The problem with the bible, or any other religious text, is free will.

Once saved by the Holy Spirit, after your repentance from sin and your petition to God for mercy, the "oil" for the "lamp" to understand the bible turns the light on.
Until then you will never "understand".

God, the Word (John 1:1), is superior to and incorruptible by his creation,
whether man, principality, or otherwise.

God says the Word is pure (Prov. 30:5-6).

If God is incapable of preventing man from corrupting his Word, then he is not
God; there is no God.

The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. (Ps. 14:1)

Meaningless rebuttal. Anyone can make the old "until you've experienced what I've experienced you will never understand my point of view" claim.

I made the sand a boundary for the sea, an everlasting barrier it cannot cross. The waves may roll, but they cannot prevail; they may roar, but they cannot cross it. Jeremiah 5:22

There is your answer, OP.

If god DOES prevent man, or any other being, from corrupting his word then man does not truly have free will. Free will is one of the cornerstones of your faith is it not? That's always the response given when asked why god allow such and such horrible thing to occur, whether it be satan, natural disasters, or war. Invalidate free will, and your whole religion is invalidated.

Freewill I thought came from eating the Forbidden Fruit?

The knowledge of Good and Evil.

Prior to that we were indulgent in our ignorance.

Not sure what this is supposed to prove. The point of this thread is to explain how the integrity of the bible can be maintained without invalidating free will.

You are free, within the boundaries.

So we are free, to do what god tells us?

man has free will and can reject, make false translations of, and write lies
about God's Word, but God's Word in the King James Bible, virtually identical
to the Dead Sea Scrolls is eternal and incorruptible

your religion that you will not stand before God who created you and be held
accountable for your actions in this life is invalid

you most certainly will (2 Cor. 5:10)

man's sin is responsible for "such horrible thing to occur"

Thine own wickedness shall correct thee, and thy backslidings shall reprove
thee: know therefore and see that it is an evil thing and bitter, that thou hast
forsaken the Lord thy God, and that my fear is not in thee, saith the Lord God
of hosts. (Jer. 2:19)

Is the Above ^ ^ correct OP?

No, you are free within his natural laws, e.g.

I don't know, my take is that it is because of free will that adam and eve were allowed to eat the forbidden fruit. The knowledge of good and evil is a different matter, IMO.

Arguing with bible-tards is a waste of time, OP.

My religion, LOL. You don't know what my religion is, or whether or not I have one. This is pointless.

For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest
his deeds should be reproved. (John 3:20)

Thy nakedness shall be uncovered, yea, thy shame shall be seen (Isa. 47:3)

You're kind of a grim dude aren't you? I'm not sensing a lot of love, joy, and light coming through your words. Are you sure you picked the right god?

So you say it is "meaningless", but in a way it is the very definition of "meaning" to begin with.

All that "exists" to us is a personal point of view, or experience, so who's to say whether one view / perception / experience is any more or less valid from another?

Ah, the plight of existence... :)

Well, I agree with you, strange that you should make these remarks in defense of christians though. Given their proclivity for threatening eternal damnation on anyone who does not believe as they do.

no doubt jeffrey dahmer felt the same way about the cops as you feel about God

God's truth makes the wicked rightly ashamed

And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou
Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time? (Matt. 8:29)

Interesting. I hear this accusation often from atheists and other non-Christians. Have any examples in this thread or others? In my experience, the condemnation and accusations are from non-Christians and, often, self-proclaimed atheists. The hypocrisy is ironic.

Let's imagine we discover Bible texts thousands of years old. Then let's further imagine that those texts explicitly agree with every last detail of today's versions, allowing for a typo or minor word change. Could we then conclude that today's versions are not corrupted, at least since the inception of the newly discovered versions?

Ever hear of the 10 commandments? Did you know our common law system comes from the Old Testament?

My understanding is free will was given first- ie. the ability to 'choose'. Knowledge of good and evil were, and are a result of the consequences of choices made, so-
Man chooses.
God facilitates (and does not/ will not interfere).
Even 'divine intervention' is man on some level choosing to ask/ have some 'greater power' intercede on his behalf.

The old testament also says to stone gays and disobedient children.

Also mentions the unprovable Moses story where he split the red sea and survived for 40 years in a desert....

you have freedom to choose what you want to do. You don't necessarily have the power to carry out what you want to do.

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Free will exists only in your imagination.

Like all other creatures, we are programmed by our genetic code.


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all evolved from natural selection of beneficial mutations, I suppose? that doesn't seem to make sense, when humans are often, for instance, terrible parents, and animals parent instinctually and seem to have little choice but to do it right.

"religion" = Mind Control

That.Fucking.Simple.

so maybe anything that is mind control is a religion? I don't see too much going on that isn't an attempt at mind control.