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| *HEISENBERG* (OP) PC Load Letter? WTF does that mean? User ID: 30143760 12/18/2012 01:43 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Okay so, let me attach a side question if I may: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1144869 What about 'Grandfathering'? Will they make all the people with magazines that hold more than 10 rounds turn them in? Speculation welcome... Thanks. I don't picture that happening. I mean it's always a possibility when everyones emotions are running high....but I personally would doubt that. I think it'd be REALLY hard to enforce something like that, you know? My God, there are millions of mags that hold more than 10 rounds in circulation... But I don't put it past those clowns in DC to try it. Yea, it would be very difficult to enforce. Formerly:Negan,Rick Grimes, Heisenberg,Charlie Scene, Evan. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25214501 12/18/2012 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In Calif when they Banned High capacity Mags You just could not buy them any more. I do not remember them asking people to turn them in. However remember the Bank shoot-out in LA, also anyone caught in the commision of a crime using a HCM is in deep crap, or if the Police raid your home for what ever reason and they find some they had better be pre ban, (they did not say for Law enforcementor/Military Use) on the bottom. Pre ban had nothing printed on the bottom. But there are so many rules out here it is hard to keep track of. Ex post Facto also plays a part. [link to legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1144869 12/18/2012 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In Calif when they Banned High capacity Mags You just could not buy them any more. I do not remember them asking people to turn them in. However remember the Bank shoot-out in LA, also anyone caught in the commision of a crime using a HCM is in deep crap, or if the Police raid your home for what ever reason and they find some they had better be pre ban, (they did not say for Law enforcementor/Military Use) on the bottom. Pre ban had nothing printed on the bottom. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25214501 But there are so many rules out here it is hard to keep track of. Ex post Facto also plays a part. [link to legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com] Good point. I don't recall seeing magazines with stamps, etc. on them. Do yes, I see a situation where if you're caught with one it'll be a gray enough area to get you in serious trouble. Looks like we stand soon or we stand never. Gettin' down to brass tacks fellas. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27936953 12/18/2012 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips. Quoting: *HEISENBERG* On a side note I never ever again want to hear the phrase "we need to have this discussion as a country" ever again! It has been used to death these past 4-5 days. So what do you think? Edit* I was supposed to have a poll in this thread.......but I failed! lol They have to call a meeting with the Bloods and the Crypts first,then gun talks begin. |
| *HEISENBERG* (OP) PC Load Letter? WTF does that mean? User ID: 30143760 12/18/2012 01:49 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips. Quoting: *HEISENBERG* On a side note I never ever again want to hear the phrase "we need to have this discussion as a country" ever again! It has been used to death these past 4-5 days. So what do you think? Edit* I was supposed to have a poll in this thread.......but I failed! lol They have to call a meeting with the Bloods and the Crypts first,then gun talks begin. lol Formerly:Negan,Rick Grimes, Heisenberg,Charlie Scene, Evan. |
| Maguyver User ID: 808852 12/18/2012 01:51 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips. Quoting: *HEISENBERG* On a side note I never ever again want to hear the phrase "we need to have this discussion as a country" ever again! It has been used to death these past 4-5 days. So what do you think? Edit* I was supposed to have a poll in this thread.......but I failed! lol One of the guntards are gonna jump on you for using the term 'assault rifle', dont ya know they're just semi-autos that look like assault rifles! wahhh I've been hunting many times with various scary black guns. There are varmit models for small long range critters and there are hog busting .450 caliber models for hunting that 300# feral pig. The .308 is perfect for white tail deer. There are also target models specifically designed for sillouette competitions. The AR-15 and it's clones are the most popular rifle in the US. And not without reason. Just sayin'.... They aren't just for the army any more. Adversity is inevitable, misery is optional. Do or do not. There is no try. "The enemy will never attack where you are strongest...He will attack where you are weakest. If you do not know your weakest point, be certain, your enemy will." Sun Tzu |
Chip![]() Forum Moderator User ID: 22480895 12/18/2012 01:51 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Okay so, let me attach a side question if I may: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1144869 What about 'Grandfathering'? Will they make all the people with magazines that hold more than 10 rounds turn them in? Speculation welcome... Thanks. Laws legally cannot be retroactive according to the constitution. But, we know how much they follow that old "obsolete" document. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. ~Arthur C. Clarke Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. ~Mark Twain |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1144869 12/18/2012 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Okay so, let me attach a side question if I may: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1144869 What about 'Grandfathering'? Will they make all the people with magazines that hold more than 10 rounds turn them in? Speculation welcome... Thanks. Laws legally cannot be retroactive according to the constitution. But, we know how much they follow that old "obsolete" document. Thanks Chip! Hey man, I'm glad you're on 'our' side in all of this. (And, honestly? I've never complimented or brown-nosed a mod.) |
| Maguyver User ID: 808852 12/18/2012 01:54 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It will be the 1994 ban on steroids. If you have an "evil black rifle" you can keep it but you won't be able to sell it. If it breaks it will be illegal for a gun smith to work on it. Also no mfg of parts by anyone. It also will do nothing for lowering crime. But the Feinsteins of this world will have a feel good moment and pat themselves on the back. Quoting: indiandave I tend to agree. Interesting tidbit here... Any ban would only be inforcable via the interstate commerce clause. If it's built and sold only in that states borders, it can't be inforced...or so I hear. Adversity is inevitable, misery is optional. Do or do not. There is no try. "The enemy will never attack where you are strongest...He will attack where you are weakest. If you do not know your weakest point, be certain, your enemy will." Sun Tzu |
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| *HEISENBERG* (OP) PC Load Letter? WTF does that mean? User ID: 30143760 12/18/2012 01:55 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips. Quoting: *HEISENBERG* yes. all firearms will be banned (you morons have abused your privilege) Except: 1 six-shooter revolver allowed for each person, for personal protection. end of story You are incorrect, IMO They will not ban all firearms. Formerly:Negan,Rick Grimes, Heisenberg,Charlie Scene, Evan. |
| *HEISENBERG* (OP) PC Load Letter? WTF does that mean? User ID: 30143760 12/18/2012 01:57 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It will be the 1994 ban on steroids. If you have an "evil black rifle" you can keep it but you won't be able to sell it. If it breaks it will be illegal for a gun smith to work on it. Also no mfg of parts by anyone. It also will do nothing for lowering crime. But the Feinsteins of this world will have a feel good moment and pat themselves on the back. Quoting: indiandave I tend to agree. Interesting tidbit here... Any ban would only be inforcable via the interstate commerce clause. If it's built and sold only in that states borders, it can't be inforced...or so I hear. That's interesting! Formerly:Negan,Rick Grimes, Heisenberg,Charlie Scene, Evan. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1144869 12/18/2012 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips. Quoting: *HEISENBERG* yes. all firearms will be banned (you morons have abused your privilege) Except: 1 six-shooter revolver allowed for each person, for personal protection. end of story You are incorrect, IMO They will not ban all firearms. Agreed. That's too much, too soon. I can see what Saddletramp (I think that was his name) said earlier - registration coming. That sounds likely. |
| Maguyver User ID: 808852 12/18/2012 02:00 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At the minimum: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30230129 1. Magazine capicity of more than 10 rounds prohibited. 2. Cannot purchase more than one gun a month. 3. 15 day waiting period for gun purchases. 4. Ban on all semi auto pistol and rifles. 5. Limit on the amount of ammunition purchased. 6. Holographic and laser sights limited to military and law enforcement only. Why? 1) I hate reloading at the range and when stalking wild hogs. 2) What if I run across a deal on a rare gun I've wanted for years, but just also purchased a .22 Single Six for my daughter? 3) See #2 above... 4) See #1 above...(is a revolver a semi auto? It's one pull, one shot, too. 5) I can easily run through 1000 rounds in a day. Sometimes more, depending on what I'm shooting and what range I visit. What's too much? 6) laser sights are WAY over rated. But why ban them? Holographic sights are EXCELLENT hunting tools; quick target aquisition. Adversity is inevitable, misery is optional. Do or do not. There is no try. "The enemy will never attack where you are strongest...He will attack where you are weakest. If you do not know your weakest point, be certain, your enemy will." Sun Tzu |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25214501 12/18/2012 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Found this old Question site, it has some good questions and answers about the Mag issueJust some old dates. It also refers to the "LEO" marking. [link to www.thehighroad.org] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25214501 12/18/2012 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Probably a buyback. The Government will pay good money for your guns. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29898248 Probably a buyback. The Government will pay good money for your guns. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29898248 HA a Buy back...your kidding right....They give you a $100.00 dollar bill or a gift card to wall mart. Way less then the value of the firearm. [link to gma.yahoo.com] |
| MultiStrada User ID: 25674130 12/18/2012 02:15 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At the minimum: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30230129 1. Magazine capicity of more than 10 rounds prohibited. 2. Cannot purchase more than one gun a month. 3. 15 day waiting period for gun purchases. 4. Ban on all semi auto pistol and rifles. 5. Limit on the amount of ammunition purchased. 6. Holographic and laser sights limited to military and law enforcement only. Ouch! I hope you're wrong. I think he's close but whatever they do, nothing will be fixed. ![]() |
| *HEISENBERG* (OP) PC Load Letter? WTF does that mean? User ID: 30143760 12/18/2012 02:18 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At the minimum: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30230129 1. Magazine capicity of more than 10 rounds prohibited. 2. Cannot purchase more than one gun a month. 3. 15 day waiting period for gun purchases. 4. Ban on all semi auto pistol and rifles. 5. Limit on the amount of ammunition purchased. 6. Holographic and laser sights limited to military and law enforcement only. Ouch! I hope you're wrong. I think he's close but whatever they do, nothing will be fixed. ![]() No, nothing will be fixed. I think we will go back to the assault rifle ban and smaller capacity mags......I live in California, that's how it's been here for a while now. Formerly:Negan,Rick Grimes, Heisenberg,Charlie Scene, Evan. |
| Sleeping Giant Haste The Day User ID: 543618 12/18/2012 02:22 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Probably a buyback. The Government will pay good money for your guns. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29898248 Thread: City Offers Citizens Free Flu Shots And Gift Card In Return for Their Guns "You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." ~C.S. Lewis "And Lord, haste the day when my faith shall be sight, The clouds be rolled back as a scroll; The trump shall resound, and the Lord shall descend, Even so, it is well with my soul." Thread: 37 Survival Downloads and Handbooks – Pioneering, SHTF, Engineering, Urban Gardening, Defense, and More |
| Resister In God we trust User ID: 669410 12/18/2012 02:22 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips. Quoting: *HEISENBERG* On a side note I never ever again want to hear the phrase "we need to have this discussion as a country" ever again! It has been used to death these past 4-5 days. So what do you think? Edit* I was supposed to have a poll in this thread.......but I failed! lol The proposals have been ready and waiting for a long time. They whip them out every excuse they get. You can expect something along the lines of the Clinton gun bans (capacity, method of fire) but two things stand in the way of any new significant gun ban becoming law. 1. Time. It will be about a month before congress even can get around to debating anything and that is time that will allow emotional knee jerk reactions to both cool off and get gun owner's to call their reps opposing it. 2. The House is more pro-gun now than it was when the Clinton gun ban or the Brady bill was passed and in both cases the next congressional election saw a bloodletting of Democrats they have never forgotten. It is more of a third rail in politics than Social Security. I should probably give up trying to predict what the criminal, NWO, Washington DC, forked-tongued, double snake head congress will or won’t do, but my guess is near nothing because the House won’t allow it. Remember, we went through the same thing with Columbine, and Aurora, and the Giffords pre-planned fiasco. The only thing that happened after those events was that states expanded carry laws to make it easier for people to defend themselves without worrying that they would be treated like the criminals that attacked them. The end result may be that Obama directs the BATFE try to re-word regulations to rule by fiat. A dictator is gonna do what a dictator is gonna do. "God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787 [link to line-in-the-sand.blogspot.com] |
| *HEISENBERG* (OP) PC Load Letter? WTF does that mean? User ID: 30143760 12/18/2012 02:22 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Probably a buyback. The Government will pay good money for your guns. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29898248 Thread: City Offers Citizens Free Flu Shots And Gift Card In Return for Their Guns Wow that's retarded. Formerly:Negan,Rick Grimes, Heisenberg,Charlie Scene, Evan. |
| IssueX User ID: 14348632 12/18/2012 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The DC gun registration was the testing ground for the new gun laws. I guarantee this will be the new national law: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1319233 [link to mpdc.dc.gov] This legislation is already in place and ready to be implemented. Once again they just needed the catalyst. and obviously it has worked so well, as DC is now free of crime and gun deaths lol fwiw, they tried this in Canada, which is smaller and filled with people who trust government more than the US it turned out to be expensive and never was fully implemented this last year, they finally gave up on it, but hey, why should that stop us, right? |
| *HEISENBERG* (OP) PC Load Letter? WTF does that mean? User ID: 30143760 12/18/2012 02:24 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips. Quoting: *HEISENBERG* On a side note I never ever again want to hear the phrase "we need to have this discussion as a country" ever again! It has been used to death these past 4-5 days. So what do you think? Edit* I was supposed to have a poll in this thread.......but I failed! lol The proposals have been ready and waiting for a long time. They whip them out every excuse they get. You can expect something along the lines of the Clinton gun bans (capacity, method of fire) but two things stand in the way of any new significant gun ban becoming law. 1. Time. It will be about a month before congress even can get around to debating anything and that is time that will allow emotional knee jerk reactions to both cool off and get gun owner's to call their reps opposing it. 2. The House is more pro-gun now than it was when the Clinton gun ban or the Brady bill was passed and in both cases the next congressional election saw a bloodletting of Democrats they have never forgotten. It is more of a third rail in politics than Social Security. I should probably give up trying to predict what the criminal, NWO, Washington DC, forked-tongued, double snake head congress will or won’t do, but my guess is near nothing because the House won’t allow it. Remember, we went through the same thing with Columbine, and Aurora, and the Giffords pre-planned fiasco. The only thing that happened after those events was that states expanded carry laws to make it easier for people to defend themselves without worrying that they would be treated like the criminals that attacked them. The end result may be that Obama directs the BATFE try to re-word regulations to rule by fiat. A dictator is gonna do what a dictator is gonna do. I hope the house kills any gun ban legislation, but I have seen some Republicans sounding like liberals this last weekend. Formerly:Negan,Rick Grimes, Heisenberg,Charlie Scene, Evan. |
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