on his death bed that they can take ET home any day of the week...

yet, there does appear to be a luciferian agenda and this too explains the current world situation... even better, when you consider it is enslaving...

even without luciferian agendas this would be true... I mean HAL is IBM for a reason... it does appear we are in for a major dilemma, more so if the bible were not true...

:)
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the electric universe theory makes a lot of sense and when you consider that everything is vibratory and electric, reality more easily conforms to the miraculous...

it is interesting that Professor Veith points out, as does scientist Steven Meyer in his less entertaining and eloquent presentation, Centre for Intelligent Design Lecture 2011, that science is now starting to call the origins of life, creationism by an intelligent designer, in all but name and God.

Meyer does make an interesting point that the dna looks a lot like a language and follows many rules of programming our software designers are quite aware of. He further points out that there is no example of a language without a form of intelligence behind it.

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why luciferianism?

we are in a fallen state of consciousness. people hate to hear this, but yet understand intuitively that life could be better and so tend to blame God or deny Him.

Far better to realize that relative to a more perfect consciousness of love and light we are dim and fallen... capable only of imagining a better world. Ah, the crime of a song like "Imagine," denying the obvious intelligence and Divine and yet, can you blame John Lennon? In addition to coming from a poor background, he may have had some form of mind-control and anyway, without the internet it would have been very difficult to penetrate the deception, though it appears that many in the rock and roll movement did start to and were eliminated.

John understood the military industrial machine--how much farther would he have needed to go to realize the trap of his rampant substance use and tie it together into a luciferian agenda. He clearly seems to have known "the world was run by crazy people with crazy agendas" to paraphrase him--he might soon have realized they were possessed and/or worshipping spirits.

Imagine the songs he might have made then?

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we just have to keep in mind that we chose this consciousness, much like we choose to do so many things that are bad for us: because it pleases us, because we are curious and because, perhaps, we have a spark of the Divine in us that we must eventually learn to put into perspective, rather than feed to megalomania.

lucifer fell, why shouldn't we?

it appears that God set up this system so that we might not fall further... that we might come to realize, with persistent searching for truth, that we must choose to glorify God of our own free will.

Somehow, someone like John Lennon seems like another example of a special case: someone who pushed harder than most but fell short of the mark. You do not get the idea that he would have rejected Christ had he figured out the game here. He was courageous and though he failed often in his personal life, he also succeeded and used his art to try to make a difference based on truth as he knew it.

This as opposed to many supposedly pious people who pretend to be good but are actually bad and have no interest in the truth.

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Watching "The Hobbit" recently seemed like an insight into pre-flood times. These were indeed magical times, but also times where evil and ugliness could become imbalanced.

Looking at trolls and orcs and goblins and how hideous they are, or how far a good being could fall as in the case of gollum, it is not hard to imagine why God might want to reset the creation, sparing only a small amount of seed. Especially if a reliance on magic rather than God became the norm. Even Tolkein seems to suggest that magic can become worse than any evil giant or troll, because clever people might still be seduced by ego and the need for power and perpetrate evil on a grander scale unimagined by simpler forms of evil.

This makes me wonder about a few things. Like was their more than one ark? Did some giants survive? Why do native peoples have legends of a few remaining red-haired giants? Are there still giants among us?

These questions come from researching these topics.

They call into question the bible and yet the bible is a blue print. It is not designed to answer every question, many of which would only be distractions that might last a lifetime.

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Film-maker Aaron Russo is said to have spoken to a Rockefeller about what the plan is and he was told they want to microchip everyone.

Aaron asked why, when they have all the money in the world, would they want to do this.

What never gets said is that the elite are terrified of losing control of the supernatural influence on the planet.

This is the real reason the ufo topic is covered up.

It may also be the real reason Christianity is undermined and corrupted. And why other indigenous cultures worshipping the supernatural have been destroyed.

Whoever accesses and makes deals with the supernatural, rules, no matter how much gold you have.

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I've been saying to people for some time now that it's the Old World Order not a new one, they just wear different clothes now and have new people to torment.
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Film-maker Aaron Russo is said to have spoken to a Rockefeller about what the plan is and he was told they want to microchip everyone.

Aaron asked why, when they have all the money in the world, would they want to do this.

What never gets said is that the elite are terrified of losing control of the supernatural influence on the planet.

This is the real reason the ufo topic is covered up.

It may also be the real reason Christianity is undermined and corrupted. And why other indigenous cultures worshipping the supernatural have been destroyed.

Whoever accesses and makes deals with the supernatural, rules, no matter how much gold you have.

:)
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I've been saying to people for some time now that it's the Old World Order not a new one, they just wear different clothes now and have new people to torment.
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Indeed. It does appear this way. However, I suspect that the apparent thread of control is purely supernatural/powers &principalities.
For example, supposedly when alchemist John dee first contacted spirits and was told Jesus was someone other than the bible portrays his first thought was that he had contacted demon spirits. Indeed he likely had, however, once the supernatural had influenced the pope to condemn the British monarchy and cause catholic nations to prepare to invade England, he likely had no choice but to make a deal w them... This is IMO, why the Spanish Armada was destroyed.

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You have the same phenomenon repeating itself throughout history. Hannibal was in contact w the supernatural and appears to have been led by them. This terrified Rome and likely forced them to make deals w the supernatural.

Only a very few need to be in the know. The physical threat is enough to do the rest. And so God could easily predict where this was headed: one world global governance.

Actually, looking at the global system of pyramids, from china to the America's to Bosnia and of course Egypt, it seems obvious that there was a pre-flood global order.

Interesting that new agers think there was a golden age when everything was more magical and the supernatural was more directly involved here. This seems likely, but the result may have caused God to cause our condition here to fall even more, in order to avoid the great evil that appears to have resulted.

In this sense, our reality may reflect our consciousness, much like, the Old Testament reflects past human consciousness.

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As a film buff, I have admired Meetings With Remarkable Men

When I first saw it I thought it was quite beautiful and wished to go to the place depicted. It is a beautiful idea: a place to perfect oneself.

It also caused me to wonder if the real ptb are not people living in seclusion somewhere and using occult knowledge, they travel outside of their bodies and with their special skills they rule from afar.

There are a few problems with this idea.

1) we cannot perfect ourselves in this fallen and rebellious vibratory state. This seems like the purpose of some of the dance and exercises: to raise vibratory states of being. Yes, we can do this, but at what cost?

2) Former occultists like Mark Cleminson and Carolyn Hamlett have been schooled in these abilities and have worked directly for "the plan" and they say it is not in humanity's best interests.

3) Earthquake Kelly's testimonies as a voodoo priest in training illustrate another angle of the types of beings we are really in contact with when we develop these abilities. They also illustrate the egoic nature of developing these abilities.

If someone were to have told me that we should not develop ourselves by meditation and chanting and use of entheogens I would have talked about all the benefits and how we need to break free from being enslaved and even that this was Christ's real message.

I might have even considered that we are in a matrix of control not to be released until we learn to raise our vibratory state. In fact, this seemed like the only thing we might take with us after death.

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I have wondered similar things OP. I wanted to think about this:

1) we cannot perfect ourselves in this fallen and rebellious vibratory state.

This is true, as we both seem to agree that naturally we are born into a fallen state, and thus fallen, and thus incapable of understanding, or communing with the Divine. As for me, unless God intercedes on our part, we are blind ignorant dumb and stupid incapable of understanding God, that is without the Sacrifice and rebirth.

But, the Word of God is amazing and in particular these passages and their context:

Matt 26:64 Jesus said to him, "You have said it yourself; nevertheless I tell you, hereafter you will see THE SON OF MAN SITTING AT THE RIGHT HAND OF POWER, and COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN."

Mark 13:26 "Then they will see THE SON OF MAN COMING IN CLOUDS with great power and glory.

Mark 14:62 And Jesus said, "I am; and you shall see THE SON OF MAN SITTING AT THE RIGHT HAND OF POWER, and COMING WITH THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN."

In context, who was Christ talking to? In Matt 26:64 He was speaking directly to Caiaphas, the high priest. Note He used imagery from the prophecies of Daniel, "clouds of heaven, right hand of power". Its as if He meant Caiaphas would see these things personally. So, if we assume Caiaphas died, and was not saved or reborn later, then he would not be alive at the time of Christs' return.

So how could he actually see these things predicted if he were dead? I doubt Christ meant he would see these things transpire from hell, although is is possible I guess. There is the possibility though of a literal translation which would suggest that by the power of Gods Word of Christs Word this man and perhaps others were immediately suspended in some sort of regenerative state preventing them from dying until Christs literal return.

Matt 24:34 "Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place."


A possibility.
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THE LILY WAVE

ULTRASONIC WAVEFORMS = MIND CONTROL WAVES, CREATES FEAR

CREATE SIGNATURE OF FEAR, ANGER, ETC

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This is another reason to turn to Christ. This is the consciousness of being forgiven. When you start to work for God you are afforded protection from things like this, which pervade everything. But the truth is, the supernatural is constantly attacking your mind if you let them.

It seems odd how repeating the Lord's Prayer and asking for help in Jesus's name is so powerful, especially if you have cravings or negative thoughts you are trying to cope with. These are literally demonic energy beings and asking for help in Jesus's name repeatedly, to show sincerity, has cleansed me of many hassles of consciousness.

Consciousness is more powerful than any technology and awareness of God and the forgiveness of negative energies in thought or deed, that Christ represents, is the most powerful place to be. I am convinced that once you freely choose this path you are safer here and in the afterlife. Cares for the bombardment of low frequency waves and vibrations of ugliness put out by technology become weak little toys in comparison. Choose to be sovereign free will beings working for God. Do this by treating everyone with as much respect and love as possible and asking for forgiveness every day. Lord's Prayer three times a day, even.

Just being aware of the profundity of this reality and that each person is a spirit having a human experience and our responsibility is to show love and truth to all, for God's glory: this is a powerful thought form. We are the creations God is voicing into existence. In this sense we effect how beautiful what He says is. We don't need to worry about anything else.

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So Bruce Lipton's work is something that everyone should be aware of.

From a Christ-centered perspective, it explains why Christ could not perform miracles in some towns who were too unbelieving.

This is probably not because he couldn't, but because it would over-ride the free will of those people to a degree that appears opposite spiritual law.

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Hi OP, just wanted to say thank you, and fantastic job on this thread. I am a big fan of the work of Mr. Lipton, I believe! I am am only half way through reading all your info, but wanted to thank you for your posts thus far.

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Thank you and feel free to post any new stuff on Lipton and others. the new age has some great insights and i enjoy most of the alternative movement--they often have interesting insights into the nature of reality.
I wonder where dr. lipton is at now... Need to get back and see if he has newer vids up.

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As a film buff, I have admired Meetings With Remarkable Men

When I first saw it I thought it was quite beautiful and wished to go to the place depicted. It is a beautiful idea: a place to perfect oneself.

It also caused me to wonder if the real ptb are not people living in seclusion somewhere and using occult knowledge, they travel outside of their bodies and with their special skills they rule from afar.

There are a few problems with this idea.

1) we cannot perfect ourselves in this fallen and rebellious vibratory state. This seems like the purpose of some of the dance and exercises: to raise vibratory states of being. Yes, we can do this, but at what cost?

2) Former occultists like Mark Cleminson and Carolyn Hamlett have been schooled in these abilities and have worked directly for "the plan" and they say it is not in humanity's best interests.

3) Earthquake Kelly's testimonies as a voodoo priest in training illustrate another angle of the types of beings we are really in contact with when we develop these abilities. They also illustrate the egoic nature of developing these abilities.

If someone were to have told me that we should not develop ourselves by meditation and chanting and use of entheogens I would have talked about all the benefits and how we need to break free from being enslaved and even that this was Christ's real message.

I might have even considered that we are in a matrix of control not to be released until we learn to raise our vibratory state. In fact, this seemed like the only thing we might take with us after death.

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I have wondered similar things OP. I wanted to think about this:

1) we cannot perfect ourselves in this fallen and rebellious vibratory state.

This is true, as we both seem to agree that naturally we are born into a fallen state, and thus fallen, and thus incapable of understanding, or communing with the Divine. As for me, unless God intercedes on our part, we are blind ignorant dumb and stupid incapable of understanding God, that is without the Sacrifice and rebirth.

But, the Word of God is amazing and in particular these passages and their context:

Matt 26:64 Jesus said to him, "You have said it yourself; nevertheless I tell you, hereafter you will see THE SON OF MAN SITTING AT THE RIGHT HAND OF POWER, and COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN."

Mark 13:26 "Then they will see THE SON OF MAN COMING IN CLOUDS with great power and glory.

Mark 14:62 And Jesus said, "I am; and you shall see THE SON OF MAN SITTING AT THE RIGHT HAND OF POWER, and COMING WITH THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN."

In context, who was Christ talking to? In Matt 26:64 He was speaking directly to Caiaphas, the high priest. Note He used imagery from the prophecies of Daniel, "clouds of heaven, right hand of power". Its as if He meant Caiaphas would see these things personally. So, if we assume Caiaphas died, and was not saved or reborn later, then he would not be alive at the time of Christs' return.

So how could he actually see these things predicted if he were dead? I doubt Christ meant he would see these things transpire from hell, although is is possible I guess. There is the possibility though of a literal translation which would suggest that by the power of Gods Word of Christs Word this man and perhaps others were immediately suspended in some sort of regenerative state preventing them from dying until Christs literal return.

Matt 24:34 "Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place."


A possibility.
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Thanks for those thoughts and verses... I got shiver up my spine when I read them, for some reason... :)

Couple of thoughts:

1) based on ken peters prophetic dream/vision, the dead will rise and we will all see it! Freaky and beautiful times my be in store for us.

My parents were raised Christian and yet when I talk bout the reality and proofs for giants and present-time dinosaurs and especially, about the luciferian globalist agenda and proofs for this... They look afraid to me.... The idea that tv and most of the media is consciousness controlling irks them... They think they can live in denial and make it all go away.

I recently moved from a family business in part because they could not handle this stuff... And I am not interested in living in a lie... They would constantly complain about stuff and when I tell them to stop watching tv or that many of their problems are by design... They seem to know and yet not want to believe it... Paralyzed by such a massive deception...

Actually, once you wrap your head around it, it is all just smoke and mirrors and we are free will sovereign creations and we actually have it pretty good.

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