Curious, do CHRISTIANS have a CONTRACT with God and if so what is it? | |
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ro User ID: 29671750 United States 12/18/2012 01:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First off I feel like this is , but I'll bite... I think this Bible verse answers your question well: Ephesians 2:8-10 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God-- not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do. Ephesians 2:8-10 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God-- not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do. |
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ro User ID: 29671750 United States 12/18/2012 01:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes. It is called the "New Testament:. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29907008 If you want to know the terms, you can find it in all good libraries. Ephesians 2:8-10 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God-- not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do. |
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pi User ID: 20063747 Canada 12/18/2012 01:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh what the hell, I'll bite too. A Christian has a "contract" with God only within their own minds. God is not angry, vengeful or petty like in the old testament. God wants us to succeed; any religion that claims a breachable "contract" is some kind of scam. God judges by the Heart, not by made up rules. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30201350 United States 12/18/2012 01:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is something you might find interesting ______________________________________________ Are you the beast, are you sleeping with the beast? ARE YOU THE FUTURE ANTICHRIST or the big 666, or are you just a normal boring teenager. COME SEE IF YOUR NAME CALCULATES 666 The keywords for google are: "ANTICHRIST CALCULATOR" This is the best way to help you remember how to find it without a link. [link to www.google.com] |
TidesofTruth User ID: 1838356 United States 12/18/2012 01:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Old Testament was a marriage contract between God and Israel but He wrote her a bill of Divorcement for her Adulteries. Then He set up a marriage contract with the gentiles in order to make the Hebrew jealous. e will shortly renew her (Israel) back to His Wife. Of course these terms of marriage and wife/husband are physical representations, a picture, of the relationship and not exactly the same as we know marriage to be. Just one of many pictures to get our understanding of Who God is and what it all means. Every earthly relationship was given to us so we could better understand spiritual relationships. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 945308 New Zealand 12/18/2012 01:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh what the hell, I'll bite too. Quoting: pi 20063747 A Christian has a "contract" with God only within their own minds. God is not angry, vengeful or petty like in the old testament. God wants us to succeed; any religion that claims a breachable "contract" is some kind of scam. God judges by the Heart, not by made up rules. I see so if you believe, that is good enough, that is all there is to it? . |
ro User ID: 29671750 United States 12/18/2012 01:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes. It is called the "New Testament:. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29907008 If you want to know the terms, you can find it in all good libraries. Why are you clapping, isn't the contract in the Old Testament? . The whole Bible, but the New Testament is where our Savior dies so that we may have eternal life. I think you will find all the answers to your questions in the Bible. You can do a google search for Bible verses relating to God's covenent with His people and will find a lot of amazing things are promised for us!! Ephesians 2:8-10 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God-- not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do. |
pi User ID: 20063747 Canada 12/18/2012 02:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh what the hell, I'll bite too. Quoting: pi 20063747 A Christian has a "contract" with God only within their own minds. God is not angry, vengeful or petty like in the old testament. God wants us to succeed; any religion that claims a breachable "contract" is some kind of scam. God judges by the Heart, not by made up rules. I see so if you believe, that is good enough, that is all there is to it? . I am not strictly a Christian, however Christ of Nazareth left a clear set of messages on how we ought to treat each other. Really most of those aren't too far off from how we normally treat each other. And remember, the central message of Christianity is that there was once a man so righteous, so caring for others that he allowed himself to be crucified for his beliefs. The actions of Christ exonerated man from sin in the eyes of God. Whatever you do in your life is your business: it is up to you to be as Christ was, no God is going to punish you for mistakes, nor for evil, for that is its own punishment soon enough. Christ was merely an archetype of mercy, love, intelligence, and justice: a true hero to aspire to. |
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Semper Fi User ID: 6875630 United States 12/18/2012 02:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's an experience to have a relationship with the Creator. To be able to trust him enough to call him dad. People listen but don't hear. They see but they are still blind. The Creator sent his son to break the curse of original sin which came into the picture when Adam and Eve sinned. After Jesus Christ Ascended he sent the Holy Spirit. So whoever accepts what Jesus Christ did for them will recieve his spirit. Which makes heirs of the kingdom of God. He is bringing you into the God head Father, Son , Holy Spirit. and the little ones which are those that are filled with his spirit. It is a family unit. It's a supernatural encounter, spiritual experience. He is your dad and Heaven and God's kingdom is where all his image belong. But they refuse God, and his son who died for you to recieve the gift of salvation. Time is very short. If there is an ascention it will be for those that are spirit filled. Taking there own cross following Jesus. When I say taking there own cross I mean walking on the narrow path. And denying the pleasures of the sinful nature (the flesh). And it's deffinately a struggle but at the end it is worth it. Remember you are an image of the Creator. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 945308 New Zealand 12/18/2012 02:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well this is all very interesting because I have found a very definite contract in the bible and it is not in any of the above or in this [link to en.wikipedia.org] . |
pi User ID: 20063747 Canada 12/18/2012 02:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well this is all very interesting because I have found a very definite contract in the bible and it is not in any of the above or in this Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308 [link to en.wikipedia.org] . Easy now. All religions must be considered from a secularist or pantheist point of view otherwise one will be lost in doctrine. Let me put it this way. If one understands the meaning of Christ's teachings, one is predisposed to any "contracts". If one pledges to a "contract" before understanding Christ, then one only grasps the doctrines, thus one becomes a bigot. Again: no contracts, or it is some kind of scam. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 945308 New Zealand 12/18/2012 02:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well this is all very interesting because I have found a very definite contract in the bible and it is not in any of the above or in this Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308 [link to en.wikipedia.org] . Easy now. All religions must be considered from a secularist or pantheist point of view otherwise one will be lost in doctrine. Let me put it this way. If one understands the meaning of Christ's teachings, one is predisposed to any "contracts". If one pledges to a "contract" before understanding Christ, then one only grasps the doctrines, thus one becomes a bigot. Again: no contracts, or it is some kind of scam. I don't want to burst anybodies bubble but you don't get anything for free and you surely don't when it comes to God. . |
pi User ID: 20063747 Canada 12/18/2012 02:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well this is all very interesting because I have found a very definite contract in the bible and it is not in any of the above or in this Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308 [link to en.wikipedia.org] . Easy now. All religions must be considered from a secularist or pantheist point of view otherwise one will be lost in doctrine. Let me put it this way. If one understands the meaning of Christ's teachings, one is predisposed to any "contracts". If one pledges to a "contract" before understanding Christ, then one only grasps the doctrines, thus one becomes a bigot. Again: no contracts, or it is some kind of scam. I don't want to burst anybodies bubble but you don't get anything for free and you surely don't when it comes to God. . I'm not disagreeing, however, why do you say that? Truly understanding the word of Christ is no small undertaking in and of itself. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 945308 New Zealand 12/18/2012 02:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not disagreeing, however, why do you say that? Quoting: pi 20063747 Truly understanding the word of Christ is no small undertaking in and of itself. I've made a point of studying the bible, and not from your usual perspective. Anyway, let's just say I found some very interesting stuff and what most people think the bible says and what it really says, are two different things. I just started this thread to test the waters, to see if others have spotted it. . |
pi User ID: 20063747 Canada 12/18/2012 02:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not disagreeing, however, why do you say that? Quoting: pi 20063747 Truly understanding the word of Christ is no small undertaking in and of itself. I've made a point of studying the bible, and not from your usual perspective. Anyway, let's just say I found some very interesting stuff and what most people think the bible says and what it really says, are two different things. I just started this thread to test the waters, to see if others have spotted it. . Hmm, well if you're willing to share I'd love to see what you have found. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28130893 Guam 12/18/2012 02:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not disagreeing, however, why do you say that? Quoting: pi 20063747 Truly understanding the word of Christ is no small undertaking in and of itself. I've made a point of studying the bible, and not from your usual perspective. Anyway, let's just say I found some very interesting stuff and what most people think the bible says and what it really says, are two different things. I just started this thread to test the waters, to see if others have spotted it. . OP, see how well this floats yer boat? Oath and Covenant of the Priesthood See also Covenant; Oath; Priesthood. An oath is a sworn affirmation to be true and faithful to one’s promises. A covenant is a solemn promise between two parties. The Aaronic Priesthood is received by covenant alone. Melchizedek Priesthood holders receive the priesthood by unspoken oath as well as by covenant. As priesthood holders are faithful and magnify their callings as God directs, he blesses them. Those who are faithful to the end and do all he asks of them will receive all that the Father has. The Lord covenanted with Abraham, and Abraham obeyed, Gen. 15:18, Gen. 17:1, Gen. 22:16–18 Priests during Ezekiel’s time fed not the flock, Ezek. 34:2–3 Priests during Malachi’s time corrupted the covenant, Mal. 1–2 - [link to www.lds.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28130893 Guam 12/18/2012 02:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not disagreeing, however, why do you say that? Quoting: pi 20063747 Truly understanding the word of Christ is no small undertaking in and of itself. I've made a point of studying the bible, and not from your usual perspective. Anyway, let's just say I found some very interesting stuff and what most people think the bible says and what it really says, are two different things. I just started this thread to test the waters, to see if others have spotted it. . OP, see how well this floats yer boat? Oath and Covenant of the Priesthood See also Covenant; Oath; Priesthood. An oath is a sworn affirmation to be true and faithful to one’s promises. A covenant is a solemn promise between two parties. The Aaronic Priesthood is received by covenant alone. Melchizedek Priesthood holders receive the priesthood by unspoken oath as well as by covenant. As priesthood holders are faithful and magnify their callings as God directs, he blesses them. Those who are faithful to the end and do all he asks of them will receive all that the Father has. The Lord covenanted with Abraham, and Abraham obeyed, Gen. 15:18, Gen. 17:1, Gen. 22:16–18 Priests during Ezekiel’s time fed not the flock, Ezek. 34:2–3 Priests during Malachi’s time corrupted the covenant, Mal. 1–2 - [link to www.lds.org] |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 945308 New Zealand 12/18/2012 03:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not disagreeing, however, why do you say that? Quoting: pi 20063747 Truly understanding the word of Christ is no small undertaking in and of itself. I've made a point of studying the bible, and not from your usual perspective. Anyway, let's just say I found some very interesting stuff and what most people think the bible says and what it really says, are two different things. I just started this thread to test the waters, to see if others have spotted it. . OP, see how well this floats yer boat? Oath and Covenant of the Priesthood See also Covenant; Oath; Priesthood. An oath is a sworn affirmation to be true and faithful to one’s promises. A covenant is a solemn promise between two parties. The Aaronic Priesthood is received by covenant alone. Melchizedek Priesthood holders receive the priesthood by unspoken oath as well as by covenant. As priesthood holders are faithful and magnify their callings as God directs, he blesses them. Those who are faithful to the end and do all he asks of them will receive all that the Father has. The Lord covenanted with Abraham, and Abraham obeyed, Gen. 15:18, Gen. 17:1, Gen. 22:16–18 Priests during Ezekiel’s time fed not the flock, Ezek. 34:2–3 Priests during Malachi’s time corrupted the covenant, Mal. 1–2 - [link to www.lds.org] I'll check them out. . |
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