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Firearms Should Have Passcodes or Fingerprint Recognition

 
abeliever

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Firearms Should Have Passcodes or Fingerprint Recognition
Maybe adding another layer of secure safety with a more updated technology would reduce accidents in the home, etc. That way horrific events like Sandy Hook are reduced too.

Thoughts?

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everyones callin it sandy hook now hmmm
abeliever (OP)

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12/18/2012 09:31 AM

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Locking them up in more secure places is what one hopes, but adding another layer with updated technology could be reviewed.

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12/18/2012 09:45 AM
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Obviously just locking them up isn't enough if the person can just find the key and get to them.

A combination locked safe may have been better in this case as long as he had no access to that combo.

But then the mother could never have had a gun ready for home protection.
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That's what lead to the thought of other forms of safety. I don't know. Just trying to think of ways.
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Okay, so the criminal cuts your finger off and uses your fingerprint anyway.

Or, said criminal tortures you until they get what they want.

It could happen.
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Perhaps you become skilled at hacking and hack the pass codes and then sell them or use them or change them all rendering them useless... kind of like an identity thief would.


You have to think like a criminal.
There are no rules until you get caught.
abeliever (OP)

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12/18/2012 09:59 AM

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I'm thinking how much would it work for just the accidents alone that occur with families who have guns. Many people die from just gun accidents alone. I'm not saying reduce firearms, I'm thinking add another layer of safety.


Gun Control Debate: 6 Chilling Facts About Guns in the U.S.

1. According to a 2011 report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, suicide was the #10 cause of death in the U.S. with 38,285 deaths reported. Of those suicides, guns were used in 19,766 cases (52%). Restricting access to guns may not impact the suicide rate, but then again it might.

2. The same report states that homicide by gun represented 11,101 deaths, 70% of total homicides. The annual homicide total in 2011 was 15,953.

3. Accidental firearm deaths accounted for 851 funerals. It may seem a small number considering the total deaths for the year exceeded 2.5 million, but if your family member was among them it would have been a tragic loss.

4. The Washington Post reported that since 1982 there have been 61 mass killings in the U.S. Presumably, these were all gun related. There are no statistics available for which of these mass murders involved assault rifles, but it’s safe to say when an assault rifle is used, more people die.


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That's what lead to the thought of other forms of safety. I don't know. Just trying to think of ways.
 Quoting: abeliever


I think it makes sense. As for "the criminal will cut your finger off and use it anyway", they'd have to be pretty fucking cold blooded to be able to do that without thinking twice, and if they were that cold blooded they'll probably find another way to kill someone.
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I'm thinking how much would it work for just the accidents alone that occur with families who have guns. Many people die from just gun accidents alone. I'm not saying reduce firearms, I'm thinking add another layer of safety.


Gun Control Debate: 6 Chilling Facts About Guns in the U.S.

1. According to a 2011 report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, suicide was the #10 cause of death in the U.S. with 38,285 deaths reported. Of those suicides, guns were used in 19,766 cases (52%). Restricting access to guns may not impact the suicide rate, but then again it might.

2. The same report states that homicide by gun represented 11,101 deaths, 70% of total homicides. The annual homicide total in 2011 was 15,953.

3. Accidental firearm deaths accounted for 851 funerals. It may seem a small number considering the total deaths for the year exceeded 2.5 million, but if your family member was among them it would have been a tragic loss.

4. The Washington Post reported that since 1982 there have been 61 mass killings in the U.S. Presumably, these were all gun related. There are no statistics available for which of these mass murders involved assault rifles, but it’s safe to say when an assault rifle is used, more people die.


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 Quoting: abeliever


This shows me a bigger problem then guns... mental health.
What if we could help to improve the mental well being of people?
That may have a good impact....
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That's what lead to the thought of other forms of safety. I don't know. Just trying to think of ways.
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I think it makes sense. As for "the criminal will cut your finger off and use it anyway", they'd have to be pretty fucking cold blooded to be able to do that without thinking twice, and if they were that cold blooded they'll probably find another way to kill someone.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


Anything could happen. Like I said, criminals live with no rules until they are caught.
How do you make the lawless live by the law?
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That's what lead to the thought of other forms of safety. I don't know. Just trying to think of ways.
 Quoting: abeliever


I think it makes sense. As for "the criminal will cut your finger off and use it anyway", they'd have to be pretty fucking cold blooded to be able to do that without thinking twice, and if they were that cold blooded they'll probably find another way to kill someone.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


um...how old and stupid are you?

do you read anything?

the "criminals" are "criminals"

your idead whats good or bad dose not matter to them,
ever.

lolz at you dude.
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That's what lead to the thought of other forms of safety. I don't know. Just trying to think of ways.
 Quoting: abeliever


I think it makes sense. As for "the criminal will cut your finger off and use it anyway", they'd have to be pretty fucking cold blooded to be able to do that without thinking twice, and if they were that cold blooded they'll probably find another way to kill someone.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


Anything could happen. Like I said, criminals live with no rules until they are caught.
How do you make the lawless live by the law?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27162552


Not so much living by the law as most people, unless they are seriously deranged or seriously evil, aren't going to go to the trouble and probable squickiness of removing a person's finger.

I'm not saying that no-one would do it, just that most petty criminals and even most armed robbers probably wouldn't.

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They do have they guns there not cheap tho but they do have them search google youll see
Lime Flavoured Redux

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12/18/2012 10:27 AM
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They do have they guns there not cheap tho but they do have them search google youll see
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I know, but as you say, they aren't cheap. I think the OP wants it to be mandatory.
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12/18/2012 10:33 AM
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Now that sounds like a brilliant idea.
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That's what lead to the thought of other forms of safety. I don't know. Just trying to think of ways.
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I think it makes sense. As for "the criminal will cut your finger off and use it anyway", they'd have to be pretty fucking cold blooded to be able to do that without thinking twice, and if they were that cold blooded they'll probably find another way to kill someone.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


Anything could happen. Like I said, criminals live with no rules until they are caught.
How do you make the lawless live by the law?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27162552


Not so much living by the law as most people, unless they are seriously deranged or seriously evil, aren't going to go to the trouble and probable squickiness of removing a person's finger.

I'm not saying that no-one would do it, just that most petty criminals and even most armed robbers probably wouldn't.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


Would you bet your life on 'probably wouldn't'?

Gun Control Debate: 6 Chilling Facts About Guns in the U.S.

1. According to a 2011 report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention,

2. The same report states that homicide by gun represented 11,101 deaths, 70% of total homicides. The annual homicide total in 2011 was 15,953.

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 Quoting: abeliever


It seems most homicide criminals would be willing to kill you. 70% by gun.... what is stopping them from cutting your finger off before or after they kill you?
Nothing.

I could see how a finger print or pass code may help prevent accidental firearm deaths.
I can see how finger print or pass code may help prevent some suicides by gun. But, for other incidents of suicide it will not help at all. There are other ways to kill yourself.

Here is what is working>> [link to www.huffingtonpost.com]
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What happens when that technology fails...my children have to die? Fuck that.
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Maybe if the standards of education in our schools were better we wouldn't have this discussion.

Maybe if the FDA didn't approve anti-depressent drugs that caused suicidal thoughts....

Maybe if we exposed children to guns earlier in their lives, they won't spend hours on call of duty everyday.

How many Boy Scouts go around lighting fires, stabbing people, and shooting up places with .22's and bows and arrows? None? I wonder why.
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I think it makes sense. As for "the criminal will cut your finger off and use it anyway", they'd have to be pretty fucking cold blooded to be able to do that without thinking twice, and if they were that cold blooded they'll probably find another way to kill someone.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


Anything could happen. Like I said, criminals live with no rules until they are caught.
How do you make the lawless live by the law?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27162552


Not so much living by the law as most people, unless they are seriously deranged or seriously evil, aren't going to go to the trouble and probable squickiness of removing a person's finger.

I'm not saying that no-one would do it, just that most petty criminals and even most armed robbers probably wouldn't.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


Would you bet your life on 'probably wouldn't'?
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Yes, because I think few enough people would be willing to do it that it's not worth worrying about. If someone is willing to cut off someone's finger, then they are more than likely willing to kill someone regardless of whether they have a weapon anyway. If someone is cutting off fingers, they have problems.
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Firearms Should Have [...] Fingerprint Recognition
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Don't believe everything you see in a James Bond movie!
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Re: Firearms Should Have Passcodes or Fingerprint Recognition
Maybe adding another layer of secure safety with a more updated technology would reduce accidents in the home, etc. That way horrific events like Sandy Hook are reduced too.

Thoughts?
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My thought is that you are an idiot. Arm everyone, you will see crime decrease, mass shootings will stop, Gangs will disappear, prison populations will shrink, people will become very "civil" to each other.
Most of Societies problems will end, real quick.

Their may be a population reduction in the first year, but that will stabilize, after we get rid of all the fools.
A Survival of the fittest, kind of thing.
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What happens when that technology fails...my children have to die? Fuck that.
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Just thinking the same thing.

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Don't believe everything you see in a James Bond movie!
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It's possible, but as has been said, it's expensive.
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Maybe adding another layer of secure safety with a more updated technology would reduce accidents in the home, etc. That way horrific events like Sandy Hook are reduced too.

Thoughts?
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Great concept their Einstein.
One EMP and the weapon becomes useless.

tard
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Maybe adding another layer of secure safety with a more updated technology would reduce accidents in the home, etc. That way horrific events like Sandy Hook are reduced too.

Thoughts?
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that's actually not a half bad idea
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Re: Firearms Should Have Passcodes or Fingerprint Recognition
Maybe adding another layer of secure safety with a more updated technology would reduce accidents in the home, etc. That way horrific events like Sandy Hook are reduced too.

Thoughts?
 Quoting: abeliever


Something similar has been tried already (MagLoc - Smartgun Conversion), I believe it didn´t perform very well in the field, otherwise it would be a hot seller.
That i know the technology for a biometric safety technology on the gun itself doesn´t exist yet.

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