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The NEWTOWN MASSACRE DISCREPANCY that can NOT be DENIED or EXPLAINED!!!

 
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Do you think in the chaos that went down there, it's possible it doesn't actually play out the way we all think it would? Couldn't they just have been overlooked?
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The people securing the school would've been quiet, probably. Or at least until they realized there were no more gunmen.
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Not at all. In an operation like that, it is anything but quiet. The sound of boots going through the halls of a school and confirmation of areas secure is not quiet.
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Not to mention the very distinct sound of police radios and such.
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Oh ffs.

Couldn't it just be that they're told to stay put until they're found?
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That is a good point...Except, if you had read the statement I provided in the first post, the police spokesperson, Lt. Vance stated that the police immediately entered the school upon arrival, and immediately secured the school building. He said the police searched every square inch.

The discrepancy here is MAJOR!

How would you feel if your child was a student, or you were an employee, and the police did not properly secure the school for 4 hours!

Inside that closet could have been:
1. A second shooter
2. An explosive device
3. A student, or multiple students, who were wounded and bleeding, and had expired after not receiving medical treatment for four hours....but would have had their lives saved if the police had done their job and properly secured the building.


This is a MAJOR discrepancy, and there is no answer.....yet.
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this is hardly a smoking gun. Sure they entered and searched the building immediately, however the cop did not say they immediately removed everyone. They entered to do a sweep for further threat. They would have come across the people hiding. They also wouldnt allow those hiding to leave their hiding spot until they were sure there was no further threat. Maybe they forgot to go back right away to tell people they could leave. Maybe the nurse was exaggerating a bit. who knows, but it is hardly proof of a conspiracy.
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Click the Good Morning America (GMA) yahoo news link, and watch the 3:00 minute video.

[link to gma.yahoo.com]

Beginning at approximately the 1:49 mark in the video, the school nurse distinctly and clearly states she was inside the school for four hours. She then says it was at least 1:15 p.m. when she was discovered by police, and escorted out of the school (told to shut her eyes, of course.)

But, what about the police saying they had checked every single square inch of the school, to make sure there were no other threats, immediately upon arriving at the scene?!?!

Have you seen the video of the first responders? There had to be at least 100 local police, state troopers, firemen, emergency responders (medical) and FBI....maybe more than 200! But, they missed two grown women, hiding in a closet? Why were these two women hiding for four hours? Did they not hear the voices of the dozens and dozens of authorities in there? The gunshots lasted mere minutes. Why would they remain inside the closet?
This is the newest discrepancy, in a long list of major discrepancies! But, this one could be THE item which can be used to convince others that there is something MAJORLY WRONG with the story the captured main stream media is telling.



HERE is the contradictory evidence:

[link to newtown.patch.com]

Around the middle of the article, you can find these few paragraphs of pertinent information, under the headline, "The Actions of One Gunman- 27 Lives Lost":

"This is an active ongoing investigation" Connecticut State Police Lt. Paul Vance said at an afternoon press conference Friday, updating the assembled media about the state of the investigation into the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

Vance confirmed the death toll: 20 children, 6 adults, including the shooter, and one adult victim at a "secondary scene" in Connecticut.

But in response to multiple questions from press, Vance said at one point: "There are a lot of things we cannot confirm."

He did offer the beginning of a basic timeline, saying the first call came in at around 9:30 a.m.

"Officers immediately entered the school to search for students, faculty and staff and remove them," he said. "They did search every nook and cranny...Those who were rescued were taken to a staging area."




Now, compare this quote given by the police spokesperson, with the statement given by the school nurse.

Either Police Lt. Vance is lying, or the authorities who searched "every nook and cranny" are inept. Or, the nurse is not telling the truth. These are the ONLY three options here. This is the most damning evidence yet.

And, this is my point: We must use the evidence that the mainstream media provides against the mainstream media. I will pursue answers in this case, using this as Evidence #1.
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that's it right there
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Police oficer doesn't give a time for how long they searched so it's hard to see how these are contradictory.
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The people securing the school would've been quiet, probably. Or at least until they realized there were no more gunmen.
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Why would it take them 4 hours to search that closet? Wouldn't that be part of securing the building?
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The reason there are verifiable inconsistencies with the story coming out of Sandy Hook is because they WANT us to see that this story is flawed. Unfortunately, only a small minority will pay attention to such things. They want this small minority to KNOW that this was a set-up, and more importantly, that there is NOTHING we can do about it. The psychic vampires behind this thrive on creating a feeling of anger and helplessness among the distinct minority who are not deceived by their illusory events...
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All these questions will be answered when they release the security footage of the lone gunman and the subsequent search of the school.

They bought a brand new security system for the school recently, I'd expect tons of HD color cameras at every vantage point.

I can see them trying to keep the video from the public in fear that it will give us all nightmares, but it will make its way into the public eye eventually right?
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All these questions will be answered when they release the security footage of the lone gunman and the subsequent search of the school.

They bought a brand new security system for the school recently, I'd expect tons of HD color cameras at every vantage point.

I can see them trying to keep the video from the public in fear that it will give us all nightmares, but it will make its way into the public eye eventually right?
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Yeah, just like all those video tapes of the plane hitting the Pentagon have now been released. /sarcasm
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The nurse initially stated that she looked the gunman in the eyes before ducking under her desk and that she had no idea why she was spared. After she was debriefed, her story was completely different. She claimed that she was under the desk before he came in her office and saw only the boots of the gunman. This is an obvious lie. This nurse saw the gunman, and she was convinced that she did not by a fed. The same thing happened in Oklahoma City. If people did not change their stories to the official one, they were murdered.
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I put this one on my website. [link to www.sandyhookhoax.com]
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From another thread...CRISIS ACTORS....check it out carefully:

[link to crisisactors.org]

And check out the videos they have listed on their site. They look like real events. But they must be examples of their work.

[link to crisisactors.org]

This is one of their videos:



Family and friends gather at Gateway High School in Aurora, Colo. in search of news about loved ones missing after a shooting a movie theater. Those with family members not listed as being at hospitals filed a missing persons report. (July 20, 2012)




ACTORS? Sure would seem so.
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[youtube] [link to www.youtube.com]

Trying again...
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Now, compare this quote given by the police spokesperson, with the statement given by the school nurse.

Either Police Lt. Vance is lying, or the authorities who searched "every nook and cranny" are inept. Or, the nurse is not telling the truth. These are the ONLY three options here.
 Quoting: The Sonic Dreamer


If this were are 'inside job', then many would have to be
'in' on it....

Like the school nurse....

I have met many over the years that I would trust as far as I could throw them...

If you are using any of the kids on the campus for illicit activities, you would need a nurse to be on the team.

read about a massacre in england I believe, possibly austrailia, where a pedophile shot up the school where he got his kids and was also killed...

end of evidence, end of witnesses

just listened to a lady relay what another lady saw/heard who was in a meeting at the start of the shooting...

she said 7 were present in her meeting for her second grader, the shooting started in the hall, three adults went out of the room, one came back....

worst case senario is to shoot the two and return to the room....were the two administrators figuring out there was a pedo ring being run out of the school?

that Robbie Parker is a real winner, isn't he?

The info about the past shooting in england or austrailia is on another thread here on glp....

I'll see if I can come across it...was older event, I think in the 90's
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Misinformation at start on purpose by official gatekeeper!
Fed misleading information to distract from the real story - PennStatesque!

Ethel and Lucy were the best of friends on here 1950's hit comedy series. Does anyone remember what Ethel/Viviane's maiden name was? This "actor" may be related to her?!!

Ne3ver mind - I figured it out!!!!
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BUMP!


Please view the first original post, and please explain how this is possible...it is not. someone is lying, the school nurse, or Lt. Vance. Or, Lt. Vance is basically saying all the first responders, every single one of them, is guilty of doing an absolutely HORRIBLE job of securing the school building.
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I just found this link and I must say I haven't seen it posted anywhere on this site.

[link to www.usatoday.com]

A reporter who allegedly ran into the school nurse shortly after the shooting. Not only does she tell the story of how she locked eyes with the gunman, but the reporter asks her if she knew the gunman's mother and she says - yes she was a wonderful experienced kindergarten teacher?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF


Here's the link to her 60 Minutes interview, which is a completely conflicting story, in case you haven't seen it yet

[link to www.cbsnews.com]
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poor parallel universe op.
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I put this one on my website. [link to www.sandyhookhoax.com]
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Add this one too. Its all the proof needed.

[link to crisisactors.org]
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All these questions will be answered when they release the security footage of the lone gunman and the subsequent search of the school.

They bought a brand new security system for the school recently, I'd expect tons of HD color cameras at every vantage point.

I can see them trying to keep the video from the public in fear that it will give us all nightmares, but it will make its way into the public eye eventually right?
 Quoting: GGoodwell


The ones from Columbine weren't withheld very long; they didn't show any gruesome close ups of anything but you can see the 2 shooters walking around with guns and people running.

I read recently that the school camera wasn't working that day but it was someone posting who said it with no link, so maybe they were just being sarcastic.
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When will you people stop looking for evidence to prove what you already know. This tragedy was done by democratic operatives who went to Adams house, killed his mother, smashed his hard drive to prevent others from seeing the communications that took place to set up this ordeal. The democratic operatives, who do not believe in the sanctity of life, treated this as just another live birth abortion even though the fetus was 6-8 years old.

The witnesses can attribute that the killers wore certain type of clothing, but none actually saw the face of Adam as the killer. These operatives went from classroom to classroom killing children and adults to serve the democratic agenda and their Messiah in the white house.

The immediate call for gun control is a shining example of their objectives. BHO is on vacation in Hawaii, not concerned about Connecticut any longer. You all need to understand that pure evil is in charge, and they have not good intentions.

WAKE UP AMERICA!!!
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BUMP.


Please reply to this thread after considering both pieces of evidence I present in the first post.

I would like you to offer your explanation as to what the school nurse, Ms. Cox states, compared to what the police spokesperson, Lt. Vance states, and how they present a discrepancy.
 Quoting: The Sonic Dreamer


The school nurse's body language throughout her interview is consistent. As she recounts the events she either looks directly at Stephanopolous (sp) are to her right upper or right lower. This is consistent with truth-telling body language, and she is consistent through stating she was in the closet ALMOST four hours and it was 1:15 (so three hours and 45 minutes into event, or 'almost four hours'.)

Conclusion: Nurse telling truth.
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No. The exact opposite is true. COMPLETELY IGNORE THIS FOOL. Body language, facial features, direction of eyes, lack of emotion, etc., indicate she is not telling the truth completely.
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When will you people stop looking for evidence to prove what you already know. This tragedy was done by democratic operatives who went to Adams house, killed his mother, smashed his hard drive to prevent others from seeing the communications that took place to set up this ordeal. The democratic operatives, who do not believe in the sanctity of life, treated this as just another live birth abortion even though the fetus was 6-8 years old.

The witnesses can attribute that the killers wore certain type of clothing, but none actually saw the face of Adam as the killer. These operatives went from classroom to classroom killing children and adults to serve the democratic agenda and their Messiah in the white house.

The immediate call for gun control is a shining example of their objectives. BHO is on vacation in Hawaii, not concerned about Connecticut any longer. You all need to understand that pure evil is in charge, and they have not good intentions.

WAKE UP AMERICA!!!
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Well said.
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What's up with the "close your eyes on the way out of the school" angle??
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I have also wondered this. Logic says it is so you will not be traumatized by seeing children who have been killed, but the lack of facts/details makes you wonder if there is more to it.
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What's up with the "close your eyes on the way out of the school" angle??
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Yes, odd for them to tell a nurse to do that, of all people.
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Bump. You need to compare these two discrepancies, and consider.

And, use this information to help your friends, families, neighbors, co-workers, etc. to WAKE UP and QUESTION the story we are being told by the media!!!
 Quoting: The Sonic Dreamer


Federal offense now to question the "official story".

...but thanks anyway!
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Bump. You need to compare these two discrepancies, and consider.

And, use this information to help your friends, families, neighbors, co-workers, etc. to WAKE UP and QUESTION the story we are being told by the media!!!
 Quoting: The Sonic Dreamer


Federal offense now to question the "official story".

...but thanks anyway!
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Federal offense now to reply to any questions of the "official story".

...but thanks anyway!
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When will you people stop looking for evidence to prove what you already know. This tragedy was done by democratic operatives who went to Adams house, killed his mother, smashed his hard drive to prevent others from seeing the communications that took place to set up this ordeal. The democratic operatives, who do not believe in the sanctity of life, treated this as just another live birth abortion even though the fetus was 6-8 years old.

The witnesses can attribute that the killers wore certain type of clothing, but none actually saw the face of Adam as the killer. These operatives went from classroom to classroom killing children and adults to serve the democratic agenda and their Messiah in the white house.

The immediate call for gun control is a shining example of their objectives. BHO is on vacation in Hawaii, not concerned about Connecticut any longer. You all need to understand that pure evil is in charge, and they have not good intentions.

WAKE UP AMERICA!!!
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This ^^^
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