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GUN CONTROL,. WHAT WILL THE NEW PROPOSED LAWS BE?

 
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So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips.



On a side note I never ever again want to hear the phrase "we need to have this discussion as a country" ever again! It has been used to death these past 4-5 days.

So what do you think?



Edit* I was supposed to have a poll in this thread.......but I failed! lol
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


They have to call a meeting with the
Bloods and the Crypts first,then gun talks begin.
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So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips.



On a side note I never ever again want to hear the phrase "we need to have this discussion as a country" ever again! It has been used to death these past 4-5 days.

So what do you think?



Edit* I was supposed to have a poll in this thread.......but I failed! lol
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


They have to call a meeting with the
Bloods and the Crypts first,then gun talks begin.
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lol
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So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips.



On a side note I never ever again want to hear the phrase "we need to have this discussion as a country" ever again! It has been used to death these past 4-5 days.

So what do you think?



Edit* I was supposed to have a poll in this thread.......but I failed! lol
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


One of the guntards are gonna jump on you for using the term 'assault rifle', dont ya know they're just semi-autos that look like assault rifles! wahhh
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I've been hunting many times with various scary black guns. There are varmit models for small long range critters and there are hog busting .450 caliber models for hunting that 300# feral pig. The .308 is perfect for white tail deer. There are also target models specifically designed for sillouette competitions.

The AR-15 and it's clones are the most popular rifle in the US. And not without reason. Just sayin'....

They aren't just for the army any more.

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Okay so, let me attach a side question if I may:

What about 'Grandfathering'?

Will they make all the people with magazines that hold more than 10 rounds turn them in?

Speculation welcome...

Thanks.
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Okay so, let me attach a side question if I may:

What about 'Grandfathering'?

Will they make all the people with magazines that hold more than 10 rounds turn them in?

Speculation welcome...

Thanks.
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Laws legally cannot be retroactive according to the constitution. But, we know how much they follow that old "obsolete" document.
 Quoting: Chip


Thanks Chip!

Hey man, I'm glad you're on 'our' side in all of this.

cheers

(And, honestly? I've never complimented or brown-nosed a mod.)
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It will be the 1994 ban on steroids. If you have an "evil black rifle" you can keep it but you won't be able to sell it. If it breaks it will be illegal for a gun smith to work on it. Also no mfg of parts by anyone. It also will do nothing for lowering crime. But the Feinsteins of this world will have a feel good moment and pat themselves on the back.
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I tend to agree.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


Interesting tidbit here...

Any ban would only be inforcable via the interstate commerce clause.

If it's built and sold only in that states borders, it can't be inforced...or so I hear.
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So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips.


 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


yes. all firearms will be banned (you morons have abused
your privilege)

Except:

1 six-shooter revolver allowed for each person, for personal protection.

end of story
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Use both hands for gun control.
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So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips.


 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


yes. all firearms will be banned (you morons have abused
your privilege)

Except:

1 six-shooter revolver allowed for each person, for personal protection.

end of story
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4365896


You are incorrect, IMO

They will not ban all firearms.
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It will be the 1994 ban on steroids. If you have an "evil black rifle" you can keep it but you won't be able to sell it. If it breaks it will be illegal for a gun smith to work on it. Also no mfg of parts by anyone. It also will do nothing for lowering crime. But the Feinsteins of this world will have a feel good moment and pat themselves on the back.
 Quoting: indiandave


I tend to agree.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


Interesting tidbit here...

Any ban would only be inforcable via the interstate commerce clause.

If it's built and sold only in that states borders, it can't be inforced...or so I hear.
 Quoting: Maguyver


That's interesting!
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So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips.


 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


yes. all firearms will be banned (you morons have abused
your privilege)

Except:

1 six-shooter revolver allowed for each person, for personal protection.

end of story
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4365896


You are incorrect, IMO

They will not ban all firearms.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


Agreed. That's too much, too soon.

I can see what Saddletramp (I think that was his name) said earlier - registration coming.

That sounds likely.
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At the minimum:
1. Magazine capicity of more than 10 rounds prohibited.
2. Cannot purchase more than one gun a month.
3. 15 day waiting period for gun purchases.
4. Ban on all semi auto pistol and rifles.
5. Limit on the amount of ammunition purchased.
6. Holographic and laser sights limited to military and law enforcement only.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30230129


Why?

1) I hate reloading at the range and when stalking wild hogs.

2) What if I run across a deal on a rare gun I've wanted for years, but just also purchased a .22 Single Six for my daughter?

3) See #2 above...

4) See #1 above...(is a revolver a semi auto? It's one pull, one shot, too.

5) I can easily run through 1000 rounds in a day. Sometimes more, depending on what I'm shooting and what range I visit. What's too much?

6) laser sights are WAY over rated. But why ban them? Holographic sights are EXCELLENT hunting tools; quick target aquisition.

cheers
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Found this old Question site, it has some good questions and answers about the Mag issueJust some old dates. It also refers to the "LEO" marking.





[link to www.thehighroad.org]





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You guys rolling over already?






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Probably a buyback. The Government will pay good money for your guns.
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You guys rolling over already?






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chuckle

Nah. You been reading?
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You guys rolling over already?






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Just being realistic.

We don't want gun control (well most of us) but we can see the road signs.
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Probably a buyback. The Government will pay good money for your guns.
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Probably a buyback. The Government will pay good money for your guns.
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HA a Buy back...your kidding right....They give you a $100.00 dollar bill or a gift card to wall mart. Way less then the value of the firearm.


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At the minimum:
1. Magazine capicity of more than 10 rounds prohibited.
2. Cannot purchase more than one gun a month.
3. 15 day waiting period for gun purchases.
4. Ban on all semi auto pistol and rifles.
5. Limit on the amount of ammunition purchased.
6. Holographic and laser sights limited to military and law enforcement only.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30230129


Ouch! I hope you're wrong.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


I think he's close but whatever they do, nothing will be fixed.

yoda
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At the minimum:
1. Magazine capicity of more than 10 rounds prohibited.
2. Cannot purchase more than one gun a month.
3. 15 day waiting period for gun purchases.
4. Ban on all semi auto pistol and rifles.
5. Limit on the amount of ammunition purchased.
6. Holographic and laser sights limited to military and law enforcement only.
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Ouch! I hope you're wrong.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


I think he's close but whatever they do, nothing will be fixed.

yoda
 Quoting: MultiStrada


No, nothing will be fixed. I think we will go back to the assault rifle ban and smaller capacity mags......I live in California, that's how it's been here for a while now.
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Probably a buyback. The Government will pay good money for your guns.
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So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips.



On a side note I never ever again want to hear the phrase "we need to have this discussion as a country" ever again! It has been used to death these past 4-5 days.

So what do you think?



Edit* I was supposed to have a poll in this thread.......but I failed! lol
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


The proposals have been ready and waiting for a long time. They whip them out every excuse they get. You can expect something along the lines of the Clinton gun bans (capacity, method of fire) but two things stand in the way of any new significant gun ban becoming law.

1. Time. It will be about a month before congress even can get around to debating anything and that is time that will allow emotional knee jerk reactions to both cool off and get gun owner's to call their reps opposing it.

2. The House is more pro-gun now than it was when the Clinton gun ban or the Brady bill was passed and in both cases the next congressional election saw a bloodletting of Democrats they have never forgotten. It is more of a third rail in politics than Social Security.

I should probably give up trying to predict what the criminal, NWO, Washington DC, forked-tongued, double snake head congress will or won’t do, but my guess is near nothing because the House won’t allow it. Remember, we went through the same thing with Columbine, and Aurora, and the Giffords pre-planned fiasco. The only thing that happened after those events was that states expanded carry laws to make it easier for people to defend themselves without worrying that they would be treated like the criminals that attacked them.

The end result may be that Obama directs the BATFE try to re-word regulations to rule by fiat. A dictator is gonna do what a dictator is gonna do.
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Probably a buyback. The Government will pay good money for your guns.
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1rof1

Wow that's retarded.
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The DC gun registration was the testing ground for the new gun laws. I guarantee this will be the new national law:

[link to mpdc.dc.gov]


This legislation is already in place and ready to be implemented.
Once again they just needed the catalyst.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1319233


and obviously it has worked so well, as DC is now free of crime and gun deaths

lol

fwiw, they tried this in Canada, which is smaller and filled with people who trust government more than the US

it turned out to be expensive and never was fully implemented

this last year, they finally gave up on it, but hey, why should that stop us, right?
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So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips.



On a side note I never ever again want to hear the phrase "we need to have this discussion as a country" ever again! It has been used to death these past 4-5 days.

So what do you think?



Edit* I was supposed to have a poll in this thread.......but I failed! lol
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


The proposals have been ready and waiting for a long time. They whip them out every excuse they get. You can expect something along the lines of the Clinton gun bans (capacity, method of fire) but two things stand in the way of any new significant gun ban becoming law.

1. Time. It will be about a month before congress even can get around to debating anything and that is time that will allow emotional knee jerk reactions to both cool off and get gun owner's to call their reps opposing it.

2. The House is more pro-gun now than it was when the Clinton gun ban or the Brady bill was passed and in both cases the next congressional election saw a bloodletting of Democrats they have never forgotten. It is more of a third rail in politics than Social Security.

I should probably give up trying to predict what the criminal, NWO, Washington DC, forked-tongued, double snake head congress will or won’t do, but my guess is near nothing because the House won’t allow it. Remember, we went through the same thing with Columbine, and Aurora, and the Giffords pre-planned fiasco. The only thing that happened after those events was that states expanded carry laws to make it easier for people to defend themselves without worrying that they would be treated like the criminals that attacked them.

The end result may be that Obama directs the BATFE try to re-word regulations to rule by fiat. A dictator is gonna do what a dictator is gonna do.
 Quoting: Resister


I hope the house kills any gun ban legislation, but I have seen some Republicans sounding like liberals this last weekend.
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You guys rolling over already?






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Just being realistic.

We don't want gun control (well most of us) but we can see the road signs.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*




Throwing the second amendment overboard now then?



Looks like you've ditched the first amendment too with the cops in connecticut threatening to arrest those who don't discuss the official versin of events regarding the school shooting.



You call it 'being realistic'
I call it 'rolling over'





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Probably a buyback. The Government will pay good money for your guns.
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Thread: City Offers Citizens Free Flu Shots And Gift Card In Return for Their Guns
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Give us your only means of protection, and we'll give you a shot that will cause you to die slowly. Hell of a deal!

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The DC gun registration was the testing ground for the new gun laws. I guarantee this will be the new national law:

[link to mpdc.dc.gov]


This legislation is already in place and ready to be implemented.
Once again they just needed the catalyst.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1319233


btw, what does this mean? What secret emergency amendments are they talking about???


ii. A copy or duplicate of any rifle described above, or any other rifle
developed and manufactured after the effective date of the Firearms Registration Emergency Amendment Act of 2008, enacted
on an emergency basis on January 6, 2009 (Act # 17-651),
regardless of caliber, if such rifle is capable of firing a projectile that
attains a muzzle energy of 12,000 foot-pounds or greater in any
combination of bullet, propellant, case, or primer
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Probably a buyback. The Government will pay good money for your guns.
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 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


Give us your only means of protection, and we'll give you a shot that will cause you to die slowly. Hell of a deal!
 Quoting: Chip


Yeah, how much fluoride do you need to drink to think that's a good deal?
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