GUN CONTROL,. WHAT WILL THE NEW PROPOSED LAWS BE? | |
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| Dapurps hakuna matata User ID: 30138682 12/18/2012 11:54 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is what i think will happen. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] "What you perceive to be becomes your reality." ![]() dapurps |
| *HEISENBERG* (OP) I bleed orange and black User ID: 30143760 12/18/2012 11:56 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can see how that could be a concern, but I think it would be too difficult for the state to run a psych evaluation of everyone who goes to purchase a firearm. Formerly:Michael Bolton Negan, Rick Grimes, Heisenberg, Charlie Scene, “The Fourth Amendment is clear; we should be secure in our persons, houses, papers, and effects, and all warrants must have probable cause. Today the government operates largely in secret, while seeking to know everything about our private lives – without probable cause and without a warrant. The government does not need to know more about what we are doing. We need to know more about what the government is doing.”-Ron Paul |
| *HEISENBERG* (OP) I bleed orange and black User ID: 30143760 12/18/2012 11:57 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think we'll see a repeat of the '94 "Assault" weapons ban. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1144869 I doubt they'll enact a no-Grandfathering clause, as it would lead to serious civil unrest. Just my $.02 I agree. Thanks! Formerly:Michael Bolton Negan, Rick Grimes, Heisenberg, Charlie Scene, “The Fourth Amendment is clear; we should be secure in our persons, houses, papers, and effects, and all warrants must have probable cause. Today the government operates largely in secret, while seeking to know everything about our private lives – without probable cause and without a warrant. The government does not need to know more about what we are doing. We need to know more about what the government is doing.”-Ron Paul |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25007705 12/18/2012 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips. Quoting: *HEISENBERG* On a side note I never ever again want to hear the phrase "we need to have this discussion as a country" ever again! It has been used to death these past 4-5 days. So what do you think? Edit* I was supposed to have a poll in this thread.......but I failed! lol One of the guntards are gonna jump on you for using the term 'assault rifle', dont ya know they're just semi-autos that look like assault rifles! wahhh |
| *HEISENBERG* (OP) I bleed orange and black User ID: 30143760 12/18/2012 12:00 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting. Formerly:Michael Bolton Negan, Rick Grimes, Heisenberg, Charlie Scene, “The Fourth Amendment is clear; we should be secure in our persons, houses, papers, and effects, and all warrants must have probable cause. Today the government operates largely in secret, while seeking to know everything about our private lives – without probable cause and without a warrant. The government does not need to know more about what we are doing. We need to know more about what the government is doing.”-Ron Paul |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1319233 12/18/2012 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The DC gun registration was the testing ground for the new gun laws. I guarantee this will be the new national law: [link to mpdc.dc.gov] This legislation is already in place and ready to be implemented. Once again they just needed the catalyst. |
| *HEISENBERG* (OP) I bleed orange and black User ID: 30143760 12/18/2012 12:00 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips. Quoting: *HEISENBERG* On a side note I never ever again want to hear the phrase "we need to have this discussion as a country" ever again! It has been used to death these past 4-5 days. So what do you think? Edit* I was supposed to have a poll in this thread.......but I failed! lol One of the guntards are gonna jump on you for using the term 'assault rifle', dont ya know they're just semi-autos that look like assault rifles! wahhh Oh well, I am a guntard. Formerly:Michael Bolton Negan, Rick Grimes, Heisenberg, Charlie Scene, “The Fourth Amendment is clear; we should be secure in our persons, houses, papers, and effects, and all warrants must have probable cause. Today the government operates largely in secret, while seeking to know everything about our private lives – without probable cause and without a warrant. The government does not need to know more about what we are doing. We need to know more about what the government is doing.”-Ron Paul |
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| Dapurps hakuna matata User ID: 30138682 12/18/2012 12:01 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can see how that could be a concern, but I think it would be too difficult for the state to run a psych evaluation of everyone who goes to purchase a firearm. Never under-estimate the power of a Police state aha, but ya your partly right. He could simply say there are too many mentally ill people as an excuse to TRY and confiscate all guns. "What you perceive to be becomes your reality." ![]() dapurps |
| *HEISENBERG* (OP) I bleed orange and black User ID: 30143760 12/18/2012 12:01 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The DC gun registration was the testing ground for the new gun laws. I guarantee this will be the new national law: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1319233 [link to mpdc.dc.gov] This legislation is already in place and ready to be implemented. Once again they just needed the catalyst. That link didn't work for me. Can you give me a brief overview? Formerly:Michael Bolton Negan, Rick Grimes, Heisenberg, Charlie Scene, “The Fourth Amendment is clear; we should be secure in our persons, houses, papers, and effects, and all warrants must have probable cause. Today the government operates largely in secret, while seeking to know everything about our private lives – without probable cause and without a warrant. The government does not need to know more about what we are doing. We need to know more about what the government is doing.”-Ron Paul |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 20465273 12/18/2012 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the real reason for the push against push against 2nd Amendment... the so-called lower social classes now have more of them and eventually they'll be used to ensure the oppression of the groups they benefited for many years. now...the rules need to be changed to even out the playing field... ...it's not gonna work. enjoy. for those people to murder their own children like that was a really f(&(&(ed up thing to do for any reason. |
| *HEISENBERG* (OP) I bleed orange and black User ID: 30143760 12/18/2012 12:04 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hear ya on that one. Regardless of what happens with Gun control, we are still in trouble. Formerly:Michael Bolton Negan, Rick Grimes, Heisenberg, Charlie Scene, “The Fourth Amendment is clear; we should be secure in our persons, houses, papers, and effects, and all warrants must have probable cause. Today the government operates largely in secret, while seeking to know everything about our private lives – without probable cause and without a warrant. The government does not need to know more about what we are doing. We need to know more about what the government is doing.”-Ron Paul |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30237901 12/18/2012 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They MAY do an assault weapons ban but it will not be retroactive. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30234819 LOL...to appease the dumb fucks that don't know what they are talking about, so they can all party the night away with their faggot friends, celebrating the "assault weapon ban" that will do nothing, just like the previous one....The same rifles will be for sell, dumbasses, they just won't be allowed to have flash suppressors or a collapsible stock. |
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| Sleeping Giant Haste The Day User ID: 543618 12/18/2012 12:09 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's look to Chicago as a beacon of gun control laws. Through Sunday, there have been at least 200 homicides compared to 134 during the same period in 2011, a 49.25 increase, according to unofficial police data. Shootings are up nearly 14 percent over the last year through Sunday: 851 compared to 747 in 2011, according to the data. Gun homicides increased by more than 70 log points between 2000 and 2007, but shootings actually decreased over this period. The rise in homicides cannot therefore be attributed simply to more shootings. A higher proportion of shootings had intent to hit someone, and a higher proportion did hit someone, but the major story is that the probability of a murder conditional on a hit rose: 56% of the log rise in gun homicides is due to the higher conditional probability of death conditional on being hit by a gunshot. Murders rose mainly because shootings became more deadly, especially shootings where someone was wounded. [link to www.chicagomag.com] "You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." ~C.S. Lewis "And Lord, haste the day when my faith shall be sight, The clouds be rolled back as a scroll; The trump shall resound, and the Lord shall descend, Even so, it is well with my soul." Thread: 37 Survival Downloads and Handbooks – Pioneering, SHTF, Engineering, Urban Gardening, Defense, and More |
| *HEISENBERG* (OP) I bleed orange and black User ID: 30143760 12/18/2012 12:10 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They MAY do an assault weapons ban but it will not be retroactive. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30234819 LOL...to appease the dumb fucks that don't know what they are talking about, so they can all party the night away with their faggot friends, celebrating the "assault weapon ban" that will do nothing, just like the previous one....The same rifles will be for sell, dumbasses, they just won't be allowed to have flash suppressors or a collapsible stock. That could very well be the case. Formerly:Michael Bolton Negan, Rick Grimes, Heisenberg, Charlie Scene, “The Fourth Amendment is clear; we should be secure in our persons, houses, papers, and effects, and all warrants must have probable cause. Today the government operates largely in secret, while seeking to know everything about our private lives – without probable cause and without a warrant. The government does not need to know more about what we are doing. We need to know more about what the government is doing.”-Ron Paul |
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| *HEISENBERG* (OP) I bleed orange and black User ID: 30143760 12/18/2012 12:12 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's look to Chicago as a beacon of gun control laws. Quoting: Sleeping Giant Through Sunday, there have been at least 200 homicides compared to 134 during the same period in 2011, a 49.25 increase, according to unofficial police data. Shootings are up nearly 14 percent over the last year through Sunday: 851 compared to 747 in 2011, according to the data. Gun homicides increased by more than 70 log points between 2000 and 2007, but shootings actually decreased over this period. The rise in homicides cannot therefore be attributed simply to more shootings. A higher proportion of shootings had intent to hit someone, and a higher proportion did hit someone, but the major story is that the probability of a murder conditional on a hit rose: 56% of the log rise in gun homicides is due to the higher conditional probability of death conditional on being hit by a gunshot. Murders rose mainly because shootings became more deadly, especially shootings where someone was wounded. [link to www.chicagomag.com] Great....Chicago is such an awesome model for safety across the country... Formerly:Michael Bolton Negan, Rick Grimes, Heisenberg, Charlie Scene, “The Fourth Amendment is clear; we should be secure in our persons, houses, papers, and effects, and all warrants must have probable cause. Today the government operates largely in secret, while seeking to know everything about our private lives – without probable cause and without a warrant. The government does not need to know more about what we are doing. We need to know more about what the government is doing.”-Ron Paul |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30234819 12/18/2012 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They MAY do an assault weapons ban but it will not be retroactive. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30234819 LOL...to appease the dumb fucks that don't know what they are talking about, so they can all party the night away with their faggot friends, celebrating the "assault weapon ban" that will do nothing, just like the previous one....The same rifles will be for sell, dumbasses, they just won't be allowed to have flash suppressors or a collapsible stock. It's going to be fun rubbing it in their faces. lol |
| *HEISENBERG* (OP) I bleed orange and black User ID: 30143760 12/18/2012 12:14 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They'll just attempt ban the "assault" looking rifles and limit magazine capacity to ten rounds. Is that really so bad? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1283316 That's what I'm thinking they will do. But when you say that's not so bad, that's great that it's not soo bad for you. Many people I'm sure feel that way. But why should what you or others think is "not so bad" be pushed on EVERYONE? Why is your opinion of not so bad good enough for all? I'm not attacking you, just outlining the fact that either way it's an attack on personal liberty. Formerly:Michael Bolton Negan, Rick Grimes, Heisenberg, Charlie Scene, “The Fourth Amendment is clear; we should be secure in our persons, houses, papers, and effects, and all warrants must have probable cause. Today the government operates largely in secret, while seeking to know everything about our private lives – without probable cause and without a warrant. The government does not need to know more about what we are doing. We need to know more about what the government is doing.”-Ron Paul |
| indiandave User ID: 27213312 12/18/2012 12:14 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It will be the 1994 ban on steroids. If you have an "evil black rifle" you can keep it but you won't be able to sell it. If it breaks it will be illegal for a gun smith to work on it. Also no mfg of parts by anyone. It also will do nothing for lowering crime. But the Feinsteins of this world will have a feel good moment and pat themselves on the back. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12901583 12/18/2012 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips. Quoting: *HEISENBERG* On a side note I never ever again want to hear the phrase "we need to have this discussion as a country" ever again! It has been used to death these past 4-5 days. So what do you think? Edit* I was supposed to have a poll in this thread.......but I failed! lol OMG every person that comes on CNN says we need to have this discussion. When they can figure out something new to say I may listen untill then screw it. |