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Son of the Isle  User ID: 26864444  Canada12/17/2012 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In February 2006, longtime family Boss Joseph "Jimmy" Lanza died. Now, the Lanza Family is most likely extinct. Though Law enforcement believes former Jimmy Fratianno associate, Frank J. "Skinny" Velotta, has been the head of the San Francisco mob since 1996. Is there a relation to Adam Lanza here? αιδουσι ~ "The angel of the LORD encampeth round about them that fear him, and delivereth them." (Psa 34:7) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2122006  United States12/17/2012 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think a lot of the media reported information wrong. This is not unusual as everyone wants to know information so quickly. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27945631 For example, they were reporting the shooter's mom was a teacher inside the school and he had gone there to shoot her. The Newton Bee also took that picture of the teacher leading the kids out. One of the very first released. All the other media sources wanted it. The Newton Bee gave it away free. Pretty amazing! Getting "I'm the principal" wrong? Really? A middle school kid would get that right. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2122006 United States12/17/2012 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Reporter got the name of the principal too so it was not a mix up between vice and principal. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2122006 Or, as one person conjectured, they didn't actually get the name and went by their notes on who this "principal" was. The retraction is basically telling the reader "Someone claiming to be either the principal and/or Dawn Hochsprung" Because if you read it one way, you could read it as saying that someone, unnamed, merely said "principal" without giving the name. And that the reporter filled in the name being that "the principal" is Hochsprung. Or you could read it your way and read it as saying that someone unnamed claimed to be Hochsprung. Or you could read it as saying that it wasn't Hochsprung because she was dead so that it had to be someone else. That would mean they are stating as a fact that she was dead at the time of the call and couldn't have made the call due to that. So there are so many possible mistakes and the biggest one is writing an article and making a retraction that is left open to interpretation. That should require another retraction. Regardless, someone is posing as the principal. No. What you do not understand is that the principal is very much alive but is now tucked away in a secure COG location because she was one of the selected. The newspaper simply fucked up and they got exposed. More likely than the official bs they are feeding. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30132491  Germany12/17/2012 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nobody noticed that "she" said "A masked man entered with a RIFLE and started shooting..... I THOUGHT ADAM HAD 2 PISTOLS????? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29045520 SMH. The masked man wasnt Adam it was the 2 guys they arrested and yes they were shooting rifles! Period! SMH. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS THIS THIS A big drill with all the stuff they need: A crazy patsy under mind control. Pro Hitmen who know how to shoot. Actors around to push the narrative: Thread: Another pair of actors in Sandy hoax exposed. 100% BUSTED! (Page 6) And the mass media to filter the news. Tough as always when you try to lie.. many many slip ups.. Oh and: Enough sheep to buy the story (and shills who work for a minimum wage the forums with the truthers..) |
| StormeyGoddess User ID: 22004193 United States12/17/2012 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  THEY RELEASED DISINFO EARLY AND GOT IT WRONG. EPIC FIND, OP. THIS IS HUGE. THEY WERE PLANTING THE FALSE STORY EARLY ON AND SLIPPED UP. You are all missing the fact that the first report made was that, the Principal recognized him as the son of a teacher so she buzzed him in.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27719164 Then comes the Newtown Bee story that the principal said a "masked man".. was shooting. The first part was later changed to .. "He shot a window out and forced his way in" So obviously, if the lone gunman wore a mask, the previous statement could not have happened.. as the principal would not have recognized him. The other hole, I find is that, if he planned on killing himself when going in there, then why wear a mask?? I must have missed that. I only read that the shooting started at 9:30 a.m. and ended at 9:32 a.m. With the Sandy Hook Fire and Rescue Company right on the corner of the only entrance into the school, one would think those calls for help would have gone out a lot sooner and help would be there in about one minute. [link to goo.gl] So, the principal was calmly calling the news station to report the situation before the swat team got there...That makes sense..."Hey Newspaper, waiting on the squad to get here, all the kids are dead...just thought I'd give ya'll a call and let ya know what's going on while i'm waiting"... FUCK NO!!!!!! This story was printed before it happened...Dawn Hochsprung had to be an accidental death...Oops, someone fucked up...and then she's portrayed as the hero who threw herself at the gunman...When in reality, she was probably never supposed to die... OH, AND BTW, he broke in where? And started shooting in the principals office???? Suuuurrrreeee...Cuz that makes sense... "Don't look back, you're not going that way." "As for me and my family, we will serve the Lord.” |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 28535621 United States12/17/2012 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Reporter got the name of the principal too so it was not a mix up between vice and principal. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2122006 Or, as one person conjectured, they didn't actually get the name and went by their notes on who this "principal" was. The retraction is basically telling the reader "Someone claiming to be either the principal and/or Dawn Hochsprung" Because if you read it one way, you could read it as saying that someone, unnamed, merely said "principal" without giving the name. And that the reporter filled in the name being that "the principal" is Hochsprung. Or you could read it your way and read it as saying that someone unnamed claimed to be Hochsprung. Or you could read it as saying that it wasn't Hochsprung because she was dead so that it had to be someone else. That would mean they are stating as a fact that she was dead at the time of the call and couldn't have made the call due to that. So there are so many possible mistakes and the biggest one is writing an article and making a retraction that is left open to interpretation. That should require another retraction. Regardless, someone is posing as the principal. Yes, they didn't say whether or not a name was given. ..and, yes, that is what the text of the retraction is implying, someone claiming to be the principal of the high school, and it is also implying that it was not Hochsprung "who was dead" [at the time of the call] who called. Typically, people give their name then title. Most people would not just throw out their title with no name whatsoever. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30132491 Germany12/17/2012 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jimmy "the Hat" Lanza. The entire Family was marked. Quoting: Son of the Isle In February 2006, longtime family Boss Joseph "Jimmy" Lanza died. Now, the Lanza Family is most likely extinct. Though Law enforcement believes former Jimmy Fratianno associate, Frank J. "Skinny" Velotta, has been the head of the San Francisco mob since 1996. Is there a relation to Adam Lanza here? could be material for another thread: Skinny [link to www.geocities.ws] [link to i.dailymail.co.uk] [link to i.dailymail.co.uk] |
| Mastema User ID: 29645223 United States12/17/2012 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think a lot of the media reported information wrong. This is not unusual as everyone wants to know information so quickly. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27945631 For example, they were reporting the shooter's mom was a teacher inside the school and he had gone there to shoot her. The Newton Bee also took that picture of the teacher leading the kids out. One of the very first released. All the other media sources wanted it. The Newton Bee gave it away free. Pretty amazing! Getting "I'm the principal" wrong? Really? A middle school kid would get that right. If their owners are dumb enough to pass up on such a grand opportunity then it's no wonder that their incompetence goes all the way down to the reporting level and even to the vagueness displayed in the "retractive" reporting level. If they have any integrity they will make a note about the retraction, in order to be more specific on such a serious matter. “If we could change ourselves, the tendencies in the world would also change. As a man changes his own nature, so does the attitude of the world change towards him. ... We need not wait to see what others do.” -Mahatma Ghandi |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27945631 Canada12/17/2012 07:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think a lot of the media reported information wrong. This is not unusual as everyone wants to know information so quickly. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27945631 For example, they were reporting the shooter's mom was a teacher inside the school and he had gone there to shoot her. The Newton Bee also took that picture of the teacher leading the kids out. One of the very first released. All the other media sources wanted it. The Newton Bee gave it away free. Pretty amazing! Getting "I'm the principal" wrong? Really? A middle school kid would get that right. If their owners are dumb enough to pass up on such a grand opportunity then it's no wonder that their incompetence goes all the way down to the reporting level and even to the vagueness displayed in the "retractive" reporting level. If they have any integrity they will make a note about the retraction, in order to be more specific on such a serious matter. wow, you totally missed the boat on this one. there is no 'grand opportunity' when 26 truly amazing people get murdered. sad it's about opportunity for some people. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 5217973 United States12/17/2012 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You guys keep asking about the mask why did he have a mask on if he was gonna kill himself.... Well for 1 I believe the mask and most likely matching outfits of all the shooters was done to make the surviving victims think it was only 1 shooter. 2, if no masks people identify multiple faces. The shooters drop their two rifles (murder weapons) and run out. Like I've stated in previous posts HOW DID THEY MESS UP SO BAD THE SHOOTERS GOT CAUGHT. No other "lone wolf" shootings ever messed up so bad that the real shooters got caught. This is why I know for a fact this was set up by a small group of people and the general police didn't know. Like the firefighters in 911 they were like "we heard boom boom boom like bombs". That cop on the dispatch was the same way... Truthful, little did he know he was exposing their plan to the world. Now suits prolly showed up threading his family demanding silence. Ima bet we NEVER hear that cop speak on it and prolly won't ever get them to release anything on these 2 hired hands. God works in mysterious ways and somehow they were caught almost red handed. And my fellow silly ass Americans won't even press the media/police to do their jobs. 1. Fingerprint 2 fatigued guys to match prints on 2nd + 3rd recovered rifles. 2. Blast their faces on camera for more info 3. Push the ? How did the bodies have .223 bullet damage and Adam had 9 mill + .40/.45 4. Ask the ? What caliber killed Adam (betting .223) 5. If so who shot him since he only had handguns. Those questions will blow this case open. Please ppl spread this word. Together we stand, UNITED WE FALL! I'd like to say 1 more thing that most of u will prolly turn on me now since y'all seem to hate Obama. Im a supporter of him and I felt like he was pissed to say in that speech at the memorial "he's basically bout to take the guns" cuz the order came from above. I think he knows what's up and knows if he says anything Joe Biden will be the 45th president. #thatisall  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30178478 United States12/17/2012 07:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are all missing the fact that the first report made was that, the Principal recognized him as the son of a teacher so she buzzed him in.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27719164 Then comes the Newtown Bee story that the principal said a "masked man".. was shooting. The first part was later changed to .. "He shot a window out and forced his way in" So obviously, if the lone gunman wore a mask, the previous statement could not have happened.. as the principal would not have recognized him. The other hole, I find is that, if he planned on killing himself when going in there, then why wear a mask?? So the principal knew something different than what is now being reported. Probably knew actual facts, based on what she had seen, and that did not advance the story of lone young gunman. poof. |
| StormeyGoddess User ID: 22004193 United States12/17/2012 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Reporter got the name of the principal too so it was not a mix up between vice and principal. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2122006 Or, as one person conjectured, they didn't actually get the name and went by their notes on who this "principal" was. The retraction is basically telling the reader "Someone claiming to be either the principal and/or Dawn Hochsprung" Because if you read it one way, you could read it as saying that someone, unnamed, merely said "principal" without giving the name. And that the reporter filled in the name being that "the principal" is Hochsprung. Or you could read it your way and read it as saying that someone unnamed claimed to be Hochsprung. Or you could read it as saying that it wasn't Hochsprung because she was dead so that it had to be someone else. That would mean they are stating as a fact that she was dead at the time of the call and couldn't have made the call due to that. So there are so many possible mistakes and the biggest one is writing an article and making a retraction that is left open to interpretation. That should require another retraction. Regardless, someone is posing as the principal. No. What you do not understand is that the principal is very much alive but is now tucked away in a secure COG location because she was one of the selected. The newspaper simply fucked up and they got exposed. I don't think she's alive...I think she accidentally got shot...I think she was supposed to be alive, hence the quote. "Don't look back, you're not going that way." "As for me and my family, we will serve the Lord.” |
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| Legendary User ID: 10255073 United States12/17/2012 08:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It appears the Newtown Bee has pulled their story directly quoting principal Dawn Hochsprung after the attack. (She was later reported as one of the first who was murdered.) Here is a link to a screen capture of that article for anyone interested in saving it: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28535621 [link to imageshack.us] Alive and well. "Sandy Hook School Principal Dawn Hochsprung told The Bee that a masked man entered the school with a rifle and started shooting multiple shows – more than she could count – that went "on and on." [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] One of the first murdered. "An open intercom broadcast the murder of school principal Dawn Hochsprung, 47, to terrified students at Sandy Hook Elementary School providing teachers and students with vital time to run and hide." The article originally ran at this web address: [link to newtownbee.com] I also screen capped it yesterday. [link to postimage.org] I am Legendary |
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| Skeptic the First User ID: 29947468 United States12/17/2012 08:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The retraction means that someone was impersonating the school principle for some reason. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8625642 There was no impersonation. That was precisely Dawn Hochsprung, the principal. She was not initially planning to go along with the others into the secret program, but changed her mind--perhaps because the children refused to go into the program without her. |
| StormeyGoddess User ID: 22004193 United States12/17/2012 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The retraction means that someone was impersonating the school principle for some reason. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8625642 There was no impersonation. That was precisely Dawn Hochsprung, the principal. She was not initially planning to go along with the others into the secret program, but changed her mind--perhaps because the children refused to go into the program without her. I don't believe anybody impersonated her either. I don't believe anybody intended for her to die in the beginning...Something went way wrong somewhere...and you know, we will never know the truth. Bleh! "Don't look back, you're not going that way." "As for me and my family, we will serve the Lord.” |
| Skeptic the First User ID: 29947468 United States12/17/2012 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For example, they were reporting the shooter's mom was a teacher inside the school and he had gone there to shoot her. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27945631 It's not a vague "they," it's the New York Times, which printed that as gospel truth without any hedging whatsoever. Of course, they have now published a "correction." The backtracking is nonsensical because it refers to "reports at the time," whereas all other news sources attribute this version of the story to the New York Times itself! The most likely hypothesis is that the New York Times got a "script" in advance, and was only later informed that the "script" had to be changed on the fly. [link to www.nytimes.com] --- Correction: December 17, 2012 An earlier version of this article, based on reports at the time, indicated that the school’s principal recognized the gunman and allowed him to enter the building. In fact, he shot his way in, defeating the security system requiring visitors to be buzzed in. --- |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8625642 United States12/17/2012 08:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The retraction means that someone was impersonating the school principle for some reason. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8625642 There was no impersonation. That was precisely Dawn Hochsprung, the principal. She was not initially planning to go along with the others into the secret program, but changed her mind--perhaps because the children refused to go into the program without her. I don't believe anybody impersonated her either. I don't believe anybody intended for her to die in the beginning...Something went way wrong somewhere...and you know, we will never know the truth. Bleh! When did she give an interview then before being shot? If she was huddled in her office, then she didn't do it then. Once the police arrived, they would have shuttled everyone out. She can't be killed at that point. So how did she give the interview AND THEN be killed? |
| Lilbabez33 User ID: 15789862 United States12/17/2012 08:37 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The article states: "Some of the victims were shot at close range, and each child was shot between three and 11 times" how many ammo this guy had???? Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough." -Albert Einstein ------------------------------------- ------------------------------------- The problem is not the problem, the problem is your attitude about the problem. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "May future generations look back on our work and say that these were men and women who, in a moment of great crisis, stood up to their politicians, the opinion-makers, and the establishment, and saved their country." - Dr. Ron Paul .......................................................................... Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank. Give a man a bank and he can rob the world ..................................... ..................................... "And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand it's meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment." -JFK .......................................................................... |
| Spittin'Cesium User ID: 14589973  Netherlands12/17/2012 08:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Police Radio - [link to www.youtube.com] The thing that hath been, is That which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun. Ecclesiastes 9:1 |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30163568 Germany12/17/2012 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to newtownbee.com] "Retraction And Apology An early online report from the scene at the December 14 shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School quoted a woman who identified herself to our reporter as the principal of the school. The woman was not the school's principal, Dawn Hochsprung, who was killed in the Friday morning attack. The quote was removed from subsequent online versions of the story, but the original story did remain in our online archive for three days before being deleted. We apologize for whatever confusion this may have caused our readers and for any pain or anguish it may have cause the Hochsprung family." |
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| StormeyGoddess User ID: 22004193 United States12/17/2012 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The retraction means that someone was impersonating the school principle for some reason. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8625642 There was no impersonation. That was precisely Dawn Hochsprung, the principal. She was not initially planning to go along with the others into the secret program, but changed her mind--perhaps because the children refused to go into the program without her. I don't believe anybody impersonated her either. I don't believe anybody intended for her to die in the beginning...Something went way wrong somewhere...and you know, we will never know the truth. Bleh! When did she give an interview then before being shot? If she was huddled in her office, then she didn't do it then. Once the police arrived, they would have shuttled everyone out. She can't be killed at that point. So how did she give the interview AND THEN be killed? I think the story was already a done deal...Script was already given to the newspaper...Here publish this as soon as you hear...blah blah blah... This site has made me batshit crazy....I don't think she ever spoke to the news...I think the news had the story BEFORE it happened...The Principal was quoted cuz they already had the story and she wasn't supposed to die...But somehow she did die...ooops.... Movie material, right? I am so fucked in the head....ugh...I was normal before GLP :-) "Don't look back, you're not going that way." "As for me and my family, we will serve the Lord.” |
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| StormeyGoddess User ID: 22004193 United States12/17/2012 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And go read the story about the guy who kept half a dozen kids at his house for a few hours...omg, that is insane...more craziness to this story...I just don't understand... THIS STINKS!!!!! "Don't look back, you're not going that way." "As for me and my family, we will serve the Lord.” |
| 1 Conspiracy Question User ID: 30181156  Belgium12/17/2012 08:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is possible that organs have been removed from the dead bodies of the children and adults concerned, and this even without permission of the relatives ? "You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before." - Rahm Emanuel |
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