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Here we go!! They know a gun law is just weeks away... BREAKING

 
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What is the balance between the freedom of the average citizen to have automatic fire arms and the freedom of citizens to pursue their daily lives without fear? Whatever the NRA says, guns kill, and automatic guns kill more effectively
 Quoting: Limpan


It is against the law for average citizens to own automatic weapons. Has been for a long time. When you go on a rant, you should have your facts straight first.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22478672


It is NOT against the law to own a fully automatic M16.
You have many hoops to jump through though:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

There are currently no such hoops for the AR-15,
the semi-auto version of the M-16.

If the gun grabbers have their way, America will have
to be content with Daisy BB guns.

The criminals of course will still have all the
firepower of modern armies.

Let's hope the majority of freedom loving Americans
tell the government to go straight to hell.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29961838


This post is so full of fail. The AR-15 is not the semi-auto version of the M16.

THE M16 HAS ITS OWN SEMI-AUTO VERSION.

The M16A2 currently used by the US Military is semi-automatic.

It has a 3 round burst setting in place of fully automatic setting because fully auto is less accurate.

Guess you would have to have served in the military to know that.
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Switzerland is the place to look at. They are very liberal with guns, BUT, they did the next logical step and actually make sure people know how to use them.

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org]

The government not only requires all natural citizens to take military training, they also require them to keep their issued gun and bullets in their house. They then also require/encourage yearly participation in gun training. As a result of this Switzerland has almost 1/3 the death rate as America (by % not total number, obviously). And the gun crimes that do take place by far use illegally acquired guns, not the Swiss issued guns.

When there is public knowledge that everyone has a gun AND knows how to use it, there is more fear of trying to assault those people.

America may have gotten the freedom thing right, but where we screwed up is the cultural obligation to teach people to be responsible.

It's like the parents who buy their 16 yr old a sports car and wonder why he's dead and wrapped around a tree within 6 months. Versus the parents that buy their kid a sports car and Dad has been taking the kid to weekend auto crossing since they were 14.
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People really do need hand guns and assault rifles in their homes, right.

I'm all for hunting rifles but it's time for guns to go...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28844290


Do you know what an assault rifle is? Is it just a semi automatic? If so I guess my .22 is an assault rifle.
 Quoting: Dr.Ricks



This is what wikipedia has on the last ban.

In the former U.S. law, the legal term assault weapon included certain specific semi-automatic firearm models by name (e.g., Colt AR-15, TEC-9, non-select-fire AK-47s produced by three manufacturers, and Uzis) and other semi-automatic firearms because they possess a minimum set of cosmetic features from the following list of features:


Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:

Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Bayonet mount
Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
Grenade launcher (more precisely, a muzzle device that enables launching or firing rifle grenades, though this applies only to muzzle mounted grenade launchers and not those mounted externally).

Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:

Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
Barrel shroud that can be used as a hand-hold
Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm.

Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following:

Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Fixed capacity of more than 5 rounds
Detachable magazine.
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If y'all can't see even from this alone that the Newtown massacre was a set-up and that Adam Lanza is innocent, you just shouldn't be on this site.

Those dear children were killed by government operatives paid and equipped by your tax dollars.
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They CANNOT crush America as long as we are well armed,
and that sticks in their craw.

Bring it on. It's about time we find out
who's who.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29961838


America Debt 16 trillion
2 wars
Corporate elite making billions
'war on terror'
1 trillion dollar deficit
Habeas Corpus
Executive order
BP Macondo
Manufacturing gutted
Middle class being destroyed

Crikey, I could go on and on and on.

Looks to me like America is getting crushed, no?

As for you, keep on following the bouncing ball.

Oh look, a dog with a fluffy tail!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21427624


You forgot Communism and the Cult of Maobama.
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If y'all can't see even from this alone that the Newtown massacre was a set-up and that Adam Lanza is innocent, you just shouldn't be on this site.

Those dear children were killed by government operatives paid and equipped by your tax dollars.
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Proof?
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12/18/2012 11:14 AM
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JUST BREAKING

Private equity firm Cerberus to sell investment in gunmaker Freedom Group in response to school shooting

[link to www.breakingnews.com]
 Quoting: Limpan


For a massacre in which NO children died! Please tell your friends, family, and neighbors that tptb are trying to pull a fast one, playing all of us for fools!

Encourage them to look at the footage, which shows NO real tears, NO screaming, NO chaotic scenes. It's great news, of course - NO CHILDREN DIED, THANK GOD! And when we spread the news like wildfire, the hold of tptb will BREAK!!

Idol1
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12/18/2012 11:16 AM
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7 Billion people on the planet!
That's a BIG number!
And I am one.
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JUST BREAKING

Private equity firm Cerberus to sell investment in gunmaker Freedom Group in response to school shooting

[link to www.breakingnews.com]
 Quoting: Limpan


For a massacre in which NO children died! Please tell your friends, family, and neighbors that tptb are trying to pull a fast one, playing all of us for fools!

Encourage them to look at the footage, which shows NO real tears, NO screaming, NO chaotic scenes. It's great news, of course - NO CHILDREN DIED, THANK GOD! And when we spread the news like wildfire, the hold of tptb will BREAK!!

Idol1
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Somebody ban this idiot already.
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12/18/2012 11:23 AM
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Hi points will still be around better get them while there cheap
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JUST BREAKING

Private equity firm Cerberus to sell investment in gunmaker Freedom Group in response to school shooting

[link to www.breakingnews.com]
 Quoting: Limpan


Dan Quayle is a part of Cerberus.
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They CANNOT crush America as long as we are well armed,
and that sticks in their craw.

Bring it on. It's about time we find out
who's who.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29961838


Looks like that's what it's coming to.

I wonder how many will turn 'em in?

Probably more than we'd like, and less than they'd like.

Interesting times.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8397139


The last time we went through this bullshit
they made the SALE of "assault" weapons illegal.

This time they want to make the sale or POSSESSION
illegal.

That either makes owners criminals,
like they did in England and Australia,
or involves CONFISCATION!!!

DO YOU GET THIS PEOPLE?

CONFISCATION!


THEY WILL TRY TO GET PEOPLE TO TURN IN THEIR
WEAPONS FIRST, WARNING THEM THEY WILL BECOME

FELONS

IF THEY DON'T


This will separate the men from the boys.

I've already decided I'll go down fighting.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29961838


Yep, I agree.

It's coming down to choose a side: Criminal Government or Constitution.

Which will it be, gentlemen?

We stand at an important threshold in history.

Know that if you turn your weapons in, you won't be alone - other will turn in also.

Know too that if you DO NOT turn your weapons in, you won't be alone either.
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12/18/2012 11:25 AM
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Pro 2nd Amendment Petitions
I know it's antithetical to the nature of this community / forum , but I thought I would post the links to two pro second amendment petitions on wh.gov.

[link to petitions.whitehouse.gov (secure)]

[link to petitions.whitehouse.gov (secure)]

I think it's time to put your money where you mouth is. The anti 2nd amendment position has many more signatures.

[link to petitions.whitehouse.gov (secure)]



from the post I made earlier:
Thread: Pro 2nd Amendment Petitions
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I bet they 'piggy-back' this gun-control bill onto the 'Fiscal-Fiasco Bill'....IT'S A TWO-FER!!!

screamscream
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12/18/2012 11:36 AM
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never happen
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12/18/2012 11:39 AM
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never happen
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Suppose though, that it does happen.

What then?
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12/18/2012 11:42 AM
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You americans are nice people.
You dont need guns.
At least not every moron should get a gun, but your shithole is so flooded of violence .. well, everyone has a gun in America.

Guns are bad, they cannot replace a small cock.
My rights trump your fucked thinking. - Trinity
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They CANNOT crush America as long as we are well armed,
and that sticks in their craw.

Bring it on. It's about time we find out
who's who.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29961838


America Debt 16 trillion
2 wars
Corporate elite making billions
'war on terror'
1 trillion dollar deficit
Habeas Corpus
Executive order
BP Macondo
Manufacturing gutted
Middle class being destroyed

Crikey, I could go on and on and on.

Looks to me like America is getting crushed, no?

As for you, keep on following the bouncing ball.

Oh look, a dog with a fluffy tail!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21427624



Well, this all adds up to us trying to protect ourselves, we've had too much! Sadly, the end result will not be in our favor
NWO is coming
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You americans are nice people.
You dont need guns.
At least not every moron should get a gun, but your shithole is so flooded of violence .. well, everyone has a gun in America.

Guns are bad, they cannot replace a small cock.
 Quoting: Rawfox


You made absolutely zero sense.

Our government is edging ever closer to tyranny. Which is why we have the 2nd Amendment.

So yeah, we kinda need guns now more than ever.

Sort of like the Jews needed them when your countrymen went apeshit back in WWII.
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You americans are nice people.
You dont need guns.
At least not every moron should get a gun, but your shithole is so flooded of violence .. well, everyone has a gun in America.

Guns are bad, they cannot replace a small cock.
 Quoting: Rawfox


Very intelligent comment. You have shown the true intellect of the German people. GOOD JOB!!
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12/18/2012 11:51 AM
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Get out that pen and paper and write:

CNN
1 Time Warner Center
New York, NY 10019

And tell them to discharge and deport that Limey Bastard Piers Morgan back to the dung heap he came from....
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WASHINGTON -- The mass shooting of 20 children and seven school officials on December 14 in the northeastern U.S. state of Connecticut has sparked an urgent national conversation in the United States about the country's gun laws -- or lack thereof.

As the funerals of the victims continue, key elected officials have declared that Americans can no longer ignore the fact that the country's constitutionally protected right to gun ownership is exacting a terrible toll.

The worst mass shooting in modern U.S. history happened in 2007, when 32 people were killed by a disturbed student at the Virginia Polytechnic Institute

[link to www.rferl.org]
 Quoting: Limpan


I think keeping guns away from sickos might be the first step, dumbasses. All these shootings have been done by mentally ill people.
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WASHINGTON -- The mass shooting of 20 children and seven school officials on December 14 in the northeastern U.S. state of Connecticut has sparked an urgent national conversation in the United States about the country's gun laws -- or lack thereof.

As the funerals of the victims continue, key elected officials have declared that Americans can no longer ignore the fact that the country's constitutionally protected right to gun ownership is exacting a terrible toll.

The worst mass shooting in modern U.S. history happened in 2007, when 32 people were killed by a disturbed student at the Virginia Polytechnic Institute

[link to www.rferl.org]
 Quoting: Limpan


I think keeping guns away from sickos might be the first step, dumbasses. All these shootings have been done by mentally ill people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30237901


I think most of us agree. Why the name calling?
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JUST BREAKING

Private equity firm Cerberus to sell investment in gunmaker Freedom Group in response to school shooting

[link to www.breakingnews.com]
 Quoting: Limpan


Dan Quayle is a part of Cerberus.
 Quoting: tandym


Dan Quayle is a part of Cerberus.
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7 Billion people on the planet!
That's a BIG number!
And I am one.
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People really do need hand guns and assault rifles in their homes, right.

I'm all for hunting rifles but it's time for guns to go...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28844290


hf +1
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You americans are nice people.
You dont need guns.
At least not every moron should get a gun, but your shithole is so flooded of violence .. well, everyone has a gun in America.

Guns are bad, they cannot replace a small cock.
 Quoting: Rawfox


hf +1
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People really do need hand guns and assault rifles in their homes, right.

I'm all for hunting rifles but it's time for guns to go...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28844290


THat's pretty fucking arrogant, telling me what I should need and not need in my home.
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People really do need hand guns and assault rifles in their homes, right.

I'm all for hunting rifles but it's time for guns to go...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28844290


THat's pretty fucking arrogant, telling me what I should need and not need in my home.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23106908


Don't you realize, that is the american way now. the minority know what is best for the majority and will tell them what they need.
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What is the balance between the freedom of the average citizen to have automatic fire arms and the freedom of citizens to pursue their daily lives without fear? Whatever the NRA says, guns kill, and automatic guns kill more effectively
 Quoting: Limpan

You are a shill. Average citizens do not have the freedom to have automatic weapons, and almost none do. You have to have a special dealer's license for that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29741931


So the 2nd ammendment has already been circumvented, and for a long time ?

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