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How many of you hear God like this?

 
Anonymous Coward
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12/18/2012 04:02 AM
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How many of you hear God like this?
Watch 1:35:00 to 1:42:00



God tells a man in Minnesota in 1975 in the middle of the night to get up and go to Vietnam. He does. When he gets there, God leads him to 70 women and children that he is to help make it out of the country before Saigon falls...

So...How many of you would get up in the middle of the night and do this? How well are you hearing God? Are you following the leading of his spirit?
icepack

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12/18/2012 04:17 AM
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Re: How many of you hear God like this?
what if god demands something evil from you ?
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12/18/2012 04:27 AM
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Re: How many of you hear God like this?
what if god demands something evil from you ?
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If it's evil, then it isn't the voice of God is it? Evil comes from that other guy with the horns and pointy tail
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12/18/2012 04:29 AM
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Re: How many of you hear God like this?
what if god demands something evil from you ?
 Quoting: icepack


If it's evil, then it isn't the voice of God is it? Evil comes from that other guy with the horns and pointy tail
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i think, you are wrong.

Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these [things].
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12/18/2012 04:37 AM
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Re: How many of you hear God like this?
what if god demands something evil from you ?
 Quoting: icepack


If it's evil, then it isn't the voice of God is it? Evil comes from that other guy with the horns and pointy tail
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14093935

i think, you are wrong.

Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these [things].
 Quoting: icepack


The lord giveth and the lord taketh away. God can send blessings upon the faithful or curses and judgement upon the wicked...that's his right, he his God, and he is a Just. But you and I are humans...we are not The almighty. God commands us to do Good not evil. The devil tries to trick humans into doing evil but that is not the voice of God.
Milo Jeeder
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12/18/2012 04:38 AM
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Re: How many of you hear God like this?
I hear them both all the time. It can drive you quite insane the bickering between the two all the time. So I wear headphones and listen to music a lot. I have enough issues of my own without constantly sorting out God and Satan's problems.
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12/18/2012 04:45 AM
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Re: How many of you hear God like this?
imo, this is unmistakable.

"I make peace, and create evil"

god creates evil, too. almighty.
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12/18/2012 04:47 AM
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I hear them both all the time. It can drive you quite insane the bickering between the two all the time. So I wear headphones and listen to music a lot. I have enough issues of my own without constantly sorting out God and Satan's problems.
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same here. but, i think, it is only one deciding power, the rest is decoration.
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12/18/2012 04:50 AM
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Re: How many of you hear God like this?
imo, this is unmistakable.

"I make peace, and create evil"

god creates evil, too. almighty.
 Quoting: icepack


Did you not read what I said?

God Has the right to send both peace or destruction...he is God. Man Does not.

When god creates Evil...he sends it as a form of Judgement on the wicked, such as when he destroyed Sodom and Gommorah. But he commands us to obey his commandments and to do good. Therefore God will not tell you to do something Evil.
icepack

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12/18/2012 05:11 AM
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Re: How many of you hear God like this?
aren't the "wicked" created, too ?
god created everything, the darkness and the evil.

god is the directing force, which decides, who becomes good or evil.
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12/18/2012 05:14 AM

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The Kingdom of God is within You hf
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Re: How many of you hear God like this?
aren't the "wicked" created, too ?
god created everything, the darkness and the evil.

god is the directing force, which decides, who becomes good or evil.
 Quoting: icepack


God created free will. He declares what is good and what is evil. Therefore, if you do what is evil, then you are judged by God to be wicked according to your choice you made.

What you are suggesting is that God is responsible for your choice...but he gave you free will.

God deemed and declared those that willfully chose to disobey his law are wicked and evil. He directed man to do good, not evil, but man used his free will to rebel. Therefore God declared them to be wicked in thier sin, but the obedient he declares as righteous.
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"What you are suggesting is that God is responsible for your choice...but he gave you free will."

the will is also created. if you eat bad meat as a child and you get sick, then later on in life, this child "decides" he/she doesn't like meat so much.
the truth is, it is no coincidence, that the child ate the bad meat, it's fate. this is like forming your character, likes, dislikes.
you think you decide with your free will, but you are prepared and conditioned.
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Re: How many of you hear God like this?
"What you are suggesting is that God is responsible for your choice...but he gave you free will."

the will is also created. if you eat bad meat as a child and you get sick, then later on in life, this child "decides" he/she doesn't like meat so much.
the truth is, it is no coincidence, that the child ate the bad meat, it's fate. this is like forming your character, likes, dislikes.
you think you decide with your free will, but you are prepared and conditioned.
 Quoting: icepack


If you didn't have free will, then you would be a slave to your likes and dislikes. You wouldn't be able to control your impulses on anything, but we know this is not true. You can use your free will to deny your evil impulses, thats why you are a man and not a dumb animal. If you didn't have power of the will to control your self then society would break down completely, therefore we know that the power of the will is greater than the base impulse.
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Re: How many of you hear God like this?
what if god demands something evil from you ?
 Quoting: icepack


If it's evil, then it isn't the voice of God is it? Evil comes from that other guy with the horns and pointy tail
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14093935


No, god is very evil. just look at the world he created. if god was a human he would be sent to jail for 6 billion years
..why don't you take a seat over there
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Re: How many of you hear God like this?
"What you are suggesting is that God is responsible for your choice...but he gave you free will."

the will is also created. if you eat bad meat as a child and you get sick, then later on in life, this child "decides" he/she doesn't like meat so much.
the truth is, it is no coincidence, that the child ate the bad meat, it's fate. this is like forming your character, likes, dislikes.
you think you decide with your free will, but you are prepared and conditioned.
 Quoting: icepack


If you didn't have free will, then you would be a slave to your likes and dislikes. You wouldn't be able to control your impulses on anything, but we know this is not true. You can use your free will to deny your evil impulses, thats why you are a man and not a dumb animal. If you didn't have power of the will to control your self then society would break down completely, therefore we know that the power of the will is greater than the base impulse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14093935


do you think, for example car accidents have to do with free will ? do you think accidents only happen to wicked people as a punishment of god ?
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Re: How many of you hear God like this?
what if god demands something evil from you ?
 Quoting: icepack


If it's evil, then it isn't the voice of God is it? Evil comes from that other guy with the horns and pointy tail
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14093935


No, god is very evil. just look at the world he created. if god was a human he would be sent to jail for 6 billion years
 Quoting: Chris Hansen


Sent to jail by whom? Who is greater than God to judge him? There is none.

As far as the evils in this world...yes evils exist, but they are not God's fault. They are rebellious man's fault.

The world has both good and evil in it. Why do you blame god for the evil, yet not praise him for the good?

Evil exists, but the "fault" for evil is man's not gods because God told man to do good. If your blame god then you are claiming that man does not have free will or responsibility...yet man DOES have free will or else he could not have the power to make a choice. Yet we do make choices all the time...therefore man, not God, is responsible if we choose wrongly.
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12/18/2012 05:57 AM
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Re: How many of you hear God like this?
"What you are suggesting is that God is responsible for your choice...but he gave you free will."

the will is also created. if you eat bad meat as a child and you get sick, then later on in life, this child "decides" he/she doesn't like meat so much.
the truth is, it is no coincidence, that the child ate the bad meat, it's fate. this is like forming your character, likes, dislikes.
you think you decide with your free will, but you are prepared and conditioned.
 Quoting: icepack


If you didn't have free will, then you would be a slave to your likes and dislikes. You wouldn't be able to control your impulses on anything, but we know this is not true. You can use your free will to deny your evil impulses, thats why you are a man and not a dumb animal. If you didn't have power of the will to control your self then society would break down completely, therefore we know that the power of the will is greater than the base impulse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14093935


do you think, for example car accidents have to do with free will ? do you think accidents only happen to wicked people as a punishment of god ?
 Quoting: icepack


Man inherited original sin, therefore all man will die in the flesh. It is God's right to determine when and where. God both has the right to give life and to take life as God. Everyone has an appointed time by God to leave this world, but what is far more important is where you will spend eternity, therefore obey God while you have the gift of life in this world.
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12/18/2012 06:09 AM
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Re: How many of you hear God like this?
so, who gets a good life is lucky and the ones with a bad life are unlucky ?
the real justice starts only in the afterlife ?
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Re: How many of you hear God like this?
so, who gets a good life is lucky and the ones with a bad life are unlucky ?
the real justice starts only in the afterlife ?
 Quoting: icepack


Read the story of the rich man and Lazarus starting at Luke 16:19. Read the book of Job.

There is both justice in this world and the next. Os it lucky to be rich yet do evil in this world, yet go to hell for eternity? Is it unlucky to be born poor, yet come to know Jesus and go to hevean for all eternity? who is more blessed?

Everyone is dealt a certain hand in this life...some are given more than others...if you look around there is always someone who is better off than you, and others who are worse off...but that's not what's important. What matters is the choices you make with what you have been given, and how you live your life on this planet because in the end everone will be judged by God for how they lived their life.
icepack

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12/18/2012 06:31 AM
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Re: How many of you hear God like this?
sorry, i have a different opinion. there are so many examples of people having problems without their own choice.
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12/18/2012 06:42 AM
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Re: How many of you hear God like this?
sorry, i have a different opinion. there are so many examples of people having problems without their own choice.
 Quoting: icepack


Duh.

It's only a problem if you acknowledge it as a problem in your MIND.
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12/18/2012 06:49 AM
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Re: How many of you hear God like this?
Watch 1:35:00 to 1:42:00



God tells a man in Minnesota in 1975 in the middle of the night to get up and go to Vietnam. He does. When he gets there, God leads him to 70 women and children that he is to help make it out of the country before Saigon falls...

So...How many of you would get up in the middle of the night and do this? How well are you hearing God? Are you following the leading of his spirit?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14093935


Wow, incredible testimony! We all need stronger faith!

Thanks OP!

hf
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12/18/2012 06:59 AM
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Re: How many of you hear God like this?
God speaks to me in a mighty voice and I tremble in fear as He commands me. I am merely the messenger of His Divine Will and I will say and do what He tells me to. I will do what He tells me to do and you should do the same. No human is worthy to even doubt if His commands are just. All that is required is faith in Him and total obedience.
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12/18/2012 07:10 AM
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Re: How many of you hear God like this?
sorry, i have a different opinion. there are so many examples of people having problems without their own choice.
 Quoting: icepack


Duh.

It's only a problem if you acknowledge it as a problem in your MIND.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18508623

the suffering of millions of people, only in their minds ?

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