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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29624185 12/18/2012 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just being realistic. We don't want gun control (well most of us) but we can see the road signs. Throwing the second amendment overboard now then? Looks like you've ditched the first amendment too with the cops in connecticut threatening to arrest those who don't discuss the official versin of events regarding the school shooting. You call it 'being realistic' I call it 'rolling over' .Toodlepips |
Chip![]() Forum Moderator User ID: 22480895 12/18/2012 02:26 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Probably a buyback. The Government will pay good money for your guns. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29898248 Thread: City Offers Citizens Free Flu Shots And Gift Card In Return for Their Guns Give us your only means of protection, and we'll give you a shot that will cause you to die slowly. Hell of a deal! Last Edited by Chip on 12/18/2012 02:27 PM Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. ~Arthur C. Clarke Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. ~Mark Twain |
| IssueX User ID: 14348632 12/18/2012 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The DC gun registration was the testing ground for the new gun laws. I guarantee this will be the new national law: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1319233 [link to mpdc.dc.gov] This legislation is already in place and ready to be implemented. Once again they just needed the catalyst. btw, what does this mean? What secret emergency amendments are they talking about??? ii. A copy or duplicate of any rifle described above, or any other rifle developed and manufactured after the effective date of the Firearms Registration Emergency Amendment Act of 2008, enacted on an emergency basis on January 6, 2009 (Act # 17-651), regardless of caliber, if such rifle is capable of firing a projectile that attains a muzzle energy of 12,000 foot-pounds or greater in any combination of bullet, propellant, case, or primer |
| Sleeping Giant Haste The Day User ID: 543618 12/18/2012 02:27 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Probably a buyback. The Government will pay good money for your guns. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29898248 Thread: City Offers Citizens Free Flu Shots And Gift Card In Return for Their Guns Give us your only means of protection, and we'll give you a shot that will cause you to die slowly. Hell of a deal! Yeah, how much fluoride do you need to drink to think that's a good deal? "You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." ~C.S. Lewis "And Lord, haste the day when my faith shall be sight, The clouds be rolled back as a scroll; The trump shall resound, and the Lord shall descend, Even so, it is well with my soul." Thread: 37 Survival Downloads and Handbooks – Pioneering, SHTF, Engineering, Urban Gardening, Defense, and More |
| *HEISENBERG* (OP) I bleed orange and black User ID: 30143760 12/18/2012 02:27 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just being realistic. We don't want gun control (well most of us) but we can see the road signs. Throwing the second amendment overboard now then? Looks like you've ditched the first amendment too with the cops in connecticut threatening to arrest those who don't discuss the official versin of events regarding the school shooting. You call it 'being realistic' I call it 'rolling over' .Toodlepips Call it what you wanna call it. We have had assault rifle bans before in this country. It's nothing new. Can you guys even legally own forks over there in the uk? Formerly:Michael Bolton Negan, Rick Grimes, Heisenberg, Charlie Scene, “The Fourth Amendment is clear; we should be secure in our persons, houses, papers, and effects, and all warrants must have probable cause. Today the government operates largely in secret, while seeking to know everything about our private lives – without probable cause and without a warrant. The government does not need to know more about what we are doing. We need to know more about what the government is doing.”-Ron Paul |
| IssueX User ID: 14348632 12/18/2012 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips. Quoting: *HEISENBERG* yes. all firearms will be banned (you morons have abused your privilege) Except: 1 six-shooter revolver allowed for each person, for personal protection. end of story I sure hope you are being sarcastic, because if not, you sound like an idiot |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30191360 12/18/2012 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "after the Port Arthur massacre event in Tasmania (Australia) the subsequent gun laws that were rushed through did not include the Jewish community who still maintained full access to a wide range of weaponry "for the defence of the Jewish community who are under constant threat of attack". The ordinary Australian citizens were subjected to some of the most ludicrous gun laws which simply impacted on the honest citizens while the criminal elements continued to have their usual access to firearms with no impediment. So what will happen in the USA if "gun laws" are enacted? Will the Jewish community be exempted from the draconian laws? Of course they will - while the general masses will be forced to hand in their weapons thus preventing the potential for an armed revolution when they are sick of the corrupt political system that controls them. These "massacres" set the stage for the removal of firearms from the general population." |
| Sleeping Giant Haste The Day User ID: 543618 12/18/2012 02:29 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Probably a buyback. The Government will pay good money for your guns. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29898248 Thread: City Offers Citizens Free Flu Shots And Gift Card In Return for Their Guns Give us your only means of protection, and we'll give you a shot that will cause you to die slowly. Hell of a deal! Yeah, how much fluoride do you need to drink to think that's a good deal? Going to the Worcester, Massachusetts government website you start to understand why their citizens have begun to voluntarily giving up their second amendment responsibilities. Conditioning and programming are definitely the mind controlling factors at work here with the headline stating ‘kids and guns do not mix,’ then they say you have a higher chance of shooting your loved one than an intruder. The fact that this program has collected over 2,200 guns in the past 10 years demonstrates that people will do as they are told and will take the advice of the highest form of authority over their own reasoning and common sense. Keep your children safe with firearm training and self-defense classes and keep them healthy by avoiding these yearly toxic injections known as vaccinations. [link to www.activistpost.com] "You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." ~C.S. Lewis "And Lord, haste the day when my faith shall be sight, The clouds be rolled back as a scroll; The trump shall resound, and the Lord shall descend, Even so, it is well with my soul." Thread: 37 Survival Downloads and Handbooks – Pioneering, SHTF, Engineering, Urban Gardening, Defense, and More |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14505884 12/18/2012 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someone please help me out, i have been wondering what will happen if this gun control law gets approved. Are they gonna go house by house to collect the guns? If not; there will still be millions of guns in the US, thus the "problem" won't go away. What's your opinion on this one guys? |
| Sleeping Giant Haste The Day User ID: 543618 12/18/2012 02:30 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someone please help me out, i have been wondering what will happen if this gun control law gets approved. Are they gonna go house by house to collect the guns? If not; there will still be millions of guns in the US, thus the "problem" won't go away. What's your opinion on this one guys? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14505884 It's not to the point where they will collect the already purchased firearms...Yet. "You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." ~C.S. Lewis "And Lord, haste the day when my faith shall be sight, The clouds be rolled back as a scroll; The trump shall resound, and the Lord shall descend, Even so, it is well with my soul." Thread: 37 Survival Downloads and Handbooks – Pioneering, SHTF, Engineering, Urban Gardening, Defense, and More |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4365896 12/18/2012 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips. Quoting: *HEISENBERG* yes. all firearms will be banned (you morons have abused your privilege) Except: 1 six-shooter revolver allowed for each person, for personal protection. end of story I sure hope you are being sarcastic, because if not, you sound like an idiot no. i'm quite serious, asshat. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14505884 12/18/2012 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someone please help me out, i have been wondering what will happen if this gun control law gets approved. Are they gonna go house by house to collect the guns? If not; there will still be millions of guns in the US, thus the "problem" won't go away. What's your opinion on this one guys? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14505884 It's not to the point where they will collect the already purchased firearms...Yet. I understand, but would it be a possibility? |
| Resister In God we trust User ID: 669410 12/18/2012 02:34 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At the minimum: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30230129 1. Magazine capicity of more than 10 rounds prohibited. 2. Cannot purchase more than one gun a month. 3. 15 day waiting period for gun purchases. 4. Ban on all semi auto pistol and rifles. 5. Limit on the amount of ammunition purchased. 6. Holographic and laser sights limited to military and law enforcement only. The only thing on that list with a prayer of coming close to passing into law anytime soon is the magazine limitation. The bolded though indicates that you don't know the first thing about guns. All pistols are semi-auto. Semi-auto simply means that when you pull the trigger it goes bang... one time without having to seperately cock the gun for another shot. One trigger pull = one bang. The 101 year old 1911 Colt 45 and almost all revolvers going back to the 1800's do this as well. They aren't going to be banning 100+ year old tech any time soon. "God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787 [link to line-in-the-sand.blogspot.com] |
| IssueX User ID: 14348632 12/18/2012 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | cheaperthandirt.com was a huge online firearm retailer. Now it says: Cheaper Than Dirt! doesn't sell guns. [link to www.cheaperthandirt.com] Ho-ly-shit! I use the site often, had to see it for my own eyes. One of the largest online arms dealers just drops their gravy train? So it begins... link worked for me just now, fwiw but check out that link re the DC registration policy. Apparently they are using CALIFORNIA as the basis for their laws, wtf? from that pdf: [link to mpdc.dc.gov] 6. An unsafe handgun prohibited under DC Official Code § 7-2505.04. This provides that beginning January 1, 2009, a pistol that is not on the California Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale, (also known as the California Roster of Handguns Determined Not to be Unsafe), may not be manufactured, sold, given, loaned, exposed for sale, transferred, or imported into the District of Columbia, unless it was owned and registered before this date. Handguns on the roster have passed firing, safety, and drop tests and are certified for sale in California by the California Department of Justice. The Council of the District of Columbia has determined that prohibiting handguns that are not on the California roster will help to protect residents from unsafe handguns that are more prone to accidental discharge, lack safety devices to prevent unintended discharge, misfire, and are prone to firing when dropped. For more information on the California certification program and requirements, please consult with the Bureau of Firearms in the Office of the Attorney General, State of California Department of Justice ( [link to ag.ca.gov] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 3186463 12/18/2012 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it will happen in steps. First an assault weapon and high capacity magazine ban PDQ like in the coming weeks along with more stringent background checks. This time wont be like the last, IE this time no AR15 rifles will be sold period. If you want an AR you better go buy one now. Followed by... Gun registration nationwide. Ban on reloading supplies. Ammo registration. Finally Total retroactive ban and confiscation on all auto, semiauto and pump rifles, shotguns and pistols. Possible partial ban on revolvers. IE turn in your guns or go to jail. Amnesty offer for the holdouts, before we lock you up. Ending with something similar to what Canada has now. |
| IssueX User ID: 14348632 12/18/2012 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips. Quoting: *HEISENBERG* yes. all firearms will be banned (you morons have abused your privilege) Except: 1 six-shooter revolver allowed for each person, for personal protection. end of story I sure hope you are being sarcastic, because if not, you sound like an idiot no. i'm quite serious, asshat. I don't even own a gun, but I am totally in favor of the 2nd amendment, and if you don't know why, then you need to go back and study some history I'm also glad you no doubt do not live in my state, because you sound like one of the "I know better than anyone who disagrees with me" assholes millions of people use guns for self defense safely, and a dozen nutters equals "everyone" because you already have your mind made up fuck you and your fuzzy absolute thinking |
Chip![]() Forum Moderator User ID: 22480895 12/18/2012 02:39 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it will happen in steps. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3186463 First an assault weapon and high capacity magazine ban PDQ like in the coming weeks along with more stringent background checks. This time wont be like the last, IE this time no AR15 rifles will be sold period. If you want an AR you better go buy one now. Followed by... Gun registration nationwide. Ban on reloading supplies. Ammo registration. Finally Total retroactive ban and confiscation on all auto, semiauto and pump rifles, shotguns and pistols. Possible partial ban on revolvers. IE turn in your guns or go to jail. Amnesty offer for the holdouts, before we lock you up. Ending with something similar to what Canada has now. If that is the case...well...guess we go back to natural resources and make out own black powder smith our own weapons and cast our own lead. They can't stop it. Guns are a permanent fixture. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. ~Arthur C. Clarke Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. ~Mark Twain |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1379065 12/18/2012 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someone please help me out, i have been wondering what will happen if this gun control law gets approved. Are they gonna go house by house to collect the guns? If not; there will still be millions of guns in the US, thus the "problem" won't go away. What's your opinion on this one guys? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14505884 government will control ammunition |
| Resister In God we trust User ID: 669410 12/18/2012 02:39 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hope the house kills any gun ban legislation, but I have seen some Republicans sounding like liberals this last weekend. Quoting: *HEISENBERG* The Republican party has near completely lost their way and any sense of core principles. I am not trusting that they will stand up for what is right anymore. I trust that they don't want to be fired faster than a .338 Lapua. "God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787 [link to line-in-the-sand.blogspot.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4365896 12/18/2012 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4365896 yes. all firearms will be banned (you morons have abused your privilege) Except: 1 six-shooter revolver allowed for each person, for personal protection. end of story I sure hope you are being sarcastic, because if not, you sound like an idiot no. i'm quite serious, asshat. I don't even own a gun, but I am totally in favor of the 2nd amendment, and if you don't know why, then you need to go back and study some history I'm also glad you no doubt do not live in my state, because you sound like one of the "I know better than anyone who disagrees with me" assholes millions of people use guns for self defense safely, and a dozen nutters equals "everyone" because you already have your mind made up fuck you and your fuzzy absolute thinking ![]() |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14505884 12/18/2012 02:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someone please help me out, i have been wondering what will happen if this gun control law gets approved. Are they gonna go house by house to collect the guns? If not; there will still be millions of guns in the US, thus the "problem" won't go away. What's your opinion on this one guys? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14505884 government will control ammunition But that will only fade away the "problem" on the long term since most people already have a nice stash of ammunition, i'm also reading a lot of stories on message boards of people who are buying shitloads of ammunition after the school shooting of last week. These new comments on gun control by Obama will also certainly cause a huge rise in the demand of ammunition. |
| *HEISENBERG* (OP) I bleed orange and black User ID: 30143760 12/18/2012 02:43 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hope the house kills any gun ban legislation, but I have seen some Republicans sounding like liberals this last weekend. Quoting: *HEISENBERG* The Republican party has near completely lost their way and any sense of core principles. I am not trusting that they will stand up for what is right anymore. I trust that they don't want to be fired faster than a .338 Lapua. Yea good point. They may not care about us, but they want to keep their positions. Formerly:Michael Bolton Negan, Rick Grimes, Heisenberg, Charlie Scene, “The Fourth Amendment is clear; we should be secure in our persons, houses, papers, and effects, and all warrants must have probable cause. Today the government operates largely in secret, while seeking to know everything about our private lives – without probable cause and without a warrant. The government does not need to know more about what we are doing. We need to know more about what the government is doing.”-Ron Paul |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23830285 12/18/2012 02:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips. Quoting: *HEISENBERG* yes. all firearms will be banned (you morons have abused your privilege) Except: 1 six-shooter revolver allowed for each person, for personal protection. end of story If all firearms are banned how are you gonna hand out the six shooters? |
| *HEISENBERG* (OP) I bleed orange and black User ID: 30143760 12/18/2012 02:57 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips. Quoting: *HEISENBERG* yes. all firearms will be banned (you morons have abused your privilege) Except: 1 six-shooter revolver allowed for each person, for personal protection. end of story If all firearms are banned how are you gonna hand out the six shooters? Formerly:Michael Bolton Negan, Rick Grimes, Heisenberg, Charlie Scene, “The Fourth Amendment is clear; we should be secure in our persons, houses, papers, and effects, and all warrants must have probable cause. Today the government operates largely in secret, while seeking to know everything about our private lives – without probable cause and without a warrant. The government does not need to know more about what we are doing. We need to know more about what the government is doing.”-Ron Paul |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29138849 12/18/2012 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips. Quoting: *HEISENBERG* On a side note I never ever again want to hear the phrase "we need to have this discussion as a country" ever again! It has been used to death these past 4-5 days. So what do you think? Edit* I was supposed to have a poll in this thread.......but I failed! lol One of the guntards are gonna jump on you for using the term 'assault rifle', dont ya know they're just semi-autos that look like assault rifles! wahhh You stupid fags from Aust are just sad that you were stupid enough to have given away your guns to the commies and want us to do it too so you can try and feel less stupid. Fuck off inbread. |
| Sleeping Giant Haste The Day User ID: 543618 12/18/2012 03:10 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WHITE HOUSE: OBAMA ‘ACTIVELY SUPPORTIVE’ OF ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN The White House says President Barack Obama is “actively supportive” of efforts on Capitol Hill to reinstate an assault weapons ban, marking a change from the more open-ended support of “change” in days and years past. President Obama has long backed stricter gun laws, but failed to make significant headway during his first term. Now, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) plans to introduce legislation to reinstate the ban early next year, and while White House spokesman Jay Carney was noncommittal yesterday, he’s now put the White House on record. “He is actively supportive of, for example, Sen. [Dianne] Feinstein’s stated intent to revive a piece of legislation that would reinstate the assault weapons ban,” Carney remarked Tuesday during his daily briefing. [link to www.theblaze.com] "You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." ~C.S. Lewis "And Lord, haste the day when my faith shall be sight, The clouds be rolled back as a scroll; The trump shall resound, and the Lord shall descend, Even so, it is well with my soul." Thread: 37 Survival Downloads and Handbooks – Pioneering, SHTF, Engineering, Urban Gardening, Defense, and More |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25674130 12/18/2012 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At the minimum: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30230129 1. Magazine capicity of more than 10 rounds prohibited. 2. Cannot purchase more than one gun a month. 3. 15 day waiting period for gun purchases. 4. Ban on all semi auto pistol and rifles. 5. Limit on the amount of ammunition purchased. 6. Holographic and laser sights limited to military and law enforcement only. Ouch! I hope you're wrong. I think he's close but whatever they do, nothing will be fixed. ![]() No, nothing will be fixed. I think we will go back to the assault rifle ban and smaller capacity mags......I live in California, that's how it's been here for a while now. California Merry Christmas Charlie and an awesome new year. Multistrada on his iPad for ol times sake. |
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| Ralph--a house dog User ID: 25802009 12/18/2012 03:25 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can see how that could be a concern, but I think it would be too difficult for the state to run a psych evaluation of everyone who goes to purchase a firearm. Unless they could tie it into Obamacare somehow? Or, they could have a list of "Approved" therapists or even social workers in each area and require gun license applicants to get approval from one of them. They could set it up like the bureau of motor vehicles does for license testing; they'd love to have yet another bit of bureaucracy. "Who decides?" ---Robert A. Heinlein [link to www.westcoasttruth.com] "Do Not Go Gentle into that Good Night.....Rage, rage against the dying of the light" ----Dylan Thomas |