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In the begining was the word and the word was...?

 
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AUM
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Every Vedic mantra is called brahma because each mantra is preceded by the brahmaksara (aum or omkara). For example, om namo bhagavate vasudevaya. Lord Krsna says in Bhagavad-gita (7.8), pranavah sarva-vedesu: “In all the Vedic mantras, I am represented by pranava, or omkara.” Thus chanting of the Vedic mantras beginning with omkara is directly chanting of Krsna’s name. There is no difference. Whether one chants omkara or addresses the Lord as “Krsna,” the meaning is the same, but Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu has recommended that in this age one chant the Hare Krsna mantra (harer nama eva kevalam [Adi 17.21]). Although there is no difference between Hare Krsna and the Vedic mantras beginning with omkara, sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, the leader of the spiritual movement for this age, has recommended that one chant Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare/ Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare.

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I suppose the Mantra has common root with english "I AM", sound simmilar.
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Just as Brief said. A word is merely vibration
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What if it's a written word?
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writing only happens in the Kali yuga. Before that man was such that all he heard was remembered exactly. No need for books.

The first books of knowledge were the culminated Vedas. With the Srimad Bhagavatam the final commentary(explanation)of Vedic conclusions and the last word on the subject of absolute knowledge. The author's name is Vyasadeva, a saktyavesa avatara of Lord Visnu who appeared just for this purpose. because in the Kali yuga man has lessor qualities and no memory.
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I suppose the Mantra has common root with english "I AM", sound simmilar.
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Actually English is a Sanskrit derivative as are all the indo-europian languages.
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I suppose the Mantra has common root with english "I AM", sound simmilar.
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Actually English is a Sanskrit derivative as are all the indo-europian languages.
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+1
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I suppose the Mantra has common root with english "I AM", sound simmilar.
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Actually English is a Sanskrit derivative as are all the indo-europian languages.
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+1
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NO,+1 to you!!

Someone told me in Slovakia Sanskrit is STILL spoken and revered.
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I suppose the Mantra has common root with english "I AM", sound simmilar.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


Actually English is a Sanskrit derivative as are all the indo-europian languages.
 Quoting: Maharaja


+1
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NO,+1 to you!!

Someone told me in Slovakia Sanskrit is STILL spoken and revered.
 Quoting: Maharaja


I dunno, but Hare Krishna movement is present. They have been doing an excelent work on spreading Vedic culture here and in the world. Most of my books on the matter are from them, translated on slovak or czech language.
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Actually English is a Sanskrit derivative as are all the indo-europian languages.
 Quoting: Maharaja


+1
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NO,+1 to you!!

Someone told me in Slovakia Sanskrit is STILL spoken and revered.
 Quoting: Maharaja


I dunno, but Hare Krishna movement is present. They have been doing an excelent work on spreading Vedic culture here and in the world. Most of my books on the matter are from them, translated on slovak or czech language.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


Being an original initiate by A.C. Bhaktivadanta Swami Maharaja I say run from changed books and usurpers that do not specify following the varna and asrama system. Wolves in sheeple's cloth.

If they say we do not have to follow this varna/asrama show them this................................................

SB. 8.30.2
In the fighting between the elephant and the crocodile, the difference was that although the elephant was extremely powerful, he was in a foreign place, in the water. During one thousand years of fighting, he could not get any food, and under the circumstances his bodily strength diminished, and because his bodily strength diminished, his mind also became weak and his senses less powerful. The crocodile, however, being an animal of the water, had no difficulties. He was getting food and was therefore getting mental strength and sensual encouragement. Thus while the elephant became reduced in strength, the crocodile became more and more powerful. Now, from this we may take the lesson that in our fight with maya we should not be in a position in which our strength, enthusiasm and senses will be unable to fight vigorously. Our Krsna consciousness movement has actually declared war against the illusory energy, in which all the living entities are rotting in a false understanding of civilization. The soldiers in this Krsna consciousness movement must always possess physical strength, enthusiasm and sensual power. To keep themselves fit, they must therefore place themselves in a normal condition of life. What constitutes a normal condition will not be the same for everyone, and therefore there are divisions of varnasrama—brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, sudra, brahmacarya, grhastha, vanaprastha and sannyasa. Especially in this age, Kali-yuga, it is advised that no one take sannyasa.


then ask about all the fallen guru's and sannyasi's

come to [link to groups.yahoo.com] and ask questions. There is a PHD from your area that is VERY knowledgeable on these subjects.
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+1
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NO,+1 to you!!

Someone told me in Slovakia Sanskrit is STILL spoken and revered.
 Quoting: Maharaja


I dunno, but Hare Krishna movement is present. They have been doing an excelent work on spreading Vedic culture here and in the world. Most of my books on the matter are from them, translated on slovak or czech language.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


Being an original initiate by A.C. Bhaktivadanta Swami Maharaja I say run from changed books and usurpers that do not specify following the varna and asrama system. Wolves in sheeple's cloth.

If they say we do not have to follow this varna/asrama show them this................................................

SB. 8.30.2
In the fighting between the elephant and the crocodile, the difference was that although the elephant was extremely powerful, he was in a foreign place, in the water. During one thousand years of fighting, he could not get any food, and under the circumstances his bodily strength diminished, and because his bodily strength diminished, his mind also became weak and his senses less powerful. The crocodile, however, being an animal of the water, had no difficulties. He was getting food and was therefore getting mental strength and sensual encouragement. Thus while the elephant became reduced in strength, the crocodile became more and more powerful. Now, from this we may take the lesson that in our fight with maya we should not be in a position in which our strength, enthusiasm and senses will be unable to fight vigorously. Our Krsna consciousness movement has actually declared war against the illusory energy, in which all the living entities are rotting in a false understanding of civilization. The soldiers in this Krsna consciousness movement must always possess physical strength, enthusiasm and sensual power. To keep themselves fit, they must therefore place themselves in a normal condition of life. What constitutes a normal condition will not be the same for everyone, and therefore there are divisions of varnasrama—brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, sudra, brahmacarya, grhastha, vanaprastha and sannyasa. Especially in this age, Kali-yuga, it is advised that no one take sannyasa.


then ask about all the fallen guru's and sannyasi's

come to [link to groups.yahoo.com] and ask questions. There is a PHD from your area that is VERY knowledgeable on these subjects.
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Thanks, but I have remained Christian. And He was teaching equality on Earth.
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Being an original initiate by A.C. Bhaktivadanta Swami Maharaja I say run from changed books and usurpers that do not specify following the varna and asrama system. Wolves in sheeple's cloth.


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so how does one follow varna/asrama?
That which eludes us is not what is unknown, but rather what has been forgotten.

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Being an original initiate by A.C. Bhaktivadanta Swami Maharaja I say run from changed books and usurpers that do not specify following the varna and asrama system. Wolves in sheeple's cloth.


 Quoting: Maharaja


so how does one follow varna/asrama?
 Quoting: I am he that is I


It does not matted any sectarian considerations. Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, even the pagans(demigod worshipers) can be part. Nor is your birth(father) a requirement. You are what you do, judged by the content/character of your own heart and actions. Not your fathers.

The only true application of Martin Luther King's I had a dream speech.

Following means ascertaining one own varna by intense introspection based on the Bhagavad-gita. Especially in the 18th ch is a conclusive guideline. Though those in the lower varnas may have confusion and need further guidance.

For the interim go to the link I gave and ask questions.

Also this link is to UNCHANGED books

[link to prabhupadabooks.com]

Plus it is a social methodology of human management, so it takes a village to actually have social function outside of your personal achievement.

This will be how we function in a Golden age.
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NO,+1 to you!!

Someone told me in Slovakia Sanskrit is STILL spoken and revered.
 Quoting: Maharaja


I dunno, but Hare Krishna movement is present. They have been doing an excelent work on spreading Vedic culture here and in the world. Most of my books on the matter are from them, translated on slovak or czech language.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975




Being an original initiate by A.C. Bhaktivadanta Swami Maharaja I say run from changed books and usurpers that do not specify following the varna and asrama system. Wolves in sheeple's cloth.

If they say we do not have to follow this varna/asrama show them this................................................

SB. 8.30.2
In the fighting between the elephant and the crocodile, the difference was that although the elephant was extremely powerful, he was in a foreign place, in the water. During one thousand years of fighting, he could not get any food, and under the circumstances his bodily strength diminished, and because his bodily strength diminished, his mind also became weak and his senses less powerful. The crocodile, however, being an animal of the water, had no difficulties. He was getting food and was therefore getting mental strength and sensual encouragement. Thus while the elephant became reduced in strength, the crocodile became more and more powerful. Now, from this we may take the lesson that in our fight with maya we should not be in a position in which our strength, enthusiasm and senses will be unable to fight vigorously. Our Krsna consciousness movement has actually declared war against the illusory energy, in which all the living entities are rotting in a false understanding of civilization. The soldiers in this Krsna consciousness movement must always possess physical strength, enthusiasm and sensual power. To keep themselves fit, they must therefore place themselves in a normal condition of life. What constitutes a normal condition will not be the same for everyone, and therefore there are divisions of varnasrama—brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, sudra, brahmacarya, grhastha, vanaprastha and sannyasa. Especially in this age, Kali-yuga, it is advised that no one take sannyasa.


then ask about all the fallen guru's and sannyasi's

come to [link to groups.yahoo.com] and ask questions. There is a PHD from your area that is VERY knowledgeable on these subjects.
 Quoting: Maharaja


Thanks, but I have remained Christian. And He was teaching equality on Earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


I got no problem with Christian or Jesus. But the bible is also a changed book. Constantly revised. By marriage I'm even connected to a local Baptist church, the preacher's son is my son-in-law!hf
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i'm around, i'm the OP!

someone needs to put some effort in here. scriptural references, general knowledge, intelligent guesses - all welcome. but no ones giving it a go except one or two.

no pain no gain :D


you guys suppose the word is limited to scriptures of one religion or will this be possibly universal?
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op - Unrelated to religion as that is a creation of Man. The word is absolutely universal, in an infinite sense.
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... dog?

... law?
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I dunno, but Hare Krishna movement is present. They have been doing an excelent work on spreading Vedic culture here and in the world. Most of my books on the matter are from them, translated on slovak or czech language.
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Being an original initiate by A.C. Bhaktivadanta Swami Maharaja I say run from changed books and usurpers that do not specify following the varna and asrama system. Wolves in sheeple's cloth.

If they say we do not have to follow this varna/asrama show them this................................................

SB. 8.30.2
In the fighting between the elephant and the crocodile, the difference was that although the elephant was extremely powerful, he was in a foreign place, in the water. During one thousand years of fighting, he could not get any food, and under the circumstances his bodily strength diminished, and because his bodily strength diminished, his mind also became weak and his senses less powerful. The crocodile, however, being an animal of the water, had no difficulties. He was getting food and was therefore getting mental strength and sensual encouragement. Thus while the elephant became reduced in strength, the crocodile became more and more powerful. Now, from this we may take the lesson that in our fight with maya we should not be in a position in which our strength, enthusiasm and senses will be unable to fight vigorously. Our Krsna consciousness movement has actually declared war against the illusory energy, in which all the living entities are rotting in a false understanding of civilization. The soldiers in this Krsna consciousness movement must always possess physical strength, enthusiasm and sensual power. To keep themselves fit, they must therefore place themselves in a normal condition of life. What constitutes a normal condition will not be the same for everyone, and therefore there are divisions of varnasrama—brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, sudra, brahmacarya, grhastha, vanaprastha and sannyasa. Especially in this age, Kali-yuga, it is advised that no one take sannyasa.


then ask about all the fallen guru's and sannyasi's

come to [link to groups.yahoo.com] and ask questions. There is a PHD from your area that is VERY knowledgeable on these subjects.
 Quoting: Maharaja


Thanks, but I have remained Christian. And He was teaching equality on Earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


I got no problem with Christian or Jesus. But the bible is also a changed book. Constantly revised. By marriage I'm even connected to a local Baptist church, the preacher's son is my son-in-law!hf
 Quoting: Maharaja


Have you ever thought that's what they want you to believe? Since no atheist has answered this;

If you were an angelic being whose sole purpose was to take away souls from your Creator and your wisdom and knowledge were light years ahead of humans...With all of that power at your disposal, what methods would you use in order to achieve that goal?

Please answer.

P.S. We all know denominations aren't legit. Baptists are prince behind Catholicism, but answer the question.

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1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Isaiah 9:6 KJV
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Mark 16:16 KJV
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 2:38 KJV
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Romans 8:6-9 KJV
6) For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Matthew 15:8-9 KJV
8) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9) But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Acts 5:29 KJV
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

"The biggest sign from God, to let us all know that man can never be God? Death." - Anonymous
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Being an original initiate by A.C. Bhaktivadanta Swami Maharaja I say run from changed books and usurpers that do not specify following the varna and asrama system. Wolves in sheeple's cloth.

If they say we do not have to follow this varna/asrama show them this................................................

SB. 8.30.2
In the fighting between the elephant and the crocodile, the difference was that although the elephant was extremely powerful, he was in a foreign place, in the water. During one thousand years of fighting, he could not get any food, and under the circumstances his bodily strength diminished, and because his bodily strength diminished, his mind also became weak and his senses less powerful. The crocodile, however, being an animal of the water, had no difficulties. He was getting food and was therefore getting mental strength and sensual encouragement. Thus while the elephant became reduced in strength, the crocodile became more and more powerful. Now, from this we may take the lesson that in our fight with maya we should not be in a position in which our strength, enthusiasm and senses will be unable to fight vigorously. Our Krsna consciousness movement has actually declared war against the illusory energy, in which all the living entities are rotting in a false understanding of civilization. The soldiers in this Krsna consciousness movement must always possess physical strength, enthusiasm and sensual power. To keep themselves fit, they must therefore place themselves in a normal condition of life. What constitutes a normal condition will not be the same for everyone, and therefore there are divisions of varnasrama—brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, sudra, brahmacarya, grhastha, vanaprastha and sannyasa. Especially in this age, Kali-yuga, it is advised that no one take sannyasa.


then ask about all the fallen guru's and sannyasi's

come to [link to groups.yahoo.com] and ask questions. There is a PHD from your area that is VERY knowledgeable on these subjects.
 Quoting: Maharaja


Thanks, but I have remained Christian. And He was teaching equality on Earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


I got no problem with Christian or Jesus. But the bible is also a changed book. Constantly revised. By marriage I'm even connected to a local Baptist church, the preacher's son is my son-in-law!hf
 Quoting: Maharaja


Have you ever thought that's what they want you to believe? Since no atheist has answered this;

If you were an angelic being whose sole purpose was to take away souls from your Creator and your wisdom and knowledge were light years ahead of humans...With all of that power at your disposal, what methods would you use in order to achieve that goal?

Please answer.

P.S. We all know denominations aren't legit. Baptists are prince behind Catholicism, but answer the question.
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easy, keep all the souls in one place, away from the creater by making them forget about the creater in the first place. like a stasis, stop time and immediately spin out fake time, people "see" progress, but its not there. the creater never gets the souls becuase the souls never return. they stay.
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Puppaooomamowmow Puppaooomamowmow.....

Repeat for eternity.
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LOL!
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When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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Thanks, but I have remained Christian. And He was teaching equality on Earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


I got no problem with Christian or Jesus. But the bible is also a changed book. Constantly revised. By marriage I'm even connected to a local Baptist church, the preacher's son is my son-in-law!hf
 Quoting: Maharaja


Have you ever thought that's what they want you to believe? Since no atheist has answered this;

If you were an angelic being whose sole purpose was to take away souls from your Creator and your wisdom and knowledge were light years ahead of humans...With all of that power at your disposal, what methods would you use in order to achieve that goal?

Please answer.

P.S. We all know denominations aren't legit. Baptists are prince behind Catholicism, but answer the question.
 Quoting: cmoG530


easy, keep all the souls in one place, away from the creater by making them forget about the creater in the first place. like a stasis, stop time and immediately spin out fake time, people "see" progress, but its not there. the creater never gets the souls becuase the souls never return. they stay.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1634447


Excuse me, but that's not what I asked. So, you know....move on if you're not going to answer.goaway
1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Isaiah 9:6 KJV
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Mark 16:16 KJV
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 2:38 KJV
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Romans 8:6-9 KJV
6) For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Matthew 15:8-9 KJV
8) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9) But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Acts 5:29 KJV
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

"The biggest sign from God, to let us all know that man can never be God? Death." - Anonymous
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I got no problem with Christian or Jesus. But the bible is also a changed book. Constantly revised. By marriage I'm even connected to a local Baptist church, the preacher's son is my son-in-law!hf
 Quoting: Maharaja


Have you ever thought that's what they want you to believe? Since no atheist has answered this;

If you were an angelic being whose sole purpose was to take away souls from your Creator and your wisdom and knowledge were light years ahead of humans...With all of that power at your disposal, what methods would you use in order to achieve that goal?

Please answer.

P.S. We all know denominations aren't legit. Baptists are prince behind Catholicism, but answer the question.
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easy, keep all the souls in one place, away from the creater by making them forget about the creater in the first place. like a stasis, stop time and immediately spin out fake time, people "see" progress, but its not there. the creater never gets the souls becuase the souls never return. they stay.
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Excuse me, but that's not what I asked. So, you know....move on if you're not going to answer.goaway
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sorry, is my wisdom and knowledge light years ahead of you?
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Have you ever thought that's what they want you to believe? Since no atheist has answered this;

If you were an angelic being whose sole purpose was to take away souls from your Creator and your wisdom and knowledge were light years ahead of humans...With all of that power at your disposal, what methods would you use in order to achieve that goal?

Please answer.

P.S. We all know denominations aren't legit. Baptists are prince behind Catholicism, but answer the question.
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easy, keep all the souls in one place, away from the creater by making them forget about the creater in the first place. like a stasis, stop time and immediately spin out fake time, people "see" progress, but its not there. the creater never gets the souls becuase the souls never return. they stay.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1634447


Excuse me, but that's not what I asked. So, you know....move on if you're not going to answer.goaway
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sorry, is my wisdom and knowledge light years ahead of you?
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if you know psychology inccluding interpersonal diagnosis, how the brain "creats" perception, and you know how langunage and culture relate to these functions, you set loose a self fullfilling notion, embedded in the wrold psyche sold through via goverments, that the way things are and have been is real and factual.
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easy, keep all the souls in one place, away from the creater by making them forget about the creater in the first place. like a stasis, stop time and immediately spin out fake time, people "see" progress, but its not there. the creater never gets the souls becuase the souls never return. they stay.
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Excuse me, but that's not what I asked. So, you know....move on if you're not going to answer.goaway
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sorry, is my wisdom and knowledge light years ahead of you?
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if you know psychology inccluding interpersonal diagnosis, how the brain "creats" perception, and you know how langunage and culture relate to these functions, you set loose a self fullfilling notion, embedded in the wrold psyche sold through via goverments, that the way things are and have been is real and factual.
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its moddeled from a universal system, entropy, half the work was already done.
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the question: "If you were an angelic being whose sole purpose was to take away souls from your Creator and your wisdom and knowledge were light years ahead of humans...With all of that power at your disposal, what methods would you use in order to achieve that goal?"


Ha, Ha, Ha this is a ridiculous question. All angelic demigods are favorable to you. No one, nothing, can hold you beyond your own free will. Until you freely love Krsna in toto, you can not re-enter the spiritual world.

We are self imprisoned. In Krsna's prison-house(this phenomenal world, billions of universes) held by Krsna's guard until such time as we have purified ourselves.

Nothing contaminated gets (back)into the spiritual world.

There is such a "personality" that keeps us here and She uses delusion. That which is not. She is called Maya, an aspect of Krsna's sister, Subhadra. The methodology of release is knowledge or more precisely self-realization. Knowing and acting on the constitutional entomology of the soul as created by Krsna.

We hold ourselves here by delusion, absent of absolute truth.
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the question: "If you were an angelic being whose sole purpose was to take away souls from your Creator and your wisdom and knowledge were light years ahead of humans...With all of that power at your disposal, what methods would you use in order to achieve that goal?"


Ha, Ha, Ha this is a ridiculous question. All angelic demigods are favorable to you. No one, nothing, can hold you beyond your own free will. Until you freely love Krsna in toto, you can not re-enter the spiritual world.

We are self imprisoned. In Krsna's prison-house(this phenomenal world, billions of universes) held by Krsna's guard until such time as we have purified ourselves.

Nothing contaminated gets (back)into the spiritual world.

There is such a "personality" that keeps us here and She uses delusion. That which is not. She is called Maya, an aspect of Krsna's sister, Subhadra. The methodology of release is knowledge or more precisely self-realization. Knowing and acting on the constitutional entomology of the soul as created by Krsna.

We hold ourselves here by delusion, absent of absolute truth.
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i agree, btw :) the way i kinda saw him ask the question was:"who created the blueprint to delusion? "
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the question: "If you were an angelic being whose sole purpose was to take away souls from your Creator and your wisdom and knowledge were light years ahead of humans...With all of that power at your disposal, what methods would you use in order to achieve that goal?"


Ha, Ha, Ha this is a ridiculous question. All angelic demigods are favorable to you. No one, nothing, can hold you beyond your own free will. Until you freely love Krsna in toto, you can not re-enter the spiritual world.

We are self imprisoned. In Krsna's prison-house(this phenomenal world, billions of universes) held by Krsna's guard until such time as we have purified ourselves.

Nothing contaminated gets (back)into the spiritual world.

There is such a "personality" that keeps us here and She uses delusion. That which is not. She is called Maya, an aspect of Krsna's sister, Subhadra. The methodology of release is knowledge or more precisely self-realization. Knowing and acting on the constitutional entomology of the soul as created by Krsna.

We hold ourselves here by delusion, absent of absolute truth.
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i agree, btw :) the way i kinda saw him ask the question was:"who created the blueprint to delusion? "
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Krsna is all in all, it all comes from Him. All is explained in the Srimad Bhagavatam in detail. The last word of Vedic(Aryan) knowledge.

Now you want to know why. Nothing contaminated can stay in the presents of purity, or it is no longer pure. Very simply put we all had a chance and choose this(service to self) instead of that, serving Krsna. We had a moment and blew it!!

So the mechanism is in place to automatically remove contamination immediately and inject it(spirit soul) into a place of contamination, this temporary phenomenal world.

Maya's job(we do not thank Her for this, nor is She our friend, so to speak, at this level of conversation) is to test and retest. Remember Jesus and the 40 days? The actual key is always with us, free will. But it must be cent-per-cent imposed on the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Sri Krsna in loving service. No one can ever be forced. Love means freely imposed service in loving exchange.

As for the higher beings, they are the best devotee and your best friends. If you do not approach Krsna directly, we can approach indirectly threw them, but with different result. We go to heaven, still in this duality and material world.

If we then blow it again, we come back to this planet. Or we could go into hellish life.
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the Word is set against a 32 digit sequence. This is hinted at in the Hymn to Lord Krishna, Jewish Kabballah etc.
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What number is used in creation and is also infinite? Would God's "word" not be infinite?
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the Word is set against a 32 digit sequence. This is hinted at in the Hymn to Lord Krishna, Jewish Kabballah etc.
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When you us Krsna's name you must provide scriptures to prove this BS. Yews are fools, anti Vedic
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the question: "If you were an angelic being whose sole purpose was to take away souls from your Creator and your wisdom and knowledge were light years ahead of humans...With all of that power at your disposal, what methods would you use in order to achieve that goal?"


Ha, Ha, Ha this is a ridiculous question. All angelic demigods are favorable to you. No one, nothing, can hold you beyond your own free will. Until you freely love Krsna in toto, you can not re-enter the spiritual world.

We are self imprisoned. In Krsna's prison-house(this phenomenal world, billions of universes) held by Krsna's guard until such time as we have purified ourselves.

Nothing contaminated gets (back)into the spiritual world.

There is such a "personality" that keeps us here and She uses delusion. That which is not. She is called Maya, an aspect of Krsna's sister, Subhadra. The methodology of release is knowledge or more precisely self-realization. Knowing and acting on the constitutional entomology of the soul as created by Krsna.

We hold ourselves here by delusion, absent of absolute truth.
 Quoting: Maharaja


i agree, btw :) the way i kinda saw him ask the question was:"who created the blueprint to delusion? "
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1634447


Krsna is all in all, it all comes from Him. All is explained in the Srimad Bhagavatam in detail. The last word of Vedic(Aryan) knowledge.

Now you want to know why. Nothing contaminated can stay in the presents of purity, or it is no longer pure. Very simply put we all had a chance and choose this(service to self) instead of that, serving Krsna. We had a moment and blew it!!

So the mechanism is in place to automatically remove contamination immediately and inject it(spirit soul) into a place of contamination, this temporary phenomenal world.

Maya's job(we do not thank Her for this, nor is She our friend, so to speak, at this level of conversation) is to test and retest. Remember Jesus and the 40 days? The actual key is always with us, free will. But it must be cent-per-cent imposed on the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Sri Krsna in loving service. No one can ever be forced. Love means freely imposed service in loving exchange.

As for the higher beings, they are the best devotee and your best friends. If you do not approach Krsna directly, we can approach indirectly threw them, but with different result. We go to heaven, still in this duality and material world.

If we then blow it again, we come back to this planet. Or we could go into hellish life.
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I don't know much about this Krsna fellow, but sure sounds a lot like God, and it also seems that what you are advocating is the same as what Jesus taught, and is also the same as what the mystery schools teach. This is truth brother.

The truth is always present but is only seen and heard by those 'with eyes to see and ears to hear' and 'the seeing eye and the hearing ear, the Lord hath made even both of them'.

However, I believe we are entering the age where the whole world is waking up and beginning to realize these divine principles. Does your school of thought address such an issue?
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the Word is set against a 32 digit sequence. This is hinted at in the Hymn to Lord Krishna, Jewish Kabballah etc.
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When you us Krsna's name you must provide scriptures to prove this BS. Yews are fools, anti Vedic
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Oh shit... now I am.
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