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HERE IS WHY THESE CRIMES OCCUR

 
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Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Colombine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold’s medical records have never been made available to the public.

Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather’s girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.

Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.

Chris Fetters, age 13, killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.

Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.

Mathew Miller, age 13, hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days.

Jarred Viktor, age 15, stabbed his grandmother 61 times after 5 days on Paxil.

Kip Kinkel, age 15, (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.

Luke Woodham, age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.

A boy in Pocatello, ID (Zoloft) in 1998 had a Zoloft-induced seizure that caused an armed stand off at his school.

Michael Carneal (Ritalin), age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded..

A young man in Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.

Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.

TJ Solomon, age 15, (Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his class mates.

Rod Mathews, age 14, (Ritalin) beat a classmate to death with a bat.

James Wilson, age 19, (various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls, and wounding seven other children and two teachers.

Elizabeth Bush, age 13, (Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania

Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa) – school shooting in El Cajon, California

Jarred Viktor, age 15, (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.

Chris Shanahan, age 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who out of the blue killed a woman.

Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledge hammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic’s file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.

Neal Furrow (Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported to have been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications.

Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head. Initially it was ruled a suicide, but two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI antidepressants.

Alex Kim, age 13, hung himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.

Diane Routhier was prescribed Welbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself.

Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide – hanging from a tall ladder at the family’s Gulf Shore Boulevard home in July 2002.

Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet. Kara’s parents said “…. the damn doctor wouldn’t take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil…”)

Gareth Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002,

(Gareth’s father could not accept his son’s death and killed himself.)

Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hung herself in her family’s detached garage.

Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.

Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.

Woody ____, age 37, committed suicide while in his 5th week of taking Zoloft. Shortly before his death his physician suggested doubling the dose of the drug. He had seen his physician only for insomnia. He had never been depressed, nor did he have any history of any mental illness symptoms.

A boy from Houston, age 10, shot and killed his father after his Prozac dosage was increased.

Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and “other drugs for the conditions.”

Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine.

Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system.

Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School – then he committed suicide.

Asa Coon from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone.

Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his New York high school.

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Clear evidence that firearms killed those people, though. (sarcasm)
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mass media event of mass tramatisation of children has got to benifit somebody
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CLEARLY A CIA MANUFACTURED MIND CONTROL DRUG
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12/17/2012 06:53 PM
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Maybe the law we should pass is that people with emotional problems shouldn't breed because they tend to have kids with even worse problems and they don't know how to parent worth squat.
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bump clappa bump
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Drugs.
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CLEARLY A CIA MANUFACTURED MIND CONTROL DRUG
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10809107


I think it is opportunism. I do not think they invented or made those drugs. What I do think is that one or more alphabet agencies see the records of usage and select their zombies based on medical reports. It is just vaguely possible that they are influencing and encouraging physicians to prescribe them.
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OP is right...99% of them are on behavioral medication.

Could be a factor.
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Many times these antidepressant drugs have done this. I hate to say it but marijuana would probably work better.
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Good post OP- I have no doubt the 'chemicals play a significant role.
Back in the 12/13 century a followers of a breakaway religious sect were given hashish before they were directed to go and kill their detractors- they became known as 'Hashishins', which later became 'assassin'. It was said they had no recollection of the acts they'd committed.
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Maybe the law we should pass is that people with emotional problems shouldn't breed because they tend to have kids with even worse problems and they don't know how to parent worth squat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7570540


What ignorant drivel.

Where do you think the "emotional" problems start?

If it's in our genes to be "depressed" or "insane", then clearly we have failed ourselves as a species; psychiatric and "folk" advice on how to deal with these problems is flatly insufficient if not actively damaging.

If it's not an intrinsic human principle to be depressed, well... common sense says it isn't the victim's fault.

I've got a question for everyone: why does the FDA and medical industry continue to produce antidepressants that are demonstrably of no benefit, meanwhike the tried and true antidepressants remain illegal?
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Reports of unusual, severe reactions with selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor antidepressant drugs (SSRIs) emerged soon after the first SSRI, Prozac, was introduced in 1988. One of my own patients, a woman with a mild depressive disorder and no history of major psychiatric symptoms, became psychotic after just three days on Prozac. Another woman, a highly successful attorney, developed such severe panic attacks that she couldn't work. Such cases were reported so frequently that Congress held hearings on the issue in the early 1990s. But because the hearings got no further than arguing whether SSRIs cause suicidal and homicidal behavior or not, and never looked at the underlying causes, nothing was accomplished.


I have never doubted that SSRIs (Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, Celexa, Lexapro, Luvox, Effexor, Sarafem) can provoke impulsive, violent behavior. Now, sixteen years after the first reports, British regulatory authorities have acted against the use of SSRIs in children because of an increased incidence of suicide. This forced the U.S. Food and Drug Administration to take a second look. In early February 2004, a FDA advisory committee heard powerful testimony from bereaved parents and medical experts and issued a call for stronger warnings on the labels of these drugs. The FDA is considering it.


Even if the FDA acts, will such warnings make any difference? Not likely. As the FDA has learned, adding warnings to package inserts does little to improve how doctors prescribe drugs.1-3 Doctors kept prescribing Rezulin and Seldane inappropriately despite added warnings, and patients continued dying until the drugs were withdrawn. About 20% of all medications ultimately require additional "black-box" warnings about dangerous side effects discovered after the drugs' approvals,1 yet despite these additional warnings, doctors' prescribing methods remain poor and the incidence of medication-caused hospitalizations and deaths remains high.


Merely adding warnings to package inserts is inadequate because once doctors begin prescribing a drug, they don't read every updated package insert of every drug they use. Doing so would take hours, and package inserts are long and written in tiny, barely readable script, so new warnings are easily overlooked. Moreover, it usually takes years for such warnings to be added to package inserts, during which time doctors continue prescribing the drugs to millions of people. The fact is, most doctors rely on information provided by the drug companies' legions of sales representatives who accentuate the positive and downplay the negative.


What should be done? The answer is obvious: look at why these reactions are occurring and impose appropriate solutions.
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WHY NO EMOTION WAS SHOWN DURING THE CRIMES

Perhaps the best known psychological side effect of SSRIs is “amotivational syndrome”, a condition with symptoms that are clinically similar to those that develop when the frontal lobes of the brain are damaged. The syndrome is characterized by apathy, disinhibited behavior, demotivation and a personality change similar to the effects of lobotomy (Marangell et al. 2001, p.1059). All psychoactive drugs, including antidepressants, are known to blunt our emotional responses to some extent.
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What should be done? The answer is obvious: look at why these reactions are occurring and impose appropriate solutions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10809107


I agree if that means stripping the SSRIs of their indications until proper use/prescription patterns can be determined.

I can't help but notice that suicide, psychosis etc would not be an issue if opioid drugs were employed, especially in refractory MDD and anxiety disorders.
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WHY NO EMOTION WAS SHOWN DURING THE CRIMES

Perhaps the best known psychological side effect of SSRIs is “amotivational syndrome”, a condition with symptoms that are clinically similar to those that develop when the frontal lobes of the brain are damaged. The syndrome is characterized by apathy, disinhibited behavior, demotivation and a personality change similar to the effects of lobotomy (Marangell et al. 2001, p.1059). All psychoactive drugs, including antidepressants, are known to blunt our emotional responses to some extent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10809107


Except of course for the releasing agents. Amphetamine was the original "antidepressant".
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Andrea Yates drowned all of her five children in her bathtub one day.

She was taking two SSRI antidepressants, at maximum dosages, in addition to the antipsychotic haloperidol (Haldol). There had been an adjustment in the medication two days before this tragedy happened.

That adjustment alone was enough to cause this tragedy, bearing in mind that the most dangerous times by far during SSRI drug "therapy" occur when starting, stopping or changing the dosage of these drugs.






Andrea Yates' mother and brothers asked prosecutors to file criminal charges of negligence against a psychiatrist who treated the Houston homemaker in the weeks before she drowned her children.

Yates' relatives say Dr. Mohammad Saeed, a psychiatrist at the Devereux Texas Treatment Network in a Houston suburb, improperly medicated her with strong psychotropic drugs that are known to cause mania, anxiety, impaired judgment, agitation and aggressive reaction.

"We feel that our family would still be whole today if it were not for Dr. Saeed's terrible misconduct," Yates' relatives wrote to Harris County District Attorney Chuck Rosenthal.

But while Dr. Saeed may or may not have been negligent and/or incompetent, he did not invent these extremely dangerous drugs, which were known in the earliest clinical research trials to be highly capable of inducing akathisia (extreme anxiety), leading to suicidal and homicidal thoughts and behavior in many patients.

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