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GUN CONTROL,. WHAT WILL THE NEW PROPOSED LAWS BE?

 
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The DC gun registration was the testing ground for the new gun laws. I guarantee this will be the new national law:

[link to mpdc.dc.gov]


This legislation is already in place and ready to be implemented.
Once again they just needed the catalyst.
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btw, what does this mean? What secret emergency amendments are they talking about???


ii. A copy or duplicate of any rifle described above, or any other rifle
developed and manufactured after the effective date of the Firearms Registration Emergency Amendment Act of 2008, enacted
on an emergency basis on January 6, 2009 (Act # 17-651),
regardless of caliber, if such rifle is capable of firing a projectile that
attains a muzzle energy of 12,000 foot-pounds or greater in any
combination of bullet, propellant, case, or primer
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Probably a buyback. The Government will pay good money for your guns.
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Thread: City Offers Citizens Free Flu Shots And Gift Card In Return for Their Guns
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


Give us your only means of protection, and we'll give you a shot that will cause you to die slowly. Hell of a deal!
 Quoting: Chip


Yeah, how much fluoride do you need to drink to think that's a good deal?
"You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." ~C.S. Lewis

"And I know that when I leave savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard. We are not the wolves at the gate, we are the ones who face them.
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You guys rolling over already?






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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29624185


Just being realistic.

We don't want gun control (well most of us) but we can see the road signs.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*




Throwing the second amendment overboard now then?



Looks like you've ditched the first amendment too with the cops in connecticut threatening to arrest those who don't discuss the official versin of events regarding the school shooting.



You call it 'being realistic'
I call it 'rolling over'





.Toodlepips
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29624185


Call it what you wanna call it. We have had assault rifle bans before in this country. It's nothing new.

Can you guys even legally own forks over there in the uk?
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So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips.


 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


yes. all firearms will be banned (you morons have abused
your privilege)

Except:

1 six-shooter revolver allowed for each person, for personal protection.

end of story
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I sure hope you are being sarcastic, because if not, you sound like an idiot
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"after the Port Arthur massacre event in Tasmania (Australia) the subsequent gun laws that were rushed through did not include the Jewish community who still maintained full access to a wide range of weaponry "for the defence of the Jewish community who are under constant threat of attack". The ordinary Australian citizens were subjected to some of the most ludicrous gun laws which simply impacted on the honest citizens while the criminal elements continued to have their usual access to firearms with no impediment. So what will happen in the USA if "gun laws" are enacted? Will the Jewish community be exempted from the draconian laws? Of course they will - while the general masses will be forced to hand in their weapons thus preventing the potential for an armed revolution when they are sick of the corrupt political system that controls them. These "massacres" set the stage for the removal of firearms from the general population."
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Probably a buyback. The Government will pay good money for your guns.
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Thread: City Offers Citizens Free Flu Shots And Gift Card In Return for Their Guns
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


Give us your only means of protection, and we'll give you a shot that will cause you to die slowly. Hell of a deal!
 Quoting: Chip


Yeah, how much fluoride do you need to drink to think that's a good deal?
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


Going to the Worcester, Massachusetts government website you start to understand why their citizens have begun to voluntarily giving up their second amendment responsibilities. Conditioning and programming are definitely the mind controlling factors at work here with the headline stating ‘kids and guns do not mix,’ then they say you have a higher chance of shooting your loved one than an intruder.

The fact that this program has collected over 2,200 guns in the past 10 years demonstrates that people will do as they are told and will take the advice of the highest form of authority over their own reasoning and common sense.

Keep your children safe with firearm training and self-defense classes and keep them healthy by avoiding these yearly toxic injections known as vaccinations.

[link to www.activistpost.com]
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"And I know that when I leave savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard. We are not the wolves at the gate, we are the ones who face them.
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Someone please help me out, i have been wondering what will happen if this gun control law gets approved. Are they gonna go house by house to collect the guns? If not; there will still be millions of guns in the US, thus the "problem" won't go away. What's your opinion on this one guys?
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Someone please help me out, i have been wondering what will happen if this gun control law gets approved. Are they gonna go house by house to collect the guns? If not; there will still be millions of guns in the US, thus the "problem" won't go away. What's your opinion on this one guys?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14505884


It's not to the point where they will collect the already purchased firearms...Yet.
"You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." ~C.S. Lewis

"And I know that when I leave savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard. We are not the wolves at the gate, we are the ones who face them.
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So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips.


 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


yes. all firearms will be banned (you morons have abused
your privilege)

Except:

1 six-shooter revolver allowed for each person, for personal protection.

end of story
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4365896


I sure hope you are being sarcastic, because if not, you sound like an idiot
 Quoting: IssueX


no. i'm quite serious, asshat.
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Someone please help me out, i have been wondering what will happen if this gun control law gets approved. Are they gonna go house by house to collect the guns? If not; there will still be millions of guns in the US, thus the "problem" won't go away. What's your opinion on this one guys?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14505884


It's not to the point where they will collect the already purchased firearms...Yet.
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


I understand, but would it be a possibility?
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At the minimum:
1. Magazine capicity of more than 10 rounds prohibited.
2. Cannot purchase more than one gun a month.
3. 15 day waiting period for gun purchases.
4. Ban on all semi auto pistol and rifles.
5. Limit on the amount of ammunition purchased.
6. Holographic and laser sights limited to military and law enforcement only.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30230129


The only thing on that list with a prayer of coming close to passing into law anytime soon is the magazine limitation.

The bolded though indicates that you don't know the first thing about guns. All pistols are semi-auto. Semi-auto simply means that when you pull the trigger it goes bang... one time without having to seperately cock the gun for another shot. One trigger pull = one bang. The 101 year old 1911 Colt 45 and almost all revolvers going back to the 1800's do this as well. They aren't going to be banning 100+ year old tech any time soon.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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Tomato plants need bringing in?
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


cheaperthandirt.com was a huge online firearm retailer.

Now it says:

Cheaper Than Dirt! doesn't sell guns.

[link to www.cheaperthandirt.com]
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant



Ho-ly-shit! I use the site often, had to see it for my own eyes.

One of the largest online arms dealers just drops their gravy train? So it begins...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17952489


link worked for me just now, fwiw

but check out that link re the DC registration policy.

Apparently they are using CALIFORNIA as the basis for their laws, wtf?

from that pdf: [link to mpdc.dc.gov]


6. An unsafe handgun prohibited under DC Official
Code § 7-2505.04. This provides that beginning
January 1, 2009, a pistol that is not on the California
Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale, (also known
as the California Roster of Handguns Determined
Not to be Unsafe), may not be manufactured, sold,
given, loaned, exposed for sale, transferred, or imported into the District of Columbia, unless it was
owned and registered before this date.


Handguns on the roster have passed firing, safety,
and drop tests and are certified for sale in California by the California Department of Justice.

The Council of the District of Columbia has determined that prohibiting handguns that are not on
the California roster will help to protect residents
from unsafe handguns that are more prone to accidental discharge, lack safety devices to prevent
unintended discharge, misfire, and are prone to
firing when dropped.

For more information on the
California certification program and requirements,
please consult with the Bureau of Firearms in the
Office of the Attorney General, State of California
Department of Justice ( [link to ag.ca.gov]
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I think it will happen in steps.

First an assault weapon and high capacity magazine ban PDQ like in the coming weeks along with more stringent background checks. This time wont be like the last, IE this time no AR15 rifles will be sold period. If you want an AR you better go buy one now.

Followed by...

Gun registration nationwide.

Ban on reloading supplies.

Ammo registration.

Finally Total retroactive ban and confiscation on all auto, semiauto and pump rifles, shotguns and pistols. Possible partial ban on revolvers.
IE turn in your guns or go to jail.

Amnesty offer for the holdouts, before we lock you up.

Ending with something similar to what Canada has now.
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So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips.


 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


yes. all firearms will be banned (you morons have abused
your privilege)

Except:

1 six-shooter revolver allowed for each person, for personal protection.

end of story
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4365896


I sure hope you are being sarcastic, because if not, you sound like an idiot
 Quoting: IssueX


no. i'm quite serious, asshat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4365896


I don't even own a gun, but I am totally in favor of the 2nd amendment, and if you don't know why, then you need to go back and study some history

I'm also glad you no doubt do not live in my state, because you sound like one of the "I know better than anyone who disagrees with me" assholes

millions of people use guns for self defense safely, and a dozen nutters equals "everyone" because you already have your mind made up

fuck you and your fuzzy absolute thinking
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I think it will happen in steps.

First an assault weapon and high capacity magazine ban PDQ like in the coming weeks along with more stringent background checks. This time wont be like the last, IE this time no AR15 rifles will be sold period. If you want an AR you better go buy one now.

Followed by...

Gun registration nationwide.

Ban on reloading supplies.

Ammo registration.

Finally Total retroactive ban and confiscation on all auto, semiauto and pump rifles, shotguns and pistols. Possible partial ban on revolvers.
IE turn in your guns or go to jail.

Amnesty offer for the holdouts, before we lock you up.

Ending with something similar to what Canada has now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3186463


If that is the case...well...guess we go back to natural resources and make out own black powder smith our own weapons and cast our own lead.

They can't stop it. Guns are a permanent fixture.
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Someone please help me out, i have been wondering what will happen if this gun control law gets approved. Are they gonna go house by house to collect the guns? If not; there will still be millions of guns in the US, thus the "problem" won't go away. What's your opinion on this one guys?
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government will control ammunition
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I hope the house kills any gun ban legislation, but I have seen some Republicans sounding like liberals this last weekend.
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The Republican party has near completely lost their way and any sense of core principles. I am not trusting that they will stand up for what is right anymore. I trust that they don't want to be fired faster than a .338 Lapua.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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yes. all firearms will be banned (you morons have abused
your privilege)

Except:

1 six-shooter revolver allowed for each person, for personal protection.

end of story
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4365896


I sure hope you are being sarcastic, because if not, you sound like an idiot
 Quoting: IssueX


no. i'm quite serious, asshat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4365896


I don't even own a gun, but I am totally in favor of the 2nd amendment, and if you don't know why, then you need to go back and study some history

I'm also glad you no doubt do not live in my state, because you sound like one of the "I know better than anyone who disagrees with me" assholes

millions of people use guns for self defense safely, and a dozen nutters equals "everyone" because you already have your mind made up

fuck you and your fuzzy absolute thinking
 Quoting: IssueX


drama
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Someone please help me out, i have been wondering what will happen if this gun control law gets approved. Are they gonna go house by house to collect the guns? If not; there will still be millions of guns in the US, thus the "problem" won't go away. What's your opinion on this one guys?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14505884


government will control ammunition
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1379065


But that will only fade away the "problem" on the long term since most people already have a nice stash of ammunition, i'm also reading a lot of stories on message boards of people who are buying shitloads of ammunition after the school shooting of last week. These new comments on gun control by Obama will also certainly cause a huge rise in the demand of ammunition.
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I hope the house kills any gun ban legislation, but I have seen some Republicans sounding like liberals this last weekend.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


The Republican party has near completely lost their way and any sense of core principles. I am not trusting that they will stand up for what is right anymore. I trust that they don't want to be fired faster than a .338 Lapua.
 Quoting: Resister


Yea good point. They may not care about us, but they want to keep their positions.
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So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips.


 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


yes. all firearms will be banned (you morons have abused
your privilege)

Except:

1 six-shooter revolver allowed for each person, for personal protection.

end of story
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4365896


If all firearms are banned how are you gonna hand out the six shooters?
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So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips.


 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


yes. all firearms will be banned (you morons have abused
your privilege)

Except:

1 six-shooter revolver allowed for each person, for personal protection.

end of story
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4365896


If all firearms are banned how are you gonna hand out the six shooters?
 Quoting: sonic doom


chuckle
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So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips.



On a side note I never ever again want to hear the phrase "we need to have this discussion as a country" ever again! It has been used to death these past 4-5 days.

So what do you think?



Edit* I was supposed to have a poll in this thread.......but I failed! lol
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


One of the guntards are gonna jump on you for using the term 'assault rifle', dont ya know they're just semi-autos that look like assault rifles! wahhh
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You stupid fags from Aust are just sad that you were stupid enough to have given away your guns to the commies and want us to do it too so you can try and feel less stupid. Fuck off inbread.
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WHITE HOUSE: OBAMA ‘ACTIVELY SUPPORTIVE’ OF ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN


The White House says President Barack Obama is “actively supportive” of efforts on Capitol Hill to reinstate an assault weapons ban, marking a change from the more open-ended support of “change” in days and years past.

President Obama has long backed stricter gun laws, but failed to make significant headway during his first term.

Now, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) plans to introduce legislation to reinstate the ban early next year, and while White House spokesman Jay Carney was noncommittal yesterday, he’s now put the White House on record.

“He is actively supportive of, for example, Sen. [Dianne] Feinstein’s stated intent to revive a piece of legislation that would reinstate the assault weapons ban,” Carney remarked Tuesday during his daily briefing.

[link to www.theblaze.com]
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what would the re-instated ban ban?
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At the minimum:
1. Magazine capicity of more than 10 rounds prohibited.
2. Cannot purchase more than one gun a month.
3. 15 day waiting period for gun purchases.
4. Ban on all semi auto pistol and rifles.
5. Limit on the amount of ammunition purchased.
6. Holographic and laser sights limited to military and law enforcement only.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30230129


Ouch! I hope you're wrong.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


I think he's close but whatever they do, nothing will be fixed.

yoda
 Quoting: MultiStrada


No, nothing will be fixed. I think we will go back to the assault rifle ban and smaller capacity mags......I live in California, that's how it's been here for a while now.
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California

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what would the re-instated ban ban?
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All firearms. I guess you can have a six shooter. We will see. grinning
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This is what i think will happen.

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I can see how that could be a concern, but I think it would be too difficult for the state to run a psych evaluation of everyone who goes to purchase a firearm.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


Unless they could tie it into Obamacare somehow? Or, they could have a list of "Approved" therapists or even social workers in each area and require gun license applicants to get approval from one of them. They could set it up like the bureau of motor vehicles does for license testing; they'd love to have yet another bit of bureaucracy.
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So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips.


 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


yes. all firearms will be banned (you morons have abused
your privilege)

Except:

1 six-shooter revolver allowed for each person, for personal protection.

end of story
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4365896


I sure hope you are being sarcastic, because if not, you sound like an idiot
 Quoting: IssueX


no. i'm quite serious, asshat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4365896


Did you realize that a child is more likely to drown in a pool than to be killed by a firearm in the USA?

Banning swimming pools anyone?
Adversity is inevitable, misery is optional.

Do or do not. There is no try.

"The enemy will never attack where you are strongest...He will attack where you are weakest. If you do not know your weakest point, be certain, your enemy will." Sun Tzu
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yes. all firearms will be banned (you morons have abused
your privilege)

Except:

1 six-shooter revolver allowed for each person, for personal protection.

end of story
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4365896


I sure hope you are being sarcastic, because if not, you sound like an idiot
 Quoting: IssueX


no. i'm quite serious, asshat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4365896


Did you realize that a child is more likely to drown in a pool than to be killed by a firearm in the USA?

Banning swimming pools anyone?
 Quoting: Maguyver


Doesn't fit their agenda.