GUN CONTROL,. WHAT WILL THE NEW PROPOSED LAWS BE? | |
Saddletramp User ID: 812002 Puerto Rico 12/18/2012 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
*HEISENBERG* (OP) User ID: 30143760 United States 12/18/2012 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It will be the 1994 ban on steroids. If you have an "evil black rifle" you can keep it but you won't be able to sell it. If it breaks it will be illegal for a gun smith to work on it. Also no mfg of parts by anyone. It also will do nothing for lowering crime. But the Feinsteins of this world will have a feel good moment and pat themselves on the back. Quoting: indiandave I tend to agree. |
Dapurps User ID: 30138682 Canada 12/18/2012 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Reinforced and bulletproof windows then...just like banning illegal drugs, banning guns will only get them out of the hands of those that obey the law...murderers generally don't obey laws. Outlaw guns so only outlaws can have guns. Seems logical "What you perceive to be becomes your reality." :ftwpanda: dapurps |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12303344 United States 12/18/2012 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That brings up another interesting point. What if anything, should be changed in school security? Armed gaurds? Metal detectors? Would we even feel better if we made children feel like they were in prison? Feel like your in prison while on a airplane ? [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States 12/18/2012 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That brings up another interesting point. What if anything, should be changed in school security? Armed gaurds? Metal detectors? Would we even feel better if we made children feel like they were in prison? I can't even enter the first set of doors to my kids schools with out pushing a button and identifying myself and stating the reason for my visit... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1028551 United States 12/18/2012 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They'll just attempt ban the "assault" looking rifles and limit magazine capacity to ten rounds. Is that really so bad? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1283316 Yes. Read very slowly: Short of complete confiscation, no additional restrictions on firearms can stop maniacs from doing fucked up shit, and even with complete confiscation this is questionable. And guess what? Complete confiscation won't ever happen in this country without a civil war. period. |
maelstrom User ID: 30235606 United States 12/18/2012 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They'll just attempt ban the "assault" looking rifles and limit magazine capacity to ten rounds. Is that really so bad? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1283316 It would only be a gesture - it wouldn't do anything. I'm not giving up my STANDARD capacity mags and I know of no sane free person who would. I know that some people would feel better about themselves by telling me what I can't have, but frankly, I really don't care what makes them feel better. In my neighborhood, I can't even take my garbage can to the curb without getting into a confrontation some weeks. Do you or anyone have the guts to tell me that I don't need a weapon for the defense of myself and family? I want you to come to my neighborhood for a night tour. You would be in tears by 11:00PM. You wouldn't be able to sleep at night without knowing someone was there armed, to protect your life. Because the police only show up to write reports in the daylight. |
*HEISENBERG* (OP) User ID: 30143760 United States 12/18/2012 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They'll just attempt ban the "assault" looking rifles and limit magazine capacity to ten rounds. Is that really so bad? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1283316 Yes. Read very slowly: Short of complete confiscation, no additional restrictions on firearms can stop maniacs from doing fucked up shit, and even with complete confiscation this is questionable. And guess what? Complete confiscation won't ever happen in this country without a civil war. period. I agree there too. Americans will give up a lot if we had to, but not our guns! |
Saddletramp User ID: 812002 Puerto Rico 12/18/2012 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think whatever they try to pass as far as an assault weapons ban will include registration of all firearms... And they will make private transfer illegal... And then, during some form of "National Emergency" they will be knocking on your door at 12:00 a.m. to collect your firearms...for your safety of course... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
*HEISENBERG* (OP) User ID: 30143760 United States 12/18/2012 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They almost always do "Registration" before "Confiscation"... Quoting: Saddletramp I think whatever they try to pass as far as an assault weapons ban will include registration of all firearms... And they will make private transfer illegal... And then, during some form of "National Emergency" they will be knocking on your door at 12:00 a.m. to collect your firearms...for your safety of course... I think that part is possible. Not likely IMO but possible. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17952489 United States 12/18/2012 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It will be the 1994 ban on steroids. If you have an "evil black rifle" you can keep it but you won't be able to sell it. If it breaks it will be illegal for a gun smith to work on it. Also no mfg of parts by anyone. It also will do nothing for lowering crime. But the Feinsteins of this world will have a feel good moment and pat themselves on the back. Quoting: indiandave I tend to agree. Good thing I have a cnc mill in the basement and full cad drawings for every part of my black rifle :) |
maelstrom User ID: 30235606 United States 12/18/2012 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It will be the 1994 ban on steroids. If you have an "evil black rifle" you can keep it but you won't be able to sell it. If it breaks it will be illegal for a gun smith to work on it. Also no mfg of parts by anyone. It also will do nothing for lowering crime. But the Feinsteins of this world will have a feel good moment and pat themselves on the back. Quoting: indiandave I tend to agree. Good thing I have a cnc mill in the basement and full cad drawings for every part of my black rifle :) That's a good reminder. Also, there have been perfectly legal homemade firearms - if it were made illegal there is nothing to stop people from making perfectly illegal homemade firearms. 3D printing is in its infant stage, but as it gets better, there will be no such concept as gun control. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29271249 United States 12/18/2012 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It will be the 1994 ban on steroids. If you have an "evil black rifle" you can keep it but you won't be able to sell it. If it breaks it will be illegal for a gun smith to work on it. Also no mfg of parts by anyone. It also will do nothing for lowering crime. But the Feinsteins of this world will have a feel good moment and pat themselves on the back. Quoting: indiandave I tend to agree. Good thing I have a cnc mill in the basement and full cad drawings for every part of my black rifle :) Dumb asses will try to ban home machine shops next. I wanna see them come get my bridgeport. |
Saddletramp User ID: 812002 Puerto Rico 12/18/2012 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They almost always do "Registration" before "Confiscation"... Quoting: Saddletramp I think whatever they try to pass as far as an assault weapons ban will include registration of all firearms... And they will make private transfer illegal... And then, during some form of "National Emergency" they will be knocking on your door at 12:00 a.m. to collect your firearms...for your safety of course... I think that part is possible. Not likely IMO but possible. Well, lets put it this way then, Private Transfer without paperwork being filed with the government will become illegal...they may well allow you to sell your weapons, but they will want to track them... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30234819 United States 12/18/2012 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They'll just attempt ban the "assault" looking rifles and limit magazine capacity to ten rounds. Is that really so bad? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1283316 Yes. Read very slowly: Short of complete confiscation, no additional restrictions on firearms can stop maniacs from doing fucked up shit, and even with complete confiscation this is questionable. And guess what? Complete confiscation won't ever happen in this country without a civil war. period. That won't even work. There are millions of unregistered firearms in this country and well hidden too. What are they gonna do, metal detector every inch? |
Sleeping Giant User ID: 543618 United States 12/18/2012 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It begins: Thread: BREAKING..This is Getting Stupid!! Cheaper Than Dirt STOPS Selling Guns! Wake up, oh sleeper, and rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17952489 United States 12/18/2012 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It will be the 1994 ban on steroids. If you have an "evil black rifle" you can keep it but you won't be able to sell it. If it breaks it will be illegal for a gun smith to work on it. Also no mfg of parts by anyone. It also will do nothing for lowering crime. But the Feinsteins of this world will have a feel good moment and pat themselves on the back. Quoting: indiandave I tend to agree. Good thing I have a cnc mill in the basement and full cad drawings for every part of my black rifle :) That's a good reminder. Also, there have been perfectly legal homemade firearms - if it were made illegal there is nothing to stop people from making perfectly illegal homemade firearms. 3D printing is in its infant stage, but as it gets better, there will be no such concept as gun control. Yup. I recently built a completely legal AK, no serial numbers, no database entry. They can't take what they don't know you have. *grabs shovel* |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30234819 United States 12/18/2012 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It will be the 1994 ban on steroids. If you have an "evil black rifle" you can keep it but you won't be able to sell it. If it breaks it will be illegal for a gun smith to work on it. Also no mfg of parts by anyone. It also will do nothing for lowering crime. But the Feinsteins of this world will have a feel good moment and pat themselves on the back. Quoting: indiandave I tend to agree. Good thing I have a cnc mill in the basement and full cad drawings for every part of my black rifle :) LMAO I was JUST going to say that. 20 year machinist here. lol |
*HEISENBERG* (OP) User ID: 30143760 United States 12/18/2012 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They almost always do "Registration" before "Confiscation"... Quoting: Saddletramp I think whatever they try to pass as far as an assault weapons ban will include registration of all firearms... And they will make private transfer illegal... And then, during some form of "National Emergency" they will be knocking on your door at 12:00 a.m. to collect your firearms...for your safety of course... I think that part is possible. Not likely IMO but possible. Well, lets put it this way then, Private Transfer without paperwork being filed with the government will become illegal...they may well allow you to sell your weapons, but they will want to track them... Oh yea, they want to track and be involved in EVERYTHING! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17952489 United States 12/18/2012 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It will be the 1994 ban on steroids. If you have an "evil black rifle" you can keep it but you won't be able to sell it. If it breaks it will be illegal for a gun smith to work on it. Also no mfg of parts by anyone. It also will do nothing for lowering crime. But the Feinsteins of this world will have a feel good moment and pat themselves on the back. Quoting: indiandave I tend to agree. Good thing I have a cnc mill in the basement and full cad drawings for every part of my black rifle :) Dumb asses will try to ban home machine shops next. I wanna see them come get my bridgeport. Bridgeport? They're gonna need a bigger truck ;) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20372045 United States 12/18/2012 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips. Quoting: *HEISENBERG* On a side note I never ever again want to hear the phrase "we need to have this discussion as a country" ever again! It has been used to death these past 4-5 days. So what do you think? Edit* I was supposed to have a poll in this thread.......but I failed! lol YOU are a fucking NWO SHILL THERE WILL BE NO NEW GUN LAWS. ANY GUNS LAWS ARE AN AFFRONT TO THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION. SO FUCK OFF, YOU DIRTY EVIL COMMUNIST SHILL. |
Sleeping Giant User ID: 543618 United States 12/18/2012 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | cheaperthandirt.com was a huge online firearm retailer. Now it says: Cheaper Than Dirt! doesn't sell guns. [link to www.cheaperthandirt.com] Wake up, oh sleeper, and rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you |
*HEISENBERG* (OP) User ID: 30143760 United States 12/18/2012 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips. Quoting: *HEISENBERG* On a side note I never ever again want to hear the phrase "we need to have this discussion as a country" ever again! It has been used to death these past 4-5 days. So what do you think? Edit* I was supposed to have a poll in this thread.......but I failed! lol YOU are a fucking NWO SHILL THERE WILL BE NO NEW GUN LAWS. ANY GUNS LAWS ARE AN AFFRONT TO THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION. SO FUCK OFF, YOU DIRTY EVIL COMMUNIST SHILL. Don't hold back. Tell me how you really feel. lol |
*HEISENBERG* (OP) User ID: 30143760 United States 12/18/2012 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | cheaperthandirt.com was a huge online firearm retailer. Now it says: Cheaper Than Dirt! doesn't sell guns. [link to www.cheaperthandirt.com] Yea that's crazy. It will be back tho. There will not be a ban on all firearms, and when there is money to be made.......they will be back. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1283316 Canada 12/18/2012 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They'll just attempt ban the "assault" looking rifles and limit magazine capacity to ten rounds. Is that really so bad? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1283316 It would only be a gesture - it wouldn't do anything. I'm not giving up my STANDARD capacity mags and I know of no sane free person who would. I know that some people would feel better about themselves by telling me what I can't have, but frankly, I really don't care what makes them feel better. In my neighborhood, I can't even take my garbage can to the curb without getting into a confrontation some weeks. Do you or anyone have the guts to tell me that I don't need a weapon for the defense of myself and family? I want you to come to my neighborhood for a night tour. You would be in tears by 11:00PM. You wouldn't be able to sleep at night without knowing someone was there armed, to protect your life. Because the police only show up to write reports in the daylight. Umm..... I know it sounds crazy, and it's just a suggestion but if it really is as bad as you say why not just.... MOVE? Seems to be a much simpler and less stressful response than going armed all the time, don't you think? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30230129 United States 12/18/2012 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At the minimum: 1. Magazine capicity of more than 10 rounds prohibited. 2. Cannot purchase more than one gun a month. 3. 15 day waiting period for gun purchases. 4. Ban on all semi auto pistol and rifles. 5. Limit on the amount of ammunition purchased. 6. Holographic and laser sights limited to military and law enforcement only. |
Sleeping Giant User ID: 543618 United States 12/18/2012 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips. Quoting: *HEISENBERG* On a side note I never ever again want to hear the phrase "we need to have this discussion as a country" ever again! It has been used to death these past 4-5 days. So what do you think? Edit* I was supposed to have a poll in this thread.......but I failed! lol YOU are a fucking NWO SHILL THERE WILL BE NO NEW GUN LAWS. ANY GUNS LAWS ARE AN AFFRONT TO THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION. SO FUCK OFF, YOU DIRTY EVIL COMMUNIST SHILL. Don't hold back. Tell me how you really feel. lol I didn't realize that you loved the NWO, Heisy. lol Wake up, oh sleeper, and rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you |