BLOOD and AMBULANCE FAIL - please pin

Seriously, if I have to read one more retarded post from American gun nuts I will vomit. I always thought Americans were a little loopy (something about them mostly being related to the cast-offs who couldn't hack it in Europe), but the things I'm reading lately are just beyond belief.

Yes, Americans, go and hug your rifles and handguns; keep on praying to your fairytale god and convincing yourselves that you are his chosen people. Keep on freaking out at alcohol and sex - oh for how evil it all is. But keep on loving your guns and not trusting your fellow countrymen. Keep on being paranoid of your government - you know, the one you elected under that concept you like to claim as your own, democracy. Keep on bitching about us Brits for 'repressing' you hundreds of years ago. Keep on being the most selfish people on the planet, consuming more of everything than anyone else, and yet denying good healthcare to all as a a basic right. Keep on harping on about 'freedom and liberty' as the rest as us in Europe increasingly refuse to even travel to your country because of your facist TSA and police state that makes everyone who visits feel like a terrorist.

We in Britain will always be grateful to the America that helped in the past - the America that was - but that America has gone. You have sleepwalked into your own nightmare and now we look across the Atlantic and shake our heads wondering where the hell you went wrong and what killed the American dream.

May your 'god' help you all.

Totally, I raised three of them, and I'm sure not even one would have kept their eyes closed, especially after being told to do so.

Total and complete bullshit!! First responders may "know" when someone is dead, but they aren't the ones to make that determination. Not only that, but at least where I live, they often get themselves covered with blood during resuscitation attempts. I have NEVER heard one say, "Oh yeah, they're dead, we don't have to do anything".

In all fairness, I have three kids too...and I think if they sensed fear in my voice, and I told them to keep their eyes shut, they probably would...Probably. I don't know if they'd keep their eyes shut if someone else told them to...even a person in a position of authority.

None of this adds up. 1+1 always equals 2....There are so many variable stories here, that nothing is adding up.

What keeps nagging me is that we have such a diverse crowd here at GLP...From all areas of the world...and not just on GLP, all over the internet. Not one eyewitness is saying anything. I've heard personally from a person less than 20 miles from where it happened, but nobody directly involved...don't ya think one of us on here would hear something from somebody???? Honestly? Just my two cents.

did anyone see the interview with Hochsprings family. some of the husbands statements seemed very odd. I tried to pull it up on HLN but it appears to be the only video on that site that wont play. can someone capture it and take a looksee? I think I remember him saying he got a phone call and rushed down there and entered the school. it aired yesterday

This is just another federal drill gone LIVE, like 9/11/2001

As a former paramedic with a decade of experience, let me say, OP you are completely out of your conspiratard mind.

Since no real paramedic would give up on the lives of 18 children merely on the say-so of a cop, you must be a paid shill.

As others have correctly pointed out: If 18 children had really died, at least 18 ambulances would have quickly shown up, and all children would have been taken to area hospitals. Real paramedics would not give up on children, especially not without examination.

Where is your proof that it DIDN'T happen?

The medical examiner was called to the scene.

A six year old with an average of ten high-powered high caliber shells in them is not going to warrant any attempt to resuscitate.

Also no one would have been allowed to approach with sirens until the situation was known as far as hostages.

And I saw plenty of hysterical parents running all over the place even though most were being told to report to the fire house.

Op from what i heard here, bodies were left there for the investigators etc. Tehn i heard the bodies were removed overnight. Have the media been streaming from the location 24/7 ?

Yes, the Official Story is that:

1) Friday evening, the police announce that the dead children will be left to rot in the school until at least Sunday.

2) Saturday morning, the police announce that the dead children have been magically spirited away to the medical examiner's office, and that autopsies have already been performed.

3) Not a single member of the media has a single photo or video of this alleged midnight transport.

I know people in the Emergency Dept at Danbury Hospital--they knew almost immediately everyone was dead. Three people were brought to the hospital--an adult and two children. That's all. For you, OP to insinuate there was some conspiracy here is ludicrous. First responders know when people are dead and they aren't going to get themselves covered in blood attempting to resuscitate obviously dead people. They also have to wait for the ME before removing dead people at a crime scene.