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Tough times at GM

 
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12/17/2012 08:33 PM
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Tough times at GM
So GM just debuted the new 2014 Sierra and Silverado. Both are identical with the exception of the grill and headlights. The current Sierra and Silverado have different bodystyles but GM apparently couldn't afford to build two different models anymore. The current Silverado is a bit of a joke and looks pieced together so the 2014 model is a great improvment. However as good as it looks, it doesn't take away from the fact that the 2014 models will be like pre-2007 models where the Sierra and Silverado are the same truck with different grill and headlights. If this is not a sign that tough times have hit GM then I don't know what is.

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12/17/2012 09:14 PM
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12/17/2012 09:37 PM
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I'm pretty sure this thread is meant to slam GM loyalists, or to get the shit stirred about "Obama Motors," but I will let you have my perspective (car guy, and GM truck owner since 1991).

Differences between 2014 Silverado and Sierra:

1. Entire front fascia is different-not just grill and headlights. Silverado's bumper is flat, GMC's is not.

2. GMC has fender flares-Chevy does not.

GMT1000 is a modest redesign, no doubt. I challenge you to prove to me that GMT1000 is in any way inferior to GMT900 and GMT800.

Are the similarities between GMC and Chevy that important to you? Why does that have to be negative? Would you have GM tool up to run two entirely different vehicles on the same assembly line? Are you not aware the similarities between the two is the way it has always been?
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12/17/2012 10:53 PM
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Our GM arm is doing it quite tough as well!

We started our GM manufacture in the 50's, the cars were originally virtually Chevys, but later we put our own touches to the cars, very much like the British Vauxhall & European Opel (but the locals who have never been out of the country like to think they are our original creations ;-)

How do you compete with Chinese & Indian workers who work for next to nothing? You can't!
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12/18/2012 04:28 AM
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Re: Tough times at GM
I'm pretty sure this thread is meant to slam GM loyalists, or to get the shit stirred about "Obama Motors," but I will let you have my perspective (car guy, and GM truck owner since 1991).

Differences between 2014 Silverado and Sierra:

1. Entire front fascia is different-not just grill and headlights. Silverado's bumper is flat, GMC's is not.

2. GMC has fender flares-Chevy does not.

GMT1000 is a modest redesign, no doubt. I challenge you to prove to me that GMT1000 is in any way inferior to GMT900 and GMT800.

Are the similarities between GMC and Chevy that important to you? Why does that have to be negative? Would you have GM tool up to run two entirely different vehicles on the same assembly line? Are you not aware the similarities between the two is the way it has always been?
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The front fascia consists of the headlights and grill. Get it? Oh gee, I forgot, the bumper too. Big wow. You're not really going to tout "fender flares" as an actual difference between models, are you? As for being inferior, I never liked the Silverado that debuted in '07. It looked cobbled together and reminded me of the 74-77 Camaros when GM just threw those huge ugly-ass bumpers on it to make it street legal.

The new trucks look better than I have seen them look in years. Not since the new trucks debuted in '88 (gmt400) have they looked this good. However, GM is obviously unable to put up the money to make two distinctly different trucks. That's what I'm implying. As for Obama Motors, yes GM is suffering. I do not expect that GM will make it past this decade. At some point between now and 2020, GM will be liquidated.
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12/18/2012 05:03 AM
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GM? You mean Government Motors?
The Bankrupt corporation being kept alive on tax payers money so barry can get the union votes?
The one that makes the Chevy Volt, of which each car costs the U.S. taxpayer $15,000 in subsidies for each car ?
That communist 5 year plan tractor factory that builds most of it's products outside of the USA?
Embarrassing for them to be thieves?
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12/19/2012 05:44 PM
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How tough are times at GM? Well the government is now selling it's stake in GM at a huge loss. Why? Probably because they know what's coming down the pike. In other words, the government knows that GM is going down and they want to cut their losses now rather than go down with the ship.

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12/20/2012 01:25 AM
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I wonder of GM fixed that slip yoke in the drive train yet.I'll keep my '08 Silverado that is one butt ugly truck. Looks like they brought back the Chevette. And that interior!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAH oh man . I went to the autoshow here recently and nothing that GM makes appeals to me .
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12/20/2012 02:10 AM
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Re: Tough times at GM
Our GM arm is doing it quite tough as well!

We started our GM manufacture in the 50's, the cars were originally virtually Chevys, but later we put our own touches to the cars, very much like the British Vauxhall & European Opel (but the locals who have never been out of the country like to think they are our original creations ;-)

How do you compete with Chinese & Indian workers who work for next to nothing? You can't!
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Things are not much better at the Blue Oval either, but at least they sometimes turn a profit.

The Ford Engineering Team are going gang busters, but not on Aussie projects. They do design work on all the Fords for China and India.
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12/21/2012 07:49 AM
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I wonder of GM fixed that slip yoke in the drive train yet.I'll keep my '08 Silverado that is one butt ugly truck. Looks like they brought back the Chevette. And that interior!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAH oh man . I went to the autoshow here recently and nothing that GM makes appeals to me .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29027587


I think the new Silverado/Sierra look really good. The bodystyle truck you own is ugly as fuck. I've never liked that ugly ass bumper and fascia on your truck. It looks like it was cobbled together from shit that they found laying around the shop.
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12/21/2012 07:52 AM
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Government Motors, of course all models will look alike.

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