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I Wish I Had A Gun

 
Chris12138

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12/18/2012 12:08 AM

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If you ever find yourself stateside you can shoot mine/ Sorry you can't own any. I don't advocate your "cut out the middle man and get justice on your own" comment though. Rule of law is important lol.

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12/18/2012 12:54 AM
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I rang the Australian firearms branch today and they said they are still processing applications from august last year!

Guess people are starting to feel somethings on the way :/
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Funny, but I used to take applications for firearm licences. Their is always a backlog. It's not a case of applying and you're free to go.

I think you're over reacting.
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okay, just thought that was quite a lengthy amount of time for a small background check.
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12/18/2012 12:55 AM
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OP if you feel that you need home protection,get a compound bow. Their is a huge psychological affect on an attacker as they look at two feet of arrow sticking out of their chest.
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12/18/2012 01:13 AM
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I'm with you OP. I'm a very placid person and have never had a physical fight as as adult. Even as a child I never had a serious fight. I wouldn't even shoot an animal unless I was going to eat it.

I want a pistol or revolver to keep in my home to protect my wife and two daughters, as well as myself. Back in '99 whilst doing a security course I learned the law regarding such a thing. In NSW at least the fist step is to obtain a license for the type of firearm you wish to own. You need to have a valid reason . Target shooting is one valid reason, for which you have to join a gun club. You had to have a minimum spec safe to keep it in. I don't know the law in NSW now, but you can get info from the NSW Police website. If I have to store the gun at the club, I won't buy one. I'm going to have another look at what hoops I have to jump through to get a goon...
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12/18/2012 01:18 AM
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I'm with you OP. I'm a very placid person and have never had a physical fight as as adult. Even as a child I never had a serious fight. I wouldn't even shoot an animal unless I was going to eat it.

I want a pistol or revolver to keep in my home to protect my wife and two daughters, as well as myself. Back in '99 whilst doing a security course I learned the law regarding such a thing. In NSW at least the fist step is to obtain a license for the type of firearm you wish to own. You need to have a valid reason . Target shooting is one valid reason, for which you have to join a gun club. You had to have a minimum spec safe to keep it in. I don't know the law in NSW now, but you can get info from the NSW Police website. If I have to store the gun at the club, I won't buy one. I'm going to have another look at what hoops I have to jump through to get a goon...
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damn bureaucracy is insane over there
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12/18/2012 01:28 AM
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A while back I thought my life was in danger and carried an old pistol around with me everywhere I went for a time. When the crisis had passed I came to find out it wouldn't even fire. When I saw how I had been placing trust in it to save my life I saw how fruitless an exercise it really was, and I've had guns all my life so please don't mistake me for being anti-gun.

If you pull a gun on someone you better be ready to shoot them or they'll probably take it away from you, and you'd better give it considerable thought before you put yourself in that situation. There's a lot of blood and screaming involved, if you don't kill them. Lots of blood and a dead body if you do. Then you have to deal with the cops and all the legal issues, not to mention having that on your head for the rest of your life.

Of course if it's a matter of life and death you've got to do what needs to be done. Just don't take it lightly, it's not like you see on TV where you turn the TV off and it's over.
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I'm with you OP. I'm a very placid person and have never had a physical fight as as adult. Even as a child I never had a serious fight. I wouldn't even shoot an animal unless I was going to eat it.

I want a pistol or revolver to keep in my home to protect my wife and two daughters, as well as myself. Back in '99 whilst doing a security course I learned the law regarding such a thing. In NSW at least the fist step is to obtain a license for the type of firearm you wish to own. You need to have a valid reason . Target shooting is one valid reason, for which you have to join a gun club. You had to have a minimum spec safe to keep it in. I don't know the law in NSW now, but you can get info from the NSW Police website. If I have to store the gun at the club, I won't buy one. I'm going to have another look at what hoops I have to jump through to get a goon...
 Quoting: kangablue


damn bureaucracy is insane over there
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27346147


It is, it's fucked. Anything that is fun and perhaps dangerous is either banned or very difficult to get hold of. In my state (NSW):

*No fireworks for mum and pop - illegal!
*Guns VERY hard to obtain for the average person
*Crossbows - illegal
*Swords - not sure, but I have one so don't care :-P Its blade is not sharpened though, just the point.
*Cigarettes and other tobacco products now come in plain packaging and cost a fortune, as does certain types of alcohol.

The list goes on and on - fucking nanny state here I tell ya!

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12/18/2012 01:33 AM
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A while back I thought my life was in danger and carried an old pistol around with me everywhere I went for a time. When the crisis had passed I came to find out it wouldn't even fire. When I saw how I had been placing trust in it to save my life I saw how fruitless an exercise it really was, and I've had guns all my life so please don't mistake me for being anti-gun.

If you pull a gun on someone you better be ready to shoot them or they'll probably take it away from you, and you'd better give it considerable thought before you put yourself in that situation. There's a lot of blood and screaming involved, if you don't kill them. Lots of blood and a dead body if you do. Then you have to deal with the cops and all the legal issues, not to mention having that on your head for the rest of your life.

Of course if it's a matter of life and death you've got to do what needs to be done. Just don't take it lightly, it's not like you see on TV where you turn the TV off and it's over.
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Excellent post and very valid points. If CCW was legal here I'd never draw unless I was sure I HAD to take someone down. Gun maintenance is important :-P
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12/18/2012 01:54 AM
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it is my dream to have one!

sadly i am slave living in a slave country..i am never getting one
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12/18/2012 02:03 AM
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I never touched a gun before. I wonder how does it feel like?
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Guaranteed to put a grin on your face.. not even being sarcastic.
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I'm with you OP. I'm a very placid person and have never had a physical fight as as adult. Even as a child I never had a serious fight. I wouldn't even shoot an animal unless I was going to eat it.

I want a pistol or revolver to keep in my home to protect my wife and two daughters, as well as myself. Back in '99 whilst doing a security course I learned the law regarding such a thing. In NSW at least the fist step is to obtain a license for the type of firearm you wish to own. You need to have a valid reason . Target shooting is one valid reason, for which you have to join a gun club. You had to have a minimum spec safe to keep it in. I don't know the law in NSW now, but you can get info from the NSW Police website. If I have to store the gun at the club, I won't buy one. I'm going to have another look at what hoops I have to jump through to get a goon...
 Quoting: kangablue


You sound like the majority of firearm owners here in the states. - I've never hurt anyone and don't plan to but if I was ever in a life or death situation, I would want to have a fighting chance and besides that - blowing melons and water jugs to a fine mist is better than sex.
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12/18/2012 02:09 AM
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Keep up with the 3rd printer technologies. I don't think it's going to be long before you'll be able to print off and assemble gun parts into a working firearm. Governments will not be able to control it no matter how hard they try. Keep a close eye out, 3d printing is going to drastically alter the relationship between government and slave.
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12/18/2012 02:14 AM
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12/18/2012 02:29 AM
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Thread: Gun control.... Or even better restriction
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12/18/2012 02:32 AM
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I never touched a gun before. I wonder how does it feel like?
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Guaranteed to put a grin on your face.. not even being sarcastic.
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Aunty Flo

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12/18/2012 02:35 AM

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I rang the Australian firearms branch today and they said they are still processing applications from august last year!

Guess people are starting to feel somethings on the way :/
 Quoting: sssss


Funny, but I used to take applications for firearm licences. Their is always a backlog. It's not a case of applying and you're free to go.

I think you're over reacting.
 Quoting: Aunty Flo


okay, just thought that was quite a lengthy amount of time for a small background check.
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It's not a case of a small background check. It is a bit more involved.
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OP if you feel that you need home protection,get a compound bow. Their is a huge psychological affect on an attacker as they look at two feet of arrow sticking out of their chest.
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I'm sure that will fuck their shit up real bad. Lol

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12/18/2012 02:38 AM
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So do i, dude, so do i....

It would be quite easy to get one, illegally, and i would if i felt like i really needed one, but i don't feel like i do, at this point. After being in the ADF and getting the chance to play around with military grade firearms, it's quite the experience which you don't forget.

Bet this comment will set off a few alarms at CSOC, but i don't give a fuck
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12/18/2012 02:42 AM
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I think that everyone on this planet should be given a gun for protection.

Why did Australia ban guns in the first place?

Why is it even a crime to posses a gun in some countries?

More good than harm would come from arming the entire planet.

At least if our countries ever got invaded we would have a leg to stand on!

It is a hell of a lot easier to kill the bad guys with a gun than using your body or other weapons such as knives, metal bars, baseball bats, fire etc.

And it would give law enforcement agencies a far less workload if we had the power to cut out the middle man and seek justice ourselves.
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australia didn't ban guns.

you're just too stupid to figure out how to get one.


:lolaut:
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I'm with you OP. I'm a very placid person and have never had a physical fight as as adult. Even as a child I never had a serious fight. I wouldn't even shoot an animal unless I was going to eat it.

I want a pistol or revolver to keep in my home to protect my wife and two daughters, as well as myself. Back in '99 whilst doing a security course I learned the law regarding such a thing. In NSW at least the fist step is to obtain a license for the type of firearm you wish to own. You need to have a valid reason . Target shooting is one valid reason, for which you have to join a gun club. You had to have a minimum spec safe to keep it in. I don't know the law in NSW now, but you can get info from the NSW Police website. If I have to store the gun at the club, I won't buy one. I'm going to have another look at what hoops I have to jump through to get a goon...
 Quoting: kangablue


Not sure if it varies much between your state and mine, but im pretty sure u can keep a hand gun at home as long as the gun is stored in a safe, bolted to the wall. And your ammo is stored in another safe also bolted to a wall in a separate room. No one in your family is aloud to know how to access the safes and police will check you meet these requirements at random intervals.

A friend of mine had ammo stored in the same safe after being lazy and got him self a $6000 dollar fine.

They threatened to take his license away but he lived on a farm so avoided that.
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12/18/2012 02:48 AM
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Gee, what a FLAWLESS plan! Can't wait to see criminal COONS with an IQ under 70 running around with guns, great idea, fool!
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12/18/2012 02:48 AM
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Thanks for the pin. wink
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lolatu
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12/18/2012 03:15 AM
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Go to your hardware store & make one it is easy. Then go to your drug store & make gun powder. It is easy too.

That or

Build a high powerd spring loaded knife thrower. They can hit with enough force to go through a Joey.

Last, modify a nail gun & build a two air tank back pack.
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...and a spud gun, only instead of solanaceous projectiles, he could experiement with something a tad more incendiary...maybe some homemade napalm.....
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12/18/2012 03:16 AM
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Why did Australia ban guns in the first place?
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We had our Martin Bryant shooting spree where some of the dead included little children. That gives TPTB all the traction they need to get a good banning going and everyone accepts it in their emotionally-dazed state.

You've got your Martin Bryant shooting now. It's not looking good for you, is it?
kangablue

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I'm with you OP. I'm a very placid person and have never had a physical fight as as adult. Even as a child I never had a serious fight. I wouldn't even shoot an animal unless I was going to eat it.

I want a pistol or revolver to keep in my home to protect my wife and two daughters, as well as myself. Back in '99 whilst doing a security course I learned the law regarding such a thing. In NSW at least the fist step is to obtain a license for the type of firearm you wish to own. You need to have a valid reason . Target shooting is one valid reason, for which you have to join a gun club. You had to have a minimum spec safe to keep it in. I don't know the law in NSW now, but you can get info from the NSW Police website. If I have to store the gun at the club, I won't buy one. I'm going to have another look at what hoops I have to jump through to get a goon...
 Quoting: kangablue


Not sure if it varies much between your state and mine, but im pretty sure u can keep a hand gun at home as long as the gun is stored in a safe, bolted to the wall. And your ammo is stored in another safe also bolted to a wall in a separate room. No one in your family is aloud to know how to access the safes and police will check you meet these requirements at random intervals.

A friend of mine had ammo stored in the same safe after being lazy and got him self a $6000 dollar fine.

They threatened to take his license away but he lived on a farm so avoided that.
 Quoting: sssss


That all sounds like what I remember, so the law must be the same same or very similar today. I believe it's the same here regarding the two safes and random police inspections, fines etc. If you follow the rules to the letter, owning a gun and keeping it at home makes it practically useless for protecting home and family in most cases. Can you imagine a home invasion occurring when you're in bed. It may not be possible to get to the safes, let alone open them and load the gun etc.
Aunty Flo

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Why did Australia ban guns in the first place?
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We had our Martin Bryant shooting spree where some of the dead included little children. That gives TPTB all the traction they need to get a good banning going and everyone accepts it in their emotionally-dazed state.

You've got your Martin Bryant shooting now. It's not looking good for you, is it?
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Seriously dude, would you rather live in a country like Australia, where the cops are sane, or America?
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12/18/2012 07:39 AM
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It's not really that difficult to get a firearms licence, over here, you join a club (or live on a rural zoned parcel of land), do the safety course and submit your application. Handguns (H class licence) have the added requirement (in most states in Australia) of being a member of a club for a minimum of six months, (basically a realistic need for a handgun) most clubs won't certify this for you unless you you attend a pre-requisit number of shoots. Ammo can generally be stored in the same safe as the firearms provided they have a separate locking compartment. The only reason you'd get knocked back is if the club refused to certify your membership, you have a criminal record or mental health issues.

To be honest, I have no issues with these types of restrictions, there are definatly people out there who I wouldn't want to see armed with a gun.

Kanga, as someone who does in fact own firearms, not specifically for self defence, can I ask what sort of area are you living in that you feel you need a gun to defend your family? Please don't take this negatively I'm just trying to get my head around your mind set on this, but have you had much experience with firearms?
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I'm with you OP. I'm a very placid person and have never had a physical fight as as adult. Even as a child I never had a serious fight. I wouldn't even shoot an animal unless I was going to eat it.

I want a pistol or revolver to keep in my home to protect my wife and two daughters, as well as myself. Back in '99 whilst doing a security course I learned the law regarding such a thing. In NSW at least the fist step is to obtain a license for the type of firearm you wish to own. You need to have a valid reason . Target shooting is one valid reason, for which you have to join a gun club. You had to have a minimum spec safe to keep it in. I don't know the law in NSW now, but you can get info from the NSW Police website. If I have to store the gun at the club, I won't buy one. I'm going to have another look at what hoops I have to jump through to get a goon...
 Quoting: kangablue


Not sure if it varies much between your state and mine, but im pretty sure u can keep a hand gun at home as long as the gun is stored in a safe, bolted to the wall. And your ammo is stored in another safe also bolted to a wall in a separate room. No one in your family is aloud to know how to access the safes and police will check you meet these requirements at random intervals.

A friend of mine had ammo stored in the same safe after being lazy and got him self a $6000 dollar fine.

They threatened to take his license away but he lived on a farm so avoided that.
 Quoting: sssss


That all sounds like what I remember, so the law must be the same same or very similar today. I believe it's the same here regarding the two safes and random police inspections, fines etc. If you follow the rules to the letter, owning a gun and keeping it at home makes it practically useless for protecting home and family in most cases. Can you imagine a home invasion occurring when you're in bed. It may not be possible to get to the safes, let alone open them and load the gun etc.
 Quoting: kangablue


Thats the point, if your where to use the gun to defend yourself, they know you wouldn't have time to round up the keys, gun and ammo, so in turn you would be charged for a pre-emptive assault/murder and spend the rest of your life locked up. All for defending your own home/family, which we should have the RIGHT to do.
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